The usual crowd. Hot breath, Bwian, greggorypeccahead. All having a great time calling people "islamophobic", "bigots", "fearful". Accusing them of having "lost to the terrorist", and being "defenders of terrorist". Thread after thread derailed with cut and past sarcastic replies full of  ::) ::) ::) ::) without any substance. Just troll post after troll post.

This is far from normal behaviour. When someone condemns Islamic terrorism, to then accuse that person of being a protector of terrorist because they mention Islam is just sick. No normal person acts this way. It is certainly not to make a point, but just to troll and look for a response so as to then claim the moral enlightened high ground, but in reality being an ignorant shlt stirring jerk.

What kind of mental disorder causes someone to get turned on by provoking people during horrible events? An Islamic terrorist slaughter happens and the first thing they think off is how to get under people's skin with the usual "why do you defend these people? ::) ::) ::)", knowing damn well they are actually condemning them, or "you are worst then the terrorist  ::) ::) ::)" for having the audacity to criticise them. They are twisted beyond comprehension.

a troll, in my books, is someone who starts threads whinging about other posters ....

get over it.

No one has to agree with your views if they don't want to.

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 12:52pm:

The usual crowd. Hot breath, Bwian, greggorypeccahead. All having a great time calling people "islamophobic", "bigots", "fearful". Accusing them of having "lost to the terrorist", and being "defenders of terrorist". Thread after thread derailed with cut and past sarcastic replies full of  ::) ::) ::) ::) without any substance. Just troll post after troll post.

Those that declare others trolls simply because they disagree with them are usually those that dwell in dark caves.   ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D

Why do you assume we don't hold genuine belief in fair play, the rule of law, aren't racist/xenophobic/islamophobic/etc and that the innocent should not be persecuted for their beliefs?   

I'd suggest those that who want to persecute people for their beliefs, their ethnicity, their race and so on are the real trolls, showing their bestial origins whenever possible, letting their hatred of their fellow human beings shine through at every opportunity.   ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D

I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone.

The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction.

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 12:55pm:

a troll, in my books, is someone who starts threads whinging about other posters .... get over it. No one has to agree with your views if they don't want to.

As always john you struggle to understand the situation. Opposing views are fine. Accusing people of protecting terrorist for pointing out the Islamic connection is just sick. But there are a few posters who get a aroused by doing so.

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 12:52pm:

When someone condemns Islamic terrorism, to then accuse that person of being a protector of terrorist because they mention Islam is just sick.

Firstly, there's nothing wrong with condemning terrorism: everyone here condemns it.  The problem is condemning all Muslims for acts of Islamic terrorism.

Secondly, by claiming that Islam made them do it, you're simply making excuses for them.

These murderers are very sick individuals.

They would still be very sick individuals if Islam never existed.

It's a similar situation when people use the term 'alcohol fueled violence': it's just making excuses. "The alcohol made them do it". 

Answer honestly: if Islam never existed, do you think that these cowards in France would have gone through life as well-adjusted, law-abiding citizens?

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 1:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 12:55pm: a troll, in my books, is someone who starts threads whinging about other posters .... get over it. No one has to agree with your views if they don't want to. As always john you struggle to understand the situation. Opposing views are fine. Accusing people of protecting terrorist for pointing out the Islamic connection is just sick. But there are a few posters who get a aroused by doing so.

no, it is you who fails to understand the situation Quantum .... if they see your comments as Islamophobic, bigoted or fearful then they have every right to say so if they desire. You don't have to agree with them.

Not all muslims are terrorists. However, it seems all terrorists are muslims.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

Not all muslims are terrorists.

Correct.


Rocketanski wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

However, it seems all terrorists are muslims.

Yes, it seems that way.  However, it's not true.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

by claiming that Islam made them do it, you're simply making excuses for them.

Wrong again peccahead.

By claiming Islam had nothing to do with it you are making excuses for them ,you are part of the problem not part of the solution.

There will be no redaction of the Quran anytime soon so this behaviour will continue to be motivated by islam and supported by Islamic apologists who claim it has nothing to do with Islam.

The first step to resolving problems is to first admit there is a problem instead of sweeping it under the carpet and pretending the problem doesn't exist.

If Christians behave badly these loser trolls are the first to highlight it yet when muslims do jihad they claim it has nothing to do with Islam and usually switch the topic to Christians.

What does this verse say peccahead,could it be used to justify this latest attack by devout muslims?
quran.com/5/33

http://i.imgur.com/HvhQFl2.jpg

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 2:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:15pm: by claiming that Islam made them do it, you're simply making excuses for them. Wrong again peccahead.

No, I'm 100% correct.

You, and many others on here, are terrorist apologists.

By claiming that Islam made them do it, you're simply making excuses for them.

Now, you might like to make excuses for terrorists, but I certainly don't.

If Islam never existed, do you think that these cowards in France would have gone through life as well-adjusted, law-abiding citizens?  Well?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 2:33pm:

By claiming Islam had nothing to do with it you are ...

I'm sure you'll be providing a link to the post where I claim that "Islam had nothing to do with it".

I mean, you wouldn't want to look like a liar, would you?

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

Not all muslims are terrorists. However, it seems all terrorists are muslims.

Quote:

Not all Muslims are terrorists

The people who continue to behave like they all are terrorists are in fact producing an environment where more and more young Muslims are turning to more extreme options.

The major groups of big mouth red neck opponents of Islam are only making the problem worse and increasing the risk of attacks.

These people are feeding the problem while blaming everyone else for what is happening.

wally1 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

http://i.imgur.com/HvhQFl2.jpg

i'd like the see the source for that if at all possible ... please!

John Smith wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 2:37pm: http://i.imgur.com/HvhQFl2.jpg i'd like the see the source for that if at all possible ... please!

It's legit.

It's straight from FBI statistics.

It's only the US, but it still shows that Muslims aren't the only ones carrying out acts of terrorism:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction.

I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? ::) ::) ::)" just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on.

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm: I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction. I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? " just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on.

If Islam didn't exist, do you think that these cowards in France would have gone through life as well-adjusted, law-abiding citizens?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 2:33pm:

If Christians behave badly these loser trolls are the first to highlight it yet when muslims do jihad they claim it has nothing to do with Islam and usually switch the topic to Christians.

As against the Islamophobes whom when ever Christian atrocities are brought up turn the discussion immediately to Islam and hide their faces from the reality of that religion's believers' actions.

Islamophobes never mention any atrocities other than Muslim ones, they run away and hide from any mention of other religions' efforts, why do they do that Baron?  You wouldn't be called an Islamophobe if you were even handed in your handling of the issue of religion but you aren't, you zero in purely and only on Muslims.    ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm: I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction. I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? ::) ::) ::)" just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on.

If Islam didn't exist, do you think that these cowards in France would have gone through life as well-adjusted, law-abiding citizens?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:28pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 3:09pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm: I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction. I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? " just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on. If Islam didn't exist, do you think that these cowards in France would have gone through life as well-adjusted, law-abiding citizens?

Why not? Are we to pretend that people are immune to influence? That a philosophy that demands that all others must conform or die would not cause people to kill?

It is amazing how unlucky Islam is. All these nuts killing people and that just happen to be Muslims. Their not killing because Islam demands it, it is just a coincidence and they would kill anyway...

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm: I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction. I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? ::) ::) ::)" just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on.

I misunderstood what you were saying.

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 3:28pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 3:09pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm: I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction. I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? " just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on. If Islam didn't exist, do you think that these cowards in France would have gone through life as well-adjusted, law-abiding citizens? Why not? Are we to pretend that people are immune to influence? That a philosophy that demands that all others must conform or die would not cause people to kill?

So, theoretically, I could give you a Quran and ask you to study it from cover to cover for a few months, and there's a chance that you might turn into a murderer?

After all, you're not immune to influence.

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

It is amazing how unlucky Islam is. All these nuts killing people and that just happen to be Muslims. Their not killing because Islam demands it, it is just a coincidence and they would kill anyway...

There is a verse that says Allah is the best deceiver, the muslims must be laughing and saying Allah was right with all these useful idiots saying it has nothing to do with islam you must be islamophobic while these terror attacks continue.

The useful idiots even say how bad the other religions are while defending Islam.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:52pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 3:45pm: It is amazing how unlucky Islam is. All these nuts killing people and that just happen to be Muslims. Their not killing because Islam demands it, it is just a coincidence and they would kill anyway... There is a verse that says Allah is the best deceiver, the muslims must be laughing and saying Allah was right with all these useful idiots saying it has nothing to do with islam you must be islamophobic while these terror attacks continue. The useful idiots even say how bad the other religions are while defending Islam.

Thank god then I am not a useful idiot, all organised religion is bad...

No defense there.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:52pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 3:45pm: It is amazing how unlucky Islam is. All these nuts killing people and that just happen to be Muslims. Their not killing because Islam demands it, it is just a coincidence and they would kill anyway... There is a verse that says Allah is the best deceiver, the muslims must be laughing and saying Allah was right with all these useful idiots saying it has nothing to do with islam you must be islamophobic while these terror attacks continue. The useful idiots even say how bad the other religions are while defending Islam.

Who's defending Islam?

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm: I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction. I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? ::) ::) ::)" just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on.

You're assuming that Islam is monolithic, that the Islam that the Terrorists follow is the same Islam that other Muslims follow, why?

Your thinking is at best simplistic at worst, shockingly naive Quantum.  You seem to think that simply "pointing out the links" has no repercussions and that it is isn't used to persecute innocent Muslims, why?

You're not even handed in your criticism of religion.  In fact you criticise others for "pointing out the links" with Christianity and Terrorism, why?

It appears to me that you've decided it's easier to hate Muslims and their religion rather than understand it and them, why?

Lets see if you'll be honest and answer the questions.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

greggerypeccary wrote:
Quote:

If Islam didn't exist, do you think that these cowards in France would have gone through life as well-adjusted, law-abiding citizens?

Who will ever know?

What exactly is their mental state?

Are they insane?

If they are, is it from 1400 years of islamic inbreeding, why are there so many insane muslims around the world?

There is no doubt that over the years muslim mobs have gone into a blood crazed rampage slaughtering innocent people over such things as beauty pageants, books, cartoons, speech by the pope, apostasy, mockery of muhammad,then we have tens of thousands isis etc., all insane according to you?

171 Australian muslims who either / or are: taking their seven year old son overseas to behead people, join terror groups, actively support terror groups, female muslims going overseas to marry terrorists, a muslim who devoutly declared the shahada while taking innocent Australian hostages then slaughtered two of them, one an innocent woman / mother, all insane according to you?

We have had muslim terror attacks in every country where muslims / islam exists, why?

Are all muslims around the globe who have participated in terror and murder insane?

Do muslims urgently need to address this world wide insurmountable  insanity problem they have?

What "insanity problem"?


Quote:

For this review, we extrapolate from international studies, data that might be applicable to recent immigrants. Ihsan Al-Issa (2000) reviewed the existing international epidemiologic data on several disorders and conditions, concluding that the rate of schizophrenia in Muslims is similar to that of non-Muslims. Higher rates of depression in women versus men - as seen in U.S. populations -are also seen in Muslim populations.  Although anxiety disorders seem to be as prevalent in Muslims as in non-Muslims, high rates of PTSD were found in both Muslim men and women facing post-9/11-related trauma and discrimination (Abu-Ras & Abu-Bader, 2009).

[http://ssrdqst.rfmh.org/cecc/index.php?q=node/25]

Seems Muslims are about as stable as other populations.  On what are you basing your claim Moses?  Your usual prejudice and Islamophobia?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Greggerypeccary disagrees with you.  He's blaming their inhumanity on their mental state.

Just trying to understand the latest apologist's excuse for islamic terror

moses wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Greggerypeccary disagrees with you.  He's blaming their inhumanity on their mental state.

I don't think he's claiming it for all 1.6 billion Muslims...


Quote:

Just trying to understand the latest apologist's excuse for islamic terror

No excuse.  Alternative explanation.  Something that doesn't rely on bigotry or Islamophobia.    ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

moses wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Greggerypeccary disagrees with you.  He's blaming their inhumanity on their mental state. Just trying to understand the latest apologist's excuse for islamic terror

moses,

There is no reasoning with, those who are criminally insane.    [i.e. moslems, and those who are apologists for moslems and the moslem community.]


'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0




In what sense is 'the moslem', a person who is criminally insane ?

e.g.
They should all be deported
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1419865497/2#2








In what sense is 'the moslem', a person who is criminally insane ?

e.g. #2

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.


Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."


EVIDENCE?

By the witness of ISLAM's own record of Mohammed's life, Mohammed was a violent criminal.

Only someone who was criminally insane, would choose to reverence such an individual, imo.


Dictionary;
revere = = respect or admire deeply.






"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

Quantum wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm: I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction. I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? ::) ::) ::)" just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on.

Because invariably they are responding to a lot more than 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting any and every shlt that makes some tenuous link to islam and violence - fake or otherwise - and demanding why is islam and/or muslims allowed to be tolerated.

Pointing out hypocrisy is not trolling.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 3:09pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm: I don't see anyone supporting terrorists - that is where you argument comes undone. The problem you have is when the accusations are aimed at people who clearly are not terrorists, you do not seem to get the distinction. I really don't get what you are talking about. My only issue has been the 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting shlt like "why do you excuse terrorist? ::) ::) ::)" just for pointing out the obvious Islam connections. There is no argument, points of debate, or even a valid opinion with these people. Just trolling BS doing everything to deflect from the actual issue. Spinning every issue to accuse people of excusing the terrorist seems to give them a hard on. Because invariably they are responding to a lot more than 3 amigos who go from thread to thread cutting and pasting any and every shlt that makes some tenuous link to islam and violence - fake or otherwise - and demanding why is islam and/or muslims allowed to be tolerated. Pointing out hypocrisy is not trolling.

BS. Greggery and Bwian are the two biggest trolls on this forum.

Every thread they take devils advocate positions arguing black is white just for the fun of it. Their entire attitude is that everyone is too stupid to understand so they have to educate the poor ignorant bigots. Of course this is not by making any actual points for debate. For Bwian it is "a bigot would say that ::) ::) ::)" ignoring anything said, and for Greg.... Just selectively quote peoples post or even change the words of it so as to make it say something else, so he can follow it up with "I agree", and "white flag accepted". Now he is even accusing people of making excuses for terrorist with his fake shock and disappointment routine when anyone can see that it is complete BS. Try and find a post of gregs that is more than just a few 1 line paragraphs. Same cut and past shlt every time; "don't know why your mind went there", "not that there is anything wrong with that", "white flag accepted", "got a link for that". Good for getting the post count up and dragging a debate on until everyone gives up, useless for anything constructive.

Different opinions are fine, but trolling a forum especially on serious issues like what is happening in France is just sick. There is no excuse for their behaviour.

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

BS. Greggery and Bwian are the two biggest trolls on this forum.

But of course - and spamming the extremism forum with all the variations of "I hate islam" threads you can think of, while the only other contribution consists of 3 word slogans like "ban islam" and "bomb muslims" while completely ignoring and requests to expand doesn't even rate a mention on the trolling scale.

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

... and for Greg.... Just selectively quote peoples post or even change the words of it so as to make it say something else ...

Losing the debate in every thread, so now you've resorted to making up lies.

Interesting tactic.

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

Now he is even accusing people of making excuses for terrorist ...

Yes, why do they continue to do that?

"If it wasn't for Islam, he'd be a normal law-abiding citizen".

Why do they persist with such nonsense?

I have no time for those terrorist apologists.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:17pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:07pm: ... and for Greg.... Just selectively quote peoples post or even change the words of it so as to make it say something else ...  Losing the debate in every thread, so now you've resorted to making up lies. Interesting tactic.

Considering how many times you have changed others posts it is amazing you would even dare deny it. In fact, considering how many things you deny saying or doing something that can be seen by all, and how many times you have been caught out, I'm starting to wonder if you have real world memory or mental issues and don't even realise you are actually do it.

How are those Dr Who reviews going on amazon? Still enjoy working for the government? What do you think of those who go 1km over the limit?

Quantum has a point Pecker. I would have thought changing a person's post would be a ban-worthy offence.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

some crap about rewording someone's quote being a bannable offense

why on earth would that be the case?

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Quantum has a point Pecker. I would have thought changing a person's post would be a ban-worthy offence.

No, he doesn't have a point at all.

I haven't changed the text in anyone's post "so as to make it say something else".

He's telling lies.

Quantum is a lying troll.  Nothing more - nothing less.

greggery couldn't change someone's post even if he wanted to - he doesn't have permissions. The best he could do is what I demonstrated above - and that is nothing like what is being claimed. Quantum is telling porky pies.

moses wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Greggerypeccary disagrees with you.

No he doesn't.


Quote:

He's blaming their inhumanity on their mental state.

No he's not.


Quote:

Just trying to understand the latest apologist's excuse for islamic terror

Nobody is making excuses.


http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/three_strikes.jpg

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:45pm:

greggery couldn't change someone's post even if he wanted to - he doesn't have permissions. The best he could do is what I demonstrated above - and that is nothing like what is being claimed. Quantum is telling porky pies.

How the hell did you become a moderator when you are so blatantly biased? Now you accuse me of lying when I clearly have not. This is what I "claimed";


Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

...selectively quote peoples post or even change the words of it so as to make it say something else so he can follow it up with "I agree", and "white flag accepted".

I didn't say he changed the actual post, but that he changes the quote. He does it all the time. I never claimed he edited the actual post like a moderator can.

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Now you accuse me of lying when I clearly have not.

Oh yes you have.

I haven't changed the text in anyone's post "so as to make it say something else".

You're a liar.

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

I didn't say he changed the actual post, but that he changes the quote. He does it all the time. I never claimed he edited the actual post like a moderator can.

Here's what you claimed quantum:


Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:35pm:

Considering how many times you have changed others posts...

I take it you are now retracting this?

Pecker, you've changed the titles of threads I've started on a couple of occasions you slimy old poofter.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

Pecker, you've changed the titles of threads I've started on a couple of occasions you slimy old poofter.

Another lie, followed by a personal insult (which is also a lie).

You guys are on fire today.

When the headings were changed I went through the posting history of the relevant posters and found on both occasions the headings were changed after your posts. How do you explain that? Sorry for calling you slimy you old poofter.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:27pm:

When the headings were changed I went through the posting history of the relevant posters and found on both occasions the headings were changed after your posts. How do you explain that?

I can't explain why you're telling lies.

Can you?

Or, are we to assume that just because you say something it must be true?

A little bit of evidence would go a long way, don't you think?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:03pm: I didn't say he changed the actual post, but that he changes the quote. He does it all the time. I never claimed he edited the actual post like a moderator can. Here's what you claimed quantum: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:35pm: Considering how many times you have changed others posts... I take it you are now retracting this?

And what was the original claim?


Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

...selectively quote peoples post or even change the words of it so as to make it say something else so he can follow it up with "I agree", and "white flag accepted".

I was clearly talking about him changing the content of a post when quoting it. You are being as pedantic as Greg trying to look for ambiguity in a sentence and ignoring the context. I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't.

So as a moderator what are you going to do about it? It is blatant trolling and adds nothing to a discussion. In fact in some of the faster growing threads (such as those in general and politicians) some members can be left having to set things straight pages later because others read gregs quotes not knowing he had changed them. People are left having to say "I never said that" pages latter or even in other threads because of gregs rewriting when quoting them. It's disruptive, it's trolling, and clearly adds nothing to the quality of the forum.

Pecker, I'm not about to scour through thousands of posts to prove to others what I know. Quantum thinks you have done it as well.  It's a shame you can't be honest in the autumn years of your sorry life.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

Pecker, I'm not about to scour through thousands of posts to prove to others what I know. Quantum thinks you have done it as well.  It's a shame you can't be honest in the autumn years of your sorry life.

Not one piece of evidence, from either of you.

Not a single post.

You really should stop telling lies, you two.

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't.

Show an example.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example.

Fine. If I waste the time yet again proving you wrong, then you can leave the forum for good when the evidence is shown.

I couldn't be bothered arguing with the biggest troll on OP.

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example. Fine.

Good.

We'll all be here waiting.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

I couldn't be bothered arguing with the biggest troll on OP.

Aunt Herbie isn't here.

So, did you find any evidence to support your claim (i.e. lie)?

greggerypeccary wrote:

Quote:

No he doesn't. & No he's not. & Nobody is making excuses.

O.k. can you tell me where you stand?

Why did these muslims slaughter innocent people in France?

From your post I concluded you were trying to cite mental instability as the main cause, as a rebut against claims that islam is the initiator of islamic terror.

muslims who commit atrocities in the name of islam / allah, can and do quote chapter and verse, the texts which unequivocally exhort and sanctify their committing islamic atrocities.

There is no doubt that muhammad was a psychopathic homicidal maniac, there is no doubt that he sanctioned his insane atrocities as islamic tenets.

1400 years of islamic inbreeding has caused massive mental and physical problems.

So islamic insanity, islamic blood lust, islamic atrocities, synonymous with?  islam.

Lord Herbert's not a troll; he's just more knowledgeable than you.

moses wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:57pm:

From your post I concluded you were trying to cite mental instability as the main cause, as a rebut against claims that islam is the initiator of islamic terror.

I'd like to see anyone try to rebut that claim.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Lord Herbert's not a troll; he's just more knowledgeable than you.

He knows a thing or two about Bindi Irwin, that's for sure.

So, any evidence yet?

What about the other liar - Quantum - has he come up with anything?

I gotta say, it's not looking good for you two.

Clarify the Bindi Irwin statement you slimy old poofter.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:00pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:07pm: BS. Greggery and Bwian are the two biggest trolls on this forum. But of course - and spamming the extremism forum with all the variations of "I hate islam" threads you can think of, while the only other contribution consists of 3 word slogans like "ban islam" and "bomb muslims" while completely ignoring and requests to expand doesn't even rate a mention on the trolling scale.

3 word slogans like "ban islam" and "bomb muslims" ????

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:54pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example. Fine. Good. We'll all be here waiting.

So if I show an example of you changing a quote, you will leave the forum?

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:04pm:

Clarify the Bindi Irwin statement you slimy old poofter.

Please Clarify the Bindi Irwin statement you slimy old poofter



I am also curious without any insults of course.

greggerypeccary wrote:

Quote:

I'd like to see anyone try to rebut that claim.

So are you going to stand up and call for muslims to critically analyze the verses of:

jihad, hijrah, taqiyya and kitman, self alienation from normal society, hate speech, torture and murder of hypocrites / disbelievers / corrupters, a prophet of islam has to be a mass murderer etc. etc.

All of the above are the root cause of islamic terrorism.

When are you going to stand up and call for muslims to declare that such teachings are definitely fallible, imperfect, they are not  worthy of being taught in the 21st century?

Until muslims and their apologists do this, islamic terror will reign over islam.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:00pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:07pm: BS. Greggery and Bwian are the two biggest trolls on this forum. But of course - and spamming the extremism forum with all the variations of "I hate islam" threads you can think of, while the only other contribution consists of 3 word slogans like "ban islam" and "bomb muslims" while completely ignoring and requests to expand doesn't even rate a mention on the trolling scale. 3 word slogans like "ban islam" and "bomb muslims" ????

I was being generous. He has the occasional 4 word slogan you know - like "Islam is a cult"

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:54pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example. Fine. Good. We'll all be here waiting. So if I show an example of you changing a quote, you will leave the forum?

If you show an example I'll stop calling you a liar, liar.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:04pm:

Clarify the Bindi Irwin statement you slimy old poofter.

Herbie has a thing for young Bindi.

He thinks she's been 'sexualised'.

He says that she's "a little raver ... a modern day 'Lolita' ".

Aunt Herbie maintains that "she knows it - and is relishing the male attention she brings upon herself."

She's certainly got old Herbie's attention.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 4:15pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:54pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example. Fine. Good. We'll all be here waiting. So if I show an example of you changing a quote, you will leave the forum? If you show an example I'll stop calling you a liar, liar.

Very big of you. In other words you will stop doing what you shouldn't have been doing in the first place.

Anyway, let everyone else see what a liar you are. You want to deny something you have done many times and want one example to prove it... Fine;


chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:29am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:25am: What a sad time it is for lefties and Laurie Oakes. They all miss having a competent PM and government. Indeed. I didn't post that. Don't change my posts!!!

But I'm sure there will be a catch. I post an example, everyone can see you were lying and that your accusation that I was lying is false, but I'm sure this will still some how stretch on for many pages without you ever admitting to have being caught out again.

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

... you have done many times ...

Many: "a large number of".

Continue ...

moses wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Quote: I'd like to see anyone try to rebut that claim. So are you going to stand up and call for muslims to critically analyze the verses of: jihad, hijrah, taqiyya and kitman, self alienation from normal society, hate speech, torture and murder of hypocrites / disbelievers / corrupters, a prophet of islam has to be a mass murderer etc. etc. All of the above are the root cause of islamic terrorism. When are you going to stand up and call for muslims to declare that such teachings are definitely fallible, imperfect, they are not  worthy of being taught in the 21st century? Until muslims and their apologists do this, islamic terror will reign over islam.

Why, Moses do you keep demanding of Muslims what you won't do yourself about your own Holy Book and Religion?    ::)

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:16pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 4:04pm: Clarify the Bindi Irwin statement you slimy old poofter. Please Clarify the Bindi Irwin statement you slimy old poofter I am also curious without any insults of course.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420235512/173#173

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420235512/175#175

Herbie says she's "got the goodies".

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420235512/202#202

moses wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Quote: I'd like to see anyone try to rebut that claim. So are you going to stand up and call for muslims to critically analyze the verses of: jihad, hijrah, taqiyya and kitman, self alienation from normal society, hate speech, torture and murder of hypocrites / disbelievers / corrupters, a prophet of islam has to be a mass murderer etc. etc. All of the above are the root cause of islamic terrorism. When are you going to stand up and call for muslims to declare that such teachings are definitely fallible, imperfect, they are not  worthy of being taught in the 21st century? Until muslims and their apologists do this, islamic terror will reign over islam.

No, I'm not going to do anything.

Why would I?

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 4:15pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:54pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example. Fine. Good. We'll all be here waiting. So if I show an example of you changing a quote, you will leave the forum? If you show an example I'll stop calling you a liar, liar. Very big of you. In other words you will stop doing what you shouldn't have been doing in the first place. Anyway, let everyone else see what a liar you are. You want to deny something you have done many times and want one example to prove it... Fine; chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:33am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:29am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:25am: What a sad time it is for lefties and Laurie Oakes. They all miss having a competent PM and government. Indeed. I didn't post that. Don't change my posts!!! But I'm sure there will be a catch. I post an example, everyone can see you were lying and that your accusation that I was lying is false, but I'm sure this will still some how stretch on for many pages without you ever admitting to have being caught out again.

Ooooh, caught. 

But it's not surprising, greg is a man of very little integrity.

So Greg, are you willing to make plain your Inference that Herbert is a pedophile?.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:51pm: ... you have done many times ... Many: "a large number of". Continue ...

So there's the catch. Too late but;


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example.

You asked for a single example. You have been given a single example. That is all that was required. Here it is again;


chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:29am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:25am: What a sad time it is for lefties and Laurie Oakes. They all miss having a competent PM and government. Indeed. I didn't post that. Don't change my posts!!!

See it? Right there ^. That is "an example". You got your example. One more time so no one misses it;


chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:29am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:25am: What a sad time it is for lefties and Laurie Oakes. They all miss having a competent PM and government. Indeed. I didn't post that. Don't change my posts!!!

Your done. Finished. You denied it. You falsely accused me of lying about it. But there it is! Right there! Clear as f**king crystal for everyone to see. You loose greggery. Game over!

Quantum wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 9:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 6:03pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:51pm: ... you have done many times ... Many: "a large number of". Continue ... So there's the catch. Too late but; greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example. You asked for a single example. You have been given a single example. That is all that was required. Here it is again; chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:33am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:29am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:25am: What a sad time it is for lefties and Laurie Oakes. They all miss having a competent PM and government. Indeed. I didn't post that. Don't change my posts!!! See it? Right there ^. That is "an example". You got your example. One more time so no one misses it; chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:33am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:29am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:25am: What a sad time it is for lefties and Laurie Oakes. They all miss having a competent PM and government. Indeed. I didn't post that. Don't change my posts!!! Your done. Finished. You denied it. You falsely accused me of lying about it. But there it is! Right there! Clear as f**king crystal for everyone to see. You loose greggery. Game over!

What topic is that from Quantum - it looks to me more like an accidental edit to reduce the number of responses. Is chicken saying that it had been edited or as it seems to me that it had been written by someone else and misattributed to him?

Without the context or a copy of what was really said by Chicken it is difficult to determine if you are correct in your accusation.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 9:39pm:

Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 6:03pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:51pm: ... you have done many times ... Many: "a large number of". Continue ... So there's the catch. Too late but; greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:42pm: I won't retract my comment but I will clarify it; When quoting a post he changes the words in the quotation box to make it say something it didn't. Show an example. You asked for a single example. You have been given a single example. That is all that was required. Here it is again; chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:33am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:29am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:25am: What a sad time it is for lefties and Laurie Oakes. They all miss having a competent PM and government. Indeed. I didn't post that. Don't change my posts!!! See it? Right there ^. That is "an example". You got your example. One more time so no one misses it; chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:33am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:29am: chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:25am: What a sad time it is for lefties and Laurie Oakes. They all miss having a competent PM and government. Indeed. I didn't post that. Don't change my posts!!! Your done. Finished. You denied it. You falsely accused me of lying about it. But there it is! Right there! Clear as f**king crystal for everyone to see. You loose greggery. Game over! What topic is that from Quantum - it looks to me more like an accidental edit to reduce the number of responses. Is chicken saying that it had been edited or as it seems to me that it had been written by someone else and misattributed to him? Without the context or a copy of what was really said by Chicken it is difficult to determine if you are correct in your accusation.

You can click on the link (the member name on the quote takes you to the post)

Peccyboy just got f*cked up.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:34pm:

Peccyboy just got f*cked up.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...