Oh the lefties trip among themselves when it comes TO CRITICISING CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, and maybe every other religion that wouldnt dare fight back after being slured or insulted by lefties.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, OHH NO NO NO, DONT THEY DARE NOT, You can almost hear a leftie peeeeeing down his pants by the very thought of it.


This week in what happened in Paris and its aftermath JUST SHOWS HOW COWARDLY AND STUPID THE LEFT TRULY ARE.


Funny enough the people who worked at that satirical newspaper, Charlie Hebdo were pro left in there feelings and beliefs, BUT EVEN THE COWARDLY LEFTIES WONT REALLY SUPPORT THEM ALL THE WAY EXCEPT WITH STUPID MEANINGLESS HASHTAG GESTURES.

When you see lefties taking the piss out of Christianity on TV or whatever they always have this on their face like they are big heroes. Funny thing is I've never seen any of them do it to Islam. Even South Park backed out. That's because they are a pack of pussies who can only take on an easy target. That wannabe artist who suspended Christ in a fish tank full of his own piss didn't have the balls to do it to Mo. None of them do. After what happened in France it won't start happening in the future either. Just more Christianity targeting.

It's a curious relationship the Left of the west has with fascist Islam.
They both hate capitalism so much, and especially the USA, that they are natural bedfellows.
They both also hate the philosophy underlying the Enlightenment and western Liberalism that this binds them together in a danse macabre.

Thus we have the sickening spectacle of so many on the Left, especially the Greens but also in certain dark corners of the Labor party, refusing to criticise Islamic barbarity or only grudgingly be drawn into some mealy-mouthed responses. Even more disturbing is that some of their supporters here seem to rejoice in acts of uncivilised extremity by the jihadists.

This is the price we are now paying for allowing the political corruption of our educational institutions.

Hard core lefties dont believe in any religion. So what is this thread about?

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

When you see lefties taking the piss out of Christianity on TV or whatever they always have this on their face like they are big heroes. Funny thing is I've never seen any of them do it to Islam. Even South Park backed out. That's because they are a pack of pussies who can only take on an easy target. That wannabe artist who suspended Christ in a fish tank full of his own piss didn't have the balls to do it to Mo. None of them do. After what happened in France it won't start happening in the future either. Just more Christianity targeting.

Agreed

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:30pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:13pm: When you see lefties taking the piss out of Christianity on TV or whatever they always have this on their face like they are big heroes. Funny thing is I've never seen any of them do it to Islam. Even South Park backed out. That's because they are a pack of pussies who can only take on an easy target. That wannabe artist who suspended Christ in a fish tank full of his own piss didn't have the balls to do it to Mo. None of them do. After what happened in France it won't start happening in the future either. Just more Christianity targeting. Agreed

Thanks mate. :)

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Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

Hard core lefties dont believe in any religion. So what is this thread about?

True, BUT WHY THE BREAKDOWN IN CONVICTION ?, when hard core lefties are brave and so courageous when sluring, criticising or insulting christians, jews and others

BUT PISS WEAK IN DOING THE VERY SAME THING TO ISLAM. ????  :D

____ wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:31pm:

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I don't remember seeing a Mo south park episode. Have any of mates openly knocked Islam? Have you?

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:19pm: Hard core lefties dont believe in any religion. So what is this thread about? True, BUT WHY THE BREAKDOWN IN CONVICTION ?, when hard core lefties are brave and so courageous when sluring, criticising or insulting christian, jews and others BUT PISS WEAK IN DOING THE VERY SAME THING TO ISLAM. ????  :D

How many muslims post here?

Personally, i think they all secretly hate freedom, thats why every socialist/communist state ends up becoming a dictatorship, i also wouldn't be surprise if many lefties are woman bashers, which would explain their love affair with islam.

Pantheon wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:35pm:

Personally, i think they all secretly hate freedom, thats why every socialist/communist state ends up becoming a dictatorship, i also wouldn't be surprise if many lefties are woman bashers, which would explain their love affair with islam.

True, hard core lefties and radical muslims do share a hate of the western world, and maybe a few of these lefties would secretly like to see radical islam damage the western world in any way it can.

But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

Oh the lefties trip among themselves when it comes TO CRITICISING CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, and maybe every other religion that wouldnt dare fight back after being slured or insulted by lefties. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, OHH NO NO NO, DONT THEY DARE NOT, You can almost hear a leftie peeeeeing down his pants by the very thought of it. This week in what happened in Paris and its aftermath JUST SHOWS HOW COWARDLY AND STUPID THE LEFT TRULY ARE. Funny enough the people who worked at that satirical newspaper, Charlie Hebdo were pro left in there feelings and beliefs, BUT EVEN THE COWARDLY LEFTIES WONT SUPPORT THEM ALL THE WAY EXCEPT WITH STUPID MEANINGLESS HASHTAG GESTURES.

Stryker is another lip service instigator with borrowed or stolen balls.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

Hard core lefties dont believe in any religion. So what is this thread about?

It's about eleven posts too long.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part.

Not here part, but there part?

I see.

Svengali wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:52pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:05pm: Oh the lefties trip among themselves when it comes TO CRITICISING CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, and maybe every other religion that wouldnt dare fight back after being slured or insulted by lefties. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, OHH NO NO NO, DONT THEY DARE NOT, You can almost hear a leftie peeeeeing down his pants by the very thought of it. This week in what happened in Paris and its aftermath JUST SHOWS HOW COWARDLY AND STUPID THE LEFT TRULY ARE. Funny enough the people who worked at that satirical newspaper, Charlie Hebdo were pro left in there feelings and beliefs, BUT EVEN THE COWARDLY LEFTIES WONT SUPPORT THEM ALL THE WAY EXCEPT WITH STUPID MEANINGLESS HASHTAG GESTURES. Stryker is another lip service instigator with borrowed or stolen balls.

Really,  :D Hey im trying to understand THIS DEFICIT OF CONVICTION when it comes to lefties against all religions.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:54pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:48pm: But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part. Not here part, but there part? I see.

Go away, IDIOT

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:54pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:48pm: But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part. Not here part, but there part? I see. Go away, IDIOT

Illiteracy, AND personal abuse.

It's no wonder you're never taken seriously.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:54pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:48pm: But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part. Not here part, but there part? I see. Go away, IDIOT Illiteracy, AND personal abuse. It's no wonder you're never taken seriously.

No its just YOU, and i know im in good company,

I think Stroker has to go now!

He and cods are off to demonstrate outside Lakemba mosque!

They are real brave types you know, would crap themselves if a bearded muso knocked on their door!

LOl!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:08pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:54pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:48pm: But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part. Not here part, but there part? I see. Go away, IDIOT Illiteracy, AND personal abuse. It's no wonder you're never taken seriously. No its just YOU, and i know im in good company,

Oh, I'm sure you are.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:15pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:10pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:08pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:54pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:48pm: But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part. Not here part, but there part? I see. Go away, IDIOT Illiteracy, AND personal abuse. It's no wonder you're never taken seriously. No its just YOU, and i know im in good company, Oh, I'm sure you are. http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Health/images-2/mental-ward.jpg

;D ;D ;D ;D Oh gawd

Why dont you find a corner, AND HAVE A BIG CRY.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:22pm:

Why dont you find a corner, AND HAVE A BIG CRY.

I'm far too busy laughing ... at you.

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

It's a curious relationship the Left of the west has with fascist Islam. They both hate capitalism so much, and especially the USA, that they are natural bedfellows. They both also hate the philosophy underlying the Enlightenment and western Liberalism that this binds them together in a danse macabre. Thus we have the sickening spectacle of so many on the Left, especially the Greens but also in certain dark corners of the Labor party, refusing to criticise Islamic barbarity or only grudgingly be drawn into some mealy-mouthed responses. Even more disturbing is that some of their supporters here seem to rejoice in acts of uncivilised extremity by the jihadists. This is the price we are now paying for allowing the political corruption of our educational institutions.

Certainly I think the comfort that the lefties have given to the radical muslims by trying to neutralize the threat from this jihadist mentality growing in Islam to the very citizens of every western nation.it emboldens these jihadist even more to take on the west.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:19pm: Hard core lefties dont believe in any religion. So what is this thread about? True, BUT WHY THE BREAKDOWN IN CONVICTION ?, when hard core lefties are brave and so courageous when sluring, criticising or insulting christian, jews and others BUT PISS WEAK IN DOING THE VERY SAME THING TO ISLAM. ????  :D

The last thing athiests want is to be involved in some religious war between the hard right cristians and the extremist muslims.

Both extremes are as nutty as each other.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:33pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:19pm: Hard core lefties dont believe in any religion. So what is this thread about? True, BUT WHY THE BREAKDOWN IN CONVICTION ?, when hard core lefties are brave and so courageous when sluring, criticising or insulting christian, jews and others BUT PISS WEAK IN DOING THE VERY SAME THING TO ISLAM. ????  :D The last thing athiests want is to be involved in some religious war between the hard right cristians and the extremist muslims. Both extremes are as nutty as each other.

Maybe true, but the problem is, with these radical muslims ATHEISTS would not be treated any better, in fact you would be labelled INFIDEL, as well. so you are stuck in the same boat with the christians, jews and every other non muslim there is in the human race.

Go do your own screeching Stryker and your scaredy mates, I've got enough to protest about, Nazi Newman, saving the GBR, CSG, the 1%, human rights abuses, loss of privacy, the list goes on.....unless you're too lazy to drag yourself away from the computer.

Besides, I've got Muslim friends that are only too keen to offer help when I need it, and I'd like to keep them if it's all the same to you.

If you've got a bone to pick with Muslims, go pick it.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Go do your own screeching Stryker and your scaredy mates, I've got enough to protest about, Nazi Newman, saving the GBR, CSG, the 1%, human rights abuses, loss of privacy, the list goes on.....unless you're too lazy to drag yourself away from the computer. Besides, I've got Muslim friends that are only too keen to offer help when I need it, and I'd like to keep them if it's all the same to you. If you've got a bone to pick with Muslims, go pick it.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Your certainly picky today, have my points rattled something inside your head that resembles a brain ?

If i have, you dont have to thank me.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:30pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:33pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:19pm: Hard core lefties dont believe in any religion. So what is this thread about? True, BUT WHY THE BREAKDOWN IN CONVICTION ?, when hard core lefties are brave and so courageous when sluring, criticising or insulting christian, jews and others BUT PISS WEAK IN DOING THE VERY SAME THING TO ISLAM. ????  :D The last thing athiests want is to be involved in some religious war between the hard right cristians and the extremist muslims. Both extremes are as nutty as each other. Maybe true, but the problem is, with these radical muslims ATHEISTS would not be treated any better, in fact you would be labelled INFIDEL, as well. so you are stuck in the same boat with the christians, jews and every other non muslim there is in the human race.

The penny has finally dropped, no one is safe from Muslim fanatics, not even Muslims, as we now know from the Paris attack.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

If you've got a bone to pick with Muslims, go pick it.

In person?

I don't think that's ever going to happen.

Islamophobia has got such a hold on young stryker, that he crosses the road whenever he sees a Muslim walking towards him.

He's never spoken to a Muslim in his life.

When there is a war to defend the country, the lefties are always off cowering in the corner.  They are happy to attack Christianity - which is the underlying foundation of Western Civilisation - but gutless to attack Islam which is the scourge of the planet.  Every muslim country is a craphole and the fundamentalists are determined to make it a whole lot worse.  Imagine what Australia would look like if it had been settled by Muslims.  We'd be a destitute third-world country with refugees sailing TOWARDS Indonesia.

Islam is a curse on any country.  Even supposedly advanced Islamic countries like Dubai are still socially backward and everything they have that is good is imported.  without oil revenues, it would be a sandpit.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:42pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:39pm: Go do your own screeching Stryker and your scaredy mates, I've got enough to protest about, Nazi Newman, saving the GBR, CSG, the 1%, human rights abuses, loss of privacy, the list goes on.....unless you're too lazy to drag yourself away from the computer. Besides, I've got Muslim friends that are only too keen to offer help when I need it, and I'd like to keep them if it's all the same to you. If you've got a bone to pick with Muslims, go pick it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Your certainly picky today, have my points rattled something inside your head that resembles a brain ? If i have, you dont have to thank me.

So it's time for the narky comments, when you start to sound silly.

Why are you wasting your time on the ozpolitics forum? Shouldn't you be on an Islam forum talking to Muslims and asking why they are so bad?

Go tell them how much you hate them, we already know.

(but, but it's safe here)

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

When there is a war to defend the country, the lefties are always off cowering in the corner.  They are happy to attack Christianity - which is the underlying foundation of Western Civilisation - but gutless to attack Islam which is the scourge of the planet.  Every muslim country is a craphole and the fundamentalists are determined to make it a whole lot worse.  Imagine what Australia would look like if it had been settled by Muslims.  We'd be a destitute third-world country with refugees sailing TOWARDS Indonesia. Islam is a curse on any country.  Even supposedly advanced Islamic countries like Dubai are still socially backward and everything they have that is good is imported.  without oil revenues, it would be a sandpit.

What have you done longy?

Have you been parading in front of the local mosque with anti Islam banners? It is still legal to protest you know.

Surely you wouldn't be embarrassed to protest, you could put a little disclaimer on the bottom saying you are not the great unwashed, you are an upstanding Liberal voter.

Have you started to get a group together to get out there and rebel against Islam?

Have you done anything other than rant like a loony on this forum where no one really cares.

Have you arranged to meet stryker, red baron, sprint and other like minded people to form  an anti Islam association?

Go do something you lazy people....and get a job.

At least when the left are against something they've got the guts to get out there and say it.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 3:00pm:

Have you arranged to meet stryker, red baron, sprint and other like minded people to form  an anti Islam association?

Now that's a funny thought.

Can you imagine those Islamophobic clowns protesting in the streets? I sure can't.


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stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:30pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:33pm: Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:19pm: Hard core lefties dont believe in any religion. So what is this thread about? True, BUT WHY THE BREAKDOWN IN CONVICTION ?, when hard core lefties are brave and so courageous when sluring, criticising or insulting christian, jews and others BUT PISS WEAK IN DOING THE VERY SAME THING TO ISLAM. ????  :D The last thing athiests want is to be involved in some religious war between the hard right cristians and the extremist muslims. Both extremes are as nutty as each other. Maybe true, but the problem is, with these radical muslims ATHEISTS would not be treated any better, in fact you would be labelled INFIDEL, as well. so you are stuck in the same boat with the christians, jews and every other non muslim there is in the human race.

The god botherers from both sides do more to promote a secular state than they realise.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 2:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:08pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:54pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:48pm: But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part. Not here part, but there part? I see. Go away, IDIOT Illiteracy, AND personal abuse. It's no wonder you're never taken seriously. No its just YOU, and i know im in good company,

Your confederates and your ilk are trolls, cowards and simpletons. You are in good company. If you were in a war you would need rear vision mirrors so you could shoot over your shoulder while running away.

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Even South Park backed out. .

Ahh, now I know why your information is always wrong ....  :D :D :D :D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 3:05pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:00pm: Have you arranged to meet stryker, red baron, sprint and other like minded people to form  an anti Islam association? Now that's a funny thought. Can you imagine those Islamophobic clowns protesting in the streets? I sure can't.

They're too chicken to take up their own cause, they want the lefties to do it for them.

Nah! go fight your own war we're busy with climate change.

Svengali wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 3:27pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:10pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:08pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 2:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:54pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:48pm: But i believe the major reason is mostly cowardice on there part. Not here part, but there part? I see. Go away, IDIOT Illiteracy, AND personal abuse. It's no wonder you're never taken seriously. No its just YOU, and i know im in good company, Your confederates and your ilk are trolls, cowards and simpletons. You are in good company. If you were in a war you would need rear vision mirrors so you could shoot over your shoulder while running away.

So tell me then why is there such a DEFICIT OF CONVICTION when you insidious leftie scums hammer Christianity and judaism and not to Islam , IT PURE COWARDICE, ITS A RELIGION LIKE CHRISTIANITY, WHY IS ISLAM OUT OF BOUNDS FOR SLURS AND INSULTS ???  :D :D

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:05pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:00pm: Have you arranged to meet stryker, red baron, sprint and other like minded people to form  an anti Islam association? Now that's a funny thought. Can you imagine those Islamophobic clowns protesting in the streets? I sure can't. They're too chicken to take up their own cause, they want the lefties to do it for them. Nah! go fight your own war we're busy with climate change.

What worse ?? the attempt to be brave, or listening to lefties justifying its ok to be cowards to radical islamists

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

So tell me then why is there such a DEFICIT OF CONVICTION when you insidious leftie scums hammer Christianity and judaism and not to Islam

Is there? Or is it merely a case of you using ONE incident to target a whole religion, so when those from the left show you one incident from a christian, you see it as an attack on the whole religion?

In most cases that I have seen, and I admittedly usually try to avoid the extrmists threads as its full of ... well, extremists, ... all the left are doing is giving you a taste of your own medicine, and you don't like it

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 4:01pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:42pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:05pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:00pm: Have you arranged to meet stryker, red baron, sprint and other like minded people to form  an anti Islam association? Now that's a funny thought. Can you imagine those Islamophobic clowns protesting in the streets? I sure can't. They're too chicken to take up their own cause, they want the lefties to do it for them. Nah! go fight your own war we're busy with climate change. What worse ?? the attempt to be brave, or listening to lefties justifying its ok to be cowards to radical islamists

You should wear brown trousers to hide the stains.

Svengali wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 4:01pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:42pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:05pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:00pm: Have you arranged to meet stryker, red baron, sprint and other like minded people to form  an anti Islam association? Now that's a funny thought. Can you imagine those Islamophobic clowns protesting in the streets? I sure can't. They're too chicken to take up their own cause, they want the lefties to do it for them. Nah! go fight your own war we're busy with climate change. What worse ?? the attempt to be brave, or listening to lefties justifying its ok to be cowards to radical islamists You should wear brown trousers to hide the stains.

it wouldn't help ... he's got it running all the way down his legs

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 4:01pm:

What worse ?? the attempt to be brave, or listening to lefties justifying its ok to be cowards to radical islamists

See....this is where the confusion lies, one minute you're on about Islam/Muslims in entirety, next minute it's only radical Muslims.

There is a huge difference between all Muslims and radical/fanatical Muslims.

I am brave with Muslims, very brave, they do me no harm, however I don't suppose I would be too brave if I came face to face with a fanatical Muslim. I bet I never do though, they're pretty scarce, thank goodness.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 4:01pm: What worse ?? the attempt to be brave, or listening to lefties justifying its ok to be cowards to radical islamists See....this is where the confusion lies, one minute you're on about Islam/Muslims in entirety, next minute it's only radical Muslims. There is a huge difference between all Muslims and radical/fanatical Muslims. I am brave with Muslims, very brave, they do me no harm, however I don't suppose I would be too brave if I came face to face with a fanatical Muslim. I bet I never do though, they're pretty scarce, thank goodness.

I dont care about muslim sensitivities like you when we have westerners getting blown up, taken hostoge and shot, in places such as america, britain, canada, australia and NOW FRANCE,

I DONT CARE IF YOU HAVE INSTINCTS FOR TREASON JUST TO IMPRESS YOUR MUSLIM FRIENDS.

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

Svengali wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 4:10pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 4:01pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:42pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:05pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:00pm: Have you arranged to meet stryker, red baron, sprint and other like minded people to form  an anti Islam association? Now that's a funny thought. Can you imagine those Islamophobic clowns protesting in the streets? I sure can't. They're too chicken to take up their own cause, they want the lefties to do it for them. Nah! go fight your own war we're busy with climate change. What worse ?? the attempt to be brave, or listening to lefties justifying its ok to be cowards to radical islamists You should wear brown trousers to hide the stains. it wouldn't help ... he's got it running all the way down his legs

Johnny smith and svengali must be related to think alike as idiots

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm: So tell me then why is there such a DEFICIT OF CONVICTION when you insidious leftie scums hammer Christianity and judaism and not to Islam Is there? Or is it merely a case of you using ONE incident to target a whole religion, so when those from the left show you one incident from a christian, you see it as an attack on the whole religion? In most cases that I have seen, and I admittedly usually try to avoid the extrmists threads as its full of ... well, extremists, ... all the left are doing is giving you a taste of your own medicine, and you don't like it

Seperate radical muslim attacks in the span of a few years, Boston marathon, america, Britain with soldier lee rigby,  the attack on a war memorial in canada and an attacK on a coffee shop in sydney australia, AND NOW PARIS ARE YOU SURE ITS JUST ONLY ONE INCIDENT  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You still havent answered why lefties are more brave insulting christians and fearful about insulting muslims ??

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 4:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 4:02pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm: So tell me then why is there such a DEFICIT OF CONVICTION when you insidious leftie scums hammer Christianity and judaism and not to Islam Is there? Or is it merely a case of you using ONE incident to target a whole religion, so when those from the left show you one incident from a christian, you see it as an attack on the whole religion? In most cases that I have seen, and I admittedly usually try to avoid the extrmists threads as its full of ... well, extremists, ... all the left are doing is giving you a taste of your own medicine, and you don't like it Seperate radical muslim attacks in the span of a few years, Boston marathon, america, Britain with soldier lee rigby, war memorial in canada and sydney australia, YEAH ONE JUST INCIDENT  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

and if i start listing seperate incidents involving christians you cry its an attack on christians. Yes they are seperate incidents, there are a lot of lunatics out there and extremism is a magnet to them ......  that however, does not mean all islamics should be punished for it

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:05pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 4:47pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 4:02pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm: So tell me then why is there such a DEFICIT OF CONVICTION when you insidious leftie scums hammer Christianity and judaism and not to Islam Is there? Or is it merely a case of you using ONE incident to target a whole religion, so when those from the left show you one incident from a christian, you see it as an attack on the whole religion? In most cases that I have seen, and I admittedly usually try to avoid the extrmists threads as its full of ... well, extremists, ... all the left are doing is giving you a taste of your own medicine, and you don't like it Seperate radical muslim attacks in the span of a few years, Boston marathon, america, Britain with soldier lee rigby, war memorial in canada and sydney australia, YEAH ONE JUST INCIDENT  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D and if i start listing seperate incidents involving christians you cry its an attack on christians. Yes they are seperate incidents, there are a lot of lunatics out there and extremism is a magnet to them ......  that however, does not mean all islamics should be punished for it

Im not saying anything about punishment, I want to see the muslims realise that there is a big, big, big problem with there religion of Islam at the moment, one so threatening its transcending borders and impacting places across the western world, instead of this language of denial from them and the lefties, I would like them to confront it more than what were getting.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

Oh the lefties trip among themselves when it comes TO CRITICISING CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, and maybe every other religion that wouldnt dare fight back after being slured or insulted by lefties. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, OHH NO NO NO, DONT THEY DARE NOT, You can almost hear a leftie peeeeeing down his pants by the very thought of it. This week in what happened in Paris and its aftermath JUST SHOWS HOW COWARDLY AND STUPID THE LEFT TRULY ARE. Funny enough the people who worked at that satirical newspaper, Charlie Hebdo were pro left in there feelings and beliefs, BUT EVEN THE COWARDLY LEFTIES WONT SUPPORT THEM ALL THE WAY EXCEPT WITH STUPID MEANINGLESS HASHTAG GESTURES.

Intelligent people use their minds. Boneheads and the waste-heap bottom layer of society use balls.

Stryker's balls have seen better days. Now grizzled and shrivelled. The best outcome for Stryker would be some injections of fat into his shrivelled balls, a shave and some bright decorative paint to make them look like Eastern European Easter eggs. Stryker could then use them as decorative accessories for his hate speech sessions.

Svengali wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:29pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:05pm: Oh the lefties trip among themselves when it comes TO CRITICISING CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, and maybe every other religion that wouldnt dare fight back after being slured or insulted by lefties. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, OHH NO NO NO, DONT THEY DARE NOT, You can almost hear a leftie peeeeeing down his pants by the very thought of it. This week in what happened in Paris and its aftermath JUST SHOWS HOW COWARDLY AND STUPID THE LEFT TRULY ARE. Funny enough the people who worked at that satirical newspaper, Charlie Hebdo were pro left in there feelings and beliefs, BUT EVEN THE COWARDLY LEFTIES WONT SUPPORT THEM ALL THE WAY EXCEPT WITH STUPID MEANINGLESS HASHTAG GESTURES. Intelligent people use their minds. Boneheads and the waste-heap bottom layer of society use balls.

And your so call intelligient mind tells you that Christians are lame ducks as they dont fight back, SO INSULT THEM, when it comes to muslims, your so called intelligeint mind goes into coward mode, for they will fight back AND YOU DONT INSULT THEM.

Oh its pretty apparent how your so called intelligient mind works, pretty simple  :D ;D

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

And your so call intelligient mind tells you that Christians are lame ducks as they dont fight back, SO INSULT THEM, when it comes to muslims, your so called intelligeint mind goes into coward mode, AND YOU DONT INSULT THEM.

You've been out on the streets protesting against Islam this weekend, have you Mr Bublé?

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:

Svengali wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:29pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:05pm: Oh the lefties trip among themselves when it comes TO CRITICISING CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, and maybe every other religion that wouldnt dare fight back after being slured or insulted by lefties. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, OHH NO NO NO, DONT THEY DARE NOT, You can almost hear a leftie peeeeeing down his pants by the very thought of it. This week in what happened in Paris and its aftermath JUST SHOWS HOW COWARDLY AND STUPID THE LEFT TRULY ARE. Funny enough the people who worked at that satirical newspaper, Charlie Hebdo were pro left in there feelings and beliefs, BUT EVEN THE COWARDLY LEFTIES WONT SUPPORT THEM ALL THE WAY EXCEPT WITH STUPID MEANINGLESS HASHTAG GESTURES. Intelligent people use their minds. Boneheads and the waste-heap bottom layer of society use balls. And your so call intelligient mind tells you that Christians are lame ducks as they dont fight back, SO INSULT THEM, when it comes to muslims, your so called intelligeint mind goes into coward mode, for they will fight back AND YOU DONT INSULT THEM. Oh its pretty apparent how your so called intelligient mind works, pretty simple  :D ;D

You need an urgent scrotum lift. Those wrinkled saggy things are not going to strike fear into the hearts of muslims. Have you considered applying your balls in comedy?

If we are going to talk about balls, you have to admit Islam has the West by the nuts. You can tell by the placards carried in the streets of France. Unity? For what purpose? Unity will not stop the next Muslim atrocity. For starters they should be carrying large copies of the offending cartoons.

Svengali wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 6:03pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:40pm: Svengali wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:29pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 1:05pm: Oh the lefties trip among themselves when it comes TO CRITICISING CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, and maybe every other religion that wouldnt dare fight back after being slured or insulted by lefties. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, OHH NO NO NO, DONT THEY DARE NOT, You can almost hear a leftie peeeeeing down his pants by the very thought of it. This week in what happened in Paris and its aftermath JUST SHOWS HOW COWARDLY AND STUPID THE LEFT TRULY ARE. Funny enough the people who worked at that satirical newspaper, Charlie Hebdo were pro left in there feelings and beliefs, BUT EVEN THE COWARDLY LEFTIES WONT SUPPORT THEM ALL THE WAY EXCEPT WITH STUPID MEANINGLESS HASHTAG GESTURES. Intelligent people use their minds. Boneheads and the waste-heap bottom layer of society use balls. And your so call intelligient mind tells you that Christians are lame ducks as they dont fight back, SO INSULT THEM, when it comes to muslims, your so called intelligeint mind goes into coward mode, for they will fight back AND YOU DONT INSULT THEM. Oh its pretty apparent how your so called intelligient mind works, pretty simple  :D ;D You need an urgent scrotum lift. Those wrinkled saggy things are not going to strike fear into the hearts of muslims. Have you considered applying your balls in comedy?

Have you considered GROWING A PAIR, instead of being ignorant of this mass cowardice among the left

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 6:42pm:

Have you considered GROWING A PAIR, instead of being ignorant of this mass cowardice among the left

The right are hiding under their beds, petrified of anyone with a beard.

The left, however, have no irrational fear at all.

If we're going to discuss cowardice, surely we should start with the Islamophobes on the right (wrong) side of politics.

The right are hiding under their beds, petrified of anyone with a beard.
The left too must be pertrified of anyone with a beard, if they cant bring themselves to INSULT OR CRITICISE MUSLIMS AS MUCH AS THEY DO CHRISTIANS AND JEWS

The left, however, have no irrational fear at all.
If that was the case then the left would EQUALLY INSULT MUSLIMS as much as they do christians, catholics and jews, would they ??


If we're going to discuss cowardice, surely we should start with the Islamophobes on the right (wrong) side of politics.
Your still an idiot and this is how far ill go with you in this debate

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 6:42pm: Have you considered GROWING A PAIR, instead of being ignorant of this mass cowardice among the left The right are hiding under their beds, petrified of anyone with a beard. The left, however, have no irrational fear at all. If we're going to discuss cowardice, surely we should start with the Islamophobes on the right (wrong) side of politics.

Your nuts are in the vice with Svengali & Smithy.

The only group of people immune to criticism in our society are Muslims .... because of all the apologist soft c0cks like you & the afore mentioned who are blind to the events happening world wide with the spread of the totalitarian ideology that is Islam.

In this whole thread you have failed to answer the question as to why you & other leftoids have the gumption to criticise everything that has to do with western society, whether that be religion or politics, human right abuses etc.

Yet haven't the gumption to criticise Islam/Muslims & the whole orchestrated strategy they use when they are allowed into western countries as supposed asylum seekers from Islamic dictatorship hell holes.

It's the same deal when you criticise members of this forum because of their views but if the member was a Muslim you wouldn't have the guts.

PC w/ankers.

Gnads wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 6:54pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 6:42pm: Have you considered GROWING A PAIR, instead of being ignorant of this mass cowardice among the left The right are hiding under their beds, petrified of anyone with a beard. The left, however, have no irrational fear at all. If we're going to discuss cowardice, surely we should start with the Islamophobes on the right (wrong) side of politics. Your nuts are in the vice with Svengali & Smithy. The only group of people immune to criticism in our society are Muslims .... because of all the apologist soft c0cks like you & the afore mentioned who are blind to the events happening world wide with the spread of the totalitarian ideology that is Islam. In this whole thread you have failed to answer the question as to why you & other leftoids have the gumption to criticise everything that has to do with western society, whether that be religion or politics, human right abuses etc. Yet haven't the gumption to criticise Islam/Muslims & the whole orchestrated strategy they use when they are allowed into western countries as supposed asylum seekers from Islamic dictatorship hell holes. It's the same deal when you criticise members of this forum because of their views but if the member was a Muslim you wouldn't have the guts. PC w/ankers.

Islam is a particularly stupid religion (I've said this so many times in this forum, that I've lost count).

Anyone who devotes their lives to Islam is, quite frankly, a fool.

Well, now that I've made you look like an absolute tosser (which we all knew anyway), what else do you have up your little sleeve?

Stop patting yourself on the back

it could be construed as self pleasuring

if you get my drift  ::)

Gnads wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:54pm:

Stop patting yourself on the back

I'm not.

I'm just telling the truth: I have always criticised Islam.

Why anyone would want to devote their lives to such a silly religion is beyond me.

Mind you, I say the same about most other religions.

Gnads wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

The only group of people immune to criticism in our society are Muslims

who, apart from you and the other bunch of nutless wonders, has ever said Muslims are immune to criticism? 

Gnads wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 6:54pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 6:42pm: Have you considered GROWING A PAIR, instead of being ignorant of this mass cowardice among the left The right are hiding under their beds, petrified of anyone with a beard. The left, however, have no irrational fear at all. If we're going to discuss cowardice, surely we should start with the Islamophobes on the right (wrong) side of politics. Your nuts are in the vice with Svengali & Smithy. The only group of people immune to criticism in our society are Muslims .... because of all the apologist soft c0cks like you & the afore mentioned who are blind to the events happening world wide with the spread of the totalitarian ideology that is Islam. In this whole thread you have failed to answer the question as to why you & other leftoids have the gumption to criticise everything that has to do with western society, whether that be religion or politics, human right abuses etc. Yet haven't the gumption to criticise Islam/Muslims & the whole orchestrated strategy they use when they are allowed into western countries as supposed asylum seekers from Islamic dictatorship hell holes. It's the same deal when you criticise members of this forum because of their views but if the member was a Muslim you wouldn't have the guts. PC w/ankers.

Great post, you have my applause Gnads because my agreement cant be any less.

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 8:48pm: The only group of people immune to criticism in our society are Muslims who, apart from you and the other bunch of nutless wonders, has ever said Muslims are immune to criticism?

Nobody.

It's just Gnads, and his band of nutless wonders.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:10pm:

Great post, you have my applause Gnads because my agreemant cant be any less.

Nor your IQ, Mr Bublé.

And we're all in "agreemant" of that.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:12pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:10pm: Great post, you have my applause Gnads because my agreemant cant be any less. Nor your IQ, Mr Bublé. And we're all in "angreemant" of that.

I think many others like me would be in agreement that you are an idiot here and you cant even explain in any terms why most of the left has a go at christianity with more intensity than Islam itself, why its spared all the lefties anti all religion venom ??? 

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:24pm:

you cant even explain in any terms why most of the left have a go at christianity with more intensity than Islam itself

they don't ... it's in your head. Explained enough for you?

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:31pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:24pm: you cant even explain in any terms why most of the left have a go at christianity with more intensity than Islam itself they don't ... it's in your head. Explained enough for you?

It's not in our heads, it's most leftie cowards are afraid of losing their heads. The big bad muslims scare the hell out of the people in the Australian media. Especially the ABC.  You'd never see an Australian paper run a Mo cartoon.

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:31pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:24pm: you cant even explain in any terms why most of the left have a go at christianity with more intensity than Islam itself they don't ... it's in your head. Explained enough for you?

Yeah, And whats in your head ??? if there is anything ?

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:31pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:24pm: you cant even explain in any terms why most of the left have a go at christianity with more intensity than Islam itself they don't ... it's in your head. Explained enough for you? Yeah, And whats in your head ???

something you're certainly not familiar with .... it's called a brain

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

It's not in our heads, it's most leftie cowards are afraid of losing their heads

I don't worry about muslims, thats you .... you are the one who seems to be afraid of losing their head. ..


Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

The big bad muslims scare the hell out of the people in the Australian media

they do not scare people in the media, they only scare stupid people ....

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

You'd never see an Australian paper run a Mo carto

send murdoch an email .... or is he a leftie too?  :D :D :D :D

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:31pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:24pm: you cant even explain in any terms why most of the left have a go at christianity with more intensity than Islam itself they don't ... it's in your head. Explained enough for you? It's not in our heads, it's most leftie cowards are afraid of losing their heads. The big bad muslims scare the hell out of the people in the Australian media. Especially the ABC.  You'd never see an Australian paper run a Mo cartoon.

I know and they cant even explain why they are brave enough to have a go at catholics and some of it legitimate when it comes to sexual abuse by the glergy, but they do go too far and they love it, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, they tip toe, and every muslim inspired terrorist attack, is responded with ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE,

Quote:

Most lefties have NO BALLS when confronting Islam

What a strange idea.

Why would anyone be going around randomly confronting a religion of any type ?

Is anyone saying that the conservatives posting here regularly confront people of Islamic faith ?

I would think that doing this would be problematic - you end up talking to a judge and more than likely having some treatment.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:38pm:

they are brave enough to have a go at catholics and some of it legitimate when it comes to sexual abuse by the glergy, but they do go too far and they love it, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, they tip toe

In your first example, the church tried to hide the sexual abuse, it wasn't just the actions of a few. In your second example, every muslim leader has come out and condemned the terrorist attacks ... if you can't see the difference you're a fool

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:33pm: It's not in our heads, it's most leftie cowards are afraid of losing their heads I don't worry about muslims, thats you .... you are the one who seems to be afraid of losing their head. .. Rocketanski wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:33pm: The big bad muslims scare the hell out of the people in the Australian media they do not scare people in the media, they only scare stupid people ....

The Australian media lick dirty sweaty goat flavoured muslim arse cracks. I remember they sucked up to that muslim sheila and gave her Australian Of The Year and then she gets busted for selling coke. When the leftist media run The Cronulla Riot it's always the big bad bogans did it. They never talk about the stabbings and random bashings done by Lebanese muslims afterwards. You lick dirty sweaty goat flavoured arse crack yourself John. being in the property industry you'd walk around with muslim pooh all over  your face everyday.

What a strange idea.
omg i cant believe this person

Why would anyone be going around randomly confronting a religion of any type ? Well what does the WEST DO WHEN RADICAL ISLAMISTS FROM ISLAM WANTS TO ATTACK THE WEST THE WAY THEY ARE GOING ??? be non violent, do nothing and cross our fingers and hope ???

Is anyone saying that the conservatives posting here regularly confront people of Islamic faith ? People make assumptions all the time that are wrong, I have known muslims, but that doesnt mean i should ignore a threat from a part of that religion that has got people killed across the western world in recent months

I would think that doing this would be problematic - you end up talking to a judge and more than likely having some treatment.[/quote]
Yeah, im going to talk to the judge, so being one of many who is fed up with the radical elements of Islam and stating that ISLAM HAS A BIG, BIG, PROBLEM IS GOING TO GET ME IN LEGAL TROUBLE ???? ???
  ;D ;D ;D
Dnaever used to be smart

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:46pm:

What a strange idea. omg i cant believe this person Why would anyone be going around randomly confronting a religion of any type ? Well what does the WEST DO WHEN RADICAL ISLAMISTS FROM ISLAM WANTS TO ATTACK THE WEST THE WAY THEY ARE GOING ??? be non violent ??? Is anyone saying that the conservatives posting here regularly confront people of Islamic faith ? People make assumptions all the time that are wrong, I would think that doing this would be problematic - you end up talking to a judge and more than likely having some treatment.

Yeah, im going to talk to the judge, so being one of many who is fed up with the radical elements of Islam and stating that ISLAM HAS A BIG, BIG, PROBLEM IS GOING TO GET ME IN LEGAL TROUBLE ???? ???
  ;D ;D ;D
Dnaever used to be smart[/quote]

Well what does the WEST DO WHEN RADICAL ISLAMISTS FROM ISLAM WANTS TO ATTACK
Read the topic and discussion it is about confronting Islam - nothing about radicals - that is very different.


Quote:

Is anyone saying that the conservatives posting here regularly confront people of Islamic faith ? People make assumptions all the time that are wrong,

Doesn't questioning the cape cods of Lefties for not being confrontational to the religious group suggest that the righties are better endowed in terms of the contents of their marble bag ?

with the radical elements of Islam

The topic is about confronting Islam - to this point I do not think that separating radicals from the vast majority has scored a mention except for you.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:05pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:46pm: What a strange idea. omg i cant believe this person Why would anyone be going around randomly confronting a religion of any type ? Well what does the WEST DO WHEN RADICAL ISLAMISTS FROM ISLAM WANTS TO ATTACK THE WEST THE WAY THEY ARE GOING ??? be non violent ??? Is anyone saying that the conservatives posting here regularly confront people of Islamic faith ? People make assumptions all the time that are wrong, I would think that doing this would be problematic - you end up talking to a judge and more than likely having some treatment. Yeah, im going to talk to the judge, so being one of many who is fed up with the radical elements of Islam and stating that ISLAM HAS A BIG, BIG, PROBLEM IS GOING TO GET ME IN LEGAL TROUBLE ???? ???   ;D ;D ;D Dnaever used to be smart

Well what does the WEST DO WHEN RADICAL ISLAMISTS FROM ISLAM WANTS TO ATTACK
Read the topic and discussion it is about confronting Islam - nothing about radicals - that is very different.


Quote:

Is anyone saying that the conservatives posting here regularly confront people of Islamic faith ? People make assumptions all the time that are wrong,

Doesn't questioning the cape cods of Lefties for not being confrontational to the religious group suggest that the righties are better endowed in terms of the contents of their marble bag ?

with the radical elements of Islam

The topic is about confronting Islam - to this point I do not think that separating radicals from the vast majority has scored a mention except for you.[/quote]

Confronting Islam, yes BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM, FROM ISLAM ITSELF, NOT BUDDISM OR HINDISM THAT ALSO EXIST IN ALL WESTERN NATIONS, alongside Islam ??

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:46pm:

What a strange idea. omg i cant believe this person Why would anyone be going around randomly confronting a religion of any type ? Well what does the WEST DO WHEN RADICAL ISLAMISTS FROM ISLAM WANTS TO ATTACK THE WEST THE WAY THEY ARE GOING ??? be non violent, do nothing and cross our fingers and hope ??? Is anyone saying that the conservatives posting here regularly confront people of Islamic faith ? People make assumptions all the time that are wrong, I have known muslims, but that doesnt mean i should ignore a threat from a part of that religion that has got people killed across the western world in recent months I would think that doing this would be problematic - you end up talking to a judge and more than likely having some treatment.

Yeah, im going to talk to the judge, so being one of many who is fed up with the radical elements of Islam and stating that ISLAM HAS A BIG, BIG, PROBLEM IS GOING TO GET ME IN LEGAL TROUBLE ???? ???
  ;D ;D ;D
Dnaever used to be smart[/quote]

Dnaever used to be smart


No never.

stryder wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:13pm:

Confronting Islam, yes BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM, FROM ISLAM ITSELF, NOT BUDDISM OR HINDISM THAT ALSO EXIST IN ALL WESTERN NATIONS, alongside Islam ??

In my opinion targeting mostly innocent Islamic people in Australia will do more harm than good. In my view the real fight is with groups like ISIS etc we need to take them on head first on their soil to prevent it spreading into our community any more. In my view we can not have much impact on out local soil, it is a fight that we will lose that way and in fact most of what we see will only make things worse.

Eradicate the threat from the source and stop marginalising people in Australia who mostly see these attacks as being outrageous. Virtually every Islamic leader has condemned the recent terrorist outrages we have seen

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:27pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:13pm: Confronting Islam, yes BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM, FROM ISLAM ITSELF, NOT BUDDISM OR HINDISM THAT ALSO EXIST IN ALL WESTERN NATIONS, alongside Islam ?? In my opinion targeting mostly innocent Islamic people in Australia will do more harm than good. In my view the real fight is with groups like ISIS etc we need to take them on head first on their soil to prevent it spreading into our community any more. In my view we can not have much impact on out local soil, it is a fight that we will lose that way and in fact most of what we see will only make things worse. Eradicate the threat from the source and stop marginalising people in Australia who mostly see these attacks as being outrageous. Virtually every Islamic leader has condemned the recent terrorist outrages we have seen

I think you would find gestures of condemnation wont be enough, and the source is very complicated because IT HAS TENTACLES THAT REACHES IN PARTS OF THE VERY MUSLIM COMMNUTIES ITSELF WORLDWIDE, and yes there will be muslims who probably are good and dont want to subscribe to terrorism, but anyhow will get caught up in this by mistake.

Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject.

Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it.

While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic
extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims
with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me
for this, but it's just common logic.

Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons-
ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy
priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists
decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in
Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker
gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result
of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered
massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.)

No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it?

So why are we doing it to the Muslims?

Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as
anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away.

I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they
are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very
angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and
misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right
in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone
or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from
all that crap, and we don't want it here'.

But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many
go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and
funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim
neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash
with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'.

Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no
time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to
tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo-
phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well
and for the same reasons.

The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual
extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable
backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non-
practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you
believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare.

If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and
they are welcome to it.

I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the
actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective.

OK, bring on the inevitable...


EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual
really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed,
all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture.
There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is
their fatal flaw.

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:44pm:

Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non- practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare. If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective. OK, bring on the inevitable... EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed, all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture. There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is their fatal flaw.

Nothing in there that explains why lefties hammer, slur, insult and criticise christians, jews and catholics with such intensity and without fear, while at the same time tip toeing and mostly silent, fearful on doing the same with the muslims, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

And im still waiting

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:34pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:33pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:31pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:24pm: you cant even explain in any terms why most of the left have a go at christianity with more intensity than Islam itself they don't ... it's in your head. Explained enough for you? Yeah, And whats in your head ??? something you're certainly not familiar with .... it's called a brain

;D ;D ;D ;D,

Really, Too bad that it comes across as buggered UP, and never properly used.

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:44pm:

[b]Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. .... (shortened due to word count limit)

The problem is a philosophical one. It comes down to definitions. What is a chair? What is a dog? What is a car? Not all cats are the same, they come in different sizes, colours, and shapes. But they are all cats. I can't call a cat a dog. Sure I can call it a dog, but it is not and never will be an actual dog.

Religion and any form of belief (or non belief) has the same issue of definitions. Islam is definable. There are certain foundational aspects of Islam that makes it Islam. Being Muslim therefore has to be more than just saying "I'm a Muslim". The idea therefor of being a non practicing Muslim is actually an absurdity. It is like a person claiming to be an atheist but saying they believe in a real god; essentially a non practicing atheist. They can call themselves an atheist, but they clearly are not. Ditto for Islam. Many of these moderate Muslims and non practising Muslims are not Muslims. They simply do not live to or believe in the foundational aspects that make Islam Islam, and this is where the confusion comes in.

These non practicing Muslims that are the peaceful ones of our society are simply not living as Muslims, and are therefore outside the definition of what makes someone a Muslim. These extremist Muslims sadly are in fact living as Muslims. They are doing exactly what their religion expects of them. Criticising Islam then gets taken as blaming all Muslims, but the criticism is against the ideology itself and those who actually follow it.

We would have no issue with saying nazism is evil. If we said "nazis are the problem" no one would turn around and say "what about moderate nazis? What about non practising nazis?". Yet when the ideology that is Islam, that is definable and makes Islam Islam, is criticised, suddenly the issue becomes "what about those moderate Muslims (who don't actually fit the definition of Islam and don't even practice it) why should they be tarred with the same brush?" Well, no one is actually tarring them with the same brush. The brush is tarring actual Muslims who live by and believe in the ideology of Islam as Islam defines itself. The people who call themselves Muslims but don't believe in Allah, or say they are Muslim but pray to a pink elephant, these people are not being criticised.

It is a tricky issue and one that will cause no end of arguments in forums like this, but it is a result of people taking definable terms and self labelling themselves that term out side of its actual meaning. Islam has a meaning, and what it stands for is what is being condemned. Not the person who claims to be a Muslim but does not believe anything that it stands for.

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 12:11am:

Nothing in there that explains why lefties hammer, slur, insult and criticise christians, jews and catholics with such intensity and without fear, while at the same time tip toeing and mostly silent, fearful on doing the same with the muslims, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And im still waiting

That's because I didn't intend there to be.

Why?

Because your whole premise is bullsh1t. That's why.

You seem to think that anything less than total howling outrage at every single Muslim is
somehow 'leftist', and that there is something 'leftist' about pointing out that this attitude
is wrong.

I've seen the 'left' hammering Muslims here many times, and they certainly do on some
of 'my' other forums and on Facebook. The difference is, they target their hammering to
those who deserve it, not all Muslims.

I've also seen the Right 'hammer, slur, insult and criticise christians, jews and catholics'
with all the intensity you accuse the left of, but you, of course, didn't see it.

Personally, not being into the whole 'Sky Fairy' myth at all, I'll mock and abuse whichever
religion I please, whenever I please.

But I will first ascertain to my own satisfaction whether it's justified or not.

In the case of the current abuse of anyone and anything Muslim - no, it's not justified.

I will always stand up for what is right - not what is Right.

They are seldom the same thing.

---

Good propaganda here my fellow "progressives". We will continue to win the war against Western civilisation from the safety of our computers, lecture halls, ABC and SBS. Only once all the freedoms in the West have been destroyed can there be world peace. This is progress.

I know your problem stryker......you watch the news.

I watched it last night and if you believed all that shyte they're going on with, you'd be pooping yourself.


Overreaction.....oh yeah!

You can just about feel the fear coming through the tv screen. I can understand why some people are panicking.

Here's some sage advice for you fear mongers.....forget the Muzzies and enjoy life.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:22am:

I know your problem stryker......you watch the news. I watched it last night and if you believed all that shyte they're going on with, you'd be pooping yourself. Overreaction.....oh yeah! You can just about feel the fear coming through the tv screen. I can understand why some people are panicking. Here's some sage advice for you fear mongers.....forget the Muzzies and enjoy life.

Good propaganda, Comrade. But will they believe it? After all, we "progressives" fear Christians, bankers, CEOs, conservatives, rich people, successful people, white people, males (whites only), and Murdoch.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:27pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:13pm: Confronting Islam, yes BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM, FROM ISLAM ITSELF, NOT BUDDISM OR HINDISM THAT ALSO EXIST IN ALL WESTERN NATIONS, alongside Islam ?? In my opinion targeting mostly innocent Islamic people in Australia will do more harm than good. In my view the real fight is with groups like ISIS etc we need to take them on head first on their soil to prevent it spreading into our community any more. In my view we can not have much impact on out local soil, it is a fight that we will lose that way and in fact most of what we see will only make things worse. Eradicate the threat from the source and stop marginalising people in Australia who mostly see these attacks as being outrageous. Virtually every Islamic leader has condemned the recent terrorist outrages we have seen

 
Yes .... telling people what they want to hear

but are they being truthful?

Their doctrine tells them it's OK to lie to infidels/non believers.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:22am:

I know your problem stryker......you watch the news. I watched it last night and if you believed all that shyte they're going on with, you'd be pooping yourself. Overreaction.....oh yeah! You can just about feel the fear coming through the tv screen. I can understand why some people are panicking. Here's some sage advice for you fear mongers.....forget the Muzzies and enjoy life.

Too late for that: their Islamophobia has completely taken over their lives.

The terrorists have won, and these cowardly douchetards didn't even put up a fight.

Kat wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:44pm:

Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non- practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare. If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective. OK, bring on the inevitable... EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed, all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture. There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is their fatal flaw.

Good Post!

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:38am:

Good propaganda here my fellow "progressives". We will continue to win the war against Western civilisation from the safety of our computers, lecture halls, ABC and SBS. Only once all the freedoms in the West have been destroyed can there be world peace. This is progress.

Are you really as dumb as that comment makes you seem?

I'd not have thought that possible, but...

Quote:

Most lefties have NO BALLS when confronting Islam

Most righties have NO BALLS when confronting logic.

Case in point, the 109 yr old lady celerbrating her bday in QLD last week. Quotes she's never missed voting in 89yrs and will be voting Liberals again...voting liberal because that was what she was born into, a liberal voting family...see no logic to think for herself, just blind servitude. Some of her offspring may even frequent this place.

fezz wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:29am:

Quote: Most lefties have NO BALLS when confronting Islam Most righties have NO BALLS when confronting logic. Case in point, the 109 yr old lady celerbrating her bday in QLD last week. Quotes she's never missed voting in 89yrs and will be voting Liberals again...voting liberal because that was what she was born into, a liberal voting family...see no logic to think for herself, just blind servitude. Some of her offspring may even frequent this place.

cods?    ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKerbOi_mrI#t=177

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:38am:

Good propaganda here my fellow "progressives". We will continue to win the war against Western civilisation from the safety of our computers, lecture halls, ABC and SBS. Only once all the freedoms in the West have been destroyed can there be world peace. This is progress.

Considering that by far the greatest and most frequent and unrelenting attacks upon the 'freedoms of the
West' are perpetrated by the conservatives, I have to say that, yet again, you're full of it.

You neo-con supporters definitely have some crossed circuitry in the way your thought-processes are wired.

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

fezz wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:29am: Quote: Most lefties have NO BALLS when confronting Islam Most righties have NO BALLS when confronting logic. Case in point, the 109 yr old lady celerbrating her bday in QLD last week. Quotes she's never missed voting in 89yrs and will be voting Liberals again...voting liberal because that was what she was born into, a liberal voting family...see no logic to think for herself, just blind servitude. Some of her offspring may even frequent this place. cods?    ;D ;D ;D

I saw that, she was pretty proud of it too, probably thinks it's another path to heaven. I bet she wouldn't have a clue what Abbott or Newman's policies are and that they want to screw her pension, her free healthcare and her nursing home funding.

Gnads wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:50am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:27pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:13pm: Confronting Islam, yes BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM, FROM ISLAM ITSELF, NOT BUDDISM OR HINDISM THAT ALSO EXIST IN ALL WESTERN NATIONS, alongside Islam ?? In my opinion targeting mostly innocent Islamic people in Australia will do more harm than good. In my view the real fight is with groups like ISIS etc we need to take them on head first on their soil to prevent it spreading into our community any more. In my view we can not have much impact on out local soil, it is a fight that we will lose that way and in fact most of what we see will only make things worse. Eradicate the threat from the source and stop marginalising people in Australia who mostly see these attacks as being outrageous. Virtually every Islamic leader has condemned the recent terrorist outrages we have seen   Yes .... telling people what they want to hear but are they being truthful? Their doctrine tells them it's OK to lie to infidels/non believers.

Quote:

Their doctrine tells them it's OK to lie to infidels/non believers

Are you saying that Tony Abbott is a Muslim ?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 4:01pm: What worse ?? the attempt to be brave, or listening to lefties justifying its ok to be cowards to radical islamists See....this is where the confusion lies, one minute you're on about Islam/Muslims in entirety, next minute it's only radical Muslims. There is a huge difference between all Muslims and radical/fanatical Muslims. I am brave with Muslims, very brave, they do me no harm, however I don't suppose I would be too brave if I came face to face with a fanatical Muslim. I bet I never do though, they're pretty scarce, thank goodness.

A Quote from my post on another Board

As the image said, millions around the world march to condemn Israel, but remained silent and don't condemn violence in Islam names. there are a few small exceptions of cause, but the reality is these radical beliefs aren’t held by only a fringe minority of Muslims.

A Pew Research survey (British Muslim youth: radicalisation, terrorism and the construction of the “other”) in Muslim countries suggests that, “Overall, the figures in the 2012 survey suggest that a minimum of about 46% of Muslims in the countries surveyed, approve death penalty for Muslims who commit apostasy,

Accordance with the teachings of Islam, 61% of British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal (over 70% among young Muslims) and 51% of British Muslims think apostates, people who renounce Islam, should be killed.

It should then come at no surprise then, that in islamic countries apostasy is punishable by death, it also shouldn't come as a surprise that Freedom of religion and free speech is also ban and punishable by death.. yet somehow we are meant to respect and accept this culture? How can we?

According to the  USA today article ( http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/01/07/islam-allah-muslims-shariah-anjem-choudary-editorials-debates/21417461/) Islam does not mean peace but rather means submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are determined by divine revelation and not based on people’s desires

So i say it again..How can "WE" a culture that respects freedom of speech and religion peacefully coexist with a culture that not only doesn't recognise freedom of speech and religion but demands from the very holy book itself Islamic law like kafir, people who don’t believe in the God of Islam, to be enslaved and murdered, unless of course they convert to Islam.

reality is Islam is not a religion whose teachings are compatible with human liberty.

Most lefties have NO BALLS when confronting Islam

Most conservatives are way too interested in other peoples balls.

http://i.imgur.com/Gsqeh5U.jpg

Muslims who do not 'recognise and destroy" the "jihadist cancer" must be held responsible.

The christians, Jews etc, have all Recognise and have Destroy the their extreme sides resulting harmless extreme groups like Westboro Baptist Church (harmless compared to ISIS or al qaeda)

http://i.imgur.com/IjTbtX6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XaPvQRU.jpg

It is clear that Communism and islam are the cancer of the world.

Pantheon wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

http://i.imgur.com/Gsqeh5U.jpg Muslims who do not 'recognise and destroy" the "jihadist cancer" must be held responsible. The christians, Jews etc, have all Recognise and have Destroy the their extreme sides resulting harmless extreme groups like Westboro Baptist Church (harmless compared to ISIS or al qaeda) http://i.imgur.com/IjTbtX6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/XaPvQRU.jpg It is clear that Communism and islam are the cancer of the world.

LOL shhh, there is a 'huge difference' between Islamic extremism, and mainstream Judaism.....don't you know???
Didn't you get any of the hundreds of 'memos' condemning the Jews????

(sarcasm off)

Communism is not like Islam. There have been some very dangerous revolutionaries, and some of them have deluded followers, but few of them enjoy killing the way Muslims do. Nor do they throw acid in women's faces because they are out of uniform.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:50am: Dnarever wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:27pm: stryder wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 10:13pm: Confronting Islam, yes BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM, FROM ISLAM ITSELF, NOT BUDDISM OR HINDISM THAT ALSO EXIST IN ALL WESTERN NATIONS, alongside Islam ?? In my opinion targeting mostly innocent Islamic people in Australia will do more harm than good. In my view the real fight is with groups like ISIS etc we need to take them on head first on their soil to prevent it spreading into our community any more. In my view we can not have much impact on out local soil, it is a fight that we will lose that way and in fact most of what we see will only make things worse. Eradicate the threat from the source and stop marginalising people in Australia who mostly see these attacks as being outrageous. Virtually every Islamic leader has condemned the recent terrorist outrages we have seen   Yes .... telling people what they want to hear but are they being truthful? Their doctrine tells them it's OK to lie to infidels/non believers. Quote: Their doctrine tells them it's OK to lie to infidels/non believers Are you saying that Tony Abbott is a Muslim ?

No I think his saying YOU are muslim !  ;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:05am:

Kat wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:44pm: Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non- practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare. If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective. OK, bring on the inevitable... EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed, all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture. There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is their fatal flaw. Good Post!

Alot of it is a pile of crap, but in the end kat really fails to explain, the lefts bravery in criticising CHRISTIANITY, i mean i remember the many anti catholic threads that had popped up in the past , when the government announced that inquiry in sexual abuse in the catholic, AND FAIR ENOUGH, BUT BOY THEY DIDNT HOLD BACK ON INSULTS ON CATHOLICS, but with ISLAM, oh no no, They wouldnt insult the muslims as much as they did with catholics,

As far im concerned kat just like any other leftie wants to justify the lefts cowardice towards Islam.

Pantheon wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:05pm:

As the image said, millions around the world march to condemn Israel, but remained silent and don't condemn violence in Islam names. there are a few small exceptions of cause, but the reality is these radical beliefs aren’t held by only a fringe minority of Muslims.

  total rubbish, there are just as few condemning Israel in the streets here as Islam (zero)


Quote:

It should then come at no surprise then, that in islamic countries apostasy is punishable by death, it also shouldn't come as a surprise that Freedom of religion and free speech is also ban and punishable by death.. yet somehow we are meant to respect and accept this culture? How can we?

Again, total rubbish. You are confusing some countries in the middle east with the rest of the world. Your posts dont get any smarter.

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 2:03am:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 12:11am: Nothing in there that explains why lefties hammer, slur, insult and criticise christians, jews and catholics with such intensity and without fear, while at the same time tip toeing and mostly silent, fearful on doing the same with the muslims, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And im still waiting That's because I didn't intend there to be. Why? Because your whole premise is bullsh1t. That's why. You seem to think that anything less than total howling outrage at every single Muslim is somehow 'leftist', and that there is something 'leftist' about pointing out that this attitude is wrong. I've seen the 'left' hammering Muslims here many times, and they certainly do on some of 'my' other forums and on Facebook. The difference is, they target their hammering to those who deserve it, not all Muslims. I've also seen the Right 'hammer, slur, insult and criticise christians, jews and catholics' with all the intensity you accuse the left of, but you, of course, didn't see it. Personally, not being into the whole 'Sky Fairy' myth at all, I'll mock and abuse whichever religion I please, whenever I please. But I will first ascertain to my own satisfaction whether it's justified or not. In the case of the current abuse of anyone and anything Muslim - no, it's not justified. I will always stand up for what is right - not what is Right. They are seldom the same thing.

Stand up for what is right, ?

So it right to be scared and cower to muslims by not criticising there religion when it needs to be, BUT SHOW UNLIMITED BRAVERY WHEN IT COMES CRITICISING CHRISTIANS.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah I know exactly what you stand for.

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:05am: Kat wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:44pm: Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non- practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare. If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective. OK, bring on the inevitable... EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed, all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture. There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is their fatal flaw. Good Post! Alot of it is a pile of crap, but in the end kat really fails to explain, the lefts bravery in criticising CHRISTIANITY, i mean i remember the many anti catholic threads that had popped up in the past , when the government announced that inquiry in sexual abuse in the catholic, AND FAIR ENOUGH, BUT BOY THEY DIDNT HOLD BACK ON INSULTS ON CATHOLICS, but with ISLAM, oh no no, They wouldnt insult the muslims as much as they did with catholics, As far im concerned kat just like any other leftie wants to justify the lefts cowardice towards Islam.

You need comprehension lessons. My post specifically states the exact opposite of your claim. Twice.

If you see 'cowardice' or 'support' for radical Islam in my post, you do need help, because it simply isn't
there.

NONE of it is 'a pile of crap' either. But I guess that's just your way of saying you disagree...

And I'm not addressing your BS about 'the left abusing everyone else but standing up for Islam' precisely
because it IS BS, and doesn't warrant a response. Go and have a glass of ENO and calm down.

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:05am: Kat wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:44pm: Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non- practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare. If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective. OK, bring on the inevitable... EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed, all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture. There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is their fatal flaw. Good Post! Alot of it is a pile of crap, but in the end kat really fails to explain, the lefts bravery in criticising CHRISTIANITY, i mean i remember the many anti catholic threads that had popped up in the past , when the government announced that inquiry in sexual abuse in the catholic, AND FAIR ENOUGH, BUT BOY THEY DIDNT HOLD BACK ON INSULTS ON CATHOLICS, but with ISLAM, oh no no, They wouldnt insult the muslims as much as they did with catholics, As far im concerned kat just like any other leftie wants to justify the lefts cowardice towards Islam. You need comprehension lessons. My post specifically states the exact opposite of your claim. Twice. If you see 'cowardice' or 'support' for radical Islam in my post, you do need help, because it simply isn't there. And I'm not addressing your BS about 'the left abusing everyone else but standing up for Islam' precisely because it IS BS, and doesn't warrant a response. Go and have a glass of ENO and calm down.

Failed comprehension seems to be endemic among conservatives though some are good at math. I do not know why it is like that but it seems that they comprehend the meaning to be what they want it to be and manage to ignore what the words mean in the specific combination used.

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:05am: Kat wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:44pm: Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non- practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare. If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective. OK, bring on the inevitable... EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed, all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture. There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is their fatal flaw. Good Post! Alot of it is a pile of crap, but in the end kat really fails to explain, the lefts bravery in criticising CHRISTIANITY, i mean i remember the many anti catholic threads that had popped up in the past , when the government announced that inquiry in sexual abuse in the catholic, AND FAIR ENOUGH, BUT BOY THEY DIDNT HOLD BACK ON INSULTS ON CATHOLICS, but with ISLAM, oh no no, They wouldnt insult the muslims as much as they did with catholics, As far im concerned kat just like any other leftie wants to justify the lefts cowardice towards Islam.

Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'...

I'll bet if you did a survey of all the SpecFor guys over there, there will be at least 50% 'lefties' amongst them.

Find something to discuss that you know something about.

Stryker has been displaying his shrivelled scrotum and shrunken balls in this string for some time. It has attracted worms and flies to his mission.

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:05am: [quote author=Max_T link=1420945532/82#82 date=1420983899]Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non- practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare. If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective. OK, bring on the inevitable... EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed, all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture. There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is their fatal flaw. Good Post! Alot of it is a pile of crap, but in the end kat really fails to explain, the lefts bravery in criticising CHRISTIANITY, i mean i remember the many anti catholic threads that had popped up in the past , when the government announced that inquiry in sexual abuse in the catholic, AND FAIR ENOUGH, BUT BOY THEY DIDNT HOLD BACK ON INSULTS ON CATHOLICS, but with ISLAM, oh no no, They wouldnt insult the muslims as much as they did with catholics, You need comprehension lessons. My post specifically states the exact opposite of your claim. Twice. If you see 'cowardice' or 'support' for radical Islam in my post, you do need help, because it simply isn't there. NONE of it is 'a pile of crap' either. But I guess that's just your way of saying you disagree... And I'm not addressing your BS about 'the left abusing everyone else but standing up for Islam' precisely because it IS BS, and doesn't warrant a response. Go and have a glass of ENO and calm down.

There is no BS too address with mine its yours,

You fail to comprehend the swelling hypocrisy of the lefties when its comes to criticising religions.

AND THIS INSANE IDEA FROM YOU THAT IF CONSERVATIVES OR ANYONE ELSE STOP TALKING ABOUT THE BIG PROBLEMS WITH ISLAM that somehow it will have a better chance of going away,  ;D ;D ;D

Svengali wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Stryker has been displaying his shrivelled scrotum and shrunken balls in this string for some time. It has attracted worms and flies to his mission.

And your mind is really displaying your immaturity and stupidity, please keep it up, i find it entertaining, :D :D

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:55pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:05am: Kat wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:44pm: Christ, there's some garbage coming from the Right on this subject. Here's my 2/- worth, take it or leave it. While I condemn the recent attacks as much as anyone AND condemn the Islamic extremists responsible and those behind it, I do not and will not paint all Muslims with the 'fundamental terrorist' brush. The usual suspects will no doubt abuse me for this, but it's just common logic. Think about it: - Do we condemn all Christians because of the extremists respons- ible for the Spanish Inquisition? Or the entire Catholic church because a few filthy priests can't keep their cocks in their pants? Or all Hindus because some extremists decided to burn some Sikhs? (From Wikipedia: "During the 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi, government and police officials aided Indian National Congress party worker gangs in "methodically and systematically" targeting Sikhs and Sikh homes. As a result of the pogroms 10,000–17,000 were burned alive or otherwise killed, Sikh people suffered massive property damage, and at  least 50,000 Sikhs were displaced.) No. Of course we don't. That would be stupid, wouldn't it? So why are we doing it to the Muslims? Moderate and non-practising Muslims have as much to fear from these assholes as anyone else, which is why they undertake risky journeys by sea to get away. I know, and have known quite a few moderate and non-practising Muslims, and they are in no way supportive of the extremists. Quite the contrary, in fact, they are very angry because they have been caught in the inevitable backlash of misguided and misdirected hate (as exhibited by most of the comments emanating from the right in this thread alone). NOT ONE of them has indicated, in any way, that they condone or applaud these attacks. Their attitude is one of. 'We came here to get away from all that crap, and we don't want it here'. But the point is, just like Christians, not all Muslims even practise their religion. Many go to the mosque like many Christians go to church - for christenings, weddings, and funerals. I've even sat and eaten a bacon and egg roll with a non-practising Muslim neighbour I once had, on more than one occasion. When I commented on the clash with his religion he basically said 'Bacon beats bullsh1t'. Once again: The extremists and the terrorists can rot in Hell for all I care. I have no time, no sympathy and no support for them. I despise them, in fact. But I refuse to tar all Muslims with that brush, and I will condemn this bigoted and basically Islamo- phobic attitude whenever I encounter it. I also supported '#I'll Ride With You' as well and for the same reasons. The insane ranting coming from the Right won't have the slightest effect on the actual extremists, except to p1ss them off even more. But it may well have the undesirable backlash effect of actually losing us the support and sympathy of moderate and non- practising Muslims, most of whom, contrary to what many Rightists would have you believe, aren't terrorists, don't support Sharia law and aren't on welfare. If some (wrongly) think that makes me a 'No-Balls Leftie' then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. I prefer to think that it means I am looking at the problem objectively, based upon the actual facts, rather than letting hatred and misdirected outrage cloud my perspective. OK, bring on the inevitable... EDIT: Was just thinking - the Right's attitude of blaming all Muslims isn't that unusual really. I mean, they tar all bikies with the same brush. As they do to all the unemployed, all sole-parents, all cyclists, all American Pit Bull terriers, all.... well, you get the picture. There are no shades of grey in the world of the Rightist, only black or white. And that is their fatal flaw. Good Post! Alot of it is a pile of crap, but in the end kat really fails to explain, the lefts bravery in criticising CHRISTIANITY, i mean i remember the many anti catholic threads that had popped up in the past , when the government announced that inquiry in sexual abuse in the catholic, AND FAIR ENOUGH, BUT BOY THEY DIDNT HOLD BACK ON INSULTS ON CATHOLICS, but with ISLAM, oh no no, They wouldnt insult the muslims as much as they did with catholics, As far im concerned kat just like any other leftie wants to justify the lefts cowardice towards Islam. Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'...

I don't recall ever having done so. I actually tend to avoid threads containing that
sort of crap, and always have.

In fact, as my post (#86) clearly states (and which you intellectual black holes
seem to keep missing) is that I don't play the 'Sky Fairy' game, so I don't have
a dog in this sh1t-fight at all. So to attack me on the grounds you have is abso-
lutely incorrect.

And if you think calling Islamophobes out for tarring all Muslims with the same
brush is 'leftist', 'cowardly' or is somehow wrong, then YOU need serious help.

Quote:

Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'...

Dnaever

Hey dnaever, your big on a FAIR GO FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS AND HUMAN BEINGS IN GENERAL.


Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight, more so than muslims or go into POLITICALLY CORRECT MODE when it comes to the problems with Islam.

How does your FAIR GO SENSIBILITIES make of all this ??????

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

There is no BS too address with mine its yours, You fail to comprehend the swelling hypocrisy of the lefties when its comes to criticising religions. AND THIS INSANE IDEA FROM YOU THAT IF CONSERVATIVES OR ANYONE ELSE STOP TALKING ABOUT THE BIG PROBLEMS WITH ISLAM that somehow it will have a better chance of going away,

Now you're just starting to look foolish.

I'm done, and I stand by what I've posted.

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:09pm: There is no BS too address with mine its yours, You fail to comprehend the swelling hypocrisy of the lefties when its comes to criticising religions. AND THIS INSANE IDEA FROM YOU THAT IF CONSERVATIVES OR ANYONE ELSE STOP TALKING ABOUT THE BIG PROBLEMS WITH ISLAM that somehow it will have a better chance of going away, Now you're just starting to look foolish. I'm done, and I stand by what I've posted.

Let me help you rephrase that.

YOUR STARTING TO LOOK FOOLISH.

Good, stand by lefty stupidity and hypocrisy on this

Svengali wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Stryker has been displaying his shrivelled scrotum and shrunken balls in this string for some time. It has attracted worms and flies to his mission.

I can't believe these half a dozen posters. I have never seen people so scared. They have taken the bait hook, line and sinker. I can't imagine what they would have been going through after the 9/11 saga if they're reacting like this. As terrorist attacks go it was almost minor, but the western media has got them jumping, there's no shutting it up, very time you turn the tv on there's bound to be a news coverage of it.

What must the fanatics be thinking?.......that got them fired up, lets try it again?

Honestly, in the scheme of things it's not a biggy and personally, I think it's the world we have to get used to and adjust to, they just aint going away, at least not any time soon. There's going to be a lot of bloodshed but how do you stop solo strikes? No one has found a way yet.

See the latest trend in Central Africa....ten year old girls with bombs strapped to them, who'd expect that?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:25pm:

Svengali wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:03pm: Stryker has been displaying his shrivelled scrotum and shrunken balls in this string for some time. It has attracted worms and flies to his mission. I can't believe these half a dozen posters. I have never seen people so scared. They have taken the bait hook, line and sinker. I can't imagine what they would have been going through after the 9/11 saga if they're reacting like this. As terrorist attacks go it was almost minor, but the western media has got them jumping, there's no shutting it up, very time you turn the tv on there's bound to be a news coverage of it. What must the fanatics be thinking?.......that got them fired up, lets try it again? Honestly, in the scheme of things it's not a biggy and personally, I think it's the world we have to get used to and adjust to, they just aint going away, at least not any time soon. There's going to be a lot of bloodshed but how do you stop solo strikes? No one has found a way yet. See the latest trend in Central Africa....ten year old girls with bombs strapped to them, who'd expect that?

I bet you have impressed alot of your muslims friends  WITH YOUR ANTI WESTERN HATRED, that you have expressed here many times  :D :D :D :D :D :D.

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:20pm:

Quote: Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'... Dnaever Hey dnaever, your big on a FAIR GO FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS AND HUMAN BEINGS IN GENERAL. Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight, more so than muslims or go into POLITICALLY CORRECT MODE when it comes to the problems with Islam. How does your FAIR GO SENSIBILITIES make of all this ??????

Since you like to talk of conservatives lack of comprehending stuff Dna, HOW DO YOU COMPREHEND THE LEFTS HYPOCRISY ON CRITICISING RELIGIONS ???

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:20pm:

Quote: Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'... Dnaever Hey dnaever, your big on a FAIR GO FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS AND HUMAN BEINGS IN GENERAL. Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight, more so than muslims or go into POLITICALLY CORRECT MODE when it comes to the problems with Islam. How does your FAIR GO SENSIBILITIES make of all this ??????

Quote:

Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight

Are you sure that I am not a Christian ?

Bet you can not show one occasion where I have criticised Christians.

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:20pm: Quote: Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'... Dnaever Hey dnaever, your big on a FAIR GO FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS AND HUMAN BEINGS IN GENERAL. Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight, more so than muslims or go into POLITICALLY CORRECT MODE when it comes to the problems with Islam. How does your FAIR GO SENSIBILITIES make of all this ?????? Since you like to talk of conservatives lack of comprehending stuff Dna, HOW DO YOU COMPREHEND THE LEFTS HYPOCRISY ON CRITICISING RELIGIONS ???

There are two or three people here who seem to be critical of most religions - I am not one of them.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:19pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:09pm: stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:20pm: Quote: Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'... Dnaever Hey dnaever, your big on a FAIR GO FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS AND HUMAN BEINGS IN GENERAL. Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight, more so than muslims or go into POLITICALLY CORRECT MODE when it comes to the problems with Islam. How does your FAIR GO SENSIBILITIES make of all this ?????? Since you like to talk of conservatives lack of comprehending stuff Dna, HOW DO YOU COMPREHEND THE LEFTS HYPOCRISY ON CRITICISING RELIGIONS ??? There are two or three people here who seem to be critical of most religions - I am not one of them.

But the lefties share a passion of being ANTI RELIGION and display it in an UNEVEN WAY, so you have no opinion what so ever ???

Have lefties GIVEN A FAIR GO ON ALL RELIGIONS IN CRITICISMS ????

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:20pm: Quote: Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'... Dnaever Hey dnaever, your big on a FAIR GO FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS AND HUMAN BEINGS IN GENERAL. Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight, more so than muslims or go into POLITICALLY CORRECT MODE when it comes to the problems with Islam. How does your FAIR GO SENSIBILITIES make of all this ?????? [quote]Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight

Are you sure that I am not a Christian ?

Now you're just starting to look foolish.[/quote]


Im not saying that you have criticised christians, but the lefties whom you lean on in support DO HAVE STRONG FEELING ABOUT RELIGIONS, PARTICULARY CHRISTIANS im just after your perspective on this, since you have posted a few times on this thread.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:25pm:

Svengali wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:03pm: Stryker has been displaying his shrivelled scrotum and shrunken balls in this string for some time. It has attracted worms and flies to his mission. I can't believe these half a dozen posters. I have never seen people so scared. They have taken the bait hook, line and sinker. I can't imagine what they would have been going through after the 9/11 saga if they're reacting like this. As terrorist attacks go it was almost minor, but the western media has got them jumping, there's no shutting it up, very time you turn the tv on there's bound to be a news coverage of it. What must the fanatics be thinking?.......that got them fired up, lets try it again? Honestly, in the scheme of things it's not a biggy and personally, I think it's the world we have to get used to and adjust to, they just aint going away, at least not any time soon. There's going to be a lot of bloodshed but how do you stop solo strikes? No one has found a way yet. See the latest trend in Central Africa....ten year old girls with bombs strapped to them, who'd expect that?

Good propaganda, Comrade. They are scared. That's it, isn't it. We "progressives", however, show balls of steel when we lambaste Christians, bankers, conservatives, CEOs, white people, rich people, Murdoch, successful people, capitalism etc. etc. all from the safety and anonymity of the net. This is progress.

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:25pm: Svengali wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:03pm: Stryker has been displaying his shrivelled scrotum and shrunken balls in this string for some time. It has attracted worms and flies to his mission. I can't believe these half a dozen posters. I have never seen people so scared. They have taken the bait hook, line and sinker. I can't imagine what they would have been going through after the 9/11 saga if they're reacting like this. As terrorist attacks go it was almost minor, but the western media has got them jumping, there's no shutting it up, very time you turn the tv on there's bound to be a news coverage of it. What must the fanatics be thinking?.......that got them fired up, lets try it again? Honestly, in the scheme of things it's not a biggy and personally, I think it's the world we have to get used to and adjust to, they just aint going away, at least not any time soon. There's going to be a lot of bloodshed but how do you stop solo strikes? No one has found a way yet. See the latest trend in Central Africa....ten year old girls with bombs strapped to them, who'd expect that? I bet you have impressed alot of your muslims friends  WITH YOUR ANTI WESTERN HATRED, that you have expressed here many times  :D :D :D :D :D :D.

Not really, they're not into politics much, they just get on with life, but I know plenty of others that dislike American foreign policy, the NSA and more, so I have enough like minded people that I can bag the shyte out of America and its gang of hoons with. Heck.....there's plenty of anti-American sites on the interwebz if I wanted to bother, but I've got too much rebelling to do on the home front without bothering with other nations, although I do sign a few different action petitions from the USA.

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:17pm: stryder wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:20pm: Quote: Of course the left are brave when it comes to criticising Christianity...after all, Christians are taught to 'turn the other cheek', whereas Islam is taught to 'use the second bullet clip'... Dnaever Hey dnaever, your big on a FAIR GO FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS AND HUMAN BEINGS IN GENERAL. Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight, more so than muslims or go into POLITICALLY CORRECT MODE when it comes to the problems with Islam. How does your FAIR GO SENSIBILITIES make of all this ?????? [quote]Tell me dna is it A FAIR GO when lefties love to criticise christians with vigour and delight Are you sure that I am not a Christian ? Now you're just starting to look foolish.

Im not saying that you have criticised christians, but the lefties whom you lean on in support DO HAVE STRONG FEELING ABOUT RELIGIONS, PARTICULARY CHRISTIANS im just after your perspective on this, since you have posted a few times on this thread. [/quote]

Now you're just starting to look foolish

Where did this comment come from ? it looks to be attributed to me but it isn't my comment.

but the lefties whom you lean on

I don't lean on anyone, I am still reasonable stable and well balanced most of the time.


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DO HAVE STRONG FEELING ABOUT RELIGIONS, PARTICULARY CHRISTIANS

There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way.

The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are.

DEMOCRACY AND RACISM EXPLAINED
A Muslim immigrant kid in any part of Australia asks his mother,
"Mama, what's the difference between Democracy and Racism?"
Mother (in Burkha)  - "Well, son, Democracy is when Australian tax payers
work hard every day so that we can get all our benefits..... you know, 
like free housing, free health care, free education and grants to build mosques 
and community centres, & so on & so forth, you know… that's a Democracy".
"But Mama, don't the Australian tax payers get angry about that?"
"Sure they do…. that's what we call Racism!"

Democracy and Ignorance Explained

A Muslim immigrat kid in any part of Australia ask his mother: "Mama, what is democracy?"

"Democracy is about one person one vote." Mother (in Burkha), "But more importantly, its about individual freedoms and respect."

"Then, why is the kid next door, keep on saying that government is giving us houses, and all that.  Because, daddy works, you work.  And I also want to work when i grow up.  Its not true."  The kid replies.

"Is that Gnad kid again?"

"Yeah, well, I am not sure.  He never talks to me directly anyway."

"Well, dont worry about him.  They are ignorant people, firmly entrenched in their own little circle.  Remember those uneducated villager back home?  They are kind of similar."

"Oh! Okay!" The kid sighed.  "Well... I... I just wish... only if he get to know me a bit better, he will know that he is wrong."

The mother smiled, "You can certainly try.  But dont waste too much energy on those kind of people." 

Pathetic  ::)

Gnads wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:38pm:

Pathetic  ::)

yeah, your post kind of was. And childish.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-apShvytI8pU/VLPHVkPR1zI/AAAAAAACzEA/_tRGoMm55bw/s1600/theo3.jpg

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:50pm:

Gnads wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:38pm: Pathetic  ::) yeah, your post kind of was. And childish.

Really? I'll defer to your obvious maturity ::)

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Pathetic

;)

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There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way. The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are. Back to top

Dnaever


Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left, and Ive seen nasty slurs and insults in many threads about catholicism.

Hell during the controversy about the sexual abuse in the catholic church none of the catholic haters in the left once said, OH BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD CATHOLICS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OH NO ITS A HATEFEST FROM THE LEFT. But with muslims, OH BUT THERE ARE GOOD MUSLIMS IN ISLAM, and the left repeat it.

stryder wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

Quote: There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way. The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are. Back to top  Dnaever Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left, and Ive seen nasty slurs and insults in many threads about catholicism. Hell during the controversy about the sexual abuse in the catholic church none of the catholic haters in the left once said, OH BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD CATHOLICS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OH NO ITS A HATEFEST FROM THE LEFT. But with muslims, OH BUT THERE ARE GOOD MUSLIMS IN ISLAM, and the left repeat it.

should I point out now that Catholics are only 1 sect of Christianity  or let you continue to validate your ignorance. decisions, decisions.

stryder wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

Quote: There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way. The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are. Back to top  Dnaever Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left, and Ive seen nasty slurs and insults in many threads about catholicism. Hell during the controversy about the sexual abuse in the catholic church none of the catholic haters in the left once said, OH BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD CATHOLICS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OH NO ITS A HATEFEST FROM THE LEFT. But with muslims, OH BUT THERE ARE GOOD MUSLIMS IN ISLAM, and the left repeat it.

Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left

Never paid all that much attention to the stats on this, I am aware that some you would consider left do comment in a negative manner.

I may have misjudged you but you never seemed to be that religious to me before.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:20pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 8:21pm: Quote: There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way. The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are. Back to top  Dnaever Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left, and Ive seen nasty slurs and insults in many threads about catholicism. Hell during the controversy about the sexual abuse in the catholic church none of the catholic haters in the left once said, OH BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD CATHOLICS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OH NO ITS A HATEFEST FROM THE LEFT. But with muslims, OH BUT THERE ARE GOOD MUSLIMS IN ISLAM, and the left repeat it. Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left Never paid all that much attention to the stats on this, I am aware that some you would consider left do comment in a negative manner. I may have misjudged you but you never seemed to be that religious to me before.

Im not religious, I just dont think the left are fair or even when it comes to criticisms of religion, it just makes me angry at how unfair that is.

If the left dished out as much criticism to Islam as they do to the other two religions, it wouldnt be an issue.

stryder wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

Quote: There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way. The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are. Back to top  Dnaever Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left, and Ive seen nasty slurs and insults in many threads about catholicism. Hell during the controversy about the sexual abuse in the catholic church none of the catholic haters in the left once said, OH BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD CATHOLICS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OH NO ITS A HATEFEST FROM THE LEFT. But with muslims, OH BUT THERE ARE GOOD MUSLIMS IN ISLAM, and the left repeat it.

Yeah well shows how much you know.... my old man is as conservative right as you can get & he hates Catholics with a passion.... the main reason is their hypocrisy... yes he thinks there is hypocrisy in most religions but Tykes seem to hold the trophy  & there are more like him out there. I'm none to fond of them either.

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Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left

From my experience, most of the anti catholism comes from the protestants, and to some degree atheist - but they usually target the whole religion complex.   A Protestant can be either from the left or the right. 

Furthermore, the left criticise the Catholism not because of the virtual of catholism, but because of the various social issues that Catholism impact on.  Take for example, the position of abortion, homosexual marriages, institutionalized sexual abuse and so on. 

The left were equally critical of similar issues in Islamic countries as well.  Its just people like you decided to pick and choose to suit your own argument.   

And finally, is that, what right do we have to criticize other people's culture and religion when we are still trying to sort out our own short comings. 

You know its funny that you mentioned left Vs Catholism.  Because, some of the most wonderful and kind hearted catholics I know are strong socialists and left leaning. And just to let you know that Jesus is a socialist.   ;)

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 7:36am:

re Stryker Quote: Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left From my experience, most of the anti catholism comes from the protestants, and to some degree atheist - but they usually target the whole religion complex.   A Protestant can be either from the left or the right.  Furthermore, the left criticise the Catholism not because of the virtual of catholism, but because of the various social issues that Catholism impact on.  Take for example, the position of abortion, homosexual marriages, institutionalized sexual abuse and so on.  The left were equally critical of similar issues in Islamic countries as well.  Its just people like you decided to pick and choose to suit your own argument.    And finally, is that, what right do we have to criticize other people's culture and religion when we are still trying to sort out our own short comings.

Most of the left do not criticise Islam, because they see it  as not politically correct, they see it as racist (even though Islam is not a race), and they see muslims as victims.

The only high profile leftie i know who has criticised ISLAM alot has been the US comedian Bill maher who has criticised christianity and judaism as well, Bill maher is an atheist and anti religion, BUT AT LEAST AMONG LEFTIES HE FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH HIS CONVICTION, Most lefties dont.

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Most of the left do not criticise Islam, because they see it  as not politically correct, they see it as racist (even though Islam is not a race), and they see muslims as victims.

Again, you are picking the facts to choose your agenda.  In reality, its not just the left are defending extreme and false comments from people like yourself.

Take for example your case of Sexual abuse in religious establishment.  No one from the left, nor people like you are running around suggesting that we dont need Christians in this country or reconsider immigration laws to exclude them because they are pedophiles.  In fact, the left have always wanted the truth to come forth, the real perpertrators punished, and the victims adequately compensated.   

But the same cannot be said when there are reports of terrorism.  All of sudden, EVERY law abiding citizen of Islam faith is somehow a danger and potential threat to society, when vast majority are equally appalled at the voilence, and are law abiding and contributing member of the society.    And of course, mosques are promptly vandalized. 

stryder wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 7:36am: re Stryker Quote: Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left From my experience, most of the anti catholism comes from the protestants, and to some degree atheist - but they usually target the whole religion complex.   A Protestant can be either from the left or the right.  Furthermore, the left criticise the Catholism not because of the virtual of catholism, but because of the various social issues that Catholism impact on.  Take for example, the position of abortion, homosexual marriages, institutionalized sexual abuse and so on.  The left were equally critical of similar issues in Islamic countries as well.  Its just people like you decided to pick and choose to suit your own argument.    And finally, is that, what right do we have to criticize other people's culture and religion when we are still trying to sort out our own short comings.  Most of the left do not criticise Islam, because they see it  as not politically correct, they see it as racist (even though Islam is not a race), and they see muslims as victims. The only high profile leftie i know who has criticised ISLAM alot has been the US comedian Bill maher who has criticised christianity and judaism as well, Bill maher is an atheist and anti religion, BUT AT LEAST AMONG LEFTIES HE FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH HIS CONVICTION, Most lefties dont.

Stryker has strawmans....lol  :-?

stryder wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 9:20pm: stryder wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 8:21pm: Quote: There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way. The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are. Back to top  Dnaever Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left, and Ive seen nasty slurs and insults in many threads about catholicism. Hell during the controversy about the sexual abuse in the catholic church none of the catholic haters in the left once said, OH BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD CATHOLICS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OH NO ITS A HATEFEST FROM THE LEFT. But with muslims, OH BUT THERE ARE GOOD MUSLIMS IN ISLAM, and the left repeat it. Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left Never paid all that much attention to the stats on this, I am aware that some you would consider left do comment in a negative manner. I may have misjudged you but you never seemed to be that religious to me before. Im not religious, I just dont think the left are fair or even when it comes to criticisms of religion, it just makes me angry at how unfair that is. If the left dished out as much criticism to Islam as they do to the other two religions, it wouldnt be an issue.

stryker fills up the internet with characters for cash...

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:28pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 9:20pm: stryder wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 8:21pm: Quote: There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way. The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are. Back to top  Dnaever Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left, and Ive seen nasty slurs and insults in many threads about catholicism. Hell during the controversy about the sexual abuse in the catholic church none of the catholic haters in the left once said, OH BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD CATHOLICS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OH NO ITS A HATEFEST FROM THE LEFT. But with muslims, OH BUT THERE ARE GOOD MUSLIMS IN ISLAM, and the left repeat it. Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left Never paid all that much attention to the stats on this, I am aware that some you would consider left do comment in a negative manner. I may have misjudged you but you never seemed to be that religious to me before. Im not religious, I just dont think the left are fair or even when it comes to criticisms of religion, it just makes me angry at how unfair that is. If the left dished out as much criticism to Islam as they do to the other two religions, it wouldnt be an issue. stryker fills up the internet with characters for cash...

Well arent you just a shining little hypocrite over polished in too much HORSE SHYTE,  ;D :D

stryder wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:14pm: stryder wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:28pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 9:20pm: stryder wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 8:21pm: Quote: There do seem to be a few posters who are critical of religion and a few seem to target Christianity they are not all from the left, as far as I can see the vast majority do not really comment on religion either way. The same people from the left who are personally critical to Catholics would probably be the first to defend them if they were being targeted in the same manner as Muslims are. Back to top  Dnaever Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left, and Ive seen nasty slurs and insults in many threads about catholicism. Hell during the controversy about the sexual abuse in the catholic church none of the catholic haters in the left once said, OH BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD CATHOLICS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, OH NO ITS A HATEFEST FROM THE LEFT. But with muslims, OH BUT THERE ARE GOOD MUSLIMS IN ISLAM, and the left repeat it. Thats bullshit Dna, you know as well as i the majority of anti catholicism comes from the left Never paid all that much attention to the stats on this, I am aware that some you would consider left do comment in a negative manner. I may have misjudged you but you never seemed to be that religious to me before. Im not religious, I just dont think the left are fair or even when it comes to criticisms of religion, it just makes me angry at how unfair that is. If the left dished out as much criticism to Islam as they do to the other two religions, it wouldnt be an issue. stryker fills up the internet with characters for cash... Well arent you just a shining little hypocrite over polished in too much HORSE SHYTE,  ;D :D

do you get paid if you don't say 'left'  :o :o :o