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Title: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am Quote:
[url=http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Nov-09/277016-syrian-kurds-give-women-equal-rights-snubbing-jihadists.ashx]Source[/url] Kurds who are majority Muslims, appear to be very forward and modernist in their thinking. However, we are assured by Baronvert that the Kurds are not Muslim and by Moses, Yadda, Soren, Freediver, et al, that there is no modernity movement within Islam. So obviously this media report must be wrong.... ::) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 26th, 2014 at 7:29am Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
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Harun Yahya says the PKK and Kurds are commies, the PKK dropped communism and went for secular democracy. The leader and founder of the PKK Abdullah Ocalan is an atheist,of course Brian tries to pass him off as a muslim. Saddam's genocidal campaign against the Kurds was called Al Anfal, this name came from chapter 8 in the Quran |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 28th, 2014 at 10:51am Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
The Yazidi are all Kurds, the Yazidi are persecuted by muslims who accuse them of devil worshipping,Brian would like to pass off the Yazidi,christians and atheists who brought human rights to Kurdistan as muslims. The Kurds are beig attacked by Brian's muslim mates from the Islamic state. Why are the Kurds refusing entry into Kurdistan for Sunni Iraqis Brian? Quote:
The comments part of your link has people calling the kurds murtads. What is a murtad brian is that a non muslim? Are you still claiming the leader and founder of the PKK Abdullah Ocalan is a muslim Brian, you should change his wiki page from atheist to muslim. 8-) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Dec 28th, 2014 at 2:01pm Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 10:51am:
I love it when you're rattled, Baron. You launch immediately into ad hominem attacks on me. *SIGH* so foolish and so pointless. So, its not me who's attempting anything, Baron. I and HB have merely quoted from numerous online sources what is the estimated proportions of religious followers within the Kurdish population. You appear unable to acknowledge that you've gotten it wrong. You appear to have tied yourself personally to your foolish and obviously ignorant belief that the majority of Kurds are not religious at all, let alone not-Muslims. Your personal attacks are so childish. ::) You base your claims on circumstantial evidence, Baron. When you find an authoritative one, which states the proportions of religions within the Kurdish population, spread across Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran, get back to us. Otherwise all you're doing is repeating rumours and hearsay, nothing more. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:38am
Turkey is bombing the Kurds,Erdogan says there is no difference between the Islamic state and the PKK.
The Kurds are being raped and enslaved by muslims in the Islamic state,they are the most effective group fighting the Islamic state, they have been making good ground against the Islamic state so Turkey is attacking them with F16's Is the evidence Turkey has been helping the Islamic state undeniable? businessinsider.com.au/links-between-turkey-and-isis-are-now-undeniable-2015-7 Turkey does not allow the Turkish kurds to speak or teach their Kurdish language,Turkey does not allow Kurds to give their children Kurdish names. The Kurds have equal rights for women which is unheard of in the middle east,Erdgan said women will never be equal to men which is something muslims claim. bbc.com/news/world-europe-30183711 Turkey is attacking Kurds in Syria and Iraq,Turkey has been funding groups opposed to Assad,Turkey still occupies Cyprus. Gandalf what are your thoughts on Turkey attacking the Kurds who are the only effective group fighting the Islamic state? |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by |dev|null on Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:47am Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:38am:
Except the PKK are or rather were, almost exclusively Communist and IS is exclusionarily Sunni Islamist in their outlooks. The reality is that the Turks have decided that the peace between the PKK and them was hurting them, just as was the build up of the Kurds in general, so they have decided to strike at them. Quote:
Wrong. The Turks have relaxed their rulings on both the Kurdish language and names for about the last 10 years Baron. Quote:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey#Cultural_expression] Quote:
Except women have equal rights in Turkey Baron. Erdgan is an Islamist. He is seeking to reverse that. Quote:
North Cyprus... Looks to me like you need to catch up with the real world Baron. ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by gandalf on Jul 31st, 2015 at 11:59am Brian Ross wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 2:01pm:
I don't. He just gets even more annoying. The number of idiotic rhetorical questions increases proportionally to Baron's rate of 'rattledness' |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by issuevoter on Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:57pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
You are completely missing the point. These decrees are un-Islamic. There is no way you can get around it. Islam is not a region or a race it is the belief in the Koran and that Mohamed was the messenger of God. Don’t try going all relativist on us. Islam is evil and that is why these decrees have been made. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:06pm
Islam can be evil, if interpreted in a particular way, Issuevoter. Just as Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, you name it. It can also be quite good. It all depends on what the believers believe and how they act, Issuevoter. That you characterise an entire religion of 1.6 billion believers as "evil" shows that you're thinking in stereotypical ideas, rather than reality. Indonesia, some 300 million Muslims (approximately) is very different to the Muslims of Saudi Arabia. The Indonesians tolerate and accept other religious beliefs within their society and allow them to practice their religions freely, unlike Saudi Arabia at the other extreme which won't allow churches, worship or any other temple within their borders. I really think you need to look out at the reality of the world, rather than read the stereotypes that the MSM present to you or even what the web claims about Islamic beliefs and practices. In reality, Islam is diverse in it's beliefs and practices. ::)
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Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:11pm issuevoter wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:57pm:
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where does it say in the Koran woman have equal rights ? did moh exhibit that while shagging his many sex slaves or handing them out like candy ? |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Karnal on Aug 1st, 2015 at 1:15am
You don’t post on the Islam board, Sprint.
This town’s not big enough for you and the death cult. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by issuevoter on Aug 1st, 2015 at 12:01pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:06pm:
That's Relativism. It is useless. The point here is that these decrees are a rejection of Islam, not a modification of it. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Aug 1st, 2015 at 2:19pm issuevoter wrote on Aug 1st, 2015 at 12:01pm:
Really? Have you asked the issuers of the decrees what they believe they are doing? Have they all left Islam en masse or are they just actually believe they're working within Islam? Get back to us when you have the answers please! ::) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Soren on Aug 1st, 2015 at 10:44pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
These are developments DESPITE Islam, Brain. Everyone knows that even you, no matter how you pretend otherwise. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by freediver on Aug 1st, 2015 at 11:00pm
Brian is doing his "Islam is an unfathomable mystery" trick again. How are we to figure out what Islam really is when there are 1.6 billion different versions of it, and no book to guide us.....
I am surprised Brian can bring himself to say anything about Islam at all without first getting the approval of all 1.6 billion of them. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by issuevoter on Aug 1st, 2015 at 11:16pm
The decrees are brave moves, but if they are intending to give Islam a friendlier face they will need to go on down to the big Muslim woop-de-do in Mecca and sell the idea. I don't think they will risk it.
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Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:06am Soren wrote on Aug 1st, 2015 at 10:44pm:
Your Islamophobia is showing again, Soren. Please stop flashing it for everyone to see! ::) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Soren on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:20am Brian Ross wrote on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:06am:
I don't have to like any ideology, not even Islam. As a freeborn man I can express dislike and disdain for ANY ideology without little milk monitors like you trying to police it, Brain. You are NOT the conscience of anyone but yourself. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:25am Soren wrote on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:20am:
We KNOW your opinion about Muslims and Islam, Soren. We don't have to keep rereading it every minute of every day... ::) Quote:
Oh, this all about attention seeking on your part, is it, Soren? No wonder you keep posting the same old tripe, all day, every day, every minute of every day! Give it a rest! ::) ::) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Soren on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:40am Brian Ross wrote on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:25am:
So it IS OK to reject Islam every minute of the day, after all?? Thanks - although it's not in your gift to concede or not. Islam is a terrible, backward ideology. Anyone can say that. In the West. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:24pm Soren wrote on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:40am:
Have I ever denied it, Soren? What I'm bored with is your relentless bombarding us with your messages every minute of the day! Surely there must be something else you and I could talk about? I'm willing to accept your views as your views. I'm sure everybody else is as well. How about you accept my views as well and we could get on talking about something else! ::) Personally, I'm bored with the two dimensional character you present here based on hate and more hate. Surely there is something you actually enjoy doing rather than posting just hatred all the time. Are you sure this hatred isn't damaging your relationship with your family and your (real) friends? Or do you keep it hidden from them? Let's recognise your Islamophobia and move on! ::) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by freediver on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:43pm Quote:
;D |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Fork Off Gandalf on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 7:45pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 2:01pm:
Proof Please! Brian Ross wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 2:01pm:
Proof with link please. Brian Ross wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 2:01pm:
When you find one will you let us know. Brian Ross wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 2:01pm:
That's all you do Brian, not others. Why don't you watch the TV (SBS) at this very moment to learn how the forceful conversions took place in this area or go here for a much shorter version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_culture Either way you will still be an ignorant person that only ever claims ad hominem when found to be sorely lacking. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 8:41pm
Adam, from your own reference:
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[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_culture#Religion]Source[/url] So, Adam? ::) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Soren on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 9:18am Brian Ross wrote on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 8:41pm:
There's not any information about Irreligion and Atheist people in any Muslim society. They wouldn't dare admitting to it. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Brian Ross on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 8:21pm Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2015 at 9:18am:
Except for Turkey, the Central Asian Republics, Kurdistan, Tunisia, Malaysia, Indonesia, to name but a few, Soren. I've mentioned how you talk in stereotypes. I wonder why you bother. I really do. ::) Quote:
Except in Turkey, the Central Asian Republics, Kurdistan, Tunisia, Malaysia, Indonesia, to name but a few, Soren... ::) |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by |dev|null on Aug 4th, 2015 at 10:27am Soren wrote on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:20am:
So, why are you acting like the conscience of all the Muslims Soren? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Whywhyhuh on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:10pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
One simple test. Does it go against the Quran. If so its not islam modernizing. Its a nice story though. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Karnal on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:49pm LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:10pm:
Thank Gud you're back, Matty. The Muslims and their apologists have been causing no end of problems. Terrorist sympathizing, taqiyya, evading FD's questions and changing the subject, you name it, it's appalling. Any chance you could work your magic on them? |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Whywhyhuh on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:53pm Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:49pm:
Hi Matty still bent out of shape are we ? |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Karnal on Aug 4th, 2015 at 5:14pm LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:53pm:
Good heavens, no. We're just glad to have you back, that's all. |
Title: Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS Post by Whywhyhuh on Aug 4th, 2015 at 5:18pm
We being all the people inside your head troll.
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