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Title: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:11pm
A new Galaxy Poll has revealed surging support for Queensland Premier Campbell Newman's LNP Government after the first week of the election campaign.
The poll in today's Courier Mail newspaper shows a 4 per cent jump in support for the Liberal National Party (LNP). However, with the LNP and Labor locked at 52 to 48 per cent, two-party preferred, the election could still deliver a hung parliament. On the question of who would make the better premier, the poll registered 45 per cent support for Mr Newman, an increase of 3 per cent from August last year, while Labor leader Annastacia Palaszczuk polled at 40 per cent, a fall of 1 per cent. Of those polled, 41 per cent said they were satisfied with Mr Newman's performance as Premier, compared with 36 per cent in August. There was 39 per cent support for Ms Palaszczuk's performance as Opposition Leader, which remained static. Primary support for The Greens was at 8 per cent. The Palmer United Party's (PUP) popularity continued to fall, with its 3 per cent vote matching Katter's Australian Party (KAP). The latest Newspoll in today's Weekend Australian also shows the LNP improving its position, on 53 per cent to Labor's 47 per cent, two-party preferred. Despite the improved support, Ms Palaszczuk is closing the gap as preferred premier on 38 per cent to Mr Newman's 41, up from 35 per cent. The dissatisfaction rating for Mr Newman sits at 51 per cent, while Ms Palaszczuk's rose four points to 38 per cent. The Newspoll shows Greens have 7 per cent of the primary vote with PUP and KAP both on 1 per cent. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-10/surge-in-support-for-campbell-newman-poll-shows/6010140 TAKE A LOOK at PUP now on 1 percent. THey are outpolled by Family First. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:31pm
Rouge poll :p
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:33pm Its time wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:31pm:
Its actually TWO POLLS. But perhaps the best news is the destruction of PUP. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Resolute on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:34pm
Hopefully we won't have to suffer another Anna Bligh.
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:42pm Resolute wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
not even gonna get close. And best of all QLDers wont have to suffer any PUP loons either. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:42pm
Are the Greens at 4% yet Longy?
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by bogarde73 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 1:12pm
I think he meant rogue poll, but as pointed out, there were two accepted polls.
Not surprising. The left just can't come to terms with the tragedy that Rudd & Gillard inflicted on their position. Anthony Green doesn't show his hand at such an early stage for no reason. Newman will win and rock Labor back on its heels. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:18pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:42pm:
not sure quite what your point was meant to be but the good news is that PUP is finished in QLD before it even got started. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Dnarever on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:29pm Resolute wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Much worse - you could suffer another Newman term. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:30pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:18pm:
Short memory Longy? You mean you don't remember confidently predicting that the drop in the Greens vote at the 2013 election was just the beginning for the Greens, and that by 2016 they would be at 4%? So hows that progressing? Has the Green vote continued to steadily drop since last year as you predicted, or has it steadily and consistently gone the other way? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:41pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
the green vote has dropped in QLD from 7.5% to 7%. Although keep in mind that polls routinely give greens 2% more in polls than they do in elections so my prediction of 4% is only off by a small margin. Only you could call a smaller drop than predicted, 'a victory'. In the meantime, PUP has virtually died. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:56pm
I see, so a drop from 7.5% to 7% means that a drop down to 4% is just round the corner. ;D
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:59pm
and by the way Longy, the QLD Green vote in the 2013 election was 6.2% not 7.5 % - so it has actually gone up - along with the rest of Australia.
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 3:23pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 2:59pm:
not according to the electoral commission. and the greens were polling around 8-10% preceding the election. their current 7% polls will probably end up around 5% on election day. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:22pm
I don't know where the hell you got that table from longy, but you are wrong.
Here's what the AEC actually said http://results.aec.gov.au/17496/Website/HouseStateFirstPrefsByParty-17496-QLD.htm - Greens 6.22% first preferences in QLD Greens have gone up uniformly across the nation since the 2013 election. I'm looking forward to your 4% prediction being ridiculed for the joke that it is next year. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:23pm
lol - just noticed your table is from the 2012 state election.
Evidence fail longy ;D |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:28pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:22pm:
the difference is that I am quoting the 2012 election and you are quoting the 2013 federal election. But the figures remain true that the green vote has dropped. only the actual election results in a few weeks can confirm which of us is right. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:47pm
umm longy, the federal green vote has increased - everywhere.
The state green vote has, as far as I know, increased - everywhere. Now you start a thread giving the latest QLD state poll - showing the greens (wait for it...) increasing their vote - from 7.5 in 2012 to 8% now - you did notice that greens are now on 8% didn't you longy? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:52pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:23pm:
imagine using state results in a discussion about state elections?? OF COURSE IS USED THW 2012 RESULTS |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:53pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:47pm:
Newspoll has greens at 7% how about we wait until the actual election result hmmm??? and you really DO need to remember the tendency for Greens to poll around 2% higher than they end up getting in elections. It is a well-known and repeated phenomena which you will no doubt refute. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:28pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 4:53pm:
You really are hillarious longy - we've recently had two elections, both of which the left was severely on the nose. In both elections the Green vote didn't go below 6%. Now when the tables have completely turned - where the LNP is on the nose and set to face a slaughter, and when the Green vote everywhere has been on the up and up - you would have us believe the Greens are on course for a far lower vote than 6%. You live in a fantasy world longy. Greens vote will either hold steady or slightly increase this election, and in the 2016 poll they will significantly increase their dissapointing 8% nationally. And I will be so looking forward to ridiculing your 4% prediction when that happens. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:37pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:28pm:
the only dope talking about the Green vote is you. this is a thread about the QLD STATE ELECTION and how the LNP are going to win it easily. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:44pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:37pm:
Do you take no notice of your own links.....at all. I quote this from it: Quote:
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Bam on Jan 10th, 2015 at 8:14pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:11pm:
What were you saying a few days ago? This? longweekend58 wrote on Jan 6th, 2015 at 11:27am:
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Bam on Jan 10th, 2015 at 8:26pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:28pm:
The Greens polled 7.53% at the last election. At the election before that they polled 8.37%. Parties on the left got hammered at the last election and this election will see some statistical regression to the mean. I expect the Greens vote to increase modestly at this election, with primary votes in the range 8.0% to 8.5%. It all depends on how well they run their campaign. I do not expect the Greens to win any seats though. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Bam on Jan 10th, 2015 at 9:03pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:37pm:
Comedy? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:05pm Aussie wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 5:44pm:
I rejected it as being a rather stupid statement since hung parliaments are generated very very rarely and always by 50/50 margins. Even howard who had a 50.2/49.8 had a comfortable working majority. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:05pm Bam wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 8:14pm:
on what planet is the 955th newspoll in QLD a 'single data point'? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:06pm Bam wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 8:26pm:
that is a reasonable guess although being QLD I expect the Greens to show tenths of a percentage improvement at best. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:06pm
Gee.....I wonder if this has any relevance in Queensland?
Link. Two party preferred....ALP ahead by 8.5%. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Bam on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:18pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:05pm:
On what planet has Newspoll released 955 Queensland state election polls? Looks like another bogus longy statistic. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by ian on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:20pm Bam wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:18pm:
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:39pm Bam wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 11:18pm:
just imagine if Bam understood sarcasm. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:51pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:39pm:
just imagine if you understood English :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 17th, 2015 at 7:27am John Smith wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:51pm:
talk about the pot calling the kettle black! |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 17th, 2015 at 8:49am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 7:27am:
no, this thread is about the QLD election, if you want to talk about pots and kettles, start another thread. :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Bam on Jan 17th, 2015 at 9:50am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:39pm:
What, like this whole thread? You're claiming a "surge" when it suits your argument and denounce single data points when it doesn't. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:14pm Bam wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 9:50am:
going from 50/50 to 52/48 is a surge in anyones book. Even yours. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Redneck on Jan 17th, 2015 at 4:46pm |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by sir alevine on Jan 17th, 2015 at 4:58pm
Yes but are these rounded figures?
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Redneck on Jan 17th, 2015 at 5:01pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 4:58pm:
Ask Longie, he is the spurt! |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 17th, 2015 at 5:04pm
There is two weeks to go, and that is an eon. Whenever I'm not in taxi land (most there are either PUP or ALP) just about all my mates and neighbours and associates are Lib. Only one out of, say a dozen, will vote LNP this time. They are pissed off with (a) Newmann, and (b) the Sunshine Coast, being Liberal Party heartland, getting ferking nothing, except hollow promises for a decade or two. Newmann has tipped them over the edge.............or maybe my nagging has.
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 17th, 2015 at 5:17pm Bam wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 9:50am:
grow a brain. the 'surge' was supported by multiple polls. I know you cant cope with the thought of the LNP winning easily, but it is happening. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:16pm
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland-state-election-2015/galaxy-poll-shows-labor-in-with-a-good-chance-of-winning-queensland-election/story-fnr8vuu5-1227187634828
The courier mail is not happy. Their boy may not get up. A good indication of when the Federal election gets a bit closer. Hang on. They will get ugly. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Karnal on Jan 18th, 2015 at 12:03am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:06pm:
It’s hardly a guess, Longy, it’s a sound mathematical calculation. We know from your previous posts that when you say things rise by tenths of a percentage point, you actually mean they REMAIN STABLE. Ipso facto, we can conclude that the Greens vote will drop by another 4 percentage points as you predicted, based on your current prediction of tenths of a percentage point improvement at best. Good work, Longy. It’s a complicated formula, but you proved it in the end. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by buzzanddidj on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:49pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 10th, 2015 at 12:11pm:
New poll says Labor set for victory in Queensland January 17, 2015 Labor is set for a shock state election win in Queensland just three years after it was brutalised at the ballot box, a new poll has reportedly revealed. A Galaxy poll showed the were swings of up to 12 per cent against the Campbell Newman government in the state's southeast, News Corp has reported. The poll suggests Labor leader Annastacia Palaszczuk could lead a hung Parliament after the election. Predicted results were not much better for the Newman-led LNP across north Queensland, with Labor picking up extra votes that at the last election had gone to the Katter Australia Party. Mr Newman's seat of Ashgrove has been tipped as one to watch, but the LNP has refused to publicly comment about the possibility of having to find a successor. http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/17/01/03/labor-set-for-shock-queensland-win#rBZpFrD4r0q1VEYI.99 14 January 2015 LNP SEATS SET TO TUMBLE IN QUEENSLAND The Newman Government looks set to lose many of the seats they won in the 2012 landslide election with Labor supporters that rejected the Bligh Government returning to the fold after three years under Campbell Newman. These are the main findings of the latest Galaxy Poll conducted in the seats of Cairns, Barron River, Mulgrave, Greenslopes, Mundingburra, Thuringowa, Townsville and Pumicestone. In all seats polled primary support for Labor has improved substantially since the last election and this has resulted in the following two party preferred swings; Townsville 12.8% Cairns 11.9% Mundingburra 11.2% Greenslopes 10.5% Pumicestone 10.1% Mulgrave 9.9% Barron River 9.5% Thuringowa 8.7% If swings of this magnitude are observed at the ballot box then Labor would retain Mulgrave and win back Townsville, Cairns and Greenslopes. The Townsville seats of Mundingburra and Thuringowa would be close as would Barron River. At this stage of the campaign, it is only in the seat of Pumicestone that the LNP sitting member, Lisa France, remains ahead. galaxy.com.au ANNASTACIA Palaszczuk could become the state’s accidental premier with the LNP losing the battle against a massive protest vote in key seats across Queensland. A Galaxy Poll conducted exclusively for The Courier-Mail has revealed double-digit swings against the Newman Government in the electorates of Pumicestone and Greenslopes. Dozens of LNP seats in Brisbane and the surrounding region would be in peril if the seismic shift against the Government is replicated elsewhere. The result will raise further questions over whether Premier Campbell Newman can secure Ashgrove and the potential for the LNP to win narrowly without him. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland-state-election-2015/galaxy-poll-shows-labor-in-with-a-good-chance-of-winning-queensland-election/story-fnr8vuu5-1227187634828 |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:51pm
i just love how Newscorp labels her an accidental premier ... nothing accidental about it, Newman a looser and people want him out
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:56pm John Smith wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:51pm:
There is no doubt about that.....now, as of today. But still, there is an eon before the fat lady performs and there will be a massive TV campaign to come. Libs will outspend Labor by plenty. I've seen the PUP TV campaign and it is very attractive. Labor is sending the hat around social media as I type seeking donations to fund TV ads. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by life_goes_on on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:56pm
I really doubt that poll.
Labor will probably win an extra 25 seats. The main show is still Newman's seat. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:59pm Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:56pm:
fat lady's not singing, and I've always predicted that libs would win QLD ... my comment was about Newscorp trying to make her sound like she doesn't deserve it ... if she pulls off a miracle win, she deserves to be premier, accidental premier my arse |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 19th, 2015 at 6:06pm John Smith wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
Well....she is being careful not to put a foot wrong. But, as is always the case, she will not win......Newmann will lose if there is a change of Government. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by buzzanddidj on Jan 19th, 2015 at 6:45pm Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:56pm:
I don't ... but I always remember it is a result based on "If an election were held TODAY" Voting intent - TODAY - is based SO MUCH MORE on the past 24 hour news cycle, than ever BEFORE This result could EASILY swing back the other way - 24 hours later |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Bam on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:30pm Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:56pm:
PUP are also spending up on alternative internet media. I've seen a couple of Queensland election ads on Youtube, all of them PUP. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:37pm Bam wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:30pm:
I wonder who Palmer stole money from THIS TIME for the campaign? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Bam on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:02pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:14pm:
What a load of rubbish. That is not a surge. That small movement is less than the margin of error. If you knew anything at all about statistics you would know that. buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:49pm:
Was this a surge too? ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:13pm Bam wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:02pm:
we shall see, I guess. Id hate to be a politician in Australia at the moment. I don't think it is possible to keep voters happy. They all want the boom and the endless rivers of welfare back again. And new govts have about 6months to do it. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:17pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
No. All I/they want is no bullsh*t. No promises made to win an election, and then broken before the seats are warm. Simple. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by gandalf on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:12am
Agreed with Aussie.
The Australian public is sending a message loud and clear - stop the bullshit and stop taking us for granted. Newman came into government no doubt assuming that he was safe for at least two terms. So he went about his first term agenda thinking he didn't have to worry at all about the polls. He realised - quite possibly too late - that he was dead wrong. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 20th, 2015 at 7:32am
Australian voters only want good news and promises of more goodies. Try going to the election with a promise of a difficult economic reform or a new tax. Howard discovered that with the GST where he started with a massive majority and lost almost all of it. Gillard learned and so simply lied to get her reforms through. Politicians of both stripes have learned via the 1993 election that honesty and transparency during election campaigns will be punished. Since then, every government has broken multiple promises simply because it is the only way to get anything done.
Voters are greedy and stupid. They will never vote for a party with a reform agenda, only one promising more dollars. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by sir alevine on Jan 20th, 2015 at 7:35am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 7:32am:
is that why all Newman is promising QLD is $100 for water bills, $100 for licenses, and that's about it? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:21am
No, voters don’t want to be lied to and treated like fools. That is why Newman and Abbott are in trouble.
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:41am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 7:32am:
no, what they want is for a politician to keep his word. If you claim no cuts to health, don't cut health .. if your claim is no changes to education, don't change education ... stop taking the electorate for fools |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:00am John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:41am:
and before long politicians will make lots of promises, keep them all and the deficit will be $250B/yr and climbing and the Debt stratospheric. What you propose is exactly the Greek situation where decade after decade gave Greeks all they wanted like ages pensions at 55, optional payment of taxes and massive welfare. What happens when the country needs major economic reform to survive? How can a party promise that and ever get elected? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:02am
don't be daft longie ... it's not difficult.. just stop promising things you know you can't or won't deliver. It's really not that hard. It has nothing to do with the debt or Greeks.
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by longweekend58 on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:41am John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:02am:
it has everything to do with it. If promising difficult and unpopular policies makes you unelectable then your choice is what? Break promises or govern irresponsibly. and that applies to both parties. so tell me again how unpopular polices are EVER implemented? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Sir Phoney Liebral on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:54am
If Campbell loses who will be the premier if the LNP win?
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Karnal on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:40am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:41am:
Yes, Longy, but Mr Abbott promised a new era of stable, honest government. Under-promise and over-deliver. Say what you'll do and do what you say. Stable, reliable, predictable, sensible, no nonsense government, the grown-ups back in charge. A government for all Australians, a government you can trust. And thank heavens for that. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by The Heartless Felon on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:48am Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:54am:
The LNP will make a responsible, open and honest decision on the leadership. If Campbell does lose then it gives him an opportunity to go to Canberra at the next federal election. That's where he's most needed... |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by St George of the Puissant HLT on Jan 20th, 2015 at 1:10pm
Oh gooody for the poor Libs! An incompetent lying Premier is what the Libs need most? You sure? they have already got Abbott and Hokey!
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 20th, 2015 at 3:32pm
Yesterday was the first day of voting. The polling booths at the electoral offices opened at 9am and closed at 5pm.
the votes have been counted...............22,000 people voted on day one. Apparently today was a little slower, but still unusually busy for pre election day voting. An official said that if it continues at this rate for the next two weeks, there will hardly be anyone left to vote on the 31st. I wonder why? Is it because it's still the holidays? Is it because people are anxious to get rid of Newman? Incidentally, a lot of Queenslanders are happy to save our assets. The lease of assets could get Newman booted, like it did with Bligh.....too funny if they both fell from the same stupid policy. Even though it's 99 years, people don't want their great grand kids having to buy them back with added costs. How much will the state electricity grid cost in 2114? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:24pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:41am:
and this is why you get stuck with dickheads like Abbott instead of real leaders .... you like being lied to. :D :D Abbott didn't need to promise anything, he still would have won the election. People wanted Rudd/Gillard out. He could have shut up and said his usual 'I'll have a better idea once I've had time to go over the books speil' but he didn't, he chose to lie. To decieve the voters. To treat you like an idiot. The same thing he spent 3 years riding Gillard over and then he went and did it ten times worse. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:30pm Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:54am:
Rumour up here has it they'll try to put John-Paul Langbroek back in the top job ... the guy the public has already rejected twice. no wonder they don't want to announce it beforehand :D :D |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by The Heartless Felon on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:30pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 3:32pm:
Just another thing you don't understand... |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:41pm The Heartless Felon wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:30pm:
Not at all. She is correct. Link. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by buzzanddidj on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:56pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 1:10pm:
Joe Hockey repeats lie that half of people's income goes on taxes Monday 19 January 2015 The treasurer says Australians ‘spend the first six months of the year working for the government with tax rates nearly 50 cents in the dollar’ The treasurer, Joe Hockey, has again lied saying that Australians work six months of the year for the government – a claim that is untrue since the top marginal tax rate of 45 cents in the dollar cuts in only for earnings over $180,000. A spokesman for the treasurer said "Mr Hockey had been speaking in very broad terms” http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jan/19/joe-hockey-repeats-incorrect-claim-that-half-of-peoples-income-goes-on-taxes |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by The Heartless Felon on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:03pm Aussie wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:41pm:
Not at all, she is incorrect. The article refers to added infrastructure... |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:09pm The Heartless Felon wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:03pm:
No Sherlock, Sh*t!!! Do you really reckon that in 99 years, these lessees will not spend one cent in hardware other than maintenance of the existing stuff????? |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:29pm Leasing /selling essential services is a very bad idea and Queenslanders wholeheartedly agree. He asked us. We said NO. He didn't listen. I hope he pays the price. All parties and all independents in my region are against the sale/lease of assets. Every how to vote card is saying "vote LNP last" (except LNP). |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:36pm Aussie wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
from the article Under the South Australian agreement, the lessee can elect to own any infrastructure it spends more than $2 million replacing. If the state wants it back at the end of the agreement, it would have to pay the private company full value for the assets. Treasurer Tim Nicholls, who also couldn't answer the question in November, said Queenslanders didn't need to know all the answers yet, only that the government had a "strong plan" for dealing with its current debt. Every telegraph pole, every sub-station, every street light that is replaced over the 99 year period, all to be paid for at buy back time. People don't know that until you tell them. Put LNP last. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by sir alevine on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:13pm
Let's put it thi way, if qld hasn't learnt about the spots on Campbell Newmans back then they deserve the lying and naracisim to come.
Same with Australia - if we haven't yet learnt bout tony and re elect him then we deserve all the sh1t that will come. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:20pm The Heartless Felon wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:03pm:
nope ... she is correct the lessee can elect to own any infrastructure it spends more than $2 million replacing. with a 99yr lease, that'll apply to just about everything. Or do you think the generators being used today will still be working in 99yrs? sale by stealth |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Neferti on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:41pm
Nobody cares what happens in Queensland.
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:43pm Neferti wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
to be to harsh on yourself neferti ... your not a nobody, no matter what others tell you :D :D |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:50pm
i wonder why Abbott has been ordered to stay away from QLD .... surely Qlders love you Abbott, come on up and help Campbell
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Neferti on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:51pm John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:43pm:
Much appreciated, John. Your = ownership you're = you are Learn the difference. It'll make your day. ;) http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/blog/english-mistakes/your-vs-youre/ |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Karnal on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:59pm Neferti wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:51pm:
Good work, Neferti. That’ll do it. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Karnal on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:00pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Exactly. I blame God. Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:00pm
Campbell took over a cotcase economy.
the left had something like 22,000 govt employees they could not fund. the left put us into a huge debt after Jo. Campbell took rapid decisive necessary actions. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Neferti on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:13pm Karnal wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:59pm:
muchas gracias mi amigo |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by sir alevine on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:26pm Karnal wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:00pm:
I blame asylum seekers. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Dnarever on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:30pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:26pm:
Ditch the witch, axe the tax and stop the city cat. There we go now the conservatives have policies again. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by sir alevine on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:32pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:30pm:
There will be NO carbon tax under a government I lead!! |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Dnarever on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:34pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:00pm:
And then the alarm clock went off. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Dnarever on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:40pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:32pm:
Tony Abbott Quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixn9fFatdcs At least the conservatives are consistent - they all lie. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:55pm Neferti wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:51pm:
thats the best you've got? ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by sir alevine on Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:05pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:40pm:
As longie says, these aren't lies because there was no intent. ;) |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:24am sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:26pm:
I blame bikies. |
Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by John Smith on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:07pm
WHy doesn't Newman want Abbott in Qld during the campaign? Surely they're not ashamed of themselves and their policies are they?
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Title: Re: Surge in QLD LNP support Post by Aussie on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:26pm John Smith wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 1:07pm:
Annastacia Palaszczuk made some comment in her Campaign Launch speech yesterday about which one doesn't want anything to do with the other. It may well be that Abbott does not want to be seen anywhere near Newmann, and no-one could blame him for that! |
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