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General Discussion >> Thinking Globally >> Post a Charli cartoon here... competition http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420809333 Message started by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 9th, 2015 at 11:15pm |
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Title: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 9th, 2015 at 11:15pm
Ici! Pour les mortes de Paris!!
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 9th, 2015 at 11:28pm
Living proof they posted stuff NOT sending up Islamic extremism:-
"Europe directed by the banks!" (sort of) "Maybe need to ally with the BNP!" (The British national socialists)... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 10th, 2015 at 7:00pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Kat on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:11am
This one popped up on my FB news feed the other day - I think it's the best one I've seen so far.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:19am Kat wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:11am:
http://redflag.org.au/node/4373 |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:22am |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:32am
The cartoons suggesting the enlightened West fight the sword with the pen are hypocritical when placed in the context of the willingness of the US and allies to drop bombs on innocent children.
They're a load of bullshit propaganda. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Redneck on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:34am
Not A Charlie Hebdo but a good one
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:35am
and a good point.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:36am Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:32am:
agreed. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Kat on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:38am Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:19am:
I only got the cartoon, not the accompanying article. Not a bad article, and does raise some good points. But I don't think he's grasped the real meaning of these cartoons. His take seems to be that they are to show a gun-loving, violent culture that the Persil-white West doesn't use violence to fight its battles, but words, and he goes on to show, quite correctly, that this isn't the case. But then, we already knew that. My take, and it appears to be that of the majority, is that the cartoons are to show that 'we' will not be cowed into silence or submission by these attacks and the reason they are in cartoon form is simply because the victims were cartoonists* who were killed because they drew cartoons. *Obviously the dead flics weren't, and no, I haven't forgotten about them. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:49am
Charlie Hebdo satirised and pilloried almost everything that's come out of the murders. One of the surviving cartoonists likened the support that they've received to the psycho protests against the Mo cartoons in Pakistan. I believe he said he "vomits" on the hypocrites now standing with them.
Charb probably dies another death every time a politician or mainstream journalists post #suis Charlie. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 11:00am
this thread to me is poor taste..it does neither the French nor us any favours...and that goes for those who think the cartoons are funny or make a point..
the point is about 20 people are dead....because of a cartoon...I am sorry.. I dont get it.... how many people saw those cartoons..?? I bet no one in Australia ever bought the magazine just to read cartoons on Islam... did they???.... yet here we are saying its FREE SPEECH.... no it isnt.... if FANATICS think its worth killing over.... fanatics are like tumors they are everywhere cut one out another takes its place... to make a mockery of something that makes people want to murder people they do not know...is balmy...its not something to be proud of....dont you guys get it.. would you poke a tiger until it went mad and mauled your family?????????...... you know I have grandsons who pick and poke at each other all the time..in the car its murder on a long trip...what do you say all the time to the one who starts the trouble????????? I bet its.. DONT DO IT.. ::) think about it folks....big deal your poking this tiger froma huge distance....me I think its rude and undignified.... its not what we do in this country. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:04pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:19am:
Disgusting. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:40pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 11:00am:
Do you suggest that if anyone is so extreme they will murder to get their way, we should give whatever they want to them ? that's how I interpret your suggestion. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2015 at 1:34pm
This one was done by Catherine Meurisse who was late to work that day, which consequently saved her life. The wrath of God must not have befallen her.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 1:38pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:40pm:
What were they asking for? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 2:42pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:40pm:
in a word YES...why because you are dealing with FANATICS MADMEN IF YOU LIKE.. and to keep drawing pics thats sends them even madder and risk peoples lives....I ASK YOU IS IT WORTH IT.? IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. for the simple reason all they are doing is MOCKING most of us look at a cartoon in the morning paper either get a laugh or get huffy then forget about it.. but them we have a group who see neither humour nor freedom of speech they see blasphemy and get outraged...... and blimey they KILL people because of it.. this place was under threat 24/7 they even had their own police guard... yet still they went ahead... a high price for drawing a cartoon... if a comedian stood on a stage and for hours lampooned you and your family said terrible things about them... wouldnt you be annoyed...but everyone laughed and he thought it was a huge thing to do.... because the few people that bought tickets did as well.. didnt really matter about you or your families feelings..it was all about him the comedian.... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 2:46pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 1:38pm:
thats the thing.. the cartoons said NOTHING it wasnt news it wasnt even funny... they were asked to stop because they were threatened if they didnt.... but they kept poking the tiger.... I am sorry but to me I can only say well they got really what they asked for....maybe even begged for.. spring thinks if they are Muslim then they have no right to expect anyone to do or stop anything... and I disagree I do not think a cartoon is worth someones life... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 2:50pm
well Cods we almost agree.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:05pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 2:46pm:
Just give in to the terrorists, hey? Let those crazy bastards dictate what you can and can't do. Freedom? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:17pm
From Arab Press:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dmitry K. on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:22pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 2:46pm:
Cods, every time terrorists take a hostages it works for them because you are afraid of. Every time terrorists cow you it works because you are afraid of. If you do not deal with terrorists it does not work. The point is not "I want to draw cartoon in exchange for someone's life" but "I want to show that terrorism does not work at all for us". Every time you stop yourself out of threats make sure you won't be a hostage next time because they know you are a nice victim to deal with. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:29pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:05pm:
typical of what FEAR does to us.. the good side.... you honestly think a cartoon was worth almost 20 lives dont you?????.... I find that pathetic to be honest... its called respect.... I notice you didnt mention my question to sprint regarding some poking fun every night about his family...... how would you feel greg?... if night after night you had to hear laughter all at you expense...mostly lies and even cruel??>.. would you turn the other cheek?? all I am saying is... stop drawing the cartoons if you are dealing with MADMEN.... it isnt something thats got RIGHT OR WRONG>>or that means they are winning.. and we are losing.... stop poking the tiger........he has made it loud and clear he doesnt like it.. and will kill if you dont stop |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:05pm:
how were they dictating what you cant do? Why does everyone have so much trouble answering this question. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:40pm Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:22pm:
No, that wasnt the journalists point at all. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dmitry K. on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:42pm
In addition,
The French word terrorisme in turn derives from the Latin verb terreō meaning "I frighten". That means "tiger poking" does not feed terrorism. Your fear is the thing terrorists like and use over and over again. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dmitry K. on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:43pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
I am talking about us. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:47pm Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:42pm:
What fear? im on record as stating I do not fear a terrorist attack. Try again. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:01pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:47pm:
Of course you don't. You believe it will not come to you. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:03pm
Funny, there wasn't a mention of the genocide of Christians by the Ottomans. Revisionist history always depends on how far you are willing to go back.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:04pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:29pm:
Given your stance on bullies, and how frequently you speak out about it, your attitude towards terrorists is quite surprising. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:21pm Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:42pm:
why would not drawing a picture prove you are frightened? its a fact.... some folks do not take kindly to being ridiculed.....and to do under the guise of freedom of speech...is not doing freedom of speech justice at all.. you are afraid it will make you look afraid if you say stop drawing the cartoons... I say it shows respect for the other person.... and you tell me whats wrong with showing respect??. to myway of thinking there isnt enough respect in this world. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:24pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:04pm:
WHAT ATTITUDES THAT... BO.. what attitude have I show terrorists????>.. are you saying only terrorists are BULLIES.... think thats a bit of a stretch.... but I would appreciate your reasoning for the comparison.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:31pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:29pm:
I've always thought cartoonists pushed the envelope a bit sometimes but what is the alternative: say nothing about the elephants and still pretend we are participating in something called democracy? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:37pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:24pm:
I said no such thing so please don't misrepresent what I actually said. You don't consider terrorists to be bullies apparently. I consider those who make demands on others and then threaten consequences on those that do not comply to be bullies. A bully is a bully and only the degree varies. How do you differentiate? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:53pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:37pm:
cods didn't. She asked you a question, and like most questions put to you, you duck them. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:57pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:37pm:
ok ok calm down.... these are DEADLY BULLIES... I have already said they are MADMEN FANATICS>>>>would you torment a tiger with a thorn in his foot... would you??.. that is not my version of a BULLY especially an internet bully.. if this business had only had rude nasty emails or tweets or facebook I would say YES IGNORE THE BUGGERS... but how do you ignore DEATH THREATS?? is it really a good idea to IGNORE DEATH THREATS... now they are more than BULLIES...I am sorry but they are... the degree varies by a HUGE AMOUNT death is death there is no going back... to compare a cyberspace bully with a terrorist is bizarre... if I thought i was putting my family in any danger just drawing a cartoon...but was given the chance to not draw that cartoon.. I know what I would do.... yes I may be afraid.. for my family if I didnt.. and yes I would be annoyed.. probably.... but I would get over that and my family would b e safe.... why is it so hard to respect someone elses feelings.?? people do get upset about pictures... does anyone remember the Piss Christ?... I thought it rather beautiful actually [urlhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/18/andres-serrano-piss-christ-destroyed-christian-protesters][/url] but a lot didnt.. and they got their way it was removed never to be seen again.. then there was a modern art in Canberra where the Queen and Prince Phillip were naked sitting on a park bench...it was vandalised overnight... never to be seen again.. this is what I mean about respect.......we each do things differently most dont KILL people but some do... and they think they have ev ery right to kill when people mock ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:59pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:03pm Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:53pm:
its an interesting topic dont you think aussie I have a completely different attitude to what has happened.... and yet instead of thinking about what I am saying some twist it to mean something else... I do not see any comparison between terrorism and cyber bullying.. but obviously BO does.. I just wish she would explain how... I think it is very important to hear everyones point of view.....now they are having a march through Paris..as if they have won a war....we all know.. if ISIL was celebrating like that we would be horrified... either way it doesnt bring those dead people back does it???... this like a lot of things could have been avoided... no one as far as I know has mentioned that. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:04pm Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
did I mess it up... thanks aussie...do you remember the CHristian uprising over that??????......I thought it was great.. I am mad I know.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:09pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:04pm:
No, I don't. I agree with your basic point which seems to be.......why go out of your way to ridicule someone? Is it meant as a joke? Or.....is it meant as a condemnation. It most certainly is a deliberate ridicule no matter which way you look at it. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:10pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
there are lots of things which cant be published legally in western countries, i dont know where you people get the absurd idea that western countries have freedom of speech. We dont, its just the things which arent allowed to be published differ. This is not about freedom of speech, its about whether you think it is right to be deliberatley offensive to another religion for no other reason than you can. Im fairly sure I can live my life without the need to publically draw caricatures of Mohammed. What about you? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:12pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
I am perfectly calm thanks Cods. If I wasn't I MIGHT TYPE LIKE THIS :) So are you saying that the majority of Muslims are offended by caricatures or just the fanatics? Let's just say it's the fanatics then. Do you think if we bow and scrape to fanatics that it will appease them and they will stop the killing? I don't believe it will. Actually, AP only took down the Piss Christ image 4 days ago after being accused of double standards by censoring the Charlie Hebdo cartoons but not the Piss Christ. I can see you are afraid of death threats and terrorists but ignoring them and appeasing them is not going to solve the problem. It is not going to go away by ignoring it. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:14pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:10pm:
No worries here. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:15pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:03pm:
I merely sad a bully is a bully and only the degree varies. I consider terrorists to be bullies, Deadly bullies but bullies none the less. You don't. I am not comparing internet bullies to terrorists per se. ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:16pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:10pm:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:23pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:15pm:
Nah, no you did not. This is what you said, in attack mode: Quote:
Totally different concepts given the topic. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:50pm
Why do we have to tip toe around the followers of a murderous pedophile?
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:54pm Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
I cannot believe how far these lefties JUSTIFY WHY THEY DONT HAVE A GO AGAINST ISLAM AS MUCH AS THEY DO CHRISTIANITY. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:57pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:12pm:
ARE YOU SAYING YOU WOULD NOT BE AFRAID IF IT WAS YOUR FAMILY WAS BEING THREATENED...YOU WOULD HAPPILY MARCH ON...BECAUSE YOU SEE IT AS BOWING AND SCRAPING?? I admire you stance at standing up to these people do you think those cartoon were worth 20 deaths??????.. sorry who is AP.... I havent seen anything on the Piss Christ since it happened... as you know no one threatened the author of the P.C. with death... but they did damage it and send it packing..... I seem to remember a hue and cry over something Frank Sinatra said when he was here and the PM threw him out of the country... we dont threatened death... but???..... anyway you are for standing up to them and keep drawing cartoons...I guess... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:58pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:10pm:
I thought years ago we all agreed there was no such thing as freedom of speech, atleast in Australia! People certainly need to express themselves somehow however so it's a never ending saga. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:01pm Rocketanski wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:16pm:
YOU DONT GET IT DO YOU.. THEY [ THE NUT JOBS] FIND IT INSULTING... what is so hard to say... dont lets do it then.. it upsets them..??? why deliberately antagonise..someone with a GUN.... why do that?..for a cartoon..is the world a better place because of those cartoons I doubt it... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:06pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:15pm:
well the difference for me is the terrorist have guns in their hands and murder in their hearts... and when they make threats they usually carry them out...they pick on simple minded young men who fall for the belief they will save the world and be rewarded... they dont care about losing their life.. its an honor... bullies if they had to front someone alone would run and hide... well you did compare what I have been saying about the bullies on ozpol.. so thats what made me think you could see a comparison.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:14pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:58pm:
not just Australia.. otherwise Julian wouldnt be holed up in London and Snowden in Moscow... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:25pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:01pm:
Wow, I guess the muslims have a resounding victory TERRORISM CAN ACTUALLY WORK, |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:30pm Rocketanski wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:16pm:
Im not getting "held over" Were you planning yourself to publish caricatures of Mohammed? All religion is a form of insanity. Not the point. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:31pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
of course it works, its got every rightie in Australia quivering in their panties, just like you. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dmitry K. on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:28pm cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 4:21pm:
I really try to show respect to people no matter what kind of groups they belong to. But I cannot show respect under the presser. It sounds like "show me respect or I will kill you". No one sent personal email with cartoons to them. If they do not like cartoons they can include this publisher into personal black list. No big deal. You do not visit websites you don not like, do you? Do not you think that "show me respect" is just a pretext to express one's self-conceit which has nothing to do with real insult? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:36pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:31pm:
Really, I think the issue really is the cowardice of the left, the terrorists are seeing that and cant believe there LUCK |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:39pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:25pm:
what does that mean stryker.. or are you lost for words.. ::) ::) I hate to be the bearer of bad news/./ but yes it is working...there are many cells all over the world and they get in touch with their blackberrys like us they are very modern..... and they dont care who or how they kill.. thats the difference between them and us.. we have a conscience and we have LAWS that most try to follow.. they dont bother with that bullsh!t... its us or them.. finish.. they watch us and laugh at us.. they way we elect our leaders then fight each other usually with quite a lot of hate and even on here some wish one party or another to die..its bizarre but thats what we do...most countries are divided...we just dont kill each other... yet. now a cartoon has caused 20 deaths for what good I will never know.. and some seem to think what we need is more cartoons.. ::) ::).. that will show the terrorists...make em back right off.. :D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:44pm Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:28pm:
rubbish.. thats not what they are saying... they are saying dont draw cartoons of our god..to them its blasphemy they dont like it... if you do we will KILL YOU...and they mean it.. how hard is it for you to understand that... you are dealing with people who will KILL YOU and anyone that gets in the way...if you keep drawing those pictures..mocking in other words..... now all I know is.. this isnt one lunatic with a gun saying this.. its many lunatics with many guns....and they dont mind dying in the attempt... I am saying whats so hard about showing these.."madmen" respect and doing what they ask... why is that such a big deal.. and why did 20 people have to die for it???>... you have no idea what you are talking about... we are dealing with FANATICS>> go look the word up. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:46pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:36pm:
there you go stryker playing the game they like to see.. what has this got to do with the left???>..dont you see fighting each other plays right into their hands.. they thrive on dissent.... blame blame blame its all we do.. find someone to blame as long as it isnt me.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:49pm
Here's two I put together:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:54pm
freediver.....what is the compelling need to ridicule a religion?
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:01pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:36pm:
make sure you look under your bed tonight |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by life_goes_on on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:18pm
One can only hope that terrorists attack a porn magazine.
Women, children, families.... all chanting in support... I am Hustler! I am Ribald! I am Juggs!!! |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:02pm Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:54pm:
To stand up for freedom of speech. cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 11:00am:
Cods are you saying we should self censor because Muslims go crazy if we make fun of them? Quote:
We had our first Muslim murders (in a while) in Sydney recently. Nowhere is safe from this. Quote:
Cods what do you think would be the likely consequence of ceding to these madmen on this particular issue? Quote:
We have slaughtered millions to defend our freedom. Winding up a few Muslims is a small price to pay. Quote:
It has everything to do with freedom of speech. The terrorists even said so. Quote:
That does not make sense Cods. If they were bashing Muslims it would not be about freedom of speech. If they are mocking them, that means it is. Quote:
If you realised it was about more than that, you might understand that global wave of support for Charlie Hebdo. IF you never take a stance, and never draw a line in the sand, they will take all of your freedoms, one by one. It is people like you that encourage terrorists, because you do their bidding for them. Quote:
I wouldn't pay him to perform for me. No-one is forcing Muslims to buy Charlie Hebdo magazines. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:08pm
I like cods, i really do and im sad that she feels that surrendering our free speech and freedom of expression ON CRITICISNG ISLAM is the course she feels better with if it means it would protect her family and those she cares for
What happened in Paris has spooked everyone on how far these radical muslims will set the limits on free speech when it comes to ISLAM FD, I dont blame her, |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:11pm freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:02pm:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:12pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:08pm:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:15pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:12pm:
The only sticker that i got today was LEFTIES ARE COWARDS WITH ISLAM, would you like to see it ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:27pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:08pm:
People have been spooked for a long time. It goes back to Salman Rushdie. It goes back to Muhammed himself sending assassins after a female poet who mocked him. There is a reason why there is no Muslim equivalent of The Life of Brian, and it is not for lack of material to work with. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:33pm freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
True, which goes to show why you and me and others have to express, THAT THE RELIGION OF ISLAM HAS SOME REAL DEEP PROBLEMS AT THE MOMENT. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:34pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:15pm:
sure, it wont be on your car though along with your "Love it or leave it" sticker. Courage is the main thing you fellows lack when you arent behind a keyboard. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:36pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Given how lefties cower to ISLAM, its big of you to lecture me about COURAGE, ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Kat on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:44pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:36pm:
Which only shows that you are NOT thinking, at least not in any rational way. You've ranted through half a dozen threads spewing this crap, and not once have you produced anything to back your claims up. All you've done is lash out at anyone who dares to introduce any common-sense to the discussion. But that's OK, no-one with any intelligence is taking any of you seriously. You might make a lot of noise, but you Islamophobes and bigots ARE in the minority and you do NOT speak for the vast majority of Australians. You WILL NOT PREVAIL. Bank on that. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:55pm stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
oh, I can always lecture you about courage. You might want to take the hint, it doesnt come from behind a computer keyboard. One day when you get a few hairs on your nuts you might remember that. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:56pm
Kat is correct Stinker. You are just a plaything to us now.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by jmjcare on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:33pm become contentious when one fails to respect the religious beliefs of others. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 1:03am stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:36pm:
righties love hiding behind daddykins big gigantic wallet... seriously, get off the crackpipe ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dmitry K. on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:42am cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:44pm:
There is no big deal because there is no such deal at all. People died because terrorists killed them. Americans and Russians always say: "We do not deal we terrorists". What we can do to stop them? Do not worry, they will find the way to blow themselves up if we stop drawing cartoons. Once Europe tried to deal with madman Hitler. From wiki: "Encouraged, Hitler began pressing German claims on the Sudetenland, an area of Czechoslovakia with a predominantly ethnic German population; and soon Britain and France followed the counsel of prime minister Neville Chamberlain and conceded this territory to Germany in the Munich Agreement, which was made against the wishes of the Czechoslovak government, in exchange for a promise of no further territorial demands." You know what followed after that. Do not underestimate fanatic's demands. They will never stop in there claims. Do you really believe that cartoons are the real reason of their aggression? They are poor and not content with their living standards. They disagree with you settled down in the sofa and allow yourself everything they will never do. May be it is time to confess that "tiger's den" need some social and economic improvements instead of feeding terrorism with out fears? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:54am jmjcare wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 10:33pm:
the right of Islam adherents to their religious belief. What I do not accept is any right they see to attack me on account of that religion. “If a madman were to come into this room with a stick in his hand, no doubt we should pity the state of his mind; but our primary consideration would be to take care of ourselves. We should knock him down first, and pity him afterwards.” - Samuel Johnson (1709-1784), British author. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:56am Lift dat keyboard an' kick dat page... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:07am ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 1:38pm:
The right to kill anyone who draws cartoons about any subject they don't like. Remember that for a right to be a Right it must be equally available to all - ergo - the right these fine freedom fighters were martyred for is the right of all to shoot anyone who upsets them by lampooning something they hold dear. No Republican or Democrat in the United States is safe.... no LNP or Labor adherent here is safe.... I'll have a bet each way... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:09am
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:14am Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:42am:
terrorism wasnt Hitler....you cannot compare one with the other.... the world knew where Hitler was.. he didnt have cells maybe in the house next door to you... the west always knew where the enemy was....and vice versa...to compare anything of yesterday to what is happening in this WAR is madness in itself... they are all around you... most of those who do the deed live in or around those they kill... as we know travel around the globe is getting harder....they dont fly in and then out anymore... as for your question.....yes i do they killed the owner and his staff AS THEY SAID THEY WOULD.... if your neighbour said he would kill you if you did not remove the pictures of Jesus from your front windows......... what would you do??????????....... would you put up more pictures????????.......... would you have a policeman at your door ........... would you trust that he would get used to your pictures and learn to love them......... please answer I am very interested in you reply. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:17am
I think I have the answer to this fearful problem..
drum roll please.. lets throw money at the terrorists.. like its fixing CLIMATE CHANGE... why wouldnt it fix them?.. after all this time and its that simple. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:32am stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:08pm:
FREEDOM OF SPEECH... DID YOU SEE WHAT THEY DID TO ANDREW BOLT.. WHO DARED TO POINT OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT WHITE ABORIGINALS..???????.. did you see what they did to Derryn Hinch because he dared to NAME A PAEDOPHILE..... lol is that really FREEDOM OF SPEECH that you are defending?? I AM SORRY....I have to LAUGH... a FEW good Catholics..didnt like the PISS CHRIST....and the artist removed it... a few FANATICS.[with guns] do not like these CARTOONS....... can you explain...the difference stryker... ignore the guns for a moment...think CARTOON.. was this SO CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH worht all those lives????????????????.. do you think it is perfectly reasonable of the SMH to publish every CARTOON sent from Charlie and put all their staff at risk..........because its their version of FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:49am cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:32am:
Damn right I do believe, Hey I wont argue that the grounds for freedom of speech and expression is not perfect, BUT AT LEAST WHAT WE HAVE HERE EVEN IF YOUR DISSATISFIED WITH IT IS A HELL OF ALOT BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE IN NORTH KOREA, CHINA, IRAN AND I CAN GO LISTING MORE COUNTRIES WHO DONT HAVE A LEVEL OF FREE SPEECH AND EXPRESSION THAT WE HAVE HERE. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:50am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 1:03am:
Seriously grow a brain, its not such a bad thing to have, ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:56am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:49am:
stryker.. this didnt take place HERE... we are talking about what happened in Paris... you are talking about losing FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. because a Cartoon is withdrawn..... a lot bow I am thinking.. ::) ::) I have asked over and over... why is it so hard to stop printing offensive cartoons??? if they printed up pictures say of your daughter in vulgar attire... and made mock of her... would you be distressed?????.. would you try to put a stop to it if she was upset by it??? simple yes or no.... at least I will know how much you will defend FREEDOM OF SPEECH> |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:02am ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:56pm:
I bet your brain always feels brand new all the time, SINCE YOU NEVER USE IT, |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:07am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:02am:
I trust that made you feel a whole lot better stryker.. you always buy the old tag.. two wrongs make a right??... ::) ::) so if we go and blow up 20 or so Muslims.. Paris will heal a whole lot faster.... :D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:09am cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:56am:
That is not the same Cods, it wasnt about any son or daughter OF THESE TERRORISTS, This was about some figure at the centre of the Islamic religion that they beileve is above criticism, IM SORRY IM NOT BUYING YOUR FEARFUL APPROACH TO THE WHOLE ISSUE. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:12am cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:01pm:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:13am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:50am:
stryker is embarrassed at the bahviour of rightie ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [suck suck suck ohhhhhhhhh daddykins your wallet is so big..] |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:18am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:09am:
you cant in other words...ok stryker...I am not having a go at you I am just saying its you that is over reacting.... it is not fear that makes me say this.....its commonsense...why antagonize people with guns... it isnt about what they believe they see it as INSULTING...dont you understand that... like those who found the PISS CHRIST INSULTING. I thought it was beautiful....but the "FANATICS" didnt.. the only difference between the Christian fanatics and the muslim ones is they didnt shoot the place up... but they did win.... despite FREEDOM OF SPEECH> |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:18am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:13am:
Judging from that post, I guess horse head will never ever grow one, :D :D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:20am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:12am:
ditto for you rocky... you are totally missing the point... but then you are a bit of a FANATIC yourself arent you? ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:31am cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:18am:
Im sorry to say this but you are justifying your trembling fear for this as COMMON SENSE. Im not saying we should forever post every insult cartoon about the mohammed, Im saying if christianity, judaism or any other religion is good enough for criticism, SO IS ISLAM. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:42am Kat wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:44pm:
The evidence is all around us. Cods has been "rationally" arguing that we should self censor to appease Islamic militants because we are afraid of getting shot. Even after Charlie Hebdo many people, even in the media, are tripping over themselves to come up with reasons why we should respond in any way, except to upset the lunatics. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:51am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:31am:
well so is mocking your child... then... you are confusing the issue.. with what you think is RIGHT.. one size fits all.. ::) we are talking about MADMEN who threatened death then carry it through... dont you get that???... if a group of Christians went berserk at the film Life of Brian... and threatened to burn down every theatre that showed it...... when it was released.. would you still say if its good enough for judism or Islam to be mocked....well burn them down,...see if we care.. its our FREEDOM you are playing with??... you are the one that feels threatened... you even say it.. its good enough for other religions then its got to be good enough for them.... its dumb answer sorry........its like saying well I like XXXX beer so I decree there will only be one beer...and everyone will drink it because I like it.. you cannot force people to like something because it doesnt offend you.. and I am all in favor of saying dont draw a cartoon that will offend if it means someones life..... now Larry Pickering is under protection..... will he be happy putting his family in danger all for a cartoon... ::) ::) I will wait and see how arrogant he is and if he draws more pics........will be interesting stryker..... to see if he goes with commonsense......or be big and brave for the sake of FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. the pen as they say is mightier... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:00am freediver wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:42am:
so what do you suggest fd??...it isnt a case of self censoring... how many people make a living out of cartoons...especially confronting cartoons.... ::) now we have Larry Pickering he could live next door to anyone of us....is his neighbours happy he is being threatened????.....all because he gets excited and draws a pic of someones god and expec ts them to laugh at it... instead they get their guns out... it isnt a cse of upsetting .... its a case of respect or being disrespectful.... in this instance its the Islamic militants whom we know is very very aggressive....if for instance they said they would chop off a head of one of their captives for every cartoon........would we still print up those cartoons... just to prove we have the upper hand....we wont be dictated too by monsters....right!. now is Larry going to be allowed to print up more pics... does he live next door to stryker b y any chance?????????... just asking stryker I am just wondering which side is being the unreasonable side?.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:04am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:31am:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:05am
we self censor all the time, we constantly do it on this forum or we get banned. Whats the issue?
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:09am ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:04am:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:35am
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:36am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:09am:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:41am
To run away from trouble is a form of cowardice and, while it is true that the suicide braves death, he does it not for some noble object but to escape some ill.
Aristotle The opposite for courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow. Jim Hightower |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:14am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:09am:
Has it? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:16am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:41am:
Stryker hasn't heard of direct and indirect attack.. :) :) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:18am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:09am:
http://banned-cartoons.com/ http://cbldf.org/banned-comic/banned-challenged-comics/ |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:18am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:09am:
absolutely!!! if teacher directed her class room of children to draw humiliating pictures of Mohammed and they in turn were threatened with death... what would you do?? I would order her to not draw the pics.... am I afraid of dying..no I am not... do I fear for those who will die because of some useless picture... yes I do.. its very simple rocky....I do not think poking fun at someone who does not like fun being poked..... and will kill anyone who does it... is worth it that is all.. if you think its backing down.... backing down from WHAT exactly???>. being disrespectful..... ::) ::) as Ian has pointed out... disrespect in the form of abuse isnt allowed even on this lowly forum....we are threatened with being banned....not death exactly but most heed the threat none the less.. ::) ::) do you call them weak and giving in???? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:26am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:41am:
wonderful words.. did those who died in this latest massacre.. have GUNS...did charlie rebdo arm the staff knowing their lives were in danger?????... we are talking about something that could have been avoided....by one simple act..... yet you are so blind to what should have happened you even now stoop to cowardice as a form of backing up what you are saying... you think it is courageous to expect people whos lives have been threatened to take the risk by working in an office with no guns or weapons of any kind to fight back with is a show of bravery????????????? its standing up for what they believe in...??? really... all they had was a CARTOON to fight this gun battle with and that makes sense to you?.. so back to Larry if he lived next door to you would you encourage him to draw more cartoons like the one he already has????... because thats what you are saying.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:27am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:18am:
havent some Enid Blyton books been banned from libraries as well... makes us look right charlies doesnt it? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:33am ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:04am:
its the blinkers that does it ..lol.. they change track in the hope it will derail.....now rocky wants all pics banned...he doesnt get it it the rude crude insulting ones that are the problem.. we love CARTOONS..who doesn t love mickey.. but these guys DONT... and they mean it when they say they will kill you......what is so hard about understanding that???... what is so bloody important about drawing a rude pic of mohammed.. what turns people on that they think its more important for someone to draw those pictures than it is to prevent a life being taken... ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:38am cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:27am:
Yes, I think Noddy was banned. From memory, the protagonist was getting into bed with Big Ears (which drove Christians nuts). And, some people were offended by golliwogs. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:42am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:38am:
hahahah was it ever proved they were gay... or was it all in someone dirty little mind.....and dont forget black golly... fancy a black golly being bad for children... I have made black gollies and people love them.. but some will ban anything...but as we know some think its only Muslims that do.. ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:50am cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:42am:
We always had golliwogs in our family (when I was a kid), and none of us turned out to be racist. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:56am
we should be ashamed treating gollies like that in fact I even had a black doll.. :P so there...I wish I still had her..
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:15am stryder wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:41am:
when are you leaving for Iraq? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:18am cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:42am:
Golli-wogs were a shameful reminder of an atrocious human story! |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:20am ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:15am:
Exactly: righty tries to make lefty go to war for him and his fascist mates! |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:21am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:18am:
Hey Hey It's Saturday ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEtjaZ8ZuNU |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:48am cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:56am:
Rocky has an appointment: |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by HooYAY its FriYAY on Jan 13th, 2015 at 12:01pm ian wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:55pm:
Look at the key board warrior Ian letting rip would you!! Why don't you practice what you preach, huh? ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 13th, 2015 at 12:33pm
**enters stage right, with a bucket of petrol:-
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25980277/islamic-leaders-says-charlie-hebdo-terrorist-attacks-a-cure/?cmp=ydn "An Islamic politician has described the killing of 10 journalists at Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris and two police officers as a 'cure'. Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, wrote the controversial blog on the group's website claiming the horrific shootings were a reaction to the “daily humiliation” of Muslims and “insults to their book and prophet”, reports News Corp." |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 13th, 2015 at 12:36pm
**kicks page...
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 1:11pm HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 12:01pm:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by HooYAY its FriYAY on Jan 13th, 2015 at 1:35pm ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 1:11pm:
When you work it our let us normal people know, ok numpty. ::) ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 13th, 2015 at 2:05pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 12:33pm:
I picked a bad day to give up smoking ~~~~~~~ lights up ~~~~~~~~ |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Black Orchid on Jan 13th, 2015 at 2:06pm
Ismail Al Wahwah had his passport confiscated in Jordan in 2011 and he was even refused entry into
Indonesia in 2007 yet he is still welcomed back into Australia to preach hate. “They send their troops to Iraq to bomb Iraq to spread democracy. We will send our troops to Australia, to France to Germany,” “We believe the world deserves another world order. We are ready to sacrifice everything for our concept." “We will expose the true face of capitalism, a dictatorship in the name of freedom,” “To do a change you have to pay price. Politics is lying, Your politicians are criminals, your government is criminal. Your civilisation will pay the price.” Hizb ut-Tahrir should be banned here and its leader should be deported. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 13th, 2015 at 2:11pm
Religion of peace - rhetoric of violence and death.... left hand doesn't tell the right hand which fatwah it is carrying...
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 13th, 2015 at 2:12pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 2:06pm:
Astounding - no wonder the ratbag fringe think we're fair game - we roll over and expose our belly for them..... Peter Ryan was right! |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Black Orchid on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:05pm
Hisb ut-Tahrir is banned in Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Russia, Pakistan, parts of Central Asia, Germany, Netherlands, Russia, Bangladesh yet it is free to operate in Australia, Britain, USA and Canada.
Yes, it is astounding. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:15pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 2:11pm:
... they suffer from ye olde communication breakdown, basically! Not embracing the printing press was always said to be their point of failure. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:27pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 2:11pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sheikh-ismail-alwahwah-a-sinister-player-in-a-world-of-radicals/story-fni0cx12-1227085769758 unfortunately he isnt alone....and you can bet yourself they all have aussie citizenship.. but I also bet that if Abbott wanted to cancel their passports.. out would come the Left and say something like only when they have killed 500 people.. like letting back in those who went to Syria thumbing their noses at Australia.... only to be allowed back in because the left would allow the new law to be retrospected...... so now we have 20 ex Jihadist back on centerlink..after they did their study tour with ISIL>.. ::) ::).. probably doing a recruitment drive for them.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:28pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:05pm:
looking at the senate we have in this country.... they will stop at nothing to stop the govt from working... ask palmer what he is capeable of doing????? ::) ::) have you seen one left leaning MP stick his head up during all this???>... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:32pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:27pm:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:34pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:28pm:
abbott doesnt meed the senate to either deport known hate mongers or to ban hate organisations |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:36pm ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:32pm:
they brought in a new law.. about those leaving the country to fight in Syria..with ISIL...they come back they will be arrested.....for whatever...no centrelink...ouch. but the left LABOR refused to let it pass with retrospected from the date of the new legislation.... so all those that went first up including the head holding man... will not be arrested on return ... since the law was passed... 20 have returned.. and are walking the streets......because we couldnt stop them.. thanks to LABOR. thats why I blame the left. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:37pm
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:38pm ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:34pm:
can you imagine the uproar......they tried arresting one man and the thanks we got was to pay him out a huge sum... all because the left wouldnt support the govt... its easier to pay out tax money.. dont you know that. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:39pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:36pm:
what? why did Abbott let them leave in the first place? No problems with stopping anyone leaving the country at the border, no problems with confiscating passports either. Like I said, the blame lies entirely with the government of the day. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:40pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:36pm:
ah, so you don't actually like copper internet either ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:40pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:36pm:
you have no power you are disempowered you gave your power to politicians when you voted . so keep whining till the cows come home keep blaming one party and praising another then when the other party gets in its a REAL party then a few years later the shoe is on the other foot then that one is demonised and the other praised, so tell me cods, how many years have you been disempowered im interested namaste |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:41pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:38pm:
you keep mentioning the left, I fail to see how they come into this. Abbotts government has the ability to deport known hate mongers without authority form the senate, why isnt he doing it? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:12pm ian wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:41pm:
really how so??...dont they need a reason to deport someone???...since when is spouting WHAT THEY CLAIM THE KORAN is all about a crime??...so far just about every religious kook comes out and says whatever Abbott tries to do........... goes to far..... remember when Howard changed the gun laws.. we got ourselves a pro gun Shooters party....another few 'its only about me'.. to to deals with.. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:13pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
if only no one was dead I would find that funny. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by life_goes_on on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:30pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dmitry K. on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:43pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:14am:
Removing the pictures of Jesus from my front windows is a strange request as well as stop drawing cartoons. Obviously there is a madmen. I would like to call the police to protect myself. Because I am sure that the pictures of Jesus is just a pretext. What's next? They will kill us if my wife go out with uncovered head? Let the judge decide who is wrong. I won't let them think that they can break the law. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:57pm Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:43pm:
ok. is it your right.. to put yourself and your family/workers in danger...because you will not be intimidated into removing those pics of Jesus.. would you for instance arm the members of your family/workers.....would you at least give them some chance to fight back...... your neighbour means business he has the guns and the bombs and you dont know where or when he could confront you..... you can put police out the front gate like Charlie Hebdo did... the picture or the cartoon is not the problem.....the problem is the person who doesnt like it... hes invisible most likely someone who doesnt know you....why would he kill you for a picture.?? does it matter WHY???.. he WILL thats what matters. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dmitry K. on Jan 13th, 2015 at 5:23pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:18am:
Cods, here is your mistake (in my opinion). It is a tiger who pokes us. We did literally nothing. But tiger is not content with his life and try to check our weakness and vulnerability. And of course no one wants to die so it is a good point to poke in. Why Christians do not ask to stop drawing cartoons about Jesus? Because they just do not care. They are content with their lives for a most part. I am from Russia and we have many Muslims from poor south regions in Moscow. And we had two terrible acts of terrorism in a row previous New Year eve. And of cause no one want to die here as well. I'll tell you one thing. Every time they feel weakness they start behave yourself like a beasts. Many of them are very desperate and disobedient persons. But if you show them that you are not going to break the law whatever they say to you they become quite. As the barbarians they bow before the strongest. And the law is the strongest thing I have ever seen. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dmitry K. on Jan 13th, 2015 at 5:31pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
It is not ME who put my family in a danger. It is madman who does it. That is the point. We cannot avoid madman claims by simply removing pictures. Madman will no suddenly disappear. He remains discontented. And it puts in danger everyone. Not only me. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 5:52pm Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
hi dmitry r u posting from Russia?/ how interesting... I know what you are saying.. I know this really isnt about CHristians and muslims.. the majority of whom are law abiding people.. some on here have been upset with pickerings cartoons of gillard rather unkind.. but they didnt threaten his life if he didnt stop.. Charlie Hebdo was threatened...they had clear warning that certain nasty people would kill them if they didnt stop..\ this tiger meant BIG BUSINESS... he wasn t kidding... he would kill all who didnt stop the cartoons.. C harlie Hebdo thought up you george no one tells me what to do... as was his right... ... he made a choice to proceed...there is no law in France stopping them.. it was entirely up to them.... they made a choice..and now we know what the consequences were..... do you accept it was the right choice for them to make??>. this tiger is not in a cage it is out there in many disguises....he could stalk you without you knowing it..know where you kids go to school... we live in evil times.. it will be a while,b efore we sort it all out and learn to live side by side.. in the mean time.. was it the right thing for this magazine to do...knowing the result as we do.. 17 dead. if next week you knew another 17 would be dead because of printing a cartoon would you go ahead with it.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 5:55pm Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 5:31pm:
dmitry listen.. if a madman was running around your neighbourhood cutting off heads and putting them on fence poles .. would you tell all the members of your family to carry on as normal.. do not let one madman change your life.. is that what you are saying.?? we know who is wrong dmitry and we know they power they have....but would you really allow a child to walk to school by themselves because no madman is going to stop us doing what we always do..??? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:47pm
This debate makes for some wonderful stuff in conflicting positions depending on the perceived threat.
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Quite true. Yet, we somehow believe that if there is a paedophile register, that makes the bad man go away. Pfffft! |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:50pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 5:55pm:
oh oh oh:IS THE KEYWORD 'NEIGHBOURHOOD' ????? ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:32pm Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:47pm:
oh come on aussie wouldnt you rather know you had a paedophile living next door...than a terrorist?????... hey did you see you will break the law if you smoke on your own balcony in Qld....lol..gawd they have some time to come up with all this dont they>>>must be the funny weather you have.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:41pm
Bewdy! A comparison between pedophiles and muslims. I didn't even have to make up that one!
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:09pm Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
No, not a direct comparison at all. Have another read. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:12pm cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
I saw where that was posted. It is rubbish................so far. Link. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:15pm
Indirect comparison. Close enough, Pinko.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2015 at 9:45pm
"Indirect comparison. Close enough, Pinko."
No, it was a comment about 'conflicting positions,' sort of like the concept of 'conflicts of/in law.' |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:29pm
It is surprisingly difficult to get a linkable copy of this image on the internet.
Defiant Charlie Hebdo depicts Prophet Muhammad on cover http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30790409' This week's edition of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo will show a cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad holding a "Je suis Charlie" sign. Above the cartoon are the words "All is forgiven". This comes after Islamist gunmen last week raided the magazine's Paris office, killing 12 people. Meanwhile, French MPs will gather for the first time since the attack. In Israel, the funerals will be held for four Jewish victims of a separate Paris shooting by an Islamist gunman. A total of 17 people were killed in three days of terror attacks in the French capital last week. About 10,000 troops are being deployed across France after the attacks, and a huge unity rally was held in Paris on Sunday. 'Not giving in' The latest cover of Charlie Hebdo has been published in advance by French media. Outside France, the Washington Post, Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine, Corriere della Sera in Italy and the UK's Guardian are among publications to show the cartoon. Relatives of Yoav Hattab, a victim of the attack on the Paris kosher supermarket, gather for his funeral near Jerusalem, 13 January 2015 Mourners at the funerals of victims of the supermarket killings have begun gathering in Israel Members of the Zaka emergency response team pray beside the coffins of four victims of an attack at a kosher supermarket on Friday, before their transport from Paris to Israel for burial, 12 January 2015 The bodies were flown overnight from France to Israel The slogan in French "Je suis Charlie" ("I am Charlie") was widely used following the 7 January attack on the magazine, as people sought to show their support. Three million copies of Wednesday's edition are being printed. Normally only 60,000 are sold each week. Charlie Hebdo's lawyer Richard Malka told France Info radio: "We will not give in. The spirit of 'I am Charlie' means the right to blaspheme." Survivors of the massacre have been working on the magazine from the offices of the French daily newspaper Liberation. Five of Charlie Hebdo's cartoonists - including the editor - were killed in the attack. The new edition will be created "only by people from Charlie Hebdo", its financial director, Eric Portheault, told AFP news agency. Contributions from other cartoonists were declined. Eulogies The four Jewish victims of the supermarket attack - Yoav Hattab, Philippe Braham, Yohan Cohen and Francois-Michel Saada - will be buried at the Givat Shaul cemetery in Jerusalem on Tuesday. line From left: Yohan Cohen, Philippe Braham, Yoav Hattab and Francois-Michel Saada Yohan Cohen, 22, worked at the kosher supermarket Philippe Braham, 45, was a business manager for an IT firm Yoav Hattab, 21, was a student and the youngest supermarket victim Francois-Michel Saada, 64, was a former pension fund manager Their bodies arrived before dawn on a flight from France for the ceremony which is due to take place around noon local time (10:00 GMT). The victims' relatives will recite a traditional prayer and read eulogies. The office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the families had asked for the burials to take place in Israel. Mr Netanyahu and Israeli President Reuven Rivlin will speak at the funerals - a measure of the connection Israel feels with events in Paris, the BBC's Kevin Connolly in Jerusalem reports. Their challenge is to find words to address the sense in Israel that the dead were victims of a mood of anti-semitism as well as an act of Islamist extremism, our correspondent adds. New footage The violence began after brothers Said and Cherif Kouachi attacked the magazine's office. Witnesses said they shouted "we have avenged the Prophet Muhammad" after the shootings. The brothers were later killed by French security services after a stand-off north of Paris. Separately, Amedy Coulibaly - whom investigators have linked to the brothers - had killed four people at a kosher supermarket in eastern Paris on Friday before police stormed the building. Coulibaly is also believed to have shot dead a policewoman the day before. His partner Hayat Boumeddiene is now believed to be in Syria. She has been identified as a suspect by French police, although she left France before the attacks. Six people suspected of belonging to a cell behind the Paris attacks are still thought to be at large, French police have told AP news agency. It quotes police as saying they are searching the Paris region for a Mini Cooper car registered to Boumeddiene. Newly-released CCTV footage appears to show her arriving at an Istanbul airport in Turkey on 2 January. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:44pm
the cartoon isnt inflammatory though is it?
there is a difference to those that caused the death of 17 people I think..... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by bb on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:50pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:08pm
Well done bb. You refuse to reproduce cartoons mocking Islam in the face of a sustained global campaign by Muslims against freedom of speech, because you think it is wrong to upset them. But you have no problem reproducing cartoons against Jews, Christians etc.
Perhaps you are just afraid to post a Muhammed cartoon? Or do you want to point out how banal the cartoons are that make Muslims riot in the streets? What point are you trying to make? Did you think it might upset someone? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by DreamRyderX on Jan 15th, 2015 at 5:15am |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 15th, 2015 at 6:39am
. Has anyone seen any Jesus caricatures in a similar vein?
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 15th, 2015 at 6:58am freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:08pm:
is it amusing???? did any of those pics raise a laugh???.. does mocking something like this.. make us superior or stronger than the other guy??.. ::) I dont think so... why not cartoon of domestic violence.. a lot of people get a buzz from doing that?? >:( abuse of children even babies.. wow lots of amusing cartoons on that subject I bet.. >:( ' nothing to do with religion just basic human nature.. that fill our court rooms every day.. come on lets mock and make fun of what men do behind closed doors... its not just the clergy you know or muslims...... >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 15th, 2015 at 7:05am
ironically should just 1 person make a complaint hes left himself open to prosecution and a possible jail sentence. people think they are anonymous on the internet and they are not, the owner of this website will be forced to reveal his details should a subpoena be issued.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 15th, 2015 at 7:12am
I'm terrified. I might get in twouble for mocking a murderous pedophile from mythology. Lame Officer Softcock, lame.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 15th, 2015 at 7:13am
glad he posted them though, getting a little tired of people who have never viewed them saying how innoffensive these cartoons were.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:06am ian wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 6:39am:
The life of Brian? How many artists and actors were slaughtered in the riots following the release of that movie? Quote:
Some of them are. Admittedly I do not always get French humour. Cods would you like us to ban it for not being funny? Quote:
Tolerating humour and protecting freedom of speech makes us civilised. It makes our society superior. Why are you trying so hard to make terrorists our equals Cods? Are you afraid to say that freedom of speech is a good thing? Quote:
There are plenty of cartoons about domestic violence. Mocking wife beaters is a good way to shame them. One of my favourite songs is about wife beating. Quote:
I bet if we were more open in mocking Muslims about Muhammed's pedophilia, there would be less children being raped in the world. Would you like that, or is it more important not to hurt the feelings of the rapist, because they wrap their pedophilia in a blanket of religious sensitivity? Quote:
Ian do you think this website should be censored for reporting on the Charlie Hebdo story? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryker on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:14am freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:06am:
And no Christian killed Martin scorcesee when he made the movie THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, back in 1988, which attracted protests from christians. especially with a sex scene between jesus and mary of magdalene. And he still lived and went on to make GOODFELLAS, THE DEPARTED AND RECENTLY THE WOLF OF WALL STREET. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:20am
Meanwhile, the west is struggling to defend the right to draw a funny picture of Muhammed, in the face of sustained efforts by Muslims, through a variety of means, to outlaw it or make people too afraid to exercise their freedom.
Nothing to do with Islam of course. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Phemanderac on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:40am
It seems to me that we can either approach serious and sustained abuses with satire (an age old practice, mostly of those with no other "power" at their disposal), or, we could act with bloody minded terror and violence in response to those who are perceived to have done the wrong thing (be they Muslims because of terrorism, Christians because of child abuse issues or even Politicians because of, well, being Politicians).
I personally think using a pen/pencil is probably preferable to a gun/knife or bomb. Maybe that's just me. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 15th, 2015 at 11:19am
yes Fd, a funny picture of Muhammed. Not an extremly offensive cartoon.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 15th, 2015 at 11:24am freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:06am:
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Some of them are. Admittedly I do not always get French humour. Cods would you like us to ban it for not being funny? [/quote] if you laughed at any of those "cartoons" you have serious mental health issues. Its not humour, no matter how hard you try and portray it to be. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 15th, 2015 at 11:30am
Oh fiddle dee dee a group of silly cartoons. Nowhere near as bad as those muslims in Sydney parading beheading posters
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 15th, 2015 at 12:01pm
He's NOT the Messiah - he's just a very naughty boy.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Phemanderac on Jan 15th, 2015 at 12:03pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 12:01pm:
"I'm Brian and so is my wife...." |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 15th, 2015 at 12:31pm
Im out of this discussion anyway, its dumbing me down too much. Ive had my say, carry on.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:38pm ian wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 11:19am:
What's your point Ian? Are you working on a guidebook for appeasing terrorists? They will let us draw funny cartoons of Muhammed, so long as it doesn't cross over into "extremely offensive"? Quote:
Have you looked? What about piss christ? I am sure you can far more equally offensive anti-Christian stuff. You don't hear about it because Christians don't go on murderous rampages over it. You only heard about Piss Christ because of the attempts to censor it. You only heard about Charlie Hebdo because of the Muslims slaughtering people in the name of Islam. You only heard about Salman Rushdie because of the attempts on his life. Same with the Danish cartoons, that dodgy internet video, and all the rest. If you are seriously arguing that people mock more Islam more than other religions you are deluded. Muslims simply kick up more of a fuss, because opposing freedom of speech is part and parcel of Islam. Quote:
Do you think it should be banned Ian? Quote:
I'm sure it will improve now. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Jan 15th, 2015 at 2:40pm Phemanderac wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 12:03pm:
"Brian of Nazareth? Free 'em both!"...... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:17am
Good point, FD, I'd never heard of Charlie Hebdo until 12 people were murdered.
What exactly were the terrorists hoping to achieve? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:33am
They want to scare people into self censorship. It is the pointy end of a broad campaign against freedom of speech, and liberty in general. For example, we also have the OIC (Muslim version of the G20) trying to get the UN to make blasphemy illegal. You get people to give up their rights individually at first, then follow it up with the law, and gradually strip away every right you can think of. Cods, Brian, Gandalf, HB, bb etc are supporting this effort by trying to convince people that self censorship is the appropriate response to these attacks.
There is a fundamental misunderstanding in their logic. They see freedom as a weakness, not a strength. They cannot comprehend how a society functions, and even grows strong, under such a social agreement of tolerance and division. It is the same misunderstanding that has played out over and over again over the last few centuries, and the few times in earlier history where principles of freedom and political inclusiveness have gained a foothold. It is working to some extent. I think it is the reason Hollywood will not tackle Muhammed, despite the ample material there to work with. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:17pm ian wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 11:24am:
[/quote] ooops another one not reading what I am writing.. but that ok... lets see if I can make it real plain for you.. I DONT GIVE A SH1T IF THE CARTOONS ARE PUBLISHED I AM NOT COMPLAINING AT ALL...NO I AM NOT..DID I FIND THOSE I HAVE SEEN AMUSING.. NO I DIDNT.. DID I FIND THEM INSULTING TO A RELIGIOUS PERSON. YES I DID.. gosh do you think he got that???... GUESS WHAT... A CERTAIN GROUP OF VIOLENT PERSONS...ALSO DIDNT FIND THESE CARTOONS AMUSING... ::) ::) AND GUESS WHAT AGIN.. THEY ALSO FOUND THEM INSULTING... guess what I do not know these other persons... understood........ good.. DID I GET UPSET BY SAID CARTOONS...... NO I DID NOT.......I AM NOT THAT TYPE....WOULD I HAVE MARCHED UP AND DOWN OUTSIDE CHARLIE JEBDO no it would not interest me to do that... ok.. so far are you with me..? good.. HOW EVER OTHER PERSON WHO FELT HUMILIATED BY SAID CARTOONS.....THOUGHT OTHERWISE..THEY DECIDED.. IF YOU DONT STOP PRINTING THEM... THEN I WILL DO IT FOR YOU.. well no need to mention what happened ... is there????... ok.. now my part in all of this..... coward that I am.. I have said and still do....they should have stopped printing the cartoon after the death threats... because I value life and do not think a stupid dumb unamusing but insulting to some cartoon was worth 12 peoples lives... ok I am wrong.. you all think 12 lives were worth sticking it up to a group of madmen....I dont really care what you think....tell me it all been worth it.. now France is almost in lockdown...bomb threats. and now hacking Quote:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:36pm freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:33am:
i guess it would be fun to watch cinemas getting blown up.... ::) another reason to hate and blame the madmen....got nuffink to do with stupid dumb arse people who kick beehives does it??? I love it when some says.. dont do as I do...... DO AS I SAY... its so fitting on here isnt it?... what is wrong with calling someone a M*ron???...yet its ok to call them a coward... is that blasphemy...?? which also means disrespectful... what I am saying is... charlies self censoring would have STOPPED THIS ATTACK.. you liked and prefer the result.. you have made that perfectly clear.. no doubt about you people.. stopping the cartoon..would have insulted you guys... it would have meant the end of civilisation.. ::) ::).. the end of any hope we would all be asked to give up our lunch money next and Hitler would come back and do god only knows what... :D :D :D :D amazing what charlie was capable of really... as they havent silenced the presses I am sure we can look forward to more explosions.. which will keep our "chest beating" folks happy... well it may keep civilisation going for a bit longer as well...;D ;D ;D wouldnt want the to stop that because of a rubbish cartoon would we? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 17th, 2015 at 2:00am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:17am:
Advertising for Charli Hebdo? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jan 17th, 2015 at 2:09am cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:17pm:
It's not always the case of not reading what you write cods. Often its very hard to decifer what exactly you are trying to say in your posts. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Richdude on Jan 17th, 2015 at 5:32am
Thanks Annie - excellent article.
Although he did not mention the "suicide" of the French commissioner who was working on the case. He allegedly killed himself whilst working on his report. The Western press does not mention this. I guess in case it interferes with the official narrative. So much for upholding free speech. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2015 at 5:43am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 2:09am:
sorry what are you having trouble with?.. I say the cartoons should have been withdrawn to save all those lives... I do not see this as FREEDOM OF THE PRESS...it is a dumb ass rude insulting cartoon... to Taunt a group of angry men who will KILL... just like the angry bees... why torment them.??? ::) and was the result worth it.. apparently mine enemies think those 17 lives were worth it.....as I say from the distance bwave.. what so hard to understand about that?.. I realise when they get a bit long winded... but then so do the others did you comment on them???????? not that I have seen... andrei I am not defending what the extremist do or have done....I am just living in the real world... and not a James Bond one.. they say what they mean and they mean what they say... I do not believe the deaths and what is the aftermath was worth the cartoon.......sorry if that offends you. ask me personally about the cartoon... I couldnt careless not my taste at all.. would never buy the mag.......but I am not talking about ME I am talking about madmen who will carry out their threat.. and besides that I dont get any courage or thrill out of tormenting anyone. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2015 at 5:49am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 11:30am:
you do realise thats not the point dont you.... but you would have to admit... the West did bombard the ISIL with AIRSTRIKES.... with the idea of killing people... ::) ::).. after the beheadings....its kind of tit for tat... however.. those killed for the cartoon.. werent armed they never had a chance. lambs to the slaughter.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 17th, 2015 at 6:25am cods wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 5:49am:
They put too much faith in their armed guards. There's a lesson to be learnt. If you want to stir the pot, make sure your backside is well and truly covered. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2015 at 6:51am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 6:25am:
pansi what armed guard has a chance against AK 47..its the same with car bombs....land mines.. WMD..all weapons of evil... and the extremists have them all..they take no prisoners....we are I believe lucky.... if thats the right word... that these groups of evil all seem splintered...they sem to hate each other as much as they hate the rest of the world... but it doesnt stop them being more dangerous than Ebola... if your neighbour came home from Africa carrying the ebola virus... how would you know???.... you wouldnt until it was maybe too late.. and its the same with these guys.....they dont have two heads to distinguish them from the good guys. there must be threats now to the Jews in Britain as they are now upping security for that group.... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:01am Quote:
And you don't give a poo about freedom of speech either, do you cods? You would drop it and run away of a Muslim looked at you sideways. Quote:
Fair enough. Quote:
And then what Cods? This is the question you never answer. How far would you go in appeasing the terrorists? Quote:
Earth to cods. We think freedom of speech is worth defending. Do you receive cods? Anyone home? Quote:
Cods, your spineless pandering to terrorists would not get rid of this fear. It would make it worse. Quote:
So you understanding really is that limited cods? You honestly think that would be the end of it? They would not have moved on to the next thing that is upsetting them about France? How far would you go to appease these terrorists cods? Do you understand the question, or do I need to dumb it down for you? Quote:
Yes cods, it is just like that. You understand the reality, but you still insist on replacing it with your own idiotic version where appeasing terrorists has no consequences. Quote:
You are the worst kind of appeaser. Quote:
What do you see as freedom of the pres cods? Give us your version. Or just ignore this and continue posting random drivel. It's not like this is the first time I have asked. Quote:
The others posts are nowhere near as stupid as yours cods. Quote:
Cods you are appeasing them and doing their bidding for them. Nice one. Quote:
You are living in a world you invented where the conequences of appeasing terrorists are just a joke. Quote:
How about appeasing terrorists? You do that constantly now. You must get something out of it. Quote:
Good point cods. They have scary weapons. Lets abandon our civilisation to them, because standing up for something makes cods scared. And besides, she doesn't even know what to stand up for. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:02am
Cods how far would you go to appease terrorists? What would you give up? Your rights? Your children? Your dignity? Oops, too late.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Phemanderac on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:10am freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:02am:
It is a great irony that terrorists are "appeased" and Muslim's have "apologists" yet the West simply justifies itself and ignores its own atrocities throughout history.... No apologists needed. As was pointed out elsewhere, and quite eloquently by Karnal - the term "freedom" actually needs to be defined... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:18am
Perhaps you should start a new thread on that and see how many people agree with you.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:26am freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:02am:
you have asked me that on the other thread gawd your boring I did answer you though go take a peek.. btw I have asked you a question as well not that I am sure you plan on answering it./them so I have given up have I.. really hahahahah.. what silly man you are.. your talking about dignity... where will yours be when the madmen pounce again...and kill more all because the likes of you claim.. it is better for SOMEONE as long as it isnt me.. to be sacrificed for so called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. btw why cant I call you a moron... the M word... I want my FREEDOM OF SPEECH On here as well can you tell my why YOU only believe in FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON YOUR TERMS>. which means IT ISNT FOR EVERYONE>. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:32am Phemanderac wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:10am:
oh you have got that so wrong......FREEDOM is what who ever is on control HAS>> they have the FREEDOM to make the RULES... and the FREEDOM to enact them.. JUST LIKE FD does the dictator of ozpol... he is lord and master.. he can ban you for life i.. almost the same as killing.. just no blood... he also controls your language that you wish to use.. but all in the name of FREEDOM that he will fight you to the death for... ::) ::) ::) if he doesnt like the topic you have chosen... snap on goes the lock.... dont even look sideways on FEEDBACK... but its all in the name of FREEDOM .. fds kind of FREEDOM.... he has obviously two kinds one for him and one for the rest of us.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:36am Quote:
I have asked you dozens of times. You have not answered. The closest you have come is to ask whether giving in to terrorists is appeasement. Quote:
So no more of your mindless drivel about appeasing terrorists and this has nothing to do with freedom of speech? Quote:
Cods it is your approach that would encourage them to kill more. I realise you cannot comprehend this but it is still true. Perhaps if you engaged in debate rather than repeating the same mindless drivel over and over again you might get closer to understanding. Quote:
Yes cods you have asked this many times. The difference is that I have answered many times also. I have even offered to dumb the answer down for you. Nothing works. You are like a scratched record. Nothing gets through to you. Quote:
Oh dear, you really do believe this nonsense don't you cods? French Muslims slaughter cartoonists. You cannot compel me to publish whatever you want on my website. No difference according to cods. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:57am
I am going out this afternoon so will have to wait for my reply.. perhaps whilst you waiting you will answer the few questions I have asked you over and over,,
WHY CANT I CALL YOU THE M WORD. MORON freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:36am:
so sooth me tell me again.. I missed them all...and this one doesnt quite do it for me... why cant I be FREE TO CALL YOU A MORON?. why is the world a b etter place when we insult god???..gods of any kind I will make it easier for you... when the world MUST be a b etter place without the M word in it.. but we can insult muhammad... what now my friend... more deaths???.. you will justify that because its FREEDOM... of what exactly?.... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:16pm Quote:
Because of the swear word filter cods. Got any more stupid questions? Quote:
You are free to do so cods. You just don't know what that means. Not for lack of explanation on my part of course. How about next time instead of asking the same stupid question, you just quote one of the many answers I have already given you. Quote:
The worlds is a better place when we are free to do so. Do you have some kind of religious objection to this, or are you just keen to appease terrorists? How far would you go to appease terrorists cods, and why can you not answer this question? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by bb on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:02pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by bb on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:06pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:17pm
]why is the world a b etter place when we insult god???[/quote]
The worlds is a better place when we are free to do so. Do you have some kind of religious objection to this, or are you just keen to appease terrorists? nah my aim it to appease you you are GOD around here.. in my FREEDOM OF SPEECH rules that means i can call you a twat a twit an idiot even a maroon if I want too.. :P :P.. because its my right its what you are fighting for... isnt that what you said.???... your a stupid dumb god.. but I admit you hold the GUN.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 18th, 2015 at 7:48pm
No-one is forcing you to use this forum cods. If you have a problem with how I run it, you know what to do. Exercise your freedom.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:34pm
.. down here at The Grapplerdome, it's the match-up of the century between freediver and cods.... the Grudge Match to end all Grudge Matches....(ad break)
the above commentary brought to you by the non-aligned Grappler, and no side is taken or implied in this commentary.... It's a right.. a left.. a right..... a left... anything could be the winning punch here.... there are no holds barred in the Match of The Century.... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:37pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:38pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:40pm
Cartoons that vilify religious minorities are all just journalistic expressions of free speech?
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41pm freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 7:48pm:
Yeas cods, feel free to enjoy this Forum.....but only to the extent freediver allows in his curtailment of your apparent right to free expression, using words. There are things you can say out there in the World but if you do not like the freediver limits of what you may say in the World of freediver, please appease him, and move on. Do not challenge him. Just move on. Get it? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:01pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:01pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:03pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:11pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:28pm
Criticising excesses of Israel - the same as criticising excesses of Nazi Germnay or some Islamites - is just that it is... hardly a criticism or a venue for vilification of the entire social group.
I have both German and Jewish ancestry - Germans opposed Nazism and Jews oppose certain acts of Israel right now.... and many Muslims are not happy with acts of a minority... It's called the will of the people.... even when crushed beneath some ideology that thinks it knows all... When the world becomes black and white - let me know. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:30pm Julius Abbott wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:01pm:
You are as mad as any extremist..... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Aussie on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:36pm
I see nothing in that stuff attacking the fundamantal concept of let's say....Christianity.
Has anyone ever tried to walk into the Vatican with a large cartoon depicting a wild story of God impregnating a random virgin called Mary who just happened to be married to some carpenter called Joseph, God did the deed while Jo was distracted somehow, and the outcome was some bloke called Jesus Christ? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by brumbie on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:52pm Aussie wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:36pm:
Ermm..well there was a rather famous movie called The Life of Brian Aussie ;) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 19th, 2015 at 6:26am freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 7:48pm:
thank you fd... I see its alright for you to insult my intelligence but if one gives you a serve thats where FREEDOM OF SPEECH ends... ::) ::) I guess you lost the argument ;D ;D you see likewise... if you have a problem with my posts,... you too know what to do... exercise your FREEDOM and dont read them now that is so easy........watch the ID...and dont open it.. you ask me a question.. I will answer it in the only way I know how.. so how about appeasing me and not asking stupid questions over and over... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 19th, 2015 at 6:38am Aussie wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:36pm:
the point is....and Pope Francis agrees with me... any form of ridicule is low and cowardly....well he didnt quite say that...but he did say it was out of line... its a form of racism...Jews and Judaism /Muslims and Islam...Buddhism and Buddhists.. they are also a way of life... why anyone thinks ridicule if funny I will never understand.... ask yourself........... how much ridicule can you take yourself... doesnt it get you down just a little if it is relentless and day after day????.... btw aussie... the Jews do not threaten DEATH.. neither does the Catholic Church.. I think that may be why the "jokes" continue... Islam do not like their messiah being ridiculed.... why that has anything to do with freedom of speech also escapes me. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 19th, 2015 at 6:42am Aussie wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41pm:
I do get it... he asks a question but he will only accept his own version of an answer... dont like the answer.... dont ask the questions.... :D :D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:50pm Quote:
It's called the Life of Brian Aussie. Do you remember the bloodbath that followed? No? Quote:
Usually I do cods. In this case I choose to point out their stupidity. Quote:
Let's start with, how far would you go to appease terrorists? Quote:
Why is it stupid cods? How far would you go to appease terrorists? Quote:
Oh look, cods posted something incredibly stupid. Quote:
Cods how do you feel about pansi happily ridiculing the Jews and Catholics, but not the Muslims? Which of you two has the more principled stance on the matter? Quote:
WTF does that mean cods? Quote:
Yes cods, we realise you still have absolutely no idea what you are ranting about. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:56am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 10:30pm:
So are you saying it is not a good idea to have cartoons that could cause hatred published in magazines? Personally, I am against the more extreme cartoons such as his being published: But, I think that a comparison can be made with some of the cartoons being published about Muslims. Why is acceptable to vilify one religion, and not another? France has made a big mistake. Supporting the publishing of these cartoons is the biggest recruitment tool that groups like IS and al-Qaeda could ever hope for. Francois Hollande and Charlie Hebdo are helping the IS cause indirectly. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:58am Quote:
You have posted that one a few times already. Is this how you demonstrate your opposition to something being published? Quote:
So we should abandon freedom of speech because it makes Muslims angry? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:46pm freediver wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:58am:
So we should abandon freedom of speech because it makes Muslims angry?[/quote] Should we ban holocaust denial because it angers Jews? Actually, holocaust denial is banned in most European countries. Are you outraged about that or are you hypocrite? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:56pm
fd thought I would remind you to get your armour out of hock...the police are on high alert.....TERROR ALERT..
right up your street... I bet these nasty cartoon haters are here to take their revenge for you laughing at those cartoons.. whew I am so glad you and gizmo and quantum and longy can fight the good fight side by side as one!!! as they say....I am sure you will do a massive job Protecting our Police force from the worst... go boys.. will I start knitting socks?????>..or maybe getting their walking frames oiled and greased...... ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:00pm freediver wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:58am:
So we should abandon freedom of speech because it makes Muslims angry?[/quote] well maybe because they kill when they say they will but that wont stop our very own bwave leader..... I am so proud might even go on facebook... and put ozpol out there.. so everyone can get their FREEDOM OF SPEECH flags out and wave you as you march to face the baddies.. head on... who will you leave the empire too fd???...just so we can start getting the WELCOME FLAG ready.... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 20th, 2015 at 7:59pm
Quiz; How many different ways can Codsy write ' they desrved it' without actually writing 'they deserved it'?
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:20pm Rocketanski wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 7:59pm:
I see the Celebration of Australia Day finally got to you then...dont forget Valentines Day tomorrow.. get that bunting out.. hows the Boats name your ancestors arrived on coming then? the white people that built all those roads and bridges....without giving a second thought to food.. amazing stuff ....I am sure they are in our history books... ::) ::)or even got their names on bridges?????...they deserve it they arrived before Capt Phillips.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Neferti on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:34pm cods wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:20pm:
Huh? Tomorrow is 21 JANUARY 2015 ... unless you are in La La Land and think it is FEBRUARY 14th. ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:39pm Neferti wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:34pm:
you so hell bent on stalking me.. you dont read others do you......still counting the spelling mistakes.. its rocky that has date problems..perhaps if you stopped stalking you might end up knowing what you are talking about.. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:08am
I think this is a bit of a problem for you Cods and might be a reason you spend so much time whinging to mods- you infer something yet you don't have the back bone to say what you really mean. It makes you come across as a bit vague and dithering. I hit the 8 instead of a 7- a typo I've already owned up to. However, you still refuse to answer a pretty blunt question.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Quantum on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 1:03am cods wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:56pm:
Keep kicking the "beehive". Soon there won't be single person on this forum who doesn't know what a bitter loon you are. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 6:40am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:08am:
hummmmmmmm a bit vague you mean like not saying what you are talking about.....mmmmmmmmm and then we get the quantums who think I keep repeating myself...hummmmmmmmmmmm maybe you should chat to each other and leave me out of it.. I KNOW WHEN AUSTRALIA DAY IS..and I know MY ANCESTORS DID NOT ARRIVE IN SYDNEY COVE BEFORE CAPT ARTHUR PHILLIPS... and start our civilisation... ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D what super nova question did 'whitey' want answered???? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D sorry cant help laughing at you.. :D :D |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 6:57am Quantum wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 1:03am:
ho hum this is a bit old.. you must be digging deep to be able to come up with something to appease your hate vitriol.and show everyone how bwave you are standing up to the baddies from your lounge room... and of course bitter cods ::) ::) ::) how you going kicking the angry terrorist cells then??.. are you writing to the newspapers telling them how you would fix these guys??????.... how about messages on their web sites...telling them to come and face you head on.... nothing bitter about me quantum .. its you thats angry and accusing... not me.. ;D ;D ;D ;D how about confronting this guy?...instead of picking on old ladies. ;) http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydney-islamic-state-terrorist-mohamed-elomar-uses-toddler-for-propaganda-and-boasts-of-selling-slave-girls/story-fni0cx12-1227192497854 |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:37am The aim of the game was to instil fear. These guys are scared shytless, that's why they attack you cods, they know no other way.....apart from attacking the Muslim community face to face and they are not about to do that. They are brave attacking anonymous people on the internet but when push comes to shove they are the cowards but they can't live with that label, so they brand the people that don't want to get involved in their petty cartoon war as the cowards. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:44am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:37am:
thats so right school boy bully stuff..... and they lower the threads into slanging matches.. best we dont go down their street.....someone told me he was disappointed in me I asked him why but havent seen his reply..... seems like pouring oil on troubled waters isnt the way to go.....much better to inflame with more petrol keep the war alive and well.. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:11am cods wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:44am:
I think the boys like spilt blood, just not their own. He's disappointed in you because you have a different opinion to him. Sad innit? I say let them have their cartoon war, they'll still be sitting here calling others cowards in ten years time and I wonder how much blood will be spilt between now and then. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:38am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:11am:
we are very comfortable living here arent we??>..far away from most of the nasty....those talking about MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH....as if they actually fought for it themselves....almost hysterical thinking stopping a cartoon will interfere with that..... god what will you give them next.....your lunch money.. ;D ;D a few weeks ago we had a terrible stand off in Martin Place...3 innocent people died.... FOR WHAT??? DID WE EVER FIND OUT?.. well thats how I see the deaths in France over this cartoon..........dying for WHAT?....it has not a thing to do with FREEDOM OF SPEECH... I think it has more to do with BULLYING than FoS to be honest..... and the bullies were dealt with because they wouldnt take a tiny step back... do we like the threats of course we dont do we like the terrorists I dont think so.. how ever they say what they mean and mean what they say... they have proved it over and over...and I for one believe them....it dosnt mean we agree with them....it just means we accept what they say.... personally I dont think it was unreasonable to ask this magazine to stop printing the cartoons.and they were asked in a kind of terrorist way.. why provoke death for a cartoon..... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rocketanski on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 11:21am
Cods, i hope no one in your family gets killed for offending someone. If that were to happen, you would have to mention in the eulogy that they deserved it; i think most genuine hearted people would find that hurtful.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:24pm
Cods would also have to say that everyone saw it coming. There is no such thing as a terrorist attack that cods cannot foresee (after it happens of course).
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Quantum on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:35pm
Look at pansi and cods. Two stupid old bitches that go from thread to thread insulting other members (even in the threads they haven't posted in, such as in this case where I had said nothing in this thread yet still cods felt the need to bring me into it), and when people respond they pretend to be the victim of big bad bullies. They have to be the two most gutless members of this forum. Two old fools who demand respect and show nothing but contempt towards everyone else. I would tell you to go fck yourself but I wouldn't want you to do a hip trying.
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:43pm Rocketanski wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 11:21am:
You mean to say....Cods, i hope no one in your family gets killed for offending someone's religion by constantly publishing very offensive insulting cartoons about their prophet. If that were to happen, you would have to mention in the eulogy that they were silly to keep it up after being warned to stop. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:51pm Quantum wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:35pm:
Oops! longy's lost the plot, he must have heard the bad news about Abbott. Why are we gutless? because we don't want to join your gang of hoons that are pretending to take on Islam (from their laptop) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:57pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:43pm:
Pansi, if Muslims warned you not to come out at night without your burqa on and a male escort, and you defied them and got raped, would you then apologise for offending them with your (lack of) clothes and accept the blame for antagonising a delicate situation? How low would you go to appease terrorists? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 1:27pm freediver wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:57pm:
What about if Muslims surrounded me in Aldi and said they'll chop my head off if I bought the pork chops in my shopping basket? Would I apologise for offending them and put the pork chops back on the shelf? How low would I go to appease these terrorists? What if....what if.....what if...... What if I let Muslims be Muslims and mind my own business. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 2:12pm
I love the way this becomes about personality - I just got kicked off another forum for calling another user an arsehole - well - he is a supercilious arsehole.... poor dear couldn't take his hobby horse being unshoed... and made the mistake of attacking the disadvantaged as 'leaners' who wouldn't provide for their own retirement.....
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 3:04pm freediver wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:24pm:
Quantum wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 12:35pm:
Rocketanski wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 11:21am:
fd I find it amazing how you make your own version of FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. then you dont even try to make the rules work... by ignoring those that bully...and INSULT and abuse.. pne of these perps has told me to take horse medicine..the other has asked if I eat Pal dog food.. tell me FD is this what this forum has come down too.. now the bullies have seen which way their very own leader pushes the titanic...they are thrilled and in fact are getting moire ugly every day... but you turn the other cheek??.. is that because you are losing ground do you think?.. we wouldnt want your FoS threatened... but its ok to threaten me and panis' yes we have noticed... >:( we have also noticed the bullies are afraid of two old "bitches".. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 3:18pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 2:12pm:
fd loves it grap.. at least he doesnt do a thing to stop it... if they only knew I would love to not mention them again...but when they stoop to the bottom of the barrel to offend me I will defend myself.. their opinion doesnt bother me their lies do. does anyone wonder what went through the minds of those who died for principle...ooops.. FoS and in opther ones case civilisation.. ::) ::) imagine if you will sitting in front of your computer drawing pics of Muhammad suddenly the door bursts open and there he is...... dressed head to foot in black. the monster who said he "would"KILL them all here like he promised he would be.if we chose to ignore his threats all they can see are his mad eyes... and the AK-47.. no time to even call out a warning to others...just blood everywhere computers covered in dripping flesh and bone fragments....the last one shot saw his work mates splattered all over the cartoons on the walls..............before he joined them does anyone want to try and think.. what was their last thought in that split second.... for those who think dying for glory is the way to go.. I am sure you would be able to put yourself in that sickening position just for a split second.. one of the artist was late that morning and missed it...I wonder what goes through his head as well.......... was it fate for him or is he living on borrowed time and looking over his shoulder every ten minutes. but I am sure he will tell you it was worth it...FoS I mean.or is that principle I am losing track.? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 3:20pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 1:27pm:
the question surely must be pansi.. when is fd going to stop turning a blind eye to the personal abuse...?? or do you think he is having trouble deciding whos FREEDOM OF SPEECH he is supporting today????? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 23rd, 2015 at 8:01am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 1:27pm:
The problem with that approach is that Islam isn't exactly a 'live and let live' philosophy. It conflicts with many fundamental human rights, such as freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Hence the question - how low would you go to appease the terrorists? If Muslims warned you not to come out at night without your burqa on and a male escort, and you defied them and got raped, would you then apologise for offending them with your (lack of) clothes and accept the blame for antagonising a delicate situation? If you think this is some kind of meaningless rhetorical question, don't kid yourself. It is the reality for many women in the world, and the only reason it is not your reality is because people with principles have stood up for the very human rights you are trying to discard. This is where spineless appeasement leads. It does not end with the cartoons. You have to draw a line somewhere, and I can only hope your willingness to discard freedom of speech comes from the same place as cods ramblings - a complete unwillingness to put any thought into the issue. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 23rd, 2015 at 8:37am A few fanaticals, out of 1.6 million Muslims I'm not a bit worried. About 0.2% are mad, the rest want to live in peace. There's more mad people in my neighbourhood that I would worry about before turning my attention to the so called Islam problem. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 23rd, 2015 at 9:10am
It's a simple question Pansi. Are you going to ignore it forever? How low would you stoop to appease terrorists? Would you wait until after you had lost the right to protest to complain about what they are taking from you?
If Muslims warned you not to come out at night without your burqa on and a male escort, and you defied them and got raped, would you then apologise for offending them with your (lack of) clothes and accept the blame for antagonising a delicate situation? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 27th, 2015 at 10:04am
Mohammed — in pictures
The Koran has no injunction against depicting Mohammed. In fact, within Islam, there’s a rich tradition of painting the Prophet Confused? I would hope so. For that is the end point of all useful discussions about Islam and the beginning of wisdom. http://www.spectator.co.uk/arts/arts-feature/9420792/mohammed-in-pictures/ |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 27th, 2015 at 10:10am
are they ridiculing him soren?...
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by jmjcare on Jan 27th, 2015 at 1:06pm
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 27th, 2015 at 4:41pm freediver wrote on Jan 23rd, 2015 at 9:10am:
Didn't you ask this way back and I answered it. You mustn't have much faith in your own method of attack if you think they'll rape us all for not being chaperoned and not wearing a burqa. What if China gets here first, those crazy Mussies won't stand a chance against the yellow peril. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:16pm cods wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 10:10am:
Well, they are picking their noses behind his back in the second pic.... Did the Danish cartoons ridicule him? How many were killed over these images? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:18pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 4:41pm:
No, you did not answer it. It's a common theme with you, cods and all the other apologists - a complete inability to defend your position. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:46am Soren wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:16pm:
the Danes didnt keep printing when they were asked to stop... as far as I know... CHarlie was warned.... you see someone people take offence its the way they are...and as far as I know its their right to be offended.. if someone called you and Fn Idiot...you could be offended.. the next guy could fall about laughing.... we are not all the same.. but you have a right to be offended and if you landed one on the guy you could say you were provoked into doing it.. because he called you an Fn Idiot..AND YOU DIDNT LIKE IT... we are not all the same I think thats great to be honest.. and its time we respected others.. we dont have to like them or love them.. but we should respect their feelings... and I dont think that should be so hard to do.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:32am freediver wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 9:18pm:
That happens in Muslim countries. The raw meat Imam got his comeuppance for that comment and not a word has been mentioned about the sins of the flesh again. They'll try statements like that just to see how far they can get. That would only happen if my country had such lax security and regulations that allowed Sharia Law to infiltrate and replace our current laws. Any western government that is working for the good of its people will not allow Sharia Law, not now, not ever. I am not afraid of Sharia Law at this point in time, there is absolutely nothing to indicate that its a threat. If it ever gets to the point that it becomes a threat then I know my government is working against its people....time to seek asylum in some other land. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:02pm Quote:
That's what happens when people are too scared to mock Islam. Should we be searching people for Shariah law at the border? |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:34pm cods wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:46am:
Respect those who will kill you, shouting god is great, for what you writer or draw? No, bugger that. And I don't care what religion or other ideology drives them to murder over words or images. That they happen to have a set of beliefs about Mohammed is not a limit In any way on others' right to express THEIR views . Being thin skinned murderous bullies is no argument. They can be as offended as they like. But murdering others will not earn respect, only contempt, mockery, disgust. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:37pm Soren wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 10:04am:
Arent you claiming that all Muslims dance to the same tune on these matters? Good way to argue against your own point , |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 29th, 2015 at 6:10am freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:02pm:
That would be about as successful as the 'war on terror'. I think we should stick to confiscating drinking water at the border, now that's a 100% successful operation. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:04am Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
you have funny ideas about WHAT is worth dying for... how many people die in CHina every year because of their religious beliefs???....I dont hear of you and others on here fighting for their rights to FOS... I take it if your neighbour was yelling abuse at your family and home....day in day out.... you would FIGHT for his right to do so???>... just a Yes or No will do...... do not forget what you call insults may not be what I call insults... so we cannot pick and choose... one hat must fit all. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:08am ian wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:37pm:
soren doesnt seem to understand this is not about painting a pic of muhammad its about INSULTING HIM.. everyone has their own version of an INSULT... you can tell someone to F.off and its like water off a ducks back...someone else might knock your head off... if you keep getting your head busted???... what would you do? ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 29th, 2015 at 9:28am cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:08am:
You talkas if the bottom line was that Muslims cannot be expected to behave in a civilised manner, that they are unable to exercise self-control and will kill you if they find what you draw or write insulting to them and so we have to adjust our lives to this bottom line. If we have to accept that they cannot be expected to curb their violent impulses over cartoons and books - why do we allow them to live among us? We would clearly not accept this sort of barbaric behaviour from members of or own civilisation. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 29th, 2015 at 10:15am Soren wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 9:28am:
WHAT HAS YOU ACCEPTING THEIR BEHAVIOR GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING............... I DONT GET THAT.... THIS ISNT ABOUT YOU MAKING A SACRIFICE FOR GAWDS SAKE....DOES YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH REALLY RELY ON DRAWING OF CARTOONS...???? REALLY?.... ITS THE INSULT THAT CAUSES THE KILLING IN THIS CASE.. YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY NEIGHBOUR QUESTION SOREN..... HERES ANOTHER BIT TO ADD TO IT... HOW WOULD YOU BE IF YOUR NEIGHBOUR PAINTED INSULTS TO YOUR SON/DAUGHTER ON HIS HOUSE EVERY MORNING..... WHAT IF HE SENT MEAN NASTY FLYERS TO THE SCHOOLS AND LETTERBOXED THEM ALL MAKING NASTY FUN OF YOUR CHILDREN?..... WOULD YOU SAY HE CAN EXERCISE HIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH......I HAVE TO SUCK IT UP...EVEN IF IT ISNT MY SENSE OF HUMOUR....??? you really would have to agree he has every right to do what he does if you expect others to suck up what they find insulting.. you could even be driven to kill him if you dont learn to suck it up. ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by freediver on Jan 29th, 2015 at 12:35pm Quote:
You and cods have been arguing we should self censor because of the reaction from Muslims. Are you suggesting that this is not fear, but respect for their violent intolerance? Quote:
Only in the mid of the censor. Everyone has a different sense of humour. What some find funny, others find deeply offensive. Quote:
So what was all that crap about "That would only happen if my country had such lax security and regulations that allowed Sharia Law to infiltrate and replace our current laws." Can you explain this? Quote:
Muslims want you to adopt their version, and threaten you with death to encourage you. And you want to appease them. Quote:
Yes cods, that is what freedom of speech means. I am genuinely surprised you still do not understand this basic principle. If a religious or historical figure is placed beyond mockery or criticism, that is the end of free speech. It is all downhill from there - hence your unwillingness to suggest what the likely consequences of your spineless appeasement would be. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 29th, 2015 at 2:16pm
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Who's scared to mock Islam? You and cods have been arguing we should self censor because of the reaction from Muslims. Are you suggesting that this is not fear, but respect for their violent intolerance? I've been saying everyone to their own, if you want to publish insulting cartoons of Muhammad, go for it, free will, free speech. Just leave me out of it, I've got better things to do. Sharia Law doesn't come in via the airport, it's in the mind of the beholder, whoever, wherever they are. Sharia Law won't stand up in our courts because we have our own laws, unless we, as a country or government legislate for it and I don't see that happening. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by bogarde73 on Jan 29th, 2015 at 2:21pm
Are you aware Facebook has agreed not to publish anything in Turkey that is deemed offensive to the "profit", including Charlie Hebdo cartoons.
Good luck with that one. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 29th, 2015 at 3:23pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
FD will be right over fighting to the death for their freedom to read insulting cartoons... he will die for freedom to draw insulting cartoons... \hes scared of no one.. you realise how lucky we are in this country to have people like fd fighting for us dont you??>.. well at least try to remember that when humourless terrorist turn their attention to Oz wont you.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 29th, 2015 at 4:02pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
That's probably because Turkey is predominantly Muslim and Facebook put dollars before freedom of speech. I can't imagine many Turks wanting to have a giggle at an insulting Muslim cartoon. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 29th, 2015 at 4:20pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 4:02pm:
do you find them funny pansi????... I thought you were one of the grown ups.. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 29th, 2015 at 4:38pm cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 4:20pm:
Not really and no one in Turkey would either. They're meant to anger the Muslims not make them laugh. I should have said the Turks won't want to see them , not have a giggle. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:50pm cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 4:20pm:
I don't think any of the Danish or Charlie cartoons were insulting. They were at worst mocking and disrespectful. The really insulting cartoons were concocted by Mulsim clerics who circulated them in Muslim countries about 6 months after the Danish cartoons. None of these are insulting, only disrespectful and critical. Mostly neither The response to the Danish and Charlie cartoons is "the usual mixture of petulance and confected outrage". The murders are despicable as is any argument for accommodating the sentiment that motivated the murders. Utterly despicable. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 29th, 2015 at 11:18pm cods wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 10:15am:
This is incoherent. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 29th, 2015 at 11:20pm Soren wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 8:50pm:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 30th, 2015 at 8:19am ian wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 11:20pm:
I think soren is as blind as a bat to be honest I though fd was thick... ::) ::) they seem to think its all about what THEY THINK.... they find it impossible to even pretend to see this from a fanatical Muslims point of view... its all about how they see it.. soren didnt find the cartoons offensive..... so why do they????... hilarious if 17 people were not dead because of these cartoons.. everything people like this see.. is from their own blinkered side of things... I equate this cartoon with BULLYING.....but they see it as the extremists doing the BULLYING... ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:17pm cods wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 8:19am:
They MURDERED 17 people!!! Not drew cartoons of them but MURDERED them. And you have the persistent idiocy to call the cartoonists the bullies?!? You are completely out of your mind, unmoored from any sense of perspective. dusseaux.jpeg (78 KB | 45
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:37pm ian wrote on Jan 29th, 2015 at 11:20pm:
What difference does that make? Feeling mocked or insulted is no reason to murder anyone. I am not a Muslim - therefore I do not share their pieties. Should I? DO we all have to now respect Islam, even as its followers murder their way across the globe? Why does Islam deserve respect and not, say, Scientology or Nazism or cannibalism? What is it about Islam - other than that its followers will resort to violence quicker than you can say allahu akhbar - that makes it more respectable than any other creed or ideology or belief? Message to the mocked and insulted. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:11pm Soren wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:46pm ian wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:11pm:
I am not going to kill anyone, no matter what you say about my beliefs. I am civilised and have both self-control and a sense of proportion. Can't say the same about those murdering twats. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:01pm Soren wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:46pm:
Maybe at last, we agree on something. Who are the murdering twats? Islamic terrorists or all followers of Islam? If you say the terrorists, I fully agree with you. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by ian on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:34pm Soren wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 1:46pm:
true, but your implication is that you are entitled to state what a Muslim does or does not find offensive, I find that a curious position. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 30th, 2015 at 4:54pm Soren wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 12:17pm:
YOU PRETENDED NOT TO UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION IN PREV POST.. SO LETS GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...make it simple.. your loved one..... has a person on facebook.... that is no a nice person. doesnt like your loved one at all.... drawings of your loved one in compromising positions claiming he or she was naked and smoking pot.... crude drawings but no mistaking who the person is name also supplied.... this was going on day in day out.. your loved one is beside themselves.. they are begging it to stop..'please uncle soren kill them'... but uncle soren says... nope cant do anything about that.. it is only silly drawings take no notice turn the other cheek.. but they are all laughing at me I cant stand it anymore 'says your loved one'... tough you will have to learn to laugh as well.. like I am doing. I find them funny...why dont you??..says uncle soren NOT BULLYING YOU SAY?.... thats ok soren btw I will try not to call you names.. [ which is another form of bullying but you wouldnt understand that either]. ridiculing someone in public is BULLYING. I believe your loved one deserved support and the bullying should have been stopped....because it could have been stopped... however to each his own. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 30th, 2015 at 5:07pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:01pm:
pansi this isnt ABOUT RIGHT TO MURDER... they are twisting it around to suit their agenda... no one has the RIGHT TO MURDER.... this is about cartoon drawing that could have been stopped at any time.....these cartoons caused PAIN.. so much PAIN to fanatics that they threatened to KILL>.those who were causing them PAIN.. there is no right or wrong... its what FANATICS do... its what FANATICS are capable of doing... we have witnessed decapitation on videos... we know very well what these FANATICS will do....it isnt as if we didnt.. this is the whole point.... yet stupid people on here think these FANATICS should think like they do.....hahahahahahahaha..laugh turn the other cheek...its a cartoon for gods sakes..we wonderful people laugh at the ones that mock our god....move on FANATICS move on.. some one give me strength... you know they are losing it when they start calling you names.. have you notice each and everyone of those that cannot see this from anyone elses point of view other than their own.......have all gone down the name calling road... ::) ::) ::) ::) they murdered 17 people they sure did.... because of a cartoon...... look at those school killing in AMerica each and everyone done by a FANATIC.... .even in hindsight no one could really have stopped those murders..because they didnt come down to ONE THING.... in the CHarlie murders..... it did come down to ONE THING...... had they stopped posting the cartoons.. and still the murders went ahead.. I would not be thinking the same way.... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 30th, 2015 at 7:17pm
That's right what you said cods.
Soren is comparing the crazy fanatics to normal, law abiding citizens, you can't do that, they're crazy, they're capable of anything. They're not your everyday Muslim who just wants to get on with life, who just wants to be left alone to pray to Allah, to raise their family in safety (like we all do). These are a tiny minority of the 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. Why would you want to stir them on? It doesn't make sense to me. They're madmen, they have no fear. If push comes to shove we might have to fight them, but not over a bloody cartoon, surely. Let it be a little more serious than that. |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:37am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 7:17pm:
sadly for us.. some on here DO THINK the CARTOON IS WORTH FIGHTING for.. its the principle you see???... ::) ::) we westerners have the right to insult someone elses god over and over again....to our hearts content... they of course have no right whatever to kill us for our rights.....I think thats how it works.... 8-) you know the old saying give them an inch and they will want a yard... the fact that we have never given an inch on this absurdity...[cartoon]... doesnt matter..... the fact they have never been given anything to test whether they will ask for more....again doesnt matter.... ::) ::) the cartoon is still worth fighting for.. oops Denmark as far as I know never printed the cartoons again after being warned... and to my knowledge they have never been asked for more??? maybe someone else knows???????.... |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Rhino on Jan 31st, 2015 at 1:16pm |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by Soren on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:05pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 30th, 2015 at 2:01pm:
What's the difference? I mean what is the difference between their beliefs? They all believe the same thing. The peaceful ones are supporting the violent ones TACITLY. By not making it impossible to be violent in the name of Islam, or at least making it totally unacceptable. But they are not doing that. They are standing up for the Charlie murderers by accusing Charlie of being deaf to warnings. F Vck them all. Charb was right - it is better to offend Islam than to cave in to it. Once you give in to Islam, you are F Vcked, good and proper. dusseaux_001.jpeg (78 KB | 51
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by stryder on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:30pm Soren wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:05pm:
Here are the facts You are not getting hatred and anti western sentiment in volumes from the buddists, the hindus, the sikhs, but we are getting that violent religous behavior from radicalised muslims, |
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Title: Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Post by cods on Feb 1st, 2015 at 7:27am stryder wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 8:30pm:
but they still spread violence....because it isnt ANTI WESTERN.....doesnt mean it isnt happening... http://time.com/3090990/how-an-extremist-buddhist-network-is-sowing-hatred-across-asia/ That didn’t help her on June 15, though, when a radical Buddhist mob ransacked her home in Dharga Town, a thriving trading hub in southwest Sri Lanka. The 68-year-old Muslim was left “penniless, homeless and heartbroken,” she says. “I thought I would die. I was so afraid.” http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_violence.asp it isnt all ABOUT US! is fighting violence with violence the answer??? |
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