One of Life's big mysteries.

A woman who wants another woman who is trying unsuccessfully to present herself as a man.

The question begs: So why not get the genuine article ~ a real man, not a poor imitation?

Come on laugh and Karnal ~ this is your bag. What are we to think?

link

Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex. 

... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 11:53am:

Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.

Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged men too.

For completely different reasons though.

I am not sure what your problem is herb.. they look extremely happy.... and the pics are beautiful... her children look happy as well.. isnt that really all we need from life??...making someone else happy...being content...

I dont have a problem with that at all..good luck Martina

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:13pm:

I am not sure what your problem is herb.. they look extremely happy.... and the pics are beautiful... her children look happy as well.. isnt that really all we need from life??...making someone else happy...being content... I dont have a problem with that at all..good luck Martina

Well said, cods.

Very well said.

Two people in love, doing what makes them happy, and not  hurting anyone in the process.

I think that "One of Life's big mysteries" is why anyone would be opposed to other people being happy.

I can certainly see what Martina is attracted too ... I'm jealous

... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 11:53am:

Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.

Sure - all that carpet munching has nothing to do with it.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Sure - all that carpet munching has nothing to do with it.

It's mostly linoleum these days.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Sure - all that carpet munching has nothing to do with it. It's mostly linoleum these days.

a lot of them use rugs that are easy to remove

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Merkinlight.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Sure - all that carpet munching has nothing to do with it. It's mostly linoleum these days. a lot of them use rugs that are easy to remove http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Merkinlight.jpg

I've never actually seen a merkin before.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Sure - all that carpet munching has nothing to do with it. It's mostly linoleum these days. a lot of them use rugs that are easy to remove http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Merkinlight.jpg I've never actually seen a merkin before.

to be honest, neither have I ...

I wonder if they make good presents? ::) ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:25pm:

... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Sure - all that carpet munching has nothing to do with it.

Very little carpet munching goes on. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death

Heh.  Good luck to them.

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:17pm:

Heh.  Good luck to them.

That's not the point.

Aunt Herbie doesn't like it, and he needs to let the world know.




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Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:17pm:

Heh.  Good luck to them.

I only asked "Why?" the obvious contradictions.

And let's not be too 'liberal-progressive' here.

Just ask any innocent school-girl what it's like to become the target of unwanted attention by teenaged bull-dykes in the playground.

No so funny. Very stressful. Lots of tears at home. Scared. Embarrassed. Dreading the next day at school.

Okay?

It's all very well to pose as tolerant and high-minded 'educated' individuals on this matter, but while preening ourselves for being O-so sophisticated and tolerant - just remember there's a very nasty side to this scenario.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:17pm: Heh.  Good luck to them. I only asked "Why?" the obvious contradictions.

Why does it matter?

They're happy.

They aren't hurting anyone.

Life is full of contradictions.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:29pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:27pm: Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:17pm: Heh.  Good luck to them. I only asked "Why?" the obvious contradictions. Why does it matter? They're happy. They aren't hurting anyone. Life is full of contradictions.

Read my last post, bucko.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:29pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:27pm: Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:17pm: Heh.  Good luck to them. I only asked "Why?" the obvious contradictions. Why does it matter? They're happy. They aren't hurting anyone. Life is full of contradictions. Read my last post, bucko.

It's hardly worth my time, princess.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:17pm: Heh.  Good luck to them. I only asked "Why?" the obvious contradictions. And let's not be too 'liberal-progressive' here. Just ask any innocent school-girl what it's like to become the target of unwanted attention by teenaged bull-dykes in the playground. No so funny. Very stressful. Lots of tears at home. Scared. Embarrassed. Dreading the next day at school. Okay? It's all very well to pose as tolerant and high-minded 'educated' individuals on this matter, but while preening ourselves for being O-so sophisticated and tolerant - just remember there's a very nasty side to this scenario.

What is the very nasty side to this scenario?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:17pm: Heh.  Good luck to them. I only asked "Why?" the obvious contradictions. And let's not be too 'liberal-progressive' here. Just ask any innocent school-girl what it's like to become the target of unwanted attention by teenaged bull-dykes in the playground. No so funny. Very stressful. Lots of tears at home. Scared. Embarrassed. Dreading the next day at school. Okay? It's all very well to pose as tolerant and high-minded 'educated' individuals on this matter, but while preening ourselves for being O-so sophisticated and tolerant - just remember there's a very nasty side to this scenario.

Just ask any innocent school-girl what it's like to become the target of unwanted attention by teenage boys in the playground.

No so funny. Very stressful. Lots of tears at home. Scared. Embarrassed. Dreading the next day at school.

Your posts get more ridiculous by the day, Aunt Herbs


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I really don't think that post is worthy of reporting do you?

BTW I went to an all girls school and never once got propositioned by a female   ;D

Boys, on the other hand  ...    :o

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:41pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:27pm: [quote author=Black_Orchid link=1420246485/12#12 date=1420255051]Heh.  Good luck to them. I only asked "Why?" the obvious contradictions. And let's not be too 'liberal-progressive' here. Just ask any innocent school-girl what it's like to become the target of unwanted attention by teenaged bull-dykes in the playground. No so funny. Very stressful. Lots of tears at home. Scared. Embarrassed. Dreading the next day at school. Okay? It's all very well to pose as tolerant and high-minded 'educated' individuals on this matter, but while preening ourselves for being O-so sophisticated and tolerant - just remember there's a very nasty side to this scenario.

Just ask any innocent school-girl what it's like to become the target of unwanted attention by teenage boys in the playground.

No so funny. Very stressful. Lots of tears at home. Scared. Embarrassed. Dreading the next day at school.

Your posts get more ridiculous by the day, Aunt Herbs

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:43pm:

I really don't think that post is worthy of reporting do you?

No, not at all.

It's an in joke with the princess and me.

Every time that I remind the forum that he's nothing more than a troll - his whole reason for being here is to stir up trouble - he quotes my posts and then puts "REPORTED" on the end.

He stalks me.

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:43pm:

I really don't think that post is worthy of reporting do you?

Your acting as Greg's pro bono Defence Counsel has moved me to cancel the penalty I had planned for him.


Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:43pm:

BTW I went to an all girls school and never once got propositioned by a female

I hope you're not complaining.

Not complaining   ;D

Apologies, I didn't realise there was a dynamic happening here   :)

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:54pm:

Apologies, I didn't realise there was a dynamic happening here   :)

No harm done.



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Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:53pm:

Not complaining   ;D

Thank God for that!

You sound too nice and genteel to be seen riding pillion on some bull-dyke's bike down Oxford Street during Sydney's annual Running of the Buttocks festival.

:)

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:57pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:53pm: Not complaining   ;D Thank God for that! You sound too nice and genteel to be seen riding pillion on some bull-dyke's bike down Oxford Street during Sydney's annual Running of the Buttocks festival. :)

Can't say that's on my bucket list.    ;D

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:02pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:57pm: Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 1:53pm: Not complaining   ;D Thank God for that! You sound too nice and genteel to be seen riding pillion on some bull-dyke's bike down Oxford Street during Sydney's annual Running of the Buttocks festival. :) Can't say that's on my bucket list.    ;D

I once sat in the back of some bull-dyke's Holden ute during Perth's annual Running of the Buttocks Festival.

It wasn't on my bucket list, but it certainly was an ... interesting evening.

Define ... interesting   ;D

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:22pm:

Define ... interesting   ;D

I saw things in the back of that ute that I'd never seen before    :o

Perhaps we should cut the commentary there and head for a commercial break   8-)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:10pm:

It wasn't on my bucket list, but it certainly was an ... interesting evening.

I knew a middle-aged female couple once. They were very nice people.

There.

I've said it.  :)

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:32pm:

Perhaps we should cut the commentary there and head for a commercial break   8-)

;D ;D ;D

What shall we advertise? Strap-ons?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:43pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 2:32pm: Perhaps we should cut the commentary there and head for a commercial break   8-) ;D ;D ;D What shall we advertise? Strap-ons?

The couple who invited me onto the back of their ute didn't need any strap-ons.

What was that '70s Bruce Lee movie called, Fist of Fury?

:o

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 2:10pm: It wasn't on my bucket list, but it certainly was an ... interesting evening. I knew a middle-aged female couple once. They were very nice people. There. I've said it.  :)

I have known both middle aged female couples and middle aged male couples and I much preferred the middle aged male couples.

There.

I've said it too   ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Sure - all that carpet munching has nothing to do with it. It's mostly linoleum these days.

No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.  ;)

So we can walk around without wearing a shirt-- its that simple for me

Don't think I would want to walk around without a shirt anymore   ;D

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:25pm: ... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Sure - all that carpet munching has nothing to do with it. It's mostly linoleum these days. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.  ;)

Especially behind the green door.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUzr0AOwIhk

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:49pm:

I have known both middle aged female couples and middle aged male couples and I much preferred the middle aged male couples. There. I've said it too   ;D

Yeah?

Well I've known menage de trois lesbian trios in my time.

Beat THAT!  :P

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 2:49pm: I have known both middle aged female couples and middle aged male couples and I much preferred the middle aged male couples. There. I've said it too   ;D Yeah? Well I've known menage de trois lesbian trios in my time. Beat THAT!  :P

Pubescent wet dreams don't count, Walter.

Aussie wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 5:25pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 5:03pm: Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 2:49pm: I have known both middle aged female couples and middle aged male couples and I much preferred the middle aged male couples. There. I've said it too   ;D Yeah? Well I've known menage de trois lesbian trios in my time. Beat THAT!  :P Pubescent wet dreams don't count, Walter.

I will pay that one!

;D ;D ;D

I find myself with an increasing number of Lesbian friends. At least the ones who will admit to it. I continually advise them that they just have not met the right man yet. This is convenient because there really is no retort. And it sorts out those who are comfortable with themselves. (not all)

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 2:49pm: I have known both middle aged female couples and middle aged male couples and I much preferred the middle aged male couples. There. I've said it too   ;D Yeah? Well I've known menage de trois lesbian trios in my time. Beat THAT!  :P

You win   ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 5:47pm:

I will pay that one! ;D ;D ;D

Don't be laughing too hard.  The intermission performance going on up in General was a bit of a cracker    ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 11:56am:

... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged men too. For completely different reasons though.

If you think your tiny penis can compete with  womans forearm or fist you have no idea.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 6:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:56am: ... wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 11:53am: Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged women because they get the companionship without their partner expecting sex.  Lesbianism is attractive to middle aged men too. For completely different reasons though. If you think your tiny penis can compete with  womans forearm or fist you have no idea.

You prefer a large penis, do you?

(Not that there's anything ... )

On the question:-

>  confusion over what constitutes sex in the social sense

> mental illness, genetic or otherwise

> need to get rocks off in some way

> personal issue such as incapacity to deal with the opposite sex

> ease of access to similar type without unwanted effects such as pregnancy (see above)

It's a disease of our society when women feel the need to outdo men in male pursuits. The only way that can eventuate is by becoming more male than nature intended.

Women's tennis is boring as poo. Martina was as blokey and as boring as they come. Yet she made loads of money ...at our expense. She has contributed sweet FA to the world. Hopefully she will eventually realize this... if she ever gives her insatiable loins a rest.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:20pm:

cods wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:13pm: I am not sure what your problem is herb.. they look extremely happy.... and the pics are beautiful... her children look happy as well.. isnt that really all we need from life??...making someone else happy...being content... I dont have a problem with that at all..good luck Martina Well said, cods. Very well said. Two people in love, doing what makes them happy, and not  hurting anyone in the process. I think that "One of Life's big mysteries" is why anyone would be opposed to other people being happy.

Yes lot of people agree with Cods on this one.

Quote:

Why want a woman trying to be a man?

I very much doubt that this is the case however even it were there are not too many men who could compete with Martina.

yet another rich grub buying themselves a younger pretty woman...

Quote:

A famous multimillionaire athlete falls in love. He invites his new girlfriend to live and travel with him; he registers hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of property and assets in her name; he lavishes her with gifts, assures her of his undying love and even goes so far as to marry her in a private ceremony. Eight years later, the athlete has cast his wife out of his life, denied her every financial claim and left her with little more than the clothes on her back. Here’s a question. Would any court in the land deny this wife restitution? And in the court of public opinion, would anyone take the side of a husband so stingy and unfeeling? Let us now switch the husband’s gender. He is now a she: a lesbian tennis star willing to use the legal system to extract herself from another unhappy relationship. This makes the case more complicated, to be sure, but it does nothing to alter the injustice. And, if anything, the outrage should be greater. In the past week, Martina Navratilova has been sued by a former lover, Toni Layton, who claims she was unceremoniously dumped and is now owed millions of dollars in damages and spousal support. Layton claims she and Navratilova had agreed “to evenly share all funds and assets earned and obtained by either while together.” These assets apparently include four multimillion-dollar homes.

what a rotten grub of a thing...

I always felt sorry for all of those "real" women who had to play against that man who pretended to be a woman ...

Amadd wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 11:18pm:

It's a disease of our society when women feel the need to outdo men in male pursuits. The only way that can eventuate is by becoming more male than nature intended. Women's tennis is boring as poo. Martina was as blokey and as boring as they come. Yet she made loads of money ...at our expense. She has contributed sweet FA to the world. Hopefully she will eventually realize this... if she ever gives her insatiable loins a rest.

I..er...ohboy!...er...um...

Amadd wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 11:18pm:

Women's tennis is boring as poo.

au contraire

Women's tennis is far more exciting than men's tennis.

For starters there aren't as many aces served, and the women are just much easier on the eye.


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/R20GQLNyviQ/0.jpg


But hey, if you'd rather watch men belt their balls around, that's up to you.

(Not that there's anything wrong with that)

Greggery isn't much for sports - they're a far too masculine pursuit for him. 

Unfortunately most of her money was made by displaying her asset's. Not so much her prowess on the court.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:31am:

yet another rich grub buying themselves a younger pretty woman...

I think that she is almost as rich ?

Agnes wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

Unfortunately most of her money was made by displaying her asset's. Not so much her prowess on the court.

What?  Navratilova is hardly eye candy.  She was a talented player, as far as shielas go.  Or if you're talking about the image of kournikova, then yes, you're absolutely right. 

Tennis is interesting, in that the shielas get paid equal amount to men for less work - it's one of very, very few real examples of "the wage gap."

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 11:16am:

Greggery isn't much for sports - they're a far too masculine pursuit for him.

Not sports that involve men in shorts, that's for sure.  A little too ghey for me.

But hey, if you like to spend your weekends watching sweaty men run around hugging each other, that's your call.

(Not that there's anything wrong with that)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

... wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 11:16am: Greggery isn't much for sports - they're a far too masculine pursuit for him.  Not sports that involve men in shorts, that's for sure.  A little too ghey for me. But hey, if you like to spend your weekends watching sweaty men run around hugging each other, that's your call. (Not that there's anything wrong with that)

Well if you're having sexual thoughts while watching sports, I'd remind you there are better ways to get your jollies.  Even a target catalogue would be more arousing. 

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 11:45am: ... wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 11:16am: Greggery isn't much for sports - they're a far too masculine pursuit for him.  Not sports that involve men in shorts, that's for sure.  A little too ghey for me. But hey, if you like to spend your weekends watching sweaty men run around hugging each other, that's your call. (Not that there's anything wrong with that) Well if you're having sexual thoughts while watching sports, I'd remind you there are better ways to get your jollies.  Even a target catalogue would be more arousing.

I have sexual thoughts just breathing.

I'm a man.

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

Agnes wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 11:21am: Unfortunately most of her money was made by displaying her asset's. Not so much her prowess on the court. What?  Navratilova is hardly eye candy.  She was a talented player, as far as shielas go.  Or if you're talking about the image of kournikova, then yes, you're absolutely right.  Tennis is interesting, in that the shielas get paid equal amount to men for less work - it's one of very, very few real examples of "the wage gap."

Right on, Bro.... the REAL wage gap....

Past lover of mine is a deep feminist involved type who ran a website citing figures on incomes and stuff.  I did the calculations and first time around came up with a bonus offered to women of 12% based on HER figures....

Website vanished and since then I've published several calculations on INCOMES (wage rates are the rates at which you are paid and nowhere are women left short).

The ONLY difference in INCOMES overall is derived from the simple fact that women work an average of 32 hours a week and men 41 (2011 Census) = women work 78% of the hours that men do and as a result get 78% of the INCOME that men do....

Like the dumbass tennis thing - of course - they want the same pay for doing 78% of the hours.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

Like the dumbass tennis thing - of course - they want the same pay for doing 78% of the hours.

The number of sets doesn't determine how many hours they are on court (there's no limit).

I've seen sets last less than 20 minutes, and I've seen others last almost 2 hours.

The longest women's match went for 6 and a half hours, and it was only two sets.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 2:36pm: Like the dumbass tennis thing - of course - they want the same pay for doing 78% of the hours. The number of sets doesn't determine how many hours they are on court (there's no limit). I've seen sets last less than 20 minutes, and I've seen others last almost 2 hours. The longest women's match went for 6 and a half hours, and it was only two sets.

Not much over half as long as the longest mens match.  Equal pay for half the work - yep sounds about right for most women, but the tennis players don't have to hide it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 2:36pm: Like the dumbass tennis thing - of course - they want the same pay for doing 78% of the hours. The number of sets doesn't determine how many hours they are on court (there's no limit). I've seen sets last less than 20 minutes, and I've seen others last almost 2 hours. The longest women's match went for 6 and a half hours, and it was only two sets.

The number of sets is a pretty good indicator of how long a match will go on average.

The longest men's match? ..over 11 hours. That 6.5 hr. women's match is the only one in the top 50 of lengthy tennis matches.

I'd have to agree that the some of the women are nice eye candy, but that's supposedly not what they're there for.

I think you'll find that pic is Sharipova not Kournikova. I'd know that tush anywhere.

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 2:41pm: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 2:36pm: Like the dumbass tennis thing - of course - they want the same pay for doing 78% of the hours. The number of sets doesn't determine how many hours they are on court (there's no limit). I've seen sets last less than 20 minutes, and I've seen others last almost 2 hours. The longest women's match went for 6 and a half hours, and it was only two sets. Not much over half as long as the longest mens match.  Equal pay for half the work - yep sounds about right for most women, but the tennis players don't have to hide it.

My point is: "The number of sets doesn't determine how many hours they are on court (there's no limit)."

Nobody says that women must stop playing after a certain amount of hours.

I go to the Hopman Cup every year, and I've seen the women's matches go longer than the men's matches many times.

Conversely, I also remember seeing one women's match go for about 35 minutes.

Women's tennis is far more entertaining than men's, so I don't mind them getting a break (pardon the pun).

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 3:54pm:

Women's tennis is far more entertaining than men's, so I don't mind them getting a break (pardon the pun).

Ticket sales suggest otherwise. 

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 3:54pm: Women's tennis is far more entertaining than men's, so I don't mind them getting a break (pardon the pun). Ticket sales suggest otherwise.

Link?

Apart from finals, you purchase a ticket to see the day's play.

At the Hopman Cup, for example, your ticket gets you a men's match, a women's match, and a double's match.

There's no provision for buying a ticket just for the men's match.

So, link?

Quote:

I've seen the women's matches go longer than the men's matches many times

How many is "many"? 

One thing I noticed from sports betting was how lopsided womens tennis matches were. 

Why, just today I chanced upon an article which illustrates it well:




Quote:

WORLD no. 1 Serena Williams called for a coffee to perk her up during a sluggish start to her Hopman Cup campaign in Perth. And the trusted pick-me-up worked a treat for the Grand Slam queen. She took the match in three sets, 0-6 6-3 6-0 over Italian Flavia Pennetta.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/serena-williams-bizarre-on-court-request/story-fndkzym4-1227174955063

89 minutes, including 20 minute warm up and coffee break.  Sounds like a tough battle between 2 players ranked in the top 12.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

... wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 4:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 3:54pm: Women's tennis is far more entertaining than men's, so I don't mind them getting a break (pardon the pun). Ticket sales suggest otherwise.  Link? Apart from finals, you purchase a ticket to see the day's play. At the Hopman Cup, for example, your ticket gets you a men's match, a women's match, and a double's match. There's no provision for buying a ticket just for the men's match. So, link?

Lol - get free tickets to the hopman cup do you?

"But among the many happy gifts destiny bestowed in her cradle, it seems there was one from a malign fairy. It became manifest after 1997, the year in which she formed a relationship with Edouard Stern, a prominent member of an eminent ...ish banking family.


In 1999 she bore Stern’s love-child, Maximilien, though he was reluctant to acknowledge any role in the boy’s paternity. Five and a half months later, the baby boy died in hospital, having been in the care of a Bulgarian nanny hired by Stern. The nanny later disappeared, and the police found signs of the baby having been shaken, but it was concluded there was not enough evidence for any prosecution and Maximilien had died from natural causes.

In time Julia’s suspicion nevertheless strengthened that her child had been murdered."


http://quartetbooks.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/the-fairytale-life-of-julia-lemigova/

"Daughter of a soviet general"

:D

total weirdos  ;D

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 4:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 4:43pm: ... wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 4:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 3:54pm: Women's tennis is far more entertaining than men's, so I don't mind them getting a break (pardon the pun). Ticket sales suggest otherwise.  Link? Apart from finals, you purchase a ticket to see the day's play. At the Hopman Cup, for example, your ticket gets you a men's match, a women's match, and a double's match. There's no provision for buying a ticket just for the men's match. So, link? Lol - get free tickets to the hopman cup do you?

I wish.

I buy season tickets for the Hopman Cup and the Australian Open most years.

If you think that you can buy separate tickets for men's and women's matches, you're sadly mistaken.

They're sold by the session:

http://hopmancup.com/tickets/prices

lol you dumb front bottom.

Did you know mens and womens finals are held on different sessions?

Of course if you're just there for the sake of being somewhere, (like 90% of front bottoms at any event in Perth) as opposed to a genuine interest in the event, the heats are just as good.

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

Did you know mens and womens finals are held on different sessions?

Indeed.

Which is exactly why I said, back in post number 70: "Apart from finals, you purchase a ticket to see the day's play."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420246485/70#70

I've been going to tennis longer than you've been alive, Honky.

(I trained at Arthur Marshall's Academy, and you wouldn't even know who he was)

ah, so you did. 

The question then is, who cares about heats?

A: The usual crowd of Perth buggerwits desperately trying to find something different and/or mildly exclusive to do, regardless of what it is.

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:25pm:

ah, so you did.  The question then is, who cares about heats? A: The usual crowd of Perth buggerwits desperately trying to find something different and/or mildly exclusive to do.

I prefer the heats.

I often don't attend the finals (if it's particularly hot, for example).

Some finals I've been to have been simply spectacular, but I've seen some matches just as good during the early sessions.

And yes, I agree with you about Perth people.

Don't get me started about the morons sitting next to me in the front row of Bruce Springsteen who didn't look at the stage once.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

I've been going to tennis longer than you've been alive, Honky.

And yet, you still think a nerfed version is "more entertaining." Hmm.

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 7:21pm: I've been going to tennis longer than you've been alive, Honky. And yet, you still think a nerfed version is "more entertaining." Hmm.

And so it is.

About to watch Murray (he's as boring as hell).

I'm off!

I get offered tickets to which ever tournament they play in Sydney each year.  International?

I haven't taken up the offer yet though. 

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

I get offered tickets to which ever tournament they play in Sydney each year.  International? I haven't taken up the offer yet though.

Actually, I've never been to a match in Sydney   :(

Perth, Melbourne, Brisbane and Adelaide all the time.  Never seen one in my home town though.

Hmmm.

I couldn't imagine how bad it would be to sit at a tennis match listening to two women grunt like wild pigs for a couple of hours...   :D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 7:37pm: I get offered tickets to which ever tournament they play in Sydney each year.  International? I haven't taken up the offer yet though.  Actually, I've never been to a match in Sydney   :( Perth, Melbourne, Brisbane and Adelaide all the time.  Never seen one in my home town though. Hmmm.

You get around lol.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:42pm:

I couldn't imagine how bad it would be to sit at a tennis match listening to two women grunt like wild pigs for a couple of hours...   :D

Not to be sexist, I would make sure the tickets I got were for the men's   8-)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:42pm:

I couldn't imagine how bad it would be to sit at a tennis match listening to two women grunt like wild pigs for a couple of hours...   :D

I kinda turns me on.

Then again, I suppose I'm a bit of a pervert.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:20pm:

cods wrote on Jan 3rd, 2015 at 12:13pm: I am not sure what your problem is herb.. they look extremely happy.... and the pics are beautiful... her children look happy as well.. isnt that really all we need from life??...making someone else happy...being content... I dont have a problem with that at all..good luck Martina Well said, cods. Very well said. Two people in love, doing what makes them happy, and not  hurting anyone in the process. I think that "One of Life's big mysteries" is why anyone would be opposed to other people being happy.

What a Tool!

Two people in love?..what about the children?
How dare you think about nothing more than the two original humans?

There is a man(?)(28) living around by us who was brought up by two lesbians who is so obviously missing a male dominating figure in his life...he chats up women with as much enthusiasm as the rest of us, but the poor fella has no friggin idea how a male should act, he's never been taught. You can see him on given night shooting his lines off but alas he will remain a bachelor forever, simply because he has no idea of how to behave..So much for your stupid social experiments at the expense of potential human beings...you're no better than the Nazi's...You Tool!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:35pm:

... wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 7:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 7:21pm: I've been going to tennis longer than you've been alive, Honky. And yet, you still think a nerfed version is "more entertaining." Hmm. And so it is. About to watch Murray (he's as boring as hell). I'm off!

Ahhh I get it now.  It's the same reason I find the "joke" auditions of talent shows infintely more amusing than those of the serious contestants.   ;)

i guess ratings are ratings no matter what drives them.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 7:45pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 7:42pm: I couldn't imagine how bad it would be to sit at a tennis match listening to two women grunt like wild pigs for a couple of hours...   :D I kinda turns me on. Then again, I suppose I'm a bit of a pervert.

How about a female opinion of what is more palatable? Men who watch women's tennis in the hope of getting a boner or men who avoid watching because the standard is nowhere near that of the men's?
Of course a feminist answer would be neither, because she hates all men equally.

Imagine the questions asked by a man when flicking over to women's tennis.

: Is she good looking?
: Does she have a nice body?
:Is she Australian?

If no, then change channel.

QED.

Women's tennis to me lacks the excitement of the men' game - I prefer men's tennis- women's tennis bores me. Same sex marriages baffle me but each to their own I guess.

Amadd wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 10:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 7:45pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 5th, 2015 at 7:42pm: I couldn't imagine how bad it would be to sit at a tennis match listening to two women grunt like wild pigs for a couple of hours...   :D I kinda turns me on. Then again, I suppose I'm a bit of a pervert. How about a female opinion of what is more palatable? Men who watch women's tennis in the hope of getting a boner or men who avoid watching because the standard is nowhere near that of the men's? Of course a feminist answer would be neither, because she hates all men equally.

All feminist's don't hate men Amadd- I don't consider myself to be one ( although I think there is a bit in all women tbh-  kind of organic ) that is like saying that all mra's hate women, and that's just not true.

Who cares why men watch tennis anyway- most scantily clad female player's, not so physically adept on the court know why they are included in the line up every year - Anna made more money from her sex appeal than she ever did from tennis.

Amadd wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

Imagine the questions asked by a man when flicking over to women's tennis. : Is she good looking? : Does she have a nice body? :Is she Australian? If no, then change channel. QED.

;)

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 8:15am:

Amadd wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 10:54pm: Imagine the questions asked by a man when flicking over to women's tennis. : Is she good looking? : Does she have a nice body? :Is she Australian? If no, then change channel. QED. ;)

Agreed.  I couldn't care less what country they're from.