Reading this article it's quite apparent our government is re-badging our ISIS recruits as victims of their own folly, instead of describing them as the worst sort of enemies of western civilisation to appear since WWII.

It's the same old soft-cock, cheese-eating appeasement approach that avoids upsetting the paranoid sensitivities of our Muslim community.

"The Federal Government says it is worried an increasing number of Australian teenagers and young women are travelling to the Middle East to fight on behalf of Islamic State.

Attorney-General George Brandis said the total number of Australians thought to be involved in the conflict was now around 90, up from roughly 75 late last year".

"Australians found to be illegally visiting the region could face up to 10 years in prison".

Pig's arse.

This will never happen.

And these new recruits know they have nothing to fear from the weak bastards who are our politicians and who work in the judiciary.

It's why recruitment numbers have increased, with them having no fear of being prevented from returning to Australia to enjoy the sort of life and privileges that ISIS wants to destroy.

Our leadership is a pathetic travesty that these recruits very correctly identify as being composed of limp-dicked appeasers who don't have the guts or the balls to pass legislation that would make joining ISIS a ticket to never being allowed to re-enter Australia again.

None of these recruits should be allowed to live in any western country ever again.

link 

Meanwhile, Britain's Communist Party (the Greens) ...

"Natalie Bennett said people should not be punished for what they think and stressed it should 'not be a crime simply to belong to an organisation'

More than 600 people from Britain are thought to have travelled to Syria and Iraq to join jihadists, with security forces warning returning fighters pose the biggest terror threat to Britain".

link

Worst enemies of Western civilization since WWII?

Good heavens, Herbie, I hope you’re not saying the Nazis were the enemy. You’ve been.calling for the return of Hitler here for years.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 6:10am:

Reading this article it's quite apparent our government is re-badging our ISIS recruits as victims of their own folly, instead of describing them as the worst sort of enemies of western civilisation to appear since WWII. It's the same old soft-cock, cheese-eating appeasement approach that avoids upsetting the paranoid sensitivities of our Muslim community. "The Federal Government says it is worried an increasing number of Australian teenagers and young women are travelling to the Middle East to fight on behalf of Islamic State. Attorney-General George Brandis said the total number of Australians thought to be involved in the conflict was now around 90, up from roughly 75 late last year". "Australians found to be illegally visiting the region could face up to 10 years in prison". Pig's arse. This will never happen. And these new recruits know they have nothing to fear from the weak bastards who are our politicians and who work in the judiciary. It's why recruitment numbers have increased, with them having no fear of being prevented from returning to Australia to enjoy the sort of life and privileges that ISIS wants to destroy. Our leadership is a pathetic travesty that these recruits very correctly identify as being composed of limp-dicked appeasers who don't have the guts or the balls to pass legislation that would make joining ISIS a ticket to never being allowed to re-enter Australia again. None of these recruits should be allowed to live in any western country ever again. link

Is there any chance of this option being actively 'prosecuted', 'in deed'   [.....if they ever return] ?

Nah.

Tony Abbott would never allow it.






Tony Abbott would rather tolerate UNLAWFUL scenes like this, on the streets of Australian cities.....


Persons like this - Haron Monis - .......

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2014/12/16/1227157/400913-624365d8-8461-11e4-a702-553dc58650c9.jpg

.....are moslems.


IMAGE....
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/27/1227038/812722-d0870956-2cc7-11e4-a978-2255e0b773c2.jpg


.....they are inspired by what their religion teaches them to believe.



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Where is Tony-missing-in-action-Abbott ???
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421158879/4#4






"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
Karl Popper


"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
Thomas Mann

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 6:10am:

Reading this article it's quite apparent our government is re-badging our ISIS recruits as victims of their own folly, instead of describing them as the worst sort of enemies of western civilisation to appear since WWII. It's the same old soft-cock, cheese-eating appeasement approach that avoids upsetting the paranoid sensitivities of our Muslim community. "The Federal Government says it is worried an increasing number of Australian teenagers and young women are travelling to the Middle East to fight on behalf of Islamic State. Attorney-General George Brandis said the total number of Australians thought to be involved in the conflict was now around 90, up from roughly 75 late last year". "Australians found to be illegally visiting the region could face up to 10 years in prison". Pig's arse. This will never happen. And these new recruits know they have nothing to fear from the weak bastards who are our politicians and who work in the judiciary. It's why recruitment numbers have increased, with them having no fear of being prevented from returning to Australia to enjoy the sort of life and privileges that ISIS wants to destroy. Our leadership is a pathetic travesty that these recruits very correctly identify as being composed of limp-dicked appeasers who don't have the guts or the balls to pass legislation that would make joining ISIS a ticket to never being allowed to re-enter Australia again. None of these recruits should be allowed to live in any western country ever again. link

You cant just arrest people if the goverment has no proof that people have gone to syria.

wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

You cant just arrest people if the goverment has no proof that people have gone to syria.

True.

So we should have our own spy network over there.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 7:01pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 5:09pm: You cant just arrest people if the goverment has no proof that people have gone to syria. True. So we should have our own spy network over there.

Id pay if you want to leave aus.

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/2/005/078/212/3c36c7f.jpg

wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 7:01pm: wally1 wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 5:09pm: You cant just arrest people if the goverment has no proof that people have gone to syria. True. So we should have our own spy network over there. Id pay if you want to leave aus.

I'll chip in a hundred bucks.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 7:01pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 5:09pm: You cant just arrest people if the goverment has no proof that people have gone to syria. True. So we should have our own spy network over there.

Sensei, wouldn't they have to be Muslims?  Haven't you been telling us for years that we cannot trust Muslims?  How could we be sure they were telling us the truth?

Google: Taqqiya

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wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

Id pay if you want to leave aus.

... and join ISIS .... right?

We've long since worked out where your sympathies lie, Waleed.

ASIO is very closely tapped into phone-calls and social media where they're listening to ~ and recording  ~  conversations between people called Mohammad, Abdullah, Ahmed, and Waleed-the-#1-camel-f***er.

That's how they know who's been fighting with ISIS after they arrive back in Australia.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 6:05am:

wally1 wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 7:15pm: Id pay if you want to leave aus. ... and join ISIS .... right? We've long since worked out where your sympathies lie, Waleed. ASIO is very closely tapped into phone-calls and social media where they're listening to ~ and recording  ~  conversations between people called Mohammad, Abdullah, Ahmed, and Waleed-the-#1-camel-f***er. That's how they know who's been fighting with ISIS after they arrive back in Australia.

Your a tool.

First you agree with me there is no proof that overseas muslims have gone to syria, and now you say there phones are tapped.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 6:05am:

wally1 wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 7:15pm: Id pay if you want to leave aus. ... and join ISIS .... right? We've long since worked out where your sympathies lie, Waleed. ASIO is very closely tapped into phone-calls and social media where they're listening to ~ and recording  ~  conversations between people called Mohammad, Abdullah, Ahmed, and Waleed-the-#1-camel-f***er. That's how they know who's been fighting with ISIS after they arrive back in Australia.

Arent you ISIS already?

http://i.imgur.com/Yv0k3tj.jpg

wally1 wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 1:11pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 6:05am: wally1 wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 7:15pm: Id pay if you want to leave aus. ... and join ISIS .... right? We've long since worked out where your sympathies lie, Waleed. ASIO is very closely tapped into phone-calls and social media where they're listening to ~ and recording  ~  conversations between people called Mohammad, Abdullah, Ahmed, and Waleed-the-#1-camel-f***er. That's how they know who's been fighting with ISIS after they arrive back in Australia. Your a tool. First you agree with me there is no proof that overseas muslims have gone to syria, and now you say there phones are tapped.

We KNOW their phones are tapped ~ precisely because ASIO and the AFP asked for this permission from the government.

I don't think people like you and gandalf realise that by defending Islam as a knee-jerk reaction to even the most fair and rational criticism ~ you are displaying Nazi credentials.

Islam is not about 'peace' ~ but all about 'submission'. Both you and gandalf can't even get yourselves to admit to this first and most basic truth about Islam.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 1:11pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 6:05am: wally1 wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 7:15pm: Id pay if you want to leave aus. ... and join ISIS .... right? We've long since worked out where your sympathies lie, Waleed. ASIO is very closely tapped into phone-calls and social media where they're listening to ~ and recording  ~  conversations between people called Mohammad, Abdullah, Ahmed, and Waleed-the-#1-camel-f***er. That's how they know who's been fighting with ISIS after they arrive back in Australia. Your a tool. First you agree with me there is no proof that overseas muslims have gone to syria, and now you say there phones are tapped. We KNOW their phones are tapped ~ precisely because ASIO and the AFP asked for this permission from the government. I don't think people like you and gandalf realise that by defending Islam as a knee-jerk reaction to even the most fair and rational criticism ~ you are displaying Nazi credentials. Islam is not about 'peace' ~ but all about 'submission'. Both you and gandalf can't even get yourselves to admit to this first and most basic truth about Islam.

A judge gives the authority to phone tap, not the government,how would a unemployed dole bludger medicare/centrelink stealing import know anything about what work means?

Australian muslims are the largest per capita terror supporters

June 23, 2014

You’ll Never Guess Which Country Is the Biggest Per Capita Contributor of Foreign Jihadists to ISIS

It isn't in the Middle East or Central Asia or even in Europe. It's Down Under

A startling number of Australian citizens and residents have left the country to join jihadist factions in the ongoing crises in the Middle East, prompting the Australian government to launch a statewide effort to crack down on “home-grown terrorism” fostered within its borders

“This is one of the most disturbing developments in our domestic security in quite some time,” Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop told the Australian Broadcasting Service. “There’s a real danger that these extremists also come back home as trained terrorists and pose a threat to our security.”

Authorities believe that around 150 Australians are currently fighting alongside ISIS in Iraq and Syria, making the country the highest foreign per capita contributor to the violence. Many more have left the country for the Middle East in recent weeks, though their intent in doing so has not yet been determined.

“We will do everything we humanly can to stop jihadist terrorists coming into this country and if they do return to this country, we will do everything we reasonably can to ensure that they are not moving amongst the Australian community,” Prime Minister Tony Abbott told the Australian press on Monday


Abbott’s government has thus far canceled a number of passports held by those Australians who have joined the conflict, and is working to fortify a border security system that has a history of being more permeable than desired. It was a “customs failure” last year that permitted convicted terrorist Khaled Sharrouf to escape the country with his brother’s passport and head to Syria and then Iraq, where he has had a hand in the recent mass executions of Iraqi soldiers.

As for the suspected or confirmed terrorists still at large within the Australian borders, the government has mulled over the idea of providing national intelligence agencies greater access to the country’s internet traffic — a potentially controversial move, considering the outcry over the government’s mobile data surveillance plan in 2012.


This is not the first time that Australia has taken note of the extremist diaspora out of the country. Last summer, TIME reported that over 200 Australians had joined militant groups fighting to unseat Syrian President Bashar Assad in the country’s ongoing civil war, and that Australian counterterrorism operatives had consequently begun collecting evidence against suspected combatants.

Still, the exodus persists, from Australia and elsewhere: the Economist reported earlier this month that as many as 3,000 foreigners may have joined ISIS forces. The organization and its satellite groups seem intent on making their chaos an international issue, actively soliciting support from Muslims across the world.

In a 13-minute propagandist recruitment video released last week, purported ISIS extremists stated that their fellow jihadists in Iraq and Syria hailed from countries as far afield as Bangladesh and even Cambodia, although some Cambodian officials have disputed the claim.

Hopefully one day we'll have an immigration policy that doesn't fill our country up with ethnic groups that care more for other countries than Australia. I doubt any of theses traitors ever did anything for the Australian community except bled the welfare system.

What is the "Australian Broadcasting Service"?  Moses, they can't even get the name of the ABC right, why should we believe the accuracy of anything else they report?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Australian muslims are the largest per capita terror supporters

You’ll Never Guess Which Country Is the Biggest Per Capita Contributor of Foreign Jihadists to ISIS

Authorities believe that around 150 Australians are currently fighting alongside ISIS in Iraq and Syria, making the country the highest foreign per capita contributor to the violence.

over 200 Australians had joined militant groups

"Lies, damned lies and statistics".  Typical sensationalist reporting.  A small population contributes a moderately sized (in real terms) sample and it is a greater proportion than from a large population.   Australian Muslims are a drop in the ocean compared to European Muslims Moses, who have gone to join ISIS.

You still haven't explained by we should believe this inaccurate, sensationalised report.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

|dev|null wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

"Lies, damned lies and statistics".  Typical sensationalist reporting.  A small population contributes a moderately sized (in real terms) sample and it is a greater proportion than from a large population.   Australian Muslims are a drop in the ocean compared to European Muslims Moses, who have gone to join ISIS. You still haven't explained by we should believe this inaccurate, sensationalised report.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Do you know what per capita means?

Last month there was 90 aussies overseas fighting, yesterday was 400, today there is 150.

Government just plucking numbers out of the air, and are including any aussie who they may think are in syria and iraq, and are putting humanitarian workers in the same category as ISIS fighters.

|dev|null wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

What is the "Australian Broadcasting Service"?  Moses, they can't even get the name of the ABC right, why should we believe the accuracy of anything else they report?   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

Its nice you picked that up.

Time said last summer there was 200 fighting overseas, Bishop last week said there was 150 fighting overseas.

Obviously there just plucking at numbers

Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 5:08pm: "Lies, damned lies and statistics".  Typical sensationalist reporting.  A small population contributes a moderately sized (in real terms) sample and it is a greater proportion than from a large population.   Australian Muslims are a drop in the ocean compared to European Muslims Moses, who have gone to join ISIS. You still haven't explained by we should believe this inaccurate, sensationalised report.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Do you know what per capita means?

Yes.  Do you know why they use percentages and "per capita" rather than real numbers?  It's create alarmism.   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

|dev|null wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 5:10pm: |dev|null wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 5:08pm: "Lies, damned lies and statistics".  Typical sensationalist reporting.  A small population contributes a moderately sized (in real terms) sample and it is a greater proportion than from a large population.   Australian Muslims are a drop in the ocean compared to European Muslims Moses, who have gone to join ISIS. You still haven't explained by we should believe this inaccurate, sensationalised report.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Do you know what per capita means? Yes.  Do you know why they use percentages and "per capita" rather than real numbers?  It's create alarmism.   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

If Australia has 200 ISIS fighters with a population of 24 million then we have more traitors per capita than Germany who has a population of over 100 million and about 400 traitors. There is a good chance that we do have the highest amount of traitors per capita in the world.

The above report is just 7 months old, today the figures are:

UP to 400 Australians are now estimated to be either fighting for Islamic State terrorists in the Middle East or actively supporting their cause here at home,


Julie Bishop flags longer war as 400 Aussies sign up for jihad’s team terror 

January 27, 2015 12:00AM


UP to 400 Australians are now estimated to be either fighting for Islamic State terrorists in the Middle East or actively supporting their cause here at home, with security agencies alarmed at the rate young men are turning to terror. 
 
Foreign Minister Julie Bishop yesterday said coalition forces including Australians had been asked to stay longer in Afghanistan than the 2016 deadline set by the US President Barack Obama, amid warnings Islamic State was attempting to broaden their reach by co-operating with the Taliban.

Ms Bishop, who secretly flew into the Afghan capital Kabul yesterday to meet President Ashraf Ghani, confirmed that during an hour-long meeting he made a “compelling” case for coalition countries to stay longer in Afghanistan to prevent it descending back into another Iraq and a second haven for terrorism.

“Australia’s contribution to this brutality is disproportionally high. We are, and continue to be, the largest contributor per capita of young men to this violence.”

A senior government official confirmed yesterday that the numbers of active Australian jihadists were probably higher than what was being published.

So we have 2% of our population spawning 400 active islamic terrorists.

This equates to 20,000 terrorists per 100% if muslims were normal and no different to the rest of us.

However there are nil participating terrorists from any other group of Australians.

Consequently Australian muslims are 20,000 times more likely to be a religious terrorist than any other Australian.

moses wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 4:57pm:

Australian muslims are the largest per capita terror supporters You’ll Never Guess Which Country Is the Biggest Per Capita Contributor of Foreign Jihadists to ISIS Authorities believe that around 150 Australians are currently fighting alongside ISIS in Iraq and Syria, making the country the highest foreign per capita contributor to the violence. over 200 Australians had joined militant groups

Many of these 'Aussies' in Iraq and Syria, 12 months ago, would have passed many of us on the street, in Australian cities and suburbs.

But today, MANY OF THEM, will be,
1/ cutting the throats of captive Syrian and Iraqi men, and,
2/ raping women and young girls who they have bought or taken captive.



AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, FOR EFFECT;

Many of these 'Aussies' in Iraq and Syria, just 12 months ago, would have passed many of us on the street, in Australian cities and suburbs.


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ISLAMIC LAW teaches - EVERY MOSLEM - that murdering those who are not moslems [i.e. those who reject ISLAM], is a lawful act.


http://images.catholic.org/media/2014/07/28/14065694671961_700.jpg

VERY GRAPHIC IMAGE - DO NOT CLICK LINK

"Alawite victims of ISIS, beheaded and arranged as a display for the media and public"




"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193






Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4






ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06


ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."





THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260




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Yadda said....

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I oppose those who want to appease evil and wicked men, so as to to ease their own way. I support brining criminals [and those who give comfort to criminals among them] to account. Those who give comfort and protection to murderers, and to wanna-be-murderers, should not be allowed to dwell among us.

Good research, Moses.

It's an appalling indictment on the idealists who've been running our immigration policy since the early 70's when they opened the gates to the Muslims.

Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 5:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 5:21pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 5:10pm: |dev|null wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 5:08pm: "Lies, damned lies and statistics".  Typical sensationalist reporting.  A small population contributes a moderately sized (in real terms) sample and it is a greater proportion than from a large population.   Australian Muslims are a drop in the ocean compared to European Muslims Moses, who have gone to join ISIS. You still haven't explained by we should believe this inaccurate, sensationalised report.   ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Do you know what per capita means? Yes.  Do you know why they use percentages and "per capita" rather than real numbers?  It's create alarmism.   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D If Australia has 200 ISIS fighters with a population of 24 million then we have more traitors per capita than Germany who has a population of over 100 million and about 400 traitors. There is a good chance that we do have the highest amount of traitors per capita in the world.

Love the maths, Homo. Now that’s what we call a statistical analysis.

Longy would be proud.