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ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE — Pope Francis said Thursday he is convinced that global warming is "mostly" man-made and that he hopes his upcoming encyclical on the environment will encourage negotiators at a climate change meeting in Paris to make "courageous" decisions to protect God's creation. Francis has spoken out frequently about the "culture of waste" that has imperiled the environment and he elaborated en route to the Philippines. While there, Francis will meet with survivors of the 2013 Typhoon Haiyan, which the government has said was an example of the extreme weather conditions that global warming has wrought. "I don't know if it (human activity) is the only cause, but mostly, in great part, it is man who has slapped nature in the face," he said. "We have in a sense taken over nature." "I think we have exploited nature too much," Francis said, citing deforestation and monoculture. "Thanks be to God that today there are voices, so many people who are speaking out about it." Francis, who pledged on the day of his installation as pope to make the environment a priority, said he expected his encyclical on ecology to be released by June or July. He said he wanted it out in plenty of time to be read and absorbed before the next round of climate change negotiations opens in Paris in November after the last round in Lima, Peru, failed to reach an agreement. "The meetings in Peru were nothing much, I was disappointed," he said. "There was a lack of courage. They stopped at a certain point. We hope that in Paris the representatives will be more courageous going forward." The ultimate goal of U.N. climate negotiations is to stabilize greenhouse gases at a level that keeps global warming below 2 degrees C (3.6 F), compared with pre-industrial times. Negotiations culminating in the Nov. 30-Dec. 11 meeting will rise or fall on two key points: How to divide responsibility for global warming and how to pay to fight it. The developed world used fossil fuels to build roads, cities and houses, and emerging economies want to have the same chances to grow as quickly as possible. Island nations and low-lying countries, meanwhile, fear rising sea levels will swamp them and need funds to adjust. Environmentalists are hopeful that Francis' encyclical will jump-start the talks, and note that the pope is due to speak at the United Nations in New York in September where he may use the global stage to make some points before negotiations get under way. "Drawing attention to the impact a changing climate is having on poor communities in the Philippines couldn't be better timed, given the crucial decisions world leaders must take this year to tackle the issue," Neil Thorns, director of advocacy at CAFOD, the aid agency of the Catholic Church in England and Wales, said in a statement. "Vulnerable communities like those in the Philippines — and indeed all of us — need political leaders to rise to that challenge and go further than they did in Lima." Those who reject scientific findings that climate change is man-made, however, have condemned the pope in harsh terms for taking up the issue at all. Their criticisms are based on previous comments by Francis and recent remarks by some of his top aides that there is clear-cut scientific evidence that climate change is driven by human activity. In an editorial just before New Year's, Investor's Business Daily said the pope's climate change focus was "even more disturbing" than his "recent leftist statements," and that the Vatican "apparently now has been infiltrated by followers of a radical green movement."

That's it all you liberal nutties.  Gawd has spoken.  Bow to your gawd and accept his words.


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-climate-change-man-slapped-nature-face-28240834

It's true, the climate is changing. It's hotter now than it was last night.

Are you allowed to call the pope a leftard idiot?

I’ll have to ask Longie.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:05pm:

It's true, the climate is changing. It's hotter now than it was last night.

I see you follow Longie's sampling method.  Do you also have an engineering maths book?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:05pm:

It's true, the climate is changing. It's hotter now than it was last night.

That just proves temperatures are stable.

Haven’t you been paying attention, comrade?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:09pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:05pm: It's true, the climate is changing. It's hotter now than it was last night. I see you follow Longie's sampling method.  Do you also have an engineering maths book?

No need. I just call anyone who disagrees with me a bigot.

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:09pm:

Are you allowed to call the pope a leftard idiot? I’ll have to ask Longie.

Karnal, it would seem that the pope has become possessed by green satans.  It's the only explanation.  After all, only 30% of scientists believe the climate is warming.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:11pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:09pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:05pm: It's true, the climate is changing. It's hotter now than it was last night. I see you follow Longie's sampling method.  Do you also have an engineering maths book? No need. I just call anyone who disagrees with me a bigot.

That seems totally immature for someone with a phd.  I miss mistie.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:11pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:09pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:05pm: It's true, the climate is changing. It's hotter now than it was last night. I see you follow Longie's sampling method.  Do you also have an engineering maths book? No need. I just call anyone who disagrees with me a bigot. That seems totally immature for someone with a phd.  I miss mistie.

At least I fit in here now. That's all that really matters.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:12pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:11pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:09pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:05pm: It's true, the climate is changing. It's hotter now than it was last night. I see you follow Longie's sampling method.  Do you also have an engineering maths book? No need. I just call anyone who disagrees with me a bigot. That seems totally immature for someone with a phd.  I miss mistie. At least I fit in here now. That's all that really matters.

Come back to us mistie.  I miss you.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:18pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:17pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:12pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:11pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:09pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 10:05pm: It's true, the climate is changing. It's hotter now than it was last night. I see you follow Longie's sampling method.  Do you also have an engineering maths book? No need. I just call anyone who disagrees with me a bigot. That seems totally immature for someone with a phd.  I miss mistie. At least I fit in here now. That's all that really matters. Come back to us mistie.  I miss you.

Mistie’s been working double shifts at the uni after all the cutbacks. The tampon bins are close to overflowing.

The "progressives" wouldn’t know a decent day’s work if it invited them to a protest rally.

The year 2014 ranks as Earth’s warmest since 1880, according to two separate analyses by NASA and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientists.

There are two key words here: 1) 1880 and 2) NOAA

1) so up to last year the hottest year on record was 1880? you mean since 1880, every year has been cooler....doesn't sound like global warming, sounds like looking at historical patten, we are in for a bit of cooler weather following what happen after 1880.

2) i've posted post showing how the NOAA in the past has been caught manipulating data or using outdated data or using incorrect models to created a desired result for "political use".

Pantheon wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:16am:

The year 2014 ranks as Earth’s warmest since 1880, according to two separate analyses by NASA and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientists. There are two key words here: 1) 1880 and 2) NOAA 1) so up to last year the hottest year on record was 1880? you mean since 1880, every year has been cooler....doesn't sound like global warming, sounds like looking at historical patten, we are in for a bit of cooler weather following what happen after 1880. 2) i've posted post showing how the NOAA in the past has been caught manipulating data or using outdated data or using incorrect models to created a desired result for "political use".

Are you at odds with gawd?  Tsk tsk

So we're measuring climate of a planet many billions of years old by the last 135 years....

Whoever said mankind was arrogant?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 2:48am:

So we're measuring climate of a planet many billions of years old by the last 135 years.... Whoever said mankind was arrogant?

... or bright!

The Pope is just a bloke.  Sounds like quite a good one - for a change.  but what he knows about climate change is zero.

He is entitled to his opinion but nothing more

BTW I am not Catholic (for the 1000th time)

Seems even the pope knows more about climate change than Longy  :D

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:23am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 2:48am: So we're measuring climate of a planet many billions of years old by the last 135 years.... Whoever said mankind was arrogant? ... or bright!

That explains the deniers.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 2:48am:

So we're measuring climate of a planet many billions of years old by the last 135 years.... Whoever said mankind was arrogant?

I think it was the same person that said mere accountants salesman and cleaners know more about the science of climate than climate scientists.

I started a new thread on how we have entered a new mini ice age:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421385253/0


30 scientists all agree.
This is the opposite of Global warming.

Pantheon wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:16am:

The year 2014 ranks as Earth’s warmest since 1880, according to two separate analyses by NASA and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientists. There are two key words here: 1) 1880 and 2) NOAA 1) so up to last year the hottest year on record was 1880? you mean since 1880, every year has been cooler....doesn't sound like global warming, sounds like looking at historical patten, we are in for a bit of cooler weather following what happen after 1880.

Detailed weather records are not available before then. You are demonstrating your profound lack of knowledge on this topic.


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2) i've posted post showing how the NOAA in the past has been caught manipulating data or using outdated data or using incorrect models to created a desired result for "political use".

The denier movement is mostly funded by the fossil fuel industry to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars of dark money: funds with concealed sources funnelled through third parties. They are active in publishing false science.

Your problem is obvious.

Bam wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:53am:

The denier movement is mostly funded by the fossil fuel industry to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars of dark money: funds with concealed sources funnelled through third parties. They are active in publishing false science. Your problem is obvious.

The alarmist movement is mostly funded by ripping off the tax-payer and corporates to covertly fund the political campaigns of climate cultists AKA the 'Eco-socialist' Green movement in its primary political objective which is anti-capitalism.  :D

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/aGWT.jpg

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 2:48am:

So we're measuring climate of a planet many billions of years old by the last 135 years.... Whoever said mankind was arrogant?

?  Gawd has spoken.  The pope said so.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:33am:

The Pope is just a bloke.  Sounds like quite a good one - for a change.  but what he knows about climate change is zero. He is entitled to his opinion but nothing more BTW I am not Catholic (for the 1000th time)

What are u? Muslim? Jewish? Hindu? Buddhist? Is your gawd not the same gawd that told the pope to spread the message that climate change is man made? 

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:42am:

Seems even the pope knows more about climate change than Longy  :D

Pope is into faith based ideology. ...say no more.

Rider wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 11:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:42am: Seems even the pope knows more about climate change than Longy  :D Pope is into faith based ideology. ...say no more.

So is Longy, and like a ggood devout christian—he tells lies to make the world fit his beliefs. Trouble is—the real world is not shaping itself to Longy’s lies.  :D http://tinyurl.com/k4kp9uq

Rider wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 11:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:42am: Seems even the pope knows more about climate change than Longy  :D Pope is into faith based ideology. ...say no more.

To a Catholic the Pope is God's representative on earth. If you listen closely you can almost hear the teeth grinding and hand wringing from the religious Right.

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 11:53am:

he tells lies to make the world fit his beliefs

Sounds just like the climate cult

http://austeaparty.com.au/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/dees-climatology.jpg

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 2:48am:

So we're measuring climate of a planet many billions of years old by the last 135 years.... Whoever said mankind was arrogant?

Huh? That comment makes absolutely no sense at all.

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

Rider wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 11:31am: St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:42am: Seems even the pope knows more about climate change than Longy  :D Pope is into faith based ideology. ...say no more. To a Catholic the Pope is God's representative on earth. If you listen closely you can almost hear the teeth grinding and hand wringing from the religious Right.

Is that what it was, I thought my transmission was playing up!  :D ;D

Swagman wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 11:59am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 11:53am: he tells lies to make the world fit his beliefs Sounds just like the climate cult http://austeaparty.com.au/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/dees-climatology.jpg

Pope has joined tony in the climate cult. 

Shocking

Nasa climate scientists: We said 2014 was the warmest year on record... but we're only 38% sure we were right


Its simple..The left is brainwashed..


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The Nasa climate scientists who claimed 2014 set a new record for global warmth last night admitted they were only 38 per cent sure this was true. In a press release on Friday, Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) claimed its analysis of world temperatures showed ‘2014 was the warmest year on record’. The claim made headlines around the world, but yesterday it emerged that GISS’s analysis – based on readings from more than 3,000 measuring stations worldwide – is subject to a margin of error. Nasa admits this means it is far from certain that 2014 set a record at all. Yet the Nasa press release failed to mention this, as well as the fact that the alleged ‘record’ amounted to an increase over 2010, the previous ‘warmest year’, of just two-hundredths of a degree – or 0.02C. The margin of error is said by scientists to be approximately 0.1C – several times as much. As a result, GISS’s director Gavin Schmidt has now admitted Nasa thinks the likelihood that 2014 was the warmest year since 1880 is just 38 per cent. However, when asked by this newspaper whether he regretted that the news release did not mention this, he did not respond. Another analysis, from the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature (BEST) project, drawn from ten times as many measuring stations as GISS, concluded that if 2014 was a record year, it was by an even tinier amount. Therefore it is impossible to conclude from our analysis which of 2014, 2010, or 2005 was actually the warmest year… the Earth’s average temperature for the past decade has changed very little.’ Scientists disagree over its significance, but there is little doubt that the rapid warming of the 1980s and early 1990s has slowed – although greenhouse gas emissions have surged. Bob Ward, of the Grantham Institute on Climate Change, said the new figures showed the notion that global warming had ‘stopped’ was a ‘myth’, although it had ‘temporarily slowed’. Since 1951, he added, the long-term trend was for warming of 0.12C per decade, and in his view, it would ‘pick up again unabated’ if emissions continued to rise. However, if the long-term rate is 0.12C per decade, this would mean the world would be 1C or so warmer by the end of the century, not 4C-5C as some have claimed. Climate sceptics insisted that the new figures showed the warming ‘pause’ had continued. Dr David Whitehouse, of the Global Warming Policy Forum, said ‘there has been no statistically significant warming trend since 1997’ – because the entire increase over this period was smaller than the error margin. Dr Ed Hawkins, associate professor of climate science at the University of Reading, said the past 15 years had seen a slightly slower rate of warming. But he added: ‘You have to take a longer view, because 15 years is too short a period. We expect natural fluctuations, volcanic eruptions and changes in solar output to sometimes slow and sometimes increase warming rates.’ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2915061/Nasa-climate-scientists-said-2014-warmest-year-record-38-sure-right.html