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Message started by Svengali on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:55pm

Title: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by Svengali on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:55pm
Israeli newspapers replace women in Paris March with photo-shopped-men. Apparently their belief is that pictures of women violates female modesty.

Islam appears hip, progressive and modern in comparison to Israel's black hat society.


Quote:
HaMevaser abides by the rules of Haredi Judaism, an ultra-Orthodox sect which is defined by its modesty and rejection of modern culture.
It's known for its distinctive clothing of black hats, sidelocks for men and long skirts and sleeves for women.
While traditional Jewish rules respect gender separation in certain situations, Haredi Jewish rules are much stricter and the divide spills over into public places.
Photos of women and girls generally don't appear in the Haredi press as it is viewed as a violation of female modesty.
It's not the first time a Haredi paper has doctored photos for publication.
In 2009 two Israeli papers removed two female ministers from a photo of Israel's new cabinet.
One of the publications blacked them out, the other replaced them with pictures of men.




Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by Steampipe on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:19pm

Depends what you call progressive I suppose.


Quote:
PESHAWAR: While last week’s attack on French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo sparked global outrage, dozens of people in Peshawar paid tribute on Tuesday to the brothers who carried out the murders.

Though small in scale, the event was indicative of the anger that portrayals of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) can ignite in some parts of the world, particularly in Pakistan where tough blasphemy laws make insulting the Prophet (PBUH) a crime punishable by death.



I cant post the link with the picture of the islamists placing flowers for the murderers because I don't have enough posts.

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by Svengali on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:25pm

Steampipe wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:19pm:
Depends what you call progressive I suppose.


Quote:
PESHAWAR: While last week’s attack on French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo sparked global outrage, dozens of people in Peshawar paid tribute on Tuesday to the brothers who carried out the murders.

Though small in scale, the event was indicative of the anger that portrayals of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) can ignite in some parts of the world, particularly in Pakistan where tough blasphemy laws make insulting the Prophet (PBUH) a crime punishable by death.



I cant post the link with the picture of the islamists placing flowers for the murderers because I don't have enough posts.


.... or because they contain images of women?

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by Swagman on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:30pm


:D

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by Soren on Jan 14th, 2015 at 8:07pm

Svengali wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:55pm:
Israeli newspapers replace women in Paris March with photo-shopped-men. Apparently their belief is that pictures of women violates female modesty.

Islam appears hip, progressive and modern in comparison to Israel's black hat society.


Quote:
HaMevaser abides by the rules of Haredi Judaism, an ultra-Orthodox sect which is defined by its modesty and rejection of modern culture.
It's known for its distinctive clothing of black hats, sidelocks for men and long skirts and sleeves for women.
While traditional Jewish rules respect gender separation in certain situations, Haredi Jewish rules are much stricter and the divide spills over into public places.
Photos of women and girls generally don't appear in the Haredi press as it is viewed as a violation of female modesty.
It's not the first time a Haredi paper has doctored photos for publication.
In 2009 two Israeli papers removed two female ministers from a photo of Israel's new cabinet.
One of the publications blacked them out, the other replaced them with pictures of men.






So??

Two Israeli newspapers.

List of Israeli newspapers here: http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/israel.htm  (just the ones with online presence).

Over 60.

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:23am
We know that Orthodox Jews, whose newspapers you are referring to, have a misogynist & backward philosophy.
But I think you are stretching things beyond belief to say that Islamic ideas in this area are progressive.

Svengali, are you prepared to say anything to improve the image of Islam, or is it that you are prepared to say anything to denigrate Jews?

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:35am

Steampipe wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:19pm:
Depends what you call progressive I suppose.


Quote:
PESHAWAR: While last week’s attack on French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo sparked global outrage, dozens of people in Peshawar paid tribute on Tuesday to the brothers who carried out the murders.

Though small in scale, the event was indicative of the anger that portrayals of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) can ignite in some parts of the world, particularly in Pakistan where tough blasphemy laws make insulting the Prophet (PBUH) a crime punishable by death.



I cant post the link with the picture of the islamists placing flowers for the murderers because I don't have enough posts.




There you go.

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by stryker on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:36am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 9:23am:
We know that Orthodox Jews, whose newspapers you are referring to, have a misogynist & backward philosophy.
But I think you are stretching things beyond belief to say that Islamic ideas in this area are progressive.

Svengali, are you prepared to say anything to improve the image of Islam, or is it that you are prepared to say anything to denigrate Jews?



Probably both.  :D

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by Gnads on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:45pm
Pretty lame post Svengali.

If Islam was anywhere near progressive we wouldn't be talking about all the atrocities committed in the name of Islam/Mohammad.

And photo shopping a picture & misogyny by one Jewish sect in their particular newspaper ............

hasn't & didn't kill/ mass murder anyone  ::)


Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by Svengali on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:59pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
Pretty lame post Svengali.

If Islam was anywhere near progressive we wouldn't be talking about all the atrocities committed in the name of Islam/Mohammad.

And photo shopping a picture & misogyny by one Jewish sect in their particular newspaper ............

hasn't & didn't kill/ mass murder anyone  ::)


The people of Gaza would disagree with you.

The people of Palestine would add their voices to that disagreement with you. Over the last 60 years tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel. Some of them children who were shot in the head for sport.

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jan 15th, 2015 at 2:41pm

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 15th, 2015 at 4:46pm

Svengali wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
Pretty lame post Svengali.

If Islam was anywhere near progressive we wouldn't be talking about all the atrocities committed in the name of Islam/Mohammad.

And photo shopping a picture & misogyny by one Jewish sect in their particular newspaper ............

hasn't & didn't kill/ mass murder anyone  ::)


The people of Gaza would disagree with you.

The people of Palestine would add their voices to that disagreement with you. Over the last 60 years tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel. Some of them children who were shot in the head for sport.


A) that is a complete lie and B) there would be no deaths at all if the arabs stopped invading and the Palestinians stopped attacking Israel.

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Jan 16th, 2015 at 4:50pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

Svengali wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
Pretty lame post Svengali.

If Islam was anywhere near progressive we wouldn't be talking about all the atrocities committed in the name of Islam/Mohammad.

And photo shopping a picture & misogyny by one Jewish sect in their particular newspaper ............

hasn't & didn't kill/ mass murder anyone  ::)


The people of Gaza would disagree with you.

The people of Palestine would add their voices to that disagreement with you. Over the last 60 years tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel. Some of them children who were shot in the head for sport.


A) that is a complete lie and B) there would be no deaths at all if the arabs stopped invading and the Palestinians stopped attacking Israel.
As long as the ruling elite can keep simpletons like longliar viewing the world in these simple terms and accepting and/or disseminating these glaringly absurd justifications for their aggression, the so called terrorist problem will continue and escalate. One thing the neo con's are right about is that we are in a war at the moment with these so called terrorists and they will use any tactics (including trying to galvinise their people through religion) to fight back at western aggression. The vicious and glaringly hypocritical foreign policy of the west is without a doubt the main reason why young men embrace the religious banner and become "radicalized". Australians and American/Europeans would behave in exactly the same way if the boot were on the other foot and while liars and/or fools like longliar continue to blindly swallow the war time propaganda of the string pullers we are destined to live through more and more horrors for a cause that is fundamentally none of our business.

Title: Re: Islam looks progressive compared to this misogyny
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jan 16th, 2015 at 4:54pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 15th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
Pretty lame post Svengali.

If Islam was anywhere near progressive we wouldn't be talking about all the atrocities committed in the name of Islam/Mohammad.

And photo shopping a picture & misogyny by one Jewish sect in their particular newspaper ............

hasn't & didn't kill/ mass murder anyone  ::)


Oh course it is....Svengali/LTYC is 'one of those' sort of tools..

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