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Message started by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:19am

Title: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:19am
Good news:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/three-killed-belgium-counter-terror-raids-reports-verviers


Quote:
Two men dead in Belgium counter-terror raids
Raids were carried out against a group suspected of preparing attacks on a grand scale, federal prosecutor says.

Two suspected jihadists were shot dead and a third arrested in eastern Belgium during a major operation on Thursday to prevent “imminent terrorist attacks on a grand scale”, a Belgian federal prosecutor has said.

The targets of the operation were a network of jihadists who had recently returned from Syria, the prosecutor said, and were on the point of launching an assault in Belgium.

A total of 10 search warrants were issued for synchronised raids in and around Brussels, as well as Molenbeek, Vilvorde and Verviers, at the end of a surveillance campaign that had lasted several weeks.

In Verviers, in eastern Belgium, three suspects in a house near the town’s central railway station shot at the police.

“The suspects immediately and for several minutes opened fire with military weaponry and handguns on the special units of the federal police before they were neutralised,” the prosecutor, Eric Van Der Sypt, said, adding: “These were extremely well-armed men.”

He said two of the suspects were killed and a third was arrested at the scene. Van Der Sypt said that no police officers or members of the public had been hurt in the operation. One wounded gunman was said to be a Chechen who is “active on the terrorist scene” according to police information cited on Belgian radio.

The outcome of the other police search operations was not made public, nor was there any confirmed link with last week’s attacks in Paris which left 20 people dead. But Van Der Sypt said that Belgium’s terror alert for the security forces had been raised to its second-highest level.

Witnesses in Verviers said they heard a series of explosions, which started at 5.45pm, and then sustained gunfire.


also on CNN

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/15/world/belgium-anti-terror-operation/index.html

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:24am
Two terror suspects killed in Belgium 'jihadist-related' police raids
TWO terror suspects were killed in a police raid in Belgium this evening.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/552228/Belgian-terror-raids-three-dead-police-operation-Verviers




Police block a street where a raid took place.


Police are surrounded by broken glass as they investigate the scene.


Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:35am

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Lord Herbert on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:46am
The news has been leaking out of France how the three terrorists had been known to the police and the security agencies for years, and their courts had repeatedly given them slaps on the wrist for drugs and other criminal offences.

The entire system conspired to keep the two brothers especially, out of jail and walking around like an arsenal of Live Ammunition looking for somewhere to explode.

These three were loose cannons of known 'bad attitude' and criminal character who a dozen French agencies and authorities allowed to remain free without let or hindrance as a danger to the public.

It's the same in the UK, and has been the same here. This 'do-nothing' policy of 'wait-and-see' has been costing innocent lives under the sponsorship of governments and government agencies preferring to do nothing rather than stir up paranoid animosities within the Muslim Ghetto Communities. 

These terrorists picking up a gun and travelling to shoot at people is the very last in a long chain of government policy decisions, court decisions, and security agencies' decisions that all cooperate in allowing these things to actually materialise as a terrorist slaughter.

The actual shooting is the end-result of official neglect, procrastination, complacency, and sheer laziness that finally gives rise to a terrorist murder spree.

And then we hear that Australia and other western countries have been letting their ISIS fighters back into the country as free people to foment and stew with fundamentalist passion back at home in their urban suburbs.

Political funk is costing lives.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:46am
do not kid yourself it isnt coming to Australia

[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islamic-preacher-junaid-thorne-charged-after-sydney-raid/story-fni0cx12-1227186708156][/url]

I will wait for the apologists to come out and say this is not  FREEDOM OF SPEECH...

everyone has the right to say what they want... without interference..or threats??.. isnt that how it is???

could swear thats what some are saying on other threads.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:51am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:46am:
The news has been leaking out of France how the three terrorists had been known to the police and the security agencies for years, and their courts had repeatedly given them slaps on the wrist for drugs and other criminal offences.

The entire system conspired to keep the two brothers especially, out of jail and walking around like an arsenal of Live Ammunition looking for somewhere to explode.

These three were loose cannons of known 'bad attitude' and criminal character who a dozen French agencies and authorities allowed to remain free without let or hindrance as a danger to the public.

It's the same in the UK, and has been the same here. This 'do-nothing' policy of 'wait-and-see' has been costing innocent lives under the sponsorship of governments and government agencies preferring to do nothing rather than stir up paranoid animosities within the Muslim Ghetto Communities. 

These terrorists picking up a gun and travelling to shoot at people is the very last in a long chain of government policy decisions, court decisions, and security agencies' decisions that all cooperate in allowing these things to actually materialise as a terrorist slaughter.

The actual shooting is the end-result of official neglect, procrastination, complacency, and sheer laziness that finally gives rise to a terrorist murder spree.

And then we hear that Australia and other western countries have been letting their ISIS fighters back into the country as free people to foment and stew with fundamentalist passion back at home in their urban suburbs.

Political funk is costing lives.



is BAD ATTITUDE a crime now??....

no one can see into the minds of these madmen...as you say they plain evil waiting to explode somewhere.. but how can you stop them??..

you cant lock someone away because they LOOK EVIL..imagine the COURTS full of people with a grudge against them..

blame labor the kind hearted people who dont like calling terrorist terrorists... Hi nice people..

and wouldnt allow the govt to back date the new legislation that will at least allow some of the bludgers to be arrested on arrival...

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by stryker on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:13am

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:46am:
do not kid yourself it isnt coming to Australia

[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islamic-preacher-junaid-thorne-charged-after-sydney-raid/story-fni0cx12-1227186708156][/url]

I will wait for the apologists to come out and say this is not  FREEDOM OF SPEECH...

everyone has the right to say what they want... without interference..or threats??.. isnt that how it is???

could swear thats what some are saying on other threads.



Funny that, hey ?

You have unabashedly HAVE ADMITTED YOU WOULD SURRENDER IT TO FEAR OF ISLAMO BULLIES,  ;D ;D ;D

So whats your point in the end, WE FOLLOW THAT THINKING LIKE YOU, ???

Is that what you going to teach your everyone ??, RUNAWAY FROM A BULLY, no matter how sophisticated or well armed he is ???

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:25am

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:46am:
do not kid yourself it isnt coming to Australia

[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islamic-preacher-junaid-thorne-charged-after-sydney-raid/story-fni0cx12-1227186708156][/url]

I will wait for the apologists to come out and say this is not  FREEDOM OF SPEECH...

[highlight]everyone has the right to say what they want... without interference..or threats??.. isnt that how it is???

[/highlight]could swear thats what some are saying on other threads.



Funny that ?

You have unabashedly HAVE ADMITTED YOU WOULD SURRENDER IT TO FEAR OF ISLAMO BULLIES,  ;D ;D ;D

So whats your point ???



oops thats sarcasm...

you are not outraged they hav e arrested that man....

what if he was drawing cartoons... ::) ::) you say everyone has a right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH>.no matter what... its the principle..

whom would I surrender too... just because I agree the cartoon was rude and insulting and should not have been printed........

why is that surrender???..

if my grandkids life was at stake....I would have no hesitation in removing that cartoon..

why would I think any different if it meant the 12 staff at Charlie Hebdo would  NOT BE KILLED...a life is a life..

a cartoon isnt worth 12 lives not to me....

we shall watch the outcome of the second coming of Charlie Hebdo I believe something like 700.000 more copies  are going out.. you must be thrilled.......

standing up to the BULLIES..

lets hope you are right.


of course you are...

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by stryker on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:34am

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:25am:

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:46am:
do not kid yourself it isnt coming to Australia

[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islamic-preacher-junaid-thorne-charged-after-sydney-raid/story-fni0cx12-1227186708156][/url]

I will wait for the apologists to come out and say this is not  FREEDOM OF SPEECH...

[highlight]everyone has the right to say what they want... without interference..or threats??.. isnt that how it is???

[/highlight]could swear thats what some are saying on other threads.



Funny that ?

You have unabashedly HAVE ADMITTED YOU WOULD SURRENDER IT TO FEAR OF ISLAMO BULLIES,  ;D ;D ;D

So whats your point ???



oops thats sarcasm...

you are not outraged they hav e arrested that man....

what if he was drawing cartoons... ::) ::) you say everyone has a right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH>.no matter what... its the principle..

whom would I surrender too... just because I agree the cartoon was rude and insulting and should not have been printed........

why is that surrender???..

if my grandkids life was at stake....I would have no hesitation in removing that cartoon..

why would I think any different if it meant the 12 staff at Charlie Hebdo would  NOT BE KILLED...a life is a life..

a cartoon isnt worth 12 lives not to me....

we shall watch the outcome of the second coming of Charlie Hebdo I believe something like 700.000 more copies  are going out.. you must be thrilled.......

standing up to the BULLIES..

lets hope you are right.


of course you are...


The cartoons are one part of this.

There is something greater than that, and that is Islamo facist bullies who want to strike hard enough into the western world, whether through co ordinated attacks or inspiring lone wolf attacks.

To neutralize the western world through fear, and it seems they have succeeded through you. and all it does is encourage them to do more since they made GROUND WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:37am

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:46am:
do not kid yourself it isnt coming to Australia

[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islamic-preacher-junaid-thorne-charged-after-sydney-raid/story-fni0cx12-1227186708156][/url]

I will wait for the apologists to come out and say this is not  FREEDOM OF SPEECH...

everyone has the right to say what they want... without interference..or threats??.. isnt that how it is???

could swear thats what some are saying on other threads.



Funny that, hey ?

You have unabashedly HAVE ADMITTED YOU WOULD SURRENDER IT TO FEAR OF ISLAMO BULLIES,  ;D ;D ;D

So whats your point in the end, WE FOLLOW THAT THINKING LIKE YOU, ???

Is that what you going to teach your everyone ??, RUNAWAY FROM A BULLY, no matter how sophisticated or well armed he is ???


just a small point I seem to only get half your post the first time round...then after I post.. the post I answered is different??.. whats going on..


anyway stryker I didnt see the second half of your post.....

my idear of a BULLY is someone TAUNTING SOMEONE ELSE....

and in this INSTANCE they CHarlie were BULLYING/TAUNTING Muslims with their insulting cartoons...


I found them insulting as well...no point to them at all..not even amusing...

anyway the EXTREME branch of ISLAM..took serious offence at said cartoons....and we know the outcome..



you seem to be  saying its ok to BULLY someone as long as they are on the other side...

and when the worm turns....they in turn become the BULLY....

you didnt see the cartoons as BULLYING.... not everyone saw it your way did they?




Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:42am

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:34am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:25am:

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:46am:
do not kid yourself it isnt coming to Australia

[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islamic-preacher-junaid-thorne-charged-after-sydney-raid/story-fni0cx12-1227186708156][/url]

I will wait for the apologists to come out and say this is not  FREEDOM OF SPEECH...

[highlight]everyone has the right to say what they want... without interference..or threats??.. isnt that how it is???

[/highlight]could swear thats what some are saying on other threads.



Funny that ?

You have unabashedly HAVE ADMITTED YOU WOULD SURRENDER IT TO FEAR OF ISLAMO BULLIES,  ;D ;D ;D

So whats your point ???



oops thats sarcasm...

you are not outraged they hav e arrested that man....

what if he was drawing cartoons... ::) ::) you say everyone has a right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH>.no matter what... its the principle..

whom would I surrender too... just because I agree the cartoon was rude and insulting and should not have been printed........

why is that surrender???..

if my grandkids life was at stake....I would have no hesitation in removing that cartoon..

why would I think any different if it meant the 12 staff at Charlie Hebdo would  NOT BE KILLED...a life is a life..

a cartoon isnt worth 12 lives not to me....

we shall watch the outcome of the second coming of Charlie Hebdo I believe something like 700.000 more copies  are going out.. you must be thrilled.......

standing up to the BULLIES..

lets hope you are right.


of course you are...


The cartoons are one part of this.

There is something greater than that, and that is Islamo facist bullies who want to strike hard enough into the western world, whether through co ordinated attacks or inspiring lone wolf attacks.

To neutralize the western world through fear, and it seems they have succeeded through you. and all it does is encourage them to do more since they made GROUND WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU.




what ground...thats silly... they dont even know me... the ground they made was via CHARLIE....they taunted them until the couldnt stand it anymore....

thus far you think provoking the hive is the way to go... or it means we are capitulating in the eye of evil..

I get that I really do....b eing bullied is in the eye of the beholder...

like it ,or not stryker you cannot ignore the fact CHARLIE was warned they would be killed if they kept going........it was their choice.....in this case the Bully thought he was being BUllied.....

what you think about them.... they think about the West.......

did that act of BULLYING keep posting the cartoon solve anything??????...

will the reaction of the new magazines.....prove anything??????.....

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by stryker on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:42am

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:37am:

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:46am:
do not kid yourself it isnt coming to Australia

[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islamic-preacher-junaid-thorne-charged-after-sydney-raid/story-fni0cx12-1227186708156][/url]

I will wait for the apologists to come out and say this is not  FREEDOM OF SPEECH...

everyone has the right to say what they want... without interference..or threats??.. isnt that how it is???

could swear thats what some are saying on other threads.



Funny that, hey ?

You have unabashedly HAVE ADMITTED YOU WOULD SURRENDER IT TO FEAR OF ISLAMO BULLIES,  ;D ;D ;D

So whats your point in the end, WE FOLLOW THAT THINKING LIKE YOU, ???

Is that what you going to teach your everyone ??, RUNAWAY FROM A BULLY, no matter how sophisticated or well armed he is ???


just a small point I seem to only get half your post the first time round...then after I post.. the post I answered is different??.. whats going on..


anyway stryker I didnt see the second half of your post.....

my idear of a BULLY is someone TAUNTING SOMEONE ELSE....

and in this INSTANCE they CHarlie were BULLYING/TAUNTING Muslims with their insulting cartoons...


I found them insulting as well...no point to them at all..not even amusing...

anyway the EXTREME branch of ISLAM..took serious offence at said cartoons....and we know the outcome..



you seem to be  saying its ok to BULLY someone as long as they are on the other side...

and when the worm turns....they in turn become the BULLY....

you didnt see the cartoons as BULLYING.... not everyone saw it your way did they?



Oh so your willing to go on your KNEES for ISLAMO BULLIES to dictate for how free speech will be,

I dont think anybody should mock religion, but the lefties love it, and they would use free speech to express it, even though i wouldnt recommend it, I would defend there right to use it.

BUT I DO NOT WANT ISLAMO FACISTS BULLIES TO DICTATE THE BOUNDARIES OF FREE SPEECH, maybe you would since you are peeing in your pants over it, because if they make ground, they will WANT MORE.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:44am

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:42am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:37am:

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 8:46am:
do not kid yourself it isnt coming to Australia

[urlhttp://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/islamic-preacher-junaid-thorne-charged-after-sydney-raid/story-fni0cx12-1227186708156][/url]

I will wait for the apologists to come out and say this is not  FREEDOM OF SPEECH...

everyone has the right to say what they want... without interference..or threats??.. isnt that how it is???

could swear thats what some are saying on other threads.



Funny that, hey ?

You have unabashedly HAVE ADMITTED YOU WOULD SURRENDER IT TO FEAR OF ISLAMO BULLIES,  ;D ;D ;D

So whats your point in the end, WE FOLLOW THAT THINKING LIKE YOU, ???

Is that what you going to teach your everyone ??, RUNAWAY FROM A BULLY, no matter how sophisticated or well armed he is ???


just a small point I seem to only get half your post the first time round...then after I post.. the post I answered is different??.. whats going on..


anyway stryker I didnt see the second half of your post.....

my idear of a BULLY is someone TAUNTING SOMEONE ELSE....

and in this INSTANCE they CHarlie were BULLYING/TAUNTING Muslims with their insulting cartoons...


I found them insulting as well...no point to them at all..not even amusing...

anyway the EXTREME branch of ISLAM..took serious offence at said cartoons....and we know the outcome..



you seem to be  saying its ok to BULLY someone as long as they are on the other side...

and when the worm turns....they in turn become the BULLY....

you didnt see the cartoons as BULLYING.... not everyone saw it your way did they?



Oh so your willing to go on your KNEES for ISLAMO BULLIES to dictate for how free speech will be,

I dont think anybody should mock religion, but the lefties love it, and they would use free speech to express it, even though i wouldnt recommend it,

BUT I DO NOT WANT ISLAMO FACISTS BULLIES TO DICTATE THE BOUNDARIES OF FREE SPEECH, maybe you would since you are peeing in your pants over it, because if they make ground, they will WANT MORE.



but its ok if you do.... ::)

ok stryker not much more to be said..

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by stryker on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:59am

Quote:
you didnt see the cartoons as BULLYING.... not everyone saw it your way did they?


It may be interpreted as offensive by them, but are you willing to give ground to these Islamo bullies that being offended by them deserves MURDER OF THESE INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM. or you say to these same bastards ITS NOT OK TO MURDER BECAUSE YOU WERE OFFENDED. ???

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:12am
Cods thinks if we appease the terrorists just a little bit they will give up and go home.

Cods this is what the guy was charged with:

Thorne is expected to be charged with two offences – using a carriage service to book a ticket under a false name and using the ticket to travel interstate.

Not for his Muslim opinions in support of terrorists.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:15am

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:59am:

Quote:
you didnt see the cartoons as BULLYING.... not everyone saw it your way did they?


It may be interpreted as offensive by them, but are you willing to give ground to these Islamo bullies that being offended by them deserves MURDER OF THESE INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM. or you say to these same bastards ITS NOT OK TO MURDER BECAUSE YOU WERE OFFENDED. ???




as I keep pointing out stryker..

you are not dealing with the man in the street...

we know that I know that.. BUT we are dealing with something new a new kind of human being...people who are prepared to die for the RELIGION....or at least thats what they think....

we cannot see inside the head of a madman...

do you appease the mad man because in this case he has the upper hand...

SURPRISE...

no one knows who he is...if Hitler or Stalin came into your space you would recognise them... how would you recognise a mad extreme terrorist?????????????????

if stopping a cartoon would have saved those 17 people.. yep I would happily give ground at that time...

to me its a small thing to do... yet a high price to pay if I dont....

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by stryker on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:19am

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:15am:

stryder wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:59am:

Quote:
you didnt see the cartoons as BULLYING.... not everyone saw it your way did they?


It may be interpreted as offensive by them, but are you willing to give ground to these Islamo bullies that being offended by them deserves MURDER OF THESE INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM. or you say to these same bastards ITS NOT OK TO MURDER BECAUSE YOU WERE OFFENDED. ???




as I keep pointing out stryker..

you are not dealing with the man in the street...

we know that I know that.. BUT we are dealing with something new a new kind of human being...people who are prepared to die for the RELIGION....or at least thats what they think....

we cannot see inside the head of a madman...

do you appease the mad man because in this case he has the upper hand...

SURPRISE...

no one knows who he is...if Hitler or Stalin came into your space you would recognise them... how would you recognise a mad extreme terrorist?????????????????

if stopping a cartoon would have saved those 17 people.. yep I would happily give ground at that time...

to me its a small thing to do... yet a high price to pay if I dont....



Your right, we cant deal with this or fight back as individuals, BUT AS A NATION and a people united.

The Islamo facists operate like a globalised mafia more sophisticated with modern technology whether in weaponry or international mobility, than any mafia before them.

And I stilll dont wanna see us as a people, society or a nation surrender to them under any circumstances, or controling any aspect of free speech because they were offended by a cartoon, NO WAY.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:20am

Quote:
BUT we are dealing with something new a new kind of human being...


Are you high?


Quote:
if stopping a cartoon would have saved those 17 people.. yep I would happily give ground at that time...


And then what cods? World peace? How far would you go to appease terrorists? Would you convert to Islam and force everyone else to if that was all it took to stop them killing us?

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:20am

freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:12am:
Cods thinks if we appease the terrorists just a little bit they will give up and go home.

Cods this is what the guy was charged with:

Thorne is expected to be charged with two offences – using a carriage service to book a ticket under a false name and using the ticket to travel interstate.

Not for his Muslim opinions in support of terrorists.



I dont know what you are talking about fd....

where did I say they would go home???...

you really do know how to twist dont you..

please show me where I said that..........

if someone was insulting your mother/wife in the media ... would you ask them to stop??..

or would you say .. its their right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH..

if thorn was travelling under a false name then he must have something to hide...he would be on their watch list I would think..

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:21am
btw fd have you read your rules list...

why the rules if FREEDOM OF SPEECH is so valuable to Australians...??

or are you different from the muslim extremists?

just asking.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:23am

Quote:
where did I say they would go home???...


OK, this is good. You realise that appeasement will not end it or satisfy the terrorists. So, the question remains, how far would you go to appease terrorists?


Quote:
or are you different from the muslim extremists?


The rules only apply to this forum Cods. I am not slaughtering people to impose them on anyone. Nor am I limiting your speech in any way. Freedom of speech does not mean you can compel others to publish your garbage for you, or compel anyone to listen. If you don't like it, you know what to do.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:25am

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:15am:
if stopping a cartoon would have saved those 17 people.. yep I would happily give ground at that time...



The policewoman and Kosher supermarket victims had nothing to do with the cartoons,muslims have been killing jews since Muhammad hacked off the heads of 800 men from the banu Qurayza

Was it about a dozen killed for cartoons?

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:50am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:46am:
The news has been leaking out of France how the three terrorists had been known to the police and the security agencies for years, and their courts had repeatedly given them slaps on the wrist for drugs and other criminal offences.

The entire system conspired to keep the two brothers especially, out of jail and walking around like an arsenal of Live Ammunition looking for somewhere to explode.

These three were loose cannons of known 'bad attitude' and criminal character who a dozen French agencies and authorities allowed to remain free without let or hindrance as a danger to the public.

It's the same in the UK, and has been the same here. This 'do-nothing' policy of 'wait-and-see' has been costing innocent lives under the sponsorship of governments and government agencies preferring to do nothing rather than stir up paranoid animosities within the Muslim Ghetto Communities. 

These terrorists picking up a gun and travelling to shoot at people is the very last in a long chain of government policy decisions, court decisions, and security agencies' decisions that all cooperate in allowing these things to actually materialise as a terrorist slaughter.

The actual shooting is the end-result of official neglect, procrastination, complacency, and sheer laziness that finally gives rise to a terrorist murder spree.

And then we hear that Australia and other western countries have been letting their ISIS fighters back into the country as free people to foment and stew with fundamentalist passion back at home in their urban suburbs.

Political funk is costing lives.



Hi Lord Herbert,
This raid in Belgium is proof -

we in Australia have to round them up & put them in jail
before they can attack us.

Let's call it internment without trial as was tried in Ireland.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:09am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:25am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:15am:
if stopping a cartoon would have saved those 17 people.. yep I would happily give ground at that time...



The policewoman and Kosher supermarket victims had nothing to do with the cartoons,muslims have been killing jews since Muhammad hacked off the heads of 800 men from the banu Qurayza

Was it about a dozen killed for cartoons?



yes you are right....

you have heard of the old saying

killing a bird with one stone..

yep I am sure those extremists have as well...

it was all planned.... ev en they said so...

but you see the cartoon./was the excuse and the real reason...the jews well why not they were close by after all.. and I guess Charlie couldnt have cared less about them either...

we have to realise these guys dont need much of a n excuse...

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:28am
Cods how far would you go to appease these terrorists?

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:36am

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:12am:
Cods thinks if we appease the terrorists just a little bit they will give up and go home.

Cods this is what the guy was charged with:

Thorne is expected to be charged with two offences – using a carriage service to book a ticket under a false name and using the ticket to travel interstate.

Not for his Muslim opinions in support of terrorists.



I dont know what you are talking about fd....

where did I say they would go home???...

you really do know how to twist dont you..

please show me where I said that..........

if someone was insulting your mother/wife in the media ... would you ask them to stop??..

or would you say .. its their right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH..

if thorn was travelling under a false name then he must have something to hide...he would be on their watch list I would think..



Hi Cods,
The Pope would agree with you:



Quote:
Charlie Hebdo:
Pope Francis says if you swear at my mother 'expect a punch'.


Pope Francis has said there are limits to the freedom of expression - and that anyone who swears at his mother deserves a punch.

Francis spoke about the Paris attacks while on his way to the Philippines, where around 1,500 Muslims protested yesterday against the depictions of the Prophet in the satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo.

He said that freedom of speech and expression are fundamental human rights however he added that he believes there should be limits to offending and ridiculing the faiths and beliefs of others.

By way of example, he referred to Alberto Gasparri, who organises his trips and was standing by his side on board the papal plane.

“If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch,” Francis said while pretending to throw a punch in his direction.

He added: “It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.”


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-pope-francis-says-those-who-ridicule-others-religions-should-expect-a-punch-9980192.html

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:29pm
Raid makes headlines on French TV news:

http://www.francetvinfo.fr/replay-jt/france-2/20-heures/jt-de-20h-du-jeudi-15-janvier-2015_791981.html

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:30pm
"You are correct, Your Honour - I do hold this court in contempt!"

-Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter.

Point is - when it is the body itself being satirised etc that has grievous fault - it is intensely hypocritical to suggest it is OK to hit the satirist.


Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:48pm
**bucket of naked petrol on the embers...**

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/aussie-traitor-wants-to-spill-blood-in-extremist-fight/story-fni0fiyv-1227186345523?sv=94a241996181391c37f3362881cb1975&utm_source=Herald%20Sun&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial&net_sub_uid=124479239

"Aussie traitor wants to ‘spill blood’ in extremist fight

    Extremist urges 'spill blood' in Australia

A ROXBURGH Park student, who has threatened to “spill blood” in Australia, left the country to fight in Syria with fellow Melburnian and playboy turned terrorist Mahmoud Abdullatif.

Rahman and Abdullatif flew to Syria together last September and they have remained close in the battle zone.

The pair often exchange social media missives and post pictures at each other houses.

Rahman was also quick to jump to his friends defence when media outlets dubbed Abdullatiff a male “bimbo”.

Rahman, 23, posted a series of pictures of the pair of them posing with automatic weapons at Abdullatif’s home.

“Livin the high life in jihad dowla style latifzz place,” Rahman said.

Playboy turned terrorist Abdullatif recently got married in Syria and asked to receive a “beautiful death.”

Both Abdullatif and Rahman have had their Twitter account pulled down for their extremist rantings.

The extremists grew up in the same neighbourhoods in Melbourne’s northern suburbs, the Herald Sun has been told they flew to Syria with two other men from Melbourne.

Rahman was also a childhood friend of one of the Tiba clan.

Members of the notorious Tiba crime family were locked in a shooting war with another Lebanese family throughout 2011.

Judge Mark Dean said Rahman tried to stand over a witness in an armed robbery trial against members of the Tiba family out of a sense of misguided loyalty to childhood friend Abdul Tiba.

After the arrest Rahman had told the witness: “my uncles are going to go away for three to four years, and when they get out they’re not going to be happy.”

Last night Rahman’s distraught father said his son had brought “shame” on the family.

“We hoped he would never get into this type of thing,” Lutfur Rahman said.

“It is very sad.”

Victoria Police is also investigating a threat Rahman made over social media on Monday. The Herald Sun has chosen not to detail its specific nature."

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:53pm
more muslims, more terrorists

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Honky on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:57pm
Mo' hammad, mo' problems.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 2:41pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:53pm:
more muslims, more terrorists


Arrest them.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:04pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:30pm:
"You are correct, Your Honour - I do hold this court in contempt!"

-Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter.

Point is - when it is the body itself being satirised etc that has grievous fault - it is intensely hypocritical to suggest it is OK to hit the satirist.




thats going to be rather hard for all the males on this forum........if they want to wave it around they will...

FREEDOM OF ART... everything is allowed on this forum accept what fd wont allow.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 2:41pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:53pm:
more muslims, more terrorists


Arrest them.



bobs what if    the terrorists think you are a terrorist and call for your arrest...and they have the guns dont forget.....


Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:36am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:12am:
Cods thinks if we appease the terrorists just a little bit they will give up and go home.

Cods this is what the guy was charged with:

Thorne is expected to be charged with two offences – using a carriage service to book a ticket under a false name and using the ticket to travel interstate.

Not for his Muslim opinions in support of terrorists.



I dont know what you are talking about fd....

where did I say they would go home???...

you really do know how to twist dont you..

please show me where I said that..........

if someone was insulting your mother/wife in the media ... would you ask them to stop??..

or would you say .. its their right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH..

if thorn was travelling under a false name then he must have something to hide...he would be on their watch list I would think..



Hi Cods,
The Pope would agree with you:



Quote:
Charlie Hebdo:
Pope Francis says if you swear at my mother 'expect a punch'.


Pope Francis has said there are limits to the freedom of expression - and that anyone who swears at his mother deserves a punch.

Francis spoke about the Paris attacks while on his way to the Philippines, where around 1,500 Muslims protested yesterday against the depictions of the Prophet in the satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo.

He said that freedom of speech and expression are fundamental human rights however he added that he believes there should be limits to offending and ridiculing the faiths and beliefs of others.

By way of example, he referred to Alberto Gasparri, who organises his trips and was standing by his side on board the papal plane.

“If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch,” Francis said while pretending to throw a punch in his direction.

He added: “It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.”


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-pope-francis-says-those-who-ridicule-others-religions-should-expect-a-punch-9980192.html



at least you replied bobs./ more than fd ever does..

most people I would expect would stick up for their mum....I would hope anyway.... but not fd....mmmmmmm.. he is too busy trying to find a loophole.....so he can read stupid dumb cartoons..

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 16th, 2015 at 6:54pm

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:36am:

cods wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:12am:
Cods thinks if we appease the terrorists just a little bit they will give up and go home.

Cods this is what the guy was charged with:

Thorne is expected to be charged with two offences – using a carriage service to book a ticket under a false name and using the ticket to travel interstate.

Not for his Muslim opinions in support of terrorists.



I dont know what you are talking about fd....

where did I say they would go home???...

you really do know how to twist dont you..

please show me where I said that..........

if someone was insulting your mother/wife in the media ... would you ask them to stop??..

or would you say .. its their right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH..

if thorn was travelling under a false name then he must have something to hide...he would be on their watch list I would think..



Hi Cods,
The Pope would agree with you:



Quote:
Charlie Hebdo:
Pope Francis says if you swear at my mother 'expect a punch'.


Pope Francis has said there are limits to the freedom of expression - and that anyone who swears at his mother deserves a punch.

Francis spoke about the Paris attacks while on his way to the Philippines, where around 1,500 Muslims protested yesterday against the depictions of the Prophet in the satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo.

He said that freedom of speech and expression are fundamental human rights however he added that he believes there should be limits to offending and ridiculing the faiths and beliefs of others.

By way of example, he referred to Alberto Gasparri, who organises his trips and was standing by his side on board the papal plane.

“If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch,” Francis said while pretending to throw a punch in his direction.

He added: “It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.”


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-pope-francis-says-those-who-ridicule-others-religions-should-expect-a-punch-9980192.html



at least you replied bobs./ more than fd ever does..

most people I would expect would stick up for their mum....I would hope anyway.... but not fd....mmmmmmm.. he is too busy trying to find a loophole.....so he can read stupid dumb cartoons..




Dear Cods,
I always support those few enlightened ones.

namaste

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:07am

Quote:
at least you replied bobs./ more than fd ever does..


Sorry cods I missed this one. How far would you go to appease terrorists?


Quote:
bobs what if    the terrorists think you are a terrorist and call for your arrest...


What if they come for your human rights cods? Your children's rights? Would you hand them over on a platter and beg their forgiveness for making them go to the trouble of asking you?


Quote:
he is too busy trying to find a loophole.....so he can read stupid dumb cartoons..


It is not a loophole cods. It is a fundamental human right.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:21am

freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:07am:

Quote:
at least you replied bobs./ more than fd ever does..


Sorry cods I missed this one. How far would you go to appease terrorists?


you call not printing a filthy cartoon appeasement...ok

well if I am BULLYING someone by being insulting and rude to them...my idea of BULLYING not yours or gizmos or stryders..but mine...the as far a s I am concerned I deserve what i get.. be it a punch in the mouth or a bullet if thats whats promised...

if I consider I am NOT bullying them...then I wont budge..

like all things... I work on the moment.. I dont do hypotheticals.... you may stick you your WHAT IFS though..




[quote]bobs what if    the terrorists think you are a terrorist and call for your arrest...





What if they come for your human rights cods? Your children's rights? Would you hand them over on a platter and beg their forgiveness for making them go to the trouble of asking you?


what human rights are they..

the right to insult someones god and make him stinking mad????




Quote:
he is too busy trying to find a loophole.....so he can read stupid dumb cartoons..


It is not a loophole cods. It is a fundamental human right.[/quote]


if I was tormenting a sick animal./.. what would you do???????????

would you ring HUman Rights?



you see thats the difference I see these madmen as sick animals...if they say leave me alone.. then thats what I would try to do... under the circumstances..


hey whats Human Rights saying about the 17 deaths???>..

do they agree the cartoon was worthy of the human sacrifice????????????????


Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:30am

Quote:
you call not printing a filthy cartoon appeasement...ok


Yes cods, that's what it is. What do you call it?


Quote:
what human rights are they..


Freedom of speech and freedom of the press, for starters. Then freedom of religion. Then just about every aspect of your life.


Quote:
the right to insult someones god and make him stinking mad????


That's the one they will start with cods. How far do you think they would take it? Do you think that is the only liberty they object to?


Quote:
if I was tormenting a sick animal./.. what would you do???????????


Oh great. Another particularly stupid analogy from cods.


Quote:
you see thats the difference I see these madmen as sick animals...


That you want to have take over our lives. How far would you go to appease them cods? Why can you not answer this question? Where would you draw the line? To use a better analogy, you are a frog in a pot of water on the stove. Every time the water goes up a degree, you reassure the other frogs that there is nothing to worry about and if they just put up with that one little change everything will be OK.


Quote:
if they say leave me alone.. then thats what I would try to do... under the circumstances..


No-one is forcing them to read charlie hebdo. I know you still haven't figured out the difference between freedom of speech and forcing people to read something. Think about it a bit more before posting more of your mindless drivel.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Lord Herbert on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:53am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 10:50am:
Hi Lord Herbert,
This raid in Belgium is proof -

we in Australia have to round them up & put them in jail
before they can attack us.

Let's call it internment without trial as was tried in Ireland.


Proper internment camps surrounded by hundreds of miles of desert is what would fit the bill. Or one of the islands up north where the salties patrol the waters looking for a halal Take-Away.

And if any of these dudes tries to pull a stunt like going on a starvation diet ~ not a problem.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by innocentbystander. on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:05am
Welcome to Belgiumistan.   ;D

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Yadda on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:23pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Welcome to Belgiumistan.   ;D




Welcome to Australia-stan....





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Persons like this - Haron Monis - .......




.....are moslems.


IMAGE....



.....they are inspired by what their religion teaches them to believe.





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Quote:
Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php





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Australian [aboriginal] moslem cleric, voices support for the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris








Junaid Thorne, an Australian, who professes to be a moslem cleric




Quote:

"...he warned that those wanting to enjoy freedom of speech should expect others to exercise freedom of action."


https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/25931274/junaid-thorne-backs-charlie-hebdo-killing/


Google;
"Junaid Thorne" tweets support of the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris





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Watch a group of wanna-be murderous little moslem darlings 'performing', in this YT,      HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA.

Being coached by moslem adults, HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA.....

Muslims brainwash children in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E






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IMAGE.....


Islamic politician Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, says the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks a ‘cure’.



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Quote:


Islamic leader says Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks a ‘cure’

    Yahoo7 News
    January 13, 2015

An Islamic politician has described the killing of 10 journalists at Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris and two police officers as a 'cure'.

Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, wrote the controversial blog on the group's website claiming the horrific shootings were a reaction to the “daily humiliation” of Muslims and “insults to their book and prophet”, reports News Corp.

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The Bankstown man entitled the blog “Commentary on Charlie Hebdo and the physical law of compression” and described the pressure on Muslims for 'triggering the explosion'.

He wrote: 'The cure has always focused on eliminating pressure or reducing it.

'As a result, it is assumed necessary in all cases to ensure that the pressure does not exceed the red lines, which will then ultimately lead to irreversible problems.'

Mr Alwahwah explained that people are killed everyday round the world and said the events in France should be put in 'perspective'.

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He also warned Australians that insults to their religion would end in violence.

He wrote: 'It seems some in Australia are arrogant --ly and irresponsibly heedless of the fact that provoking and insulting a people’s core beliefs is a matter that can only end in acrimony for everyone concerned.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25980277/islamic-leaders-says-charlie-hebdo-terrorist-attacks-a-cure/?cmp=ydn

link credit to,
The Grappler
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421022403/22#22





IMAGE.....


Islamic politician Ismail Alwahwah, the leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, says the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks a ‘cure’.



Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Rocketanski on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:33pm
God they are ugly people . If that pimply faced rat with the t towel on his head could get laid he wouldn't have so much hate.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:48pm
Dear Yadda,
can you make a more abridged version please?

Does anyone ever read all your posts?

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by innocentbystander. on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:57pm

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 12:33pm:
God they are ugly people . If that pimply faced rat with the t towel on his head could get laid he wouldn't have so much hate.



Looks like they are getting ready to suck some cock.

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by innocentbystander. on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Dear Yadda,
can you make a more abridged version please?

Does anyone ever read all your posts?



God reads them, thats all that counts.  ;)

Title: Re: Muslim terrorists raided in Belgium
Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 17th, 2015 at 2:02pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Dear Yadda,
can you make a more abridged version please?

Does anyone ever read all your posts?



God reads them, that's all that counts.  ;)



He is a bit of a nut & is forgiven

namaste

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