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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1422390406 Message started by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:26am |
Title: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:26am
LABOR leader Luke Foley has said he will dump the second harbour rail tunnel to connect the North West Rail line to the Bankstown line if he wins the March state election.
“I am not convinced another connection from the north is a priority for the city,” Mr Foley said yesterday, as he promised to release his infrastructure plan next month. “I am looking at all the proposals on the drawing board at the moment and I’ll have a policy before the public of NSW early in the campaign.” Premier Mike Baird is promising to use the $20 billion he says he will reap from a 49 per cent long-term lease of electricity networks to build the second harbour rail tunnel, as well as new connections to the north and south for the WestConnex Motorway. Without the second harbour crossing rapid transit line, the $8.3 billion North West Rail Link would begin at Rouse Hill and end at Chatswood, creating a possible logjam. Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”. The second harbour crossing has been costed at $10.4 b. Mr Foley said he did not want to comment further until he released his policy. Mr Baird has promised $10.4 billion for a Sydney Rapid Transit line including a second Sydney Harbour crossing, new CBD stations and conversion of the Bankstown Line to rapid transit. The government has also promised $1 billion for a Western Sydney Rail Upgrade Program to improve the network, $1 billion for Parramatta Light Rail, a $4.5 billion Western Harbour road tunnel and $1.5 billion WestConnex connections to the south and west. I t is likely Labor will also commit to Parramatta Light Rail, with ex-leader John Robertson having pledged money for a feasibility study into the project. But Mr Foley would not say whether he would keep WestConnex extensions. He told 2GB he was sceptical that as much as $20 billion could be raised from the poles and wires sale, and claimed he could use the existing capital infrastructure program to build projects. “The state has a $15 billion annual infrastructure spend, or $150 billion over 10 years,” Mr Foley said. Mr Baird hit back last night, saying without the Sydney Rapid Transit “all heavy rail lines are forecast to reach capacity between 2017 and 2024”. “Anybody who opposes SRT also opposes a 60 per cent increase in the capacity of the rail system during peak periods, along with end-to-end journeys from the outer-northwest to the southwest, without the need for interchange at Chatswood,” he said. “Labor’s legacy to NSW was a $30 billion infrastructure backlog … they have learned nothing and lack vision.” http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/luke-foley-derails-second-harbour-rail-tunnel/story-fni0cx12-1227198873159 |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am Quote:
Don't see how Labor can fund anything without going into debt, which is the Labor way after all. It also shows how short-sighted Foley is, opposing the second harbour rail tunnel. Apparently residents in North Sydney don't deserve good rail services. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:39am
So the coalition plan is to have New South Wales residents pay more for their electricity in order to fund "better rail" for sydney?
Sounds like a very bad idea. Regions ought to be outraged. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Greens_Win on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:44am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
So you are complaining about infrastructure not being built while complaining infrastructure building is done via debt. Move over cods, we have a new leader in the race for whinger award 2015. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:53am ____ wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:44am:
your calling me a whinger.. gawd what a HYPOCRITE starts the most lying threads ever what a crock you are.. hey btw Sydney flooded again....whatever happened to that SYDNEY WILL BE A DESERT in FIVE YEARs.. times up! ;D ;D not many more PANIC BUTTONS LEFT FOR THE GREENS TO PUSH IS THERE? almost disappeared into obscurity..I would like to say its been nice knowing you.. but in your case I wont. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:53am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
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He has very reasonably pointed out that his projects would fit under current spending arrangements and that in all probability the sell off will not generate enough cash to pay for the Libs promises anyway. A typical Liberal spending black hole and promises that will not be kept. Same old Liberals. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:54am
Foley looks a lot like Milne....UGH
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Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Greens_Win on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:09am cods wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:53am:
You mean this thread. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1422334453 And I never claimed sydney would be desert in 5 yrs. Now don't panic. There is still plenty of time to get back in front and with plenty more of your usual posts, win the whinger2015 award. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:14am ____ wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:09am:
And I never claimed sydney would be desert in 5 yrs. It will take at least 7 to 10 years. Sydney could easily be left just as devastated as Whyalla was a few years back. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Kat on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:14am ____ wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:44am:
No, he's complaining because it's being done by Labor, and for no other reason. Coalition plan, he'd be all over it. I grow more intelligent tomatoes than this bloke. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:16am Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:53am:
He has very reasonably pointed out that his projects would fit under current spending arrangements and that in all probability the sell off will not generate enough cash to pay for the Libs promises anyway. A typical Liberal spending black hole and promises that will not be kept. Same old Liberals.[/quote] Labor won't build anything unless they go into debt, which isn't a smart way of doing things. Experience has shown us that Labor is incapable of managing debt proficiently and so this scenario - a Labor government - should be avoided like the plague. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:17am Kat wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:14am:
Some people prefer to grow dumb tomatoes, it helps with their inferiority complex. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by cods on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:17am ____ wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:09am:
no your born again death is coming to Australia prophet Tim Flannery did... after he got aboard the Al Gore Bobby Brown PANIC BUS.. way back in 2008... of course they have all made heaps of money since those days...and probably still are even though they have predicted the end is nye.. ;D ;D maybe they have figured out how to take it with them ::) |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by longweekend58 on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am
It seems the ACTU/ALP party's position is to complain about Liberal infrastructure while lauding their own... and that about sums it up.
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Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am Kat wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:14am:
Wow, you're stupid. Never thought I'd see you claim tomatoes possess any level of intelligence! :o |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:21am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:16am:
Labor won't build anything unless they go into debt, which isn't a smart way of doing things. Experience has shown us that Labor is incapable of managing debt proficiently and so this scenario - a Labor government - should be avoided like the plague.[/quote] You seem to forget that before the GFC every Labor state budget was in surplus for over a decade and that during the GFC every state government including the Liberal ones went into deficit. Your dogma base unsupportable rhetoric means little no matter how many times you repeat the same old guff. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:25am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
I think the point is that no level of intelligence is required to be smarter than that bloke probably shown by the need to explain it, the tomato got it straight away. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:26am Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:25am:
And you just joined Kat... ::) |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Armchair_Politician on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:52am
Poll.
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Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Black Orchid on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:56am
Sydney doesn't need another harbour tunnel nor does it need a direct link between North Sydney and Bankstown.
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Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:06am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
That's how it works from both sides - criticise the other guy's idea and then give your own.... probably both equally dumb... I fail to see how building one thing for $20bn is less costly or debt-incurring than building something else for $20bn.... Perhaps both governments should be seriously looking at my both left and right TSTCL - Trans Sydney Tunnels Corporation Limited.. all road and rail infrastructure deep within the bowels of the earth - travel from one side of Sydney to the other in twenty minutes... plenty of sandstone there to dig..... Dig in de groun' de devil don' catch ye! |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Kat on Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:18am
There's also the fact that there are already two lines from the north, the 'Short North' through
Eastwood/Epping from Hornsby, and the 'Long North' which crosses the harbour. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:21am cods wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:54am:
something tells me cods has a crush on Milne. :-* :-* |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by sir prince duke alevine on Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:22am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
and what about vice versa mr partisan? |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by labor are corrupt on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:13am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:26am:
Does not matter what the union puppet foley says. Labor won,t get in |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:17am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
They all drive. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:32am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:17am:
Glad you don't generalise. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:52am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:32am:
Generally not. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:57am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:52am:
Clever retort. Amusing too. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Dsmithy70 on Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:10pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
Would that be the same as the IPA/LNP party's complaining about Labor infrastructure whilst lauding their own? Thanks for bringing the discussion down to Tones level of understanding. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by The Outrage Bus on Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:11pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:57am:
Thats me |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:31pm
Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed
so he should ... most are stupid liberal voters anyway ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Old Northern on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:30pm
Can anyone suggest a valid reason as to why we need another harbour crossing? Neither the original article nor any of the subsequent comments seem to say why we should have one built.
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Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Black Orchid on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:35pm Wolseley wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:30pm:
We don't need one. Nor do we need a direct link with Bankstown. Insanity. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by John Smith on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:37pm Wolseley wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:30pm:
so that Premier Baird can leave behind a legacy. :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Old Northern on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:41pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
I can't see the point in it either. So, if Foley is telling people anything, it is not to get stuffed, he is telling them to get real. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2015 at 10:08pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Are you the bloke giving an IQ head start to a Tomato ? |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Dnarever on Jan 28th, 2015 at 10:10pm Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
Most people I know on the North Shore do not know where Bankstown is or anyone who lives there. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by Old Northern on Jan 28th, 2015 at 10:14pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 10:10pm:
And those on the North Shore who do know of Bankstown probably wouldn't want a direct link to it. |
Title: Re: Foley to Nth Syd residents: get stuffed! Post by philperth2010 on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:19pm
What are you people on the East Coast complaining about.....At least you are getting some infrastructure.....All Barnett has given WA is a new Palace to sit his fat arse, Elizabeth Quay which will deliver no benefit to the State, a new sports stadium which will now be connected to Packers Casino after Barnett promised this would not happen, Perth's only toll road to be introduced thanks to Abbott and Barnett wonders why he cannot fund the rail he promised.....Priorities seam to be ass about with this lot!!!
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