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Title: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 14th, 2015 at 9:22pm |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by innocentbystander. on Jan 14th, 2015 at 9:32pm
Somebody should air drop a few million copies over the middle east, the krazy koran bashing loons would go nuts and start killing each other and burning everything, that would be funny ;D
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Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 15th, 2015 at 11:47pm innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 9:32pm:
I'm wondering how many charlie hebdo editions it would take to destroy a mosque if dropped from the air... :D :D :D |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:09am What a waste, if it's true, which I doubt. Nobody will bother with Charlie Hebdo next week when the next world drama is released. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:16am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:09am:
like the waste of 12 lives you mean?>. at least pansi you kind of agree with me... was the cartoon worth those lives??.. I cant see it I really cant.. and now they are stirring up the already angry terrorists.. and they are mad enough to blow up more innocent people..........all for a cartoon that only amuses the few... when will they ever learn... |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:52am
Cods if we refrained from publishing this, do you think that would satisfy the extremists?
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Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:05am freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:52am:
they would have one less fire to flame... you see I dont see the point of flaming this?> do you? do you think it will make us stronger more POWERFUL.. do you think it will solve any more issues these madmen have?? if we keep flaming this? i see it as a fireman putting petrol on the fire.... it will make it worse..... AND FOR WHAT? fd if you can give ONE good reason why this cartoon should go on.... I could change my opinion... ONLY ONE mind...what good or benefit to the world did Charlies cartoon do?.. remember it enraged a lot of people....some very extreme...... do you think they had any right to be enraged???.. did you think the cartoon was provocative?.. can you tell me why withdrawing the cartoon.. makes us look cowards? when you are looking in the eye of evil..... would you just give him another poke just for the fun of it?... I feel we are making HATE even worse....I have not seen one answer to how this cartoon made the world a better place...why it was worth 12 lives... please tell me there was something worthwhile in all of this.. now we have France in terror...even Belgium...was it worth it???...printing that cartoon.. please give me a good reason to say it was.. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:56am Quote:
Can you answer a simple question? If we refrained from publishing this, do you think that would satisfy the extremists? Quote:
Yes. Quote:
No. Quote:
Perhaps if you saw reality rather than idiotic, useless analogies, you wouldn't have such trouble comprehending this issue. Quote:
To protect freedom of speech, and all our rights and freedoms. I have pointed this out to you before, but you steadfastly ignore it. Do you see freedom of speech as something valuable and worth protecting? Quote:
Sure. They have a right to pop a vein. Quote:
Because it is a cowardly and stupid thing to do. It would encourage every other would-be terrorist to slaughter people for political goals. It would be like handing over your Jews to Hitler, in the hope that he will not come after your Poles. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:04am freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:56am:
Yes. so you think Paris armed to the teeth is stronger Quote:
No. Quote:
Perhaps if you saw reality rather than idiotic, useless analogies, you wouldn't have such trouble comprehending this issue. what is YOUR reality... playing with fire sure wont burn down anything,is that how it works.. Quote:
To protect freedom of speech, and all our rights and freedoms. I have pointed this out to you before, but you steadfastly ignore it. Do you see freedom of speech as something valuable and worth protecting? REALLY yet if I use the M word on here guess what happens to YOUR FREE SPEECH> its ok I know you dont want to address your versions of FS>. Quote:
Sure. They have a right to pop a vein. \ AND KILL YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT Quote:
Because it is a cowardly and stupid thing to do. It would encourage every other would-be terrorist to slaughter people for political goals. It would be like handing over your Jews to Hitler, in the hope that he will not come after your Poles.[/quote] SINCE WHEN HAS INSULTING SOMEONES RELIGION ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH.. BEEN POLITICAL??... me thinks it its you that is now using obscure reasons to keep doing what you are accusing them of doing.. to me you are no different.. you crack on about FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. yet you dont allow it on your own forum.... and guess what.. its YOUR version of FREEDOM OF SPEECH...you rule the forum with.. no one else get asked... its what you decide...and you say that anyone else who thinks like you do.... is a bully and will only want more... ::) ::) ::) ::) if that wasnt so hypocritical I would LOL. >:( >:( >:( |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:05am
you answer a SIMPLE question'
how come you can STOP FREEDOM OF SPEECH but no one else can..hypocrite. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:11am Quote:
Here's another question Cods cannot bring herself to answer. Do you think freedom of speech means you can compel me to publish anything you want? I think cods is deliberating misunderstanding this point because she is desperate for a reason, any reason, to undermine freedom of speech. She is doing the bidding of the terrorists. She actually wants them to succeed in destroying freedom of speech. Quote:
Since about 700 AD. Quote:
To what? People who kill others to silence them? Do you loose your voice if you cannot access this forum? |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by tickleandrose on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:41am
I too do not see the point of those cartoons other than to commercially feed off the ignorant. To me, Freedom of speech should at least mean contructive criticism. But alas I should not let my view of what should be freedom of speech impinge on other people views of freedom of speech.
With Freedom of speech comes with individual responsibilities. Meaning the acknowledgement that whatever you say will have consequences. So, for example, if some kid come up to me, and say: green eyes are dumb. Then, he/she can expect me to retaliate by not talking to them. But thats just me, some nut head green eyed person may just turn around and kill him/her. The same goes with Charlie Hebdo, who published some really stupid rubbish of a revered figure, despite it was warned by extremists not to. So, as such, they had to expect consequences. Now, I fully condemn the action of killing people over some cartoon drawings, but hey, the world is full of nut heads. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:16pm freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:11am:
Since about 700 AD. Quote:
To what? People who kill others to silence them? Do you loose your voice if you cannot access this forum?[/quote] no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>. then I will answer your question for what its worth.... we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN INSULTING CARTOON.. AND AN INSULTING WORD... CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS... I LIKE THE M WORD I WANT TO USE IT ALL THE TIME.. M..BUT FD WONT LET ME..... YET I AM BOUND BY HIS RULES TO LOOK AT INSULTING CARTOONS... THATS OK.. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:19pm cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
To what? People who kill others to silence them? Do you loose your voice if you cannot access this forum?[/quote] no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>. then I will answer your question for what its worth.... we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN INSULTING CARTOON.. AND AN INSULTING WORD... CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS... I LIKE THE M WORD I WANT TO USE IT ALL THE TIME.. M..BUT FD WONT LET ME..... YET I AM BOUND BY HIS RULES TO LOOK AT INSULTING CARTOONS... THATS OK..[/quote] You could always press the off button ::) |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:23pm tickleandrose wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:41am:
ahhhhhhhhh at least one person understands what I have spent days saying... its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????.... nut heads we have our share.. but I know we in OZ are safe we have all these people with their FREEDOM OF SPEECH banners.......but only on my terms preventing the baddies from getting to us... whew.. I wonder how many copies of the magazine have been ordered by our bwave members... who will fight for a cartoon. I will be expecting them to be selling never bow to a terrorist T/shirts next....its an honor to fight them.. ::) ::)... get behind me cods I will save you even though I think you are wrong... fine......I will leave you to it then.. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:35pm
How far would you go to appease terrorists Cods?
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That does not even make sense cods. What version of freedom of speech is being denied to Muslims? Quote:
So why do you keep bringing it up, over and over again? Have you realised now how stupid this was, so you are pretending it was never under discussion, despite you bringing it up repeatedly to prove some kind of point? Quote:
Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet? Quote:
It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 2:30pm freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:35pm:
So why do you keep bringing it up, over and over again? Have you realised now how stupid this was, so you are pretending it was never under discussion, despite you bringing it up repeatedly to prove some kind of point? Quote:
Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet? Quote:
It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.[/quote] IF i KNEW WHAT YOU WERE ON ABOUT IT WOULD HELP. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Quantum on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:16pm cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet? Quote:
It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.[/quote] IF i KNEW WHAT YOU WERE ON ABOUT IT WOULD HELP.[/quote] I get it now. All those fights between you and Spot of Borg were all a big show. You are Borg! You have been assimilated! It is the only explanation. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:18pm
many blessings big deal ... ?
just the media reporting on murdoch and kissenger rothchilds et all buying up useless paper saturated with propaganda inciting confusions.. this is observed yet exposed and so be it namaste - : ) = |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by it_is_the_light on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:18pm Quantum wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:16pm:
It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.[/quote] IF i KNEW WHAT YOU WERE ON ABOUT IT WOULD HELP.[/quote] I get it now. All those fights between you and Spot of Borg were all a big show. You are Borg! You have been assimilated! It is the only explanation. [/quote] BORG ! namaste - : ) = |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 16th, 2015 at 4:56pm cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:23pm:
I'm with you guys too. I see exactly where you're coming from. I wonder if those people that were murdered would have kept going with the offensive cartoons if they had their time over again? They would have to be stupid if they did, knowing they're signing their death warrant just to make fun of some madman's God. I'm pretty sure they would be happy to make fun of fat people or ranga's or religions with less fanatics. Unfortunately, no second chances. Emma the t shirts.....I could imagine tens of thousands sold but never one to be spotted on the streets, they just wouldn't be caught dead in them. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by gizmo_2655 on Jan 16th, 2015 at 5:03pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 4:56pm:
Gee, no surprise there...and YES the VICTIMS (which is what you mean by saying 'the people who were 'MURDERED') would have get posting those REAL (not 'offensive') cartoons, given the option... |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 17th, 2015 at 6:00am
Gee, no surprise there...and YES the VICTIMS (which is what you mean by saying 'the people who were 'MURDERED') would have get posting those REAL (not 'offensive') cartoons, given the option...
Getting pedantic gizmo, MURDERED people are VICTIMS, VICTIMS are those people that have been MURDERED, that's exactly what I meant. If they had a second chance they would most likely continue to publish offensive cartoons, just not the ones offensive to Islam. Fat people or red heads don't usually kill because of cartoons. No I'm not a fat red head lol! I'm using that as an example. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2015 at 6:11am
spot of borg???.... what Hitler been shafted???...
;D ;D ;D Quantum wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:16pm:
you will now cop all sort of weird abuse pansi....how dare you think a mindless cartoon is not worth dying for.... unless of course its someone else in far away country.. ' now its bring back Spot of Borg... whom I hardly ever had anything to so with.... .but it helps those who think cartoons that are[ NOT OFFENSIVE TO THEM].... ::)are worth someone else dying for... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by longweekend58 on Jan 17th, 2015 at 7:28am cods wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 6:11am:
you are just acting stupid now, cods. just like the pedo debates, you are utterly incapable of understanding an argument. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 9:21am cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet? Quote:
It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.[/quote] IF i KNEW WHAT YOU WERE ON ABOUT IT WOULD HELP.[/quote] So this is what it has come to eh cods? Pretending you don't speak English any more? I guess standing up for what you believe in isn't worth it if people criticise you for it hey cods? Just run away and start posting it again when you think no-one will notice your slimy appeasement propaganda. Quote:
Pansi are you blind to the implications for freedom of speech? They had been firebombed, hacked and threatened before. Even now the magazine is still mocking Islam. You have no clue what is going on. Not everyone else is so keen to abandong their principles and freedoms as you and cods. Which is lucky for you or you'd be living in a dictatorship. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:49am Which is lucky for you or you'd be living in a dictatorship. duh! I live in Queensland. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:52am
I hope you are joking, but something tells me you are serious.
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Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by red baron on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:01am
Freedom of speech 'is' worth fighting for and worth dying for. Our sons and daughters are still doing it.
It must be preserved at all costs. Can you imagine a world rung by ISIS? You wouldn't have to imagine it for long because if ISIS ruled the World, there would be no Christians nor Western infidels. We would all be dead in the biggest blood bath to ever to hit mankind. And that is why we must fight them, everywhere they spread their message of vitriolic hate. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:03am cods wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 6:11am:
Who gives a fig about poking shyte at Muslims, not me. But for those of you who get some weird kick out of it......do it, but don't drag others in. I do however get a kick out of having the odd stab at Christians (the hypocritical longy types) but if a mad Christian threatened to chop my head off, Id stop doing it, no doubt about that. There's a time to speak and a time to shut the hell up These guys haven't learnt that yet. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:10am freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:52am:
Joking. How do you fight Islamic terrorists, fanatics, jihadists? I don't think that printing 20,000 newspapers with offensive cartoons quite cuts it. oops 2 million |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by bogarde73 on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:16am
Are you offended by cartoons Pansi?
Is being offended by cartoons a licence to kill? |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:24am bogarde73 wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:16am:
I could possibly be offended by cartoons if they were offensive enough. You know the answer to the second question, we're all on the same page on that one. So, they get offended and kill, what is the consequence to that? print 2 million more copies. Will that make them stop? Surely that will encourage them to kill again, then what? print more, then kill again and on and on...... |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by stryder on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:26am bogarde73 wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:16am:
If you are as scared and petrified as CODS, probably so |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by Dame Pansi on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:37am stryder wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:26am:
I've got nothing to be scared of, I'm not printing offensive magazines. You'd like to but you haven't got the guts otherwise you'd be standing outside a mosque with a cartoon banner letting the Mussies know you won't be silenced. Have you been to a mosque since the attacks in Paris? Have you faced the Mussies to let them know how you feel about free speech? You'd like me to go on your behalf wouldn't you, but I would go in frienship so it wouldn't do your cause any good, best face that one on your own........unless you're too chicken |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by longweekend58 on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:18pm freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:52am:
and there is the problem. Pansi is an anarchist. She votes multiple times trying to subvert democracy and breaks other laws and then complains about a govt making decisions that a majority agree with. she wouldn't know what a dictatorship was. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by longweekend58 on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:19pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:03am:
then you don't deserve the freedoms you have. |
Title: Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:42pm Quote:
And you'd go to church? Quote:
And you shut up only when asked to, hey pansi? Quote:
That is exactly how. Do you think appeasement will work better pansi? Let me ask you the same question cods is afraid to answer - how far would you go to appease terrorists? What would you give up? Quote:
Spineless appeasement from people like you will encourage them far more pansi. Why is that so hard for you and cods to comprehend? Are you really so deluded that you think that refraining from printing these cartoons would be the end of it? Quote:
You just like appeasing terrorists? I'd hate to see what you would stoop to if you were actually scared. The Muslims will come to you first so you can give them a list of which of your friends they need to kill, and you can ask them which mosque you should start attending. After all, it is a small price to pay for your own well-being isn't it pansi? If you are really lucky, you will get to kill your own friends with your own knife, just like they did it in Muhammed's time. |
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