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Title: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:51am

Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE

Google;
trojan horse, trick, deceit

Google;
trojan horse, how to gain admittance, under false pretences

Google;
"Haron Monis", was admitted to australia as a refugee, asylum seeker

While he lived in Australia, Haron Monis demonstrated himself to a liar, a thief, a rapist, and a murderer [as well as being a moslem 'extremist' besides].

AND ALL OF THAT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAPPENED,
1/ AFTER Haron Monis GAINED ADMITTANCE TO AUSTRALIA,
AND,
2/ BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE.

Persons like this - Haron Monis - .......

.....are moslems.

IMAGE....

.....they are inspired by what their religion teaches them to believe.

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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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Yadda said....

Quote:

All moslems are guilty, .....of being moslems, of choosing to embrace a philosophy which condones and culturally legitimises violence against non-moslems.

To those who are outside of its 'camp' [and who are still strong enough to resist its intent], moslems will pretend that ISLAM is a virtuous and benign religion.

But within its own 'camp' moslems can be seen [see, ++9999++] to boldly declare their criminal intent [by our laws] towards those who reject ISLAM.

ISLAM is a death cult, and ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['unbelievers'].....

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ISLAMIC LAW teaches - EVERY MOSLEM - that murdering those who are not moslems [i.e. those who reject ISLAM], is a lawful act.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:57am

While he lived in Australia, Haron Monis demonstrated himself to a liar, a thief, a rapist, and a murderer [as well as being a moslem 'extremist' besides].

AND ALL OF THAT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAPPENED,
1/ AFTER Haron Monis GAINED ADMITTANCE TO AUSTRALIA,
AND,
2/ BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE.

Can I get a reference for these please Yadda?

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:59am

++9999++

Watch a group of wanna-be murderous little moslem darlings 'performing', in this YT, HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA.

Being coached by moslem adults, HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA.....

Muslims brainwash children in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

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AND, witness moslems speaking candidly, among themselves......

Quote:

"What makes Allah happy?
Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."

Please watch this YT...
Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:01am

Again, can I get a reference please?

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:02am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:57am:

Sure.

Start with;

Google;
Haron Monis rape

And then, simply continue on, with the other accusations i made against Haron Monis.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:06am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:57am:

Sure.

Start with;

Google;
Haron Monis rape

And then, simply continue on, with the other accusations i made against Haron Monis.

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ADDENDUM;

The criminal file of Sydney siege gunman Man Haron Monis
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2875816/Rape-woman-posing-spiritual-healer-50-sex-assaults-threatening-shoot-ex-wife-murdered-criminal-file-siege-gunman-revealed-bail.html

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:11am

He was facing charges. You know presumption of innocence and all that?

Plus its an accessory to murder, his girlfriend actually did the deed.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:23am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:11am:

He was facing charges.

You know presumption of innocence and all that?

Plus its an accessory to murder, his girlfriend actually did the deed.

Oh, yes.

Right.

Thank you for that, OB.

UPDATE;

The truth is that Haron Monis was an innocent man.

Who being dead, is now being slandered by that despicable Yadda.

OB,

I am sure that Haron Monis will be exonerated, when the truth is finally revealed.

:)

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Dictionary;
la-la land = =
1 Los Angeles or Hollywood, especially with regard to the film and television industry.
2 a dreamworld.

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Please watch this YT...
ISLAM - THREE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OzxiHfWvBGw

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:26am

Exonerated of what?

All I'm trying to say is making up BS to paint him to be a baddy is pointless.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:34am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:26am:

Exonerated of what?

Murder, of course!

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:26am:

All I'm trying to say is making up BS to paint him to be a baddy is pointless.

Me ???

~~Paint~~ Falsely depict Haron Monis as a 'baddy' ???

Never!

OB,

I wouldn't dream of painting Haron Monis as a 'baddy' !! :P

Innocent man.

And, i apologise for all of the BS, that i made up about Haron Monis, innocent man.

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Dictionary;
la-la land = =
1 Los Angeles or Hollywood, especially with regard to the film and television industry.
2 a dreamworld.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:42am

Yep, the delusion is strong in this one.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Karnal on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 11:45am

Yadda wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

simply continue on, with the other accusations i made against Haron Monis.

Exactly. Haron Monis = Moslem.

Say no more.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Karnal on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 11:46am

Yadda wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:34am:

And, i apologise for all of the BS, that i made up about Haron Monis, innocent man.

You mean he's not a Moslem?

That's alright, Y. You're forgiven.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Je Suis Der Stürmer on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 12:46pm

Google "Iran tried to warn Howard Government" and "Man Monis history of violent fraud as travel agent"

Wasn't Abbott a cabinet minister in the Government that rejected Iran's warnings?

Is Abbott the trojan horse?

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 7:49am

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:00am:

n.b.
In 'the end game' of the Lindt Cafe siege, the police did not defeat Haron Monis with 'harsh language'.

THEY ENTERED THE LINDT CAFE AND USED THE FIREARMS THEY WERE CARRYING, TO SHOOT DOWN Haron Monis,

LIKE THE DESPICABLE DOG

HE PROVED HIMSELF TO BE.

I was wrong, amiss, in describing Haron Monis as a 'despicable dog'.

I am sorry.

My words are an insult to all faithful dogs.

And i apologise to all dogs.

Haron Monis was a piece of human sewage, imo.

There, that should suffice, in my description of him.

Haron Monis was a piece of human sewage.

And i hope that the Sydney authorities ensured that Haron Monis, was buried embracing the carcass of a dead pig.

In fact i wish to propose a new law, be brought into being, here in Australia.

An i hope that every Australian will lobby their federal parliamentary representative, encouraging the Australian government/parliament enact this new law.

And this new law could be titled;
The Disrespect in Death, of all Criminals - Law.

This law would require that EVERY PERSON in Australia, who was convicted of a criminal offence [within Australia], should [upon their death, in Australia];
1/ be required to be buried within Australia [i.e. no after death 'emigration'],
2/ and to be required to be buried embracing the carcass of a dead pig,
3/ the cost of the carcass of the dead pig, to be borne by the estate/family of the dead criminal.

If the estate/family of the dead criminal are too poor, and cannot afford the cost of the carcass of a dead pig, then the body of the dead convicted criminal will be embalmed using at least 10 litres of pigs blood - supplied 'by donation', by a fund subscribed to, by patriotic, law abiding Australians.

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Such a law, would have absolutely no effect upon any dead moslem person, if that dead moslem person was never convicted, of being involved in, or in planning a terrorist act, murder, inciting murder, promoting and encouraging sedition and/or treason, or, any other criminal act.

The law would apply to EVERY PERSON in Australia, but would only apply to the deceased remains of all convicted criminals.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 7:53am

General Black Jack Pershing had the correct approach/attitude, imo.

IMAGE.....
http://0.tqn.com/d/urbanlegends/1/S/a/f/1/black-jack-pershing.jpg
http://cdn.stripersonline.com/f/fb/fb166a4c_vbattach304488.jpg

Black Jack Pershing

In the early 1900's General Pershing effectively ended the moslem insurgency and moslem violence in the Philippines.

Q.
How did Pershing accomplish it ?

A.
General Black Jack Pershing knew his enemy.

In fighting against his moslem foes, General Black Jack Pershing used the the very beliefs and 'prejudices', of moslems, to defeat them.

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p.s.
also read post #14, this thread

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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421621488/14#14

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:30am

Hello Yadda,

Did you even bother checking to see if that was true?

http://myths.answers.com/government/the-muslim-pig-burial-myth-of-general-pershing

Dumbarse

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Hot Breath on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:04pm

Outrage, you've got to be kind to Y, he's a special sort of person with special needs! You can't just drive a car in front of 'im to stop 'im from goin' where he wants! You got to drive a friggin' big truck! That way you'll be able to stop him, dead, cold! ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Rhino on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:11pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

General Black Jack Pershing had the correct approach/attitude, imo.

did it stop terrorist attacks? Because there is one sentence in that article you posted which is an obvious direct lie that a child could see through. Can you guess what it is?

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:12pm

Yadda wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:57am:

Sure.

Start with;

Google;
Haron Monis rape

Google:

You know someone has lost an argument, when they tell you to look for their "evidence" for them.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Happy Lucky on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:12pm

So when are the people responsible for letting this piece of trash into the country going to put their hands up and take responsibility?

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Rhino on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:14pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:12pm:

So when are the people responsible for letting this piece of trash into the country going to put their hands up and take responsibility?

as soon as your parents put their hands up for not using a condom./

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:18pm

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:11pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

General Black Jack Pershing had the correct approach/attitude, imo.

did it stop terrorist attacks? Because there is one sentence in that article you posted which is an obvious direct lie that a child could see through. Can you guess what it is?

Well the entire paragraph about executing Muslim terrorists is a lie. From all accounts, Pershing tried his damndest to find peaceful solutions to the issue, including granting land to the Moro community for the construction of mosques. So maybe he is an example we should follow, just following what he really did, not what this picture says he did.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Stratos on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:17pm

That ninth commandment is ever so bothersome isn't it Yadda.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:24pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:30am:

Hello Yadda,

Did you even bother checking to see if that was true?

http://myths.answers.com/government/the-muslim-pig-burial-myth-of-general-pershing

Dumbarse

Outrage Bus,

If the account of General Black Jack Pershing, burying moslem combatants with dead pigs and their intestines is a fable, then -------->

Google;
why would peaceful muslims object to burying the Charlie Hebdo attackers with pig carcasses

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http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2015/01/10/why-would-the-media-object-to-burying-the-charlie-hebdo-attackers-in-pig-carcasses/

It stands to reason that burying extremists who are NOT-moslems, in the pose of embracing the carcass of a dead pig, is of no concern to real moslems.

Why so ?

Why do i believe this ?

Because the 'moderate moslems' who live among us, effusively declare - TO ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN - that moslem extremists who are engaging in violent atrocities, are not in fact moslems at all!

And the 'moderate moslems' who live among us, effusively declare that those NOT-moslems [who have joined e.g. ISIS], are bringing peace-loving ISLAM and real moslems into disrepute.

So they [the 'moderate moslems' who live among us] spit on them [those NOT-moslems who have joined e.g. ISIS]!!!!

So then, let us bury those NOT-moslem extremists with the embrace of a dead pig.

Because real moslems do not care, how we treat the bodies of fellow infidels [i.e. those NOT-moslems [who have joined e.g. ISIS], and are bringing peace-loving ISLAM and the name of real moslems into disrepute].

:P

See, its a win-win!!

Lets bury EVERY murderous ^%$#@!-ers that are dead, with dead pigs.

And lets start with Haron Monis !!!!

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Rhino on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:28pm

the dead pig thing is just stupid bull sh!t. Childish to beleive it and childish to repeat it. Carry on.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:30pm

Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Reply #24 - Today at 1:24pm Quote
The Outrage Bus wrote Today at 8:30am:
Hello Yadda,

Did you even bother checking to see if that was true?

http://myths.answers.com/government/the-muslim-pig-burial-myth-of-general-pershing

Dumbarse

Outrage Bus,

If the account of General Black Jack Pershing, burying moslem combatants with dead pigs and their intestines is a fable, then -------->

Google;
why would peaceful muslims object to burying the Charlie Hebdo attackers with pig carcasses

Who knows? I'm not concerned with that. All I know is theres no evidence Pershing did what you stated.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:35pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2015/01/10/why-would-the-media-object-to-burying-the-charlie-hebdo-attackers-in-pig-carcasses/

You do also realise this article, has several flaws.

1. Theres no references to any of the "media outrage". Theres a couple of tweets from people posting pretty stupid things, but no media outrage.
2. Its media outrage, not muslim outrage. Slight difference.
3. Even if muslims today objected to it, its still not evidence that Pershing did it.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:43pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:17pm:

That ninth commandment is ever so bothersome isn't it Yadda.

Perish the thought.

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Quote:

Yet another account, from the 1938 book Jungle Patrol, attributes the deed to someone other than Pershing:

It was Colonel Alexander Rodgers of the 6th Cavalry who accomplished by taking advantage of religious prejudice what the bayonets and Krags had been unable to accomplish.

Rodgers inaugurated a system of burying all dead juramentados in a common grave with the carcasses of slaughtered pigs.

The Mohammedan religion forbids contact with pork; and this relatively simple device resulted in the withdrawal of juramentados to sections not containing a Rodgers.

Other officers took up the principle, adding new refinements to make it additionally unattractive to the Moros.

In some sections the Moro juramentado was beheaded after death and the head sewn inside the carcass of a pig.

And so the rite of running juramentado, at least semi-religious in character, ceased to be in Sulu.

The last cases of this religious mania occurred in the early decades of the century.

The juramentados were replaced by the amucks ... who were simply homicidal maniacs with no religious significance attaching to their acts.

We haven't eliminated the possibility that Pershing at some point chose to deal with a group of "Mohammedan fanatics" in a manner similar to the one described above, but so far all we've turned up are several different accounts with nothing that documents Pershing's involvement.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:46pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:43pm:

Stratos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:17pm:

That ninth commandment is ever so bothersome isn't it Yadda.

Perish the thought.

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Quote:

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp

Umm you do realise Snopes is an urban legend site. Even by the cut and paste you put in, they've stated that they have no evidence other than anecdotes (years after Pershing died) that he did it.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:47pm

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

the dead pig thing is just stupid bull sh!t. Childish to beleive it and childish to repeat it. Carry on.

Yes Rhino,

Just keep declaring that this idea is really stupid and offensive to you.

;D

I think we can all see the underlying motive, in trying to kill such an idea.

;)

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:48pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

the dead pig thing is just stupid bull sh!t. Childish to beleive it and childish to repeat it. Carry on.

Yes Rhino,

Just keep declaring that this idea is really stupid and offensive to you.

;D

I think we can all see your motive, in trying to kill such an idea.

;)

Yes damn you Rhino for trying to introduce facts into this.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:51pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

the dead pig thing is just stupid bull sh!t. Childish to beleive it and childish to repeat it. Carry on.

Yes Rhino,

Just keep declaring that this idea is really stupid and offensive to you.

;D

I think we can all see the underlying motive, in trying to kill such an idea.

;)

Yes damn you Rhino for trying to introduce facts into this.

Facts ???

What facts did Rhino bring to this discussion ?

Outrage Bus,

Please give us some facts, .....tell us all, .......why don't you like pigs very much ?

Hmmmmmmm?

;D

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:53pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

the dead pig thing is just stupid bull sh!t. Childish to beleive it and childish to repeat it. Carry on.

Yes Rhino,

Just keep declaring that this idea is really stupid and offensive to you.

;D

I think we can all see the underlying motive, in trying to kill such an idea.

;)

Yes damn you Rhino for trying to introduce facts into this.

Facts ???

What facts did Rhino bring to this discussion ?

None, he's just trying to correct your "facts"

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:57pm

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Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:58pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

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Ummm, ok. How does this relate to Black Jack Pershing?

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:58pm

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Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:01pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

IMAGE....

Again.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:01pm

IMAGE....

ALL OF THESE PIGS ARE LOOKING FOR A 'FINAL HOME', LYING ATOP NOT-MOSLEM EXTREMISTS IN THEIR GRAVES.

ETERNITY, LAYING IN YOU GRAVE WITH A SWINE.

PARADISE!!!! ::)

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Rhino on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:04pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

the dead pig thing is just stupid bull sh!t. Childish to beleive it and childish to repeat it. Carry on.

Yes Rhino,

Just keep declaring that this idea is really stupid and offensive to you.

;D

I think we can all see the underlying motive, in trying to kill such an idea.

;)

Obviously I didnt make myself clear, its not offensive to me, i just find it childishly stupid.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:04pm

I think why bother looking for insanity in a Muslim extremist, when we have Yadda to study

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Stratos on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:39pm

Yadda, I know you seem to think everyone not as frothing at the mouth as you is some kind of undercover Muslim, but throwing pigs at the forum probably won't do anything.

There are so many genuine atrocities committed by islamic extremists that I'm frankly amazed you resort to "bearing false witness" to try and score points.

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:43pm:

Perish the thought.

Oh, and maybe read your sources before posting them lest they tell the exact opposite of what you wanted to say.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Happy Lucky on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:45pm

On Monday, a leadership spill motion was defeated 61-39 in a Liberal party room meeting in Canberra.

All the rabid lefties on here certainly got that wrong.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:47pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:45pm:

On Monday, a leadership spill motion was defeated 61-39 in a Liberal party room meeting in Canberra.

All the rabid lefties on here certainly got that wrong.

All?

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Hot Breath on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 3:14pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:47pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:45pm:

On Monday, a leadership spill motion was defeated 61-39 in a Liberal party room meeting in Canberra.

All the rabid lefties on here certainly got that wrong.

All?

Sorry, can't quite see the relevance of Abbott's leadership woes and Yadda's thread woes. Care to enlighten us? :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 3:23pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:45pm:

On Monday, a leadership spill motion was defeated 61-39 in a Liberal party room meeting in Canberra.

All the rabid lefties on here certainly got that wrong.

No, that's simply not true.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:05pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Yadda, I know you seem to think everyone not as frothing at the mouth as you is some kind of undercover Muslim, but throwing pigs at the forum probably won't do anything.

There are so many genuine atrocities committed by islamic extremists that

I'm frankly amazed you resort to "bearing false witness" to try and score points.

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:43pm:

Perish the thought.

Stratos,

'I'm frankly amazed' at your lack of English Comprehension.

ENGLISH COMPREHENSION; FAIL

I will try once again;

A 2nd source.....

Quote:

........quoting from Jungle Patrol: A Story of the Philippine Constabulary, by Vic Hurley (1938), suggests that the tale may have a basis in fact. However, Hurley says the practice originated with a Col. Rogers, not Pershing himself:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=93193

As is ALSO suggested in my quote from the Snopes site.

see my post, this thread;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421621488/28#28iStratos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Oh, and maybe read your sources before posting them lest they tell the exact opposite of what you wanted to say.

No it didn't.

Again;

As is ALSO suggested in my quote from the Snopes site.

see my post, this thread;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421621488/28#28

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:19pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

Umm you do realise Snopes is an urban legend site.

Even by the cut and paste you put in, they've stated that they have no evidence other than anecdotes (years after Pershing died) that he did it.

Outrage Bus,

Other sites suggest that the practice attributed to General Black Jack Pershing, may not have originated with General Black Jack Pershing.

But that the practice [of killing moslem combatants, and burying them with the body parts of pigs] 'had a basis in fact', though the practice may have originated with another US military figure who also served in the Philippines, Colonel Rodgers of the 6th Cavalry....

Quote:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=93193

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:26pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

.....the practice [of killing moslem combatants, and burying them with the body parts of pigs] 'had a basis in fact', though the practice may have originated with another US military figure who also served in the Philippines, Colonel Rodgers of the 6th Cavalry....

And again!!!!!

I would desperately like this practice to be applied to the remains of the Lindt Cafe atrocity killer, Haron Monis.

.

Lets restart this practice again, and lets start by applying this 'offensive' practice to the remains of the Lindt Cafe killer, Haron Monis !!!!

image.....

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Rhino on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:57pm

for what reason? Will the dead pig revive the dead hostages?

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Stratos on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:59pm

There is no evidence to suggest it ever happened Yadda.

If there is please provide it.

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

Lets restart this practice again, and lets start by applying this 'offensive' practice to the remains of the Lindt Cafe killer, Haron Monis !!!!

What exactly do you think this would accomplish? I mean, according to Islamic scripture in both the Koran and Hadith suicide results in damnation but that hasn't stopped nutcases from doing that, so I fail to see what this would accomplish.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by Yadda on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:15am

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

for what reason?

Will the dead pig revive the dead hostages?

Rhino,

Because Australians, including myself, want to have the occasion to demonstrate our deep disrespect for Haron Monis in death.

Because in life, Haron Monis was person who resoundingly showed utter disrespect for the culture and the laws of my nation, Australia!

Because Haron Monis showed utter disrespect for Australia and Australians, the nation and the people who [mistakenly!] chose to give sanctuary, and a home to Haron Monis - a supposed refugee and 'asylum seeker'!

Because i want Australians, including myself, to be able to demonstrate our deep disrespect for Haron Monis in death, .......because in life Haron Monis 'demonstrated himself to be a liar, a thief, a rapist, and a murderer [as well as being a moslem 'extremist' besides]'.

image.....

Because Haron Monis was the product of a culture which despises the close proximity of an animal such as a pig.

So yes, LETS DEMONSTRATE our utter disrespect - AS AUSTRALIANS - for the life of the criminal and murderer Haron Monis

Lets disinter the body of Haron Monis, and rebury him, in the embrace of the body of a dead pig.

I would desperately like this practice to be applied to the remains of the Lindt Cafe atrocity killer, Haron Monis.

So yes;

Lets restart this practice again, and lets start by applying this 'offensive' practice to the remains of the Lindt Cafe killer, Haron Monis !!!!

And maybe the French will decide to do the same to the Charlie Hebdo killers, too ?

+++

Haron Monis was the product of a culture which despises our Australian 'secular' laws, because our Australian 'secular' laws do not protect moslems from prosecution, when a moslem engages in criminal behaviour.

Haron Monis was a man who was angry that his criminal behaviour in Australia, was not protected by Sharia law.

Haron Monis was a man who was angry that Sharia law had no force in Australia, to protect him.

Haron Monis was the product of a culture whose laws, make it lawful for a moslem to commit criminal acts [by our law] against persons who do not believe as moslems believe.

e.g.
ISLAM makes it lawful, for a moslem to murder an 'infidel', for the glory of Allah and his cause.

Such a criminal act [by our law] is not unlawful in ISLAMIC law.

In fact such killings are praised by ISLAM, and ISLAMIC law.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by HooYAY its FriYAY on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:15am

The bloke was a coward and will go down as a coward.

It's a pity no one had the guts to slam a bullet into his ugly smacking head sooner.

Title: Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Post by The Outrage Bus on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:30am

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:15am:

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

for what reason?

Will the dead pig revive the dead hostages?

Actually if you read the lead up and reaction, the muslim community knew this guy was batshit crazy.