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Message started by Greens_Win on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:11pm

Title: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 10:11pm
Sea Shepherd locates two boats suspected of illegal toothfish fishing near Australian Antarctic base

Environmental activist group the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society says it is chasing two illegal fishing boats that were spotted sailing just 50 nautical miles from Australia's Mawson Base in Antarctica.

The New Zealand navy made an unsuccessful attempt to board the two boats after they were discovered operating illegally in the Southern Ocean last month.

The New Zealanders pursed the Yongding and the Kunlun for about a week before returning to New Zealand.

Sea Shepherd has criticised Australia for not taking up the chase when the New Zealand navy had to return to port to refuel.

The activists report the boats are now in waters that Australia claims as part of the Antarctic territory.

Sea Shepherd Captain Sid Chakravarty said he found the boats on Monday near Antarctica.

"I told the captains that they were wanted by the Interpol, they were fishing illegally in these waters, they did not have permit," he said.

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AUDIO: Sea Shepherd Captain Sid Chakravarty talks to PM's Felicity Ogilvy after intercepting illegal fishing boats (PM)
He said the ships were close to Australia's Mawson station on Tuesday morning but they were not fishing at the time.

"The decks of both the vessels are loaded with gill netting gear, which is a banned fishing method inside the ... region," said Mr Chakravarty.

"[They were] discharging fish offal and guts over the side as well which would indicate that the vessels had recently been engaged in fishing operations and are probably cleaning their decks and storing the fish taken illegally into their freezers."

Sea Shepherd said it believed the true owner of the boat was a Spanish syndicate.

Australia urged to deploy Customs vessel Ocean Shied

The New Zealand government said it was pursuing the matter with the Spanish government to try to find out if the owners of the boat are based in Spain and can be prosecuted there.

Mr Chakravarty said Sea Shepherd was planning to take action in the Southern Ocean to stop the illegal fishing.

"I'll be using the Sam Simon directly as a blockading tool and putting my vessel behind these fishing vessels where they run their fishing gear out from and that should pretty quickly end their fishing operations," he said.

Tasmanian Greens senator Peter Whish-Wilson called on the Federal Government to send a Customs ship down to the Southern Ocean to intercept the illegal fishing boats.

"The Ocean Shield was promised by the Liberal government in opposition," he said.

"[A] promise that they would send this customs vessel down to patrol the Southern Ocean.

HMNZS Wellington and the Kunlun
PHOTO: New Zealand navy ship the Wellington was in a stand-off with the Kunlun. (Supplied: NZ Defence Force)
"They've recently reiterated that promise; they said there'd be two 40-day patrols to patrol for unregulated illegal fishing.

"They need to send that boat immediately."

A specialist in Antarctic policy at the University of Tasmania, Julia Jabour, said while Australia claimed sovereignty over the waters that the ships were in, not many other countries recognised the claim.

"Sea Shepherd in their press release have suggested or in fact criticised the Australian Government for not responding to the presence of these vessels in Australian waters and I'd like to reiterate that they are not Australian waters," she said.

"But if they had been, for example, another couple of hundred nautical miles north and were in fact in Heard Island or the McDonald Island exclusive economic zone, which is without a doubt Australian water, then you would see a response from Australia.

"But the Australian Government is not doing nothing, simply because there is nothing they can do."

A spokesman for Border Protection Minister Peter Dutton said Customs patrols were conducted based on ongoing assessments of operational priorities across all maritime security threats.

He said they could not say when or if a patrol was being sent to the Southern Ocean because of what the Minister's office calls "operational security purposes".


www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-03/sea-shepherd-locates-illegal-fishing-boats-near-australian-base/6067902

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by The Grappler Hebdo (je suis) on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:36am
Yes - they can divert the refugee seekers, but they can't stop the fish pirates.... too hard.

Australia and Antarctica are truly open for business.. no matter what it is.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am
Gawd, you leftards are so incredibly stupid it actually ceases to amaze me nowadays. Patrolling the sea between Darwin and Bali is easy - better sea conditions and far smaller transit distances along with the fact that assistance isn't all that far away. But patrolling the Southern Ocean in the area where these boats were spotted is far, far more difficult and expensive. It's also far more dangerous. By the way - one boat of illegals. That's gotta hurt you leftarded people smuggler lovers!  ;)

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Dnarever on Feb 4th, 2015 at 5:57am

Quote:
A specialist in Antarctic policy at the University of Tasmania, Julia Jabour, said while Australia claimed sovereignty over the waters that the ships were in, not many other countries recognised the claim.

"Sea Shepherd in their press release have suggested or in fact criticised the Australian Government for not responding to the presence of these vessels in Australian waters and I'd like to reiterate that they are not Australian waters," she said.


If Australia claim the waters as they have since 1933 then the only way it will ever be recognised is if we enforce and police the zone against illegal activity.


Quote:
I'd like to reiterate that they are not Australian waters," she said.


This dope has actually gone as far as refuting Australia's claim.

To Australia these are in fact legally Australian waters and the only way that will ever be recognised is if we enforce our responsibility over the region.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Dnarever on Feb 4th, 2015 at 5:59am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
Gawd, you leftards are so incredibly stupid it actually ceases to amaze me nowadays. Patrolling the sea between Darwin and Bali is easy - better sea conditions and far smaller transit distances along with the fact that assistance isn't all that far away. But patrolling the Southern Ocean in the area where these boats were spotted is far, far more difficult and expensive. It's also far more dangerous. By the way - one boat of illegals. That's gotta hurt you leftarded people smuggler lovers! 


Some think that they should be actually doing their job instead of stopping people with every right to come and apply for protection.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by The Mechanic on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:16am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
Gawd, you leftards are so incredibly stupid it actually ceases to amaze me nowadays. Patrolling the sea between Darwin and Bali is easy - better sea conditions and far smaller transit distances along with the fact that assistance isn't all that far away. But patrolling the Southern Ocean in the area where these boats were spotted is far, far more difficult and expensive. It's also far more dangerous. By the way - one boat of illegals. That's gotta hurt you leftarded people smuggler lovers!  ;)


I guess its my fault for even looking into, yet again, another of Greens idiotic threads...  ::)

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Dnarever on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:18am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 6:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
Gawd, you leftards are so incredibly stupid it actually ceases to amaze me nowadays. Patrolling the sea between Darwin and Bali is easy - better sea conditions and far smaller transit distances along with the fact that assistance isn't all that far away. But patrolling the Southern Ocean in the area where these boats were spotted is far, far more difficult and expensive. It's also far more dangerous. By the way - one boat of illegals. That's gotta hurt you leftarded people smuggler lovers!  ;)


I guess its my fault for even looking into, yet again, another of Greens idiotic threads...  ::)


I guess its my fault


Yep - it normally is.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Bam on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:51am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
Gawd, you leftards are so incredibly stupid

The white flag.


Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
it actually ceases to amaze me nowadays. Patrolling the sea between Darwin and Bali is easy - better sea conditions and far smaller transit distances along with the fact that assistance isn't all that far away. But patrolling the Southern Ocean in the area where these boats were spotted is far, far more difficult and expensive. It's also far more dangerous. By the way - one boat of illegals. That's gotta hurt you leftarded people smuggler lovers!  ;)

This rubbish shows that you have no clue.

This government have dropped the ball on illegal fishing in the Southern Ocean and in Australian territorial waters. Patagonian toothfish is being taken around Heard and McDonald islands with impunity because the current government is far too preoccupied with asylum seekers. They have redirected the Customs ships that would patrol this zone. The zone around Heard and McDonald islands is far smaller than the Timor Strait ... yet the current government would rather let illegal fishing boats operate unchallenged.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:13am
Thread title had the desired effect , it had Armpits heart skipping a few beats  ;D

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:38am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
By the way - one boat of illegals.



Asylum seekers, actually.

Nothing illegal about that.

And , only one reported.

There are many others.

The Government has stopped nothing.


Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:49pm

Bam wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
Gawd, you leftards are so incredibly stupid

The white flag.


Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
it actually ceases to amaze me nowadays. Patrolling the sea between Darwin and Bali is easy - better sea conditions and far smaller transit distances along with the fact that assistance isn't all that far away. But patrolling the Southern Ocean in the area where these boats were spotted is far, far more difficult and expensive. It's also far more dangerous. By the way - one boat of illegals. That's gotta hurt you leftarded people smuggler lovers!  ;)

This rubbish shows that you have no clue.

This government have dropped the ball on illegal fishing in the Southern Ocean and in Australian territorial waters. Patagonian toothfish is being taken around Heard and McDonald islands with impunity because the current government is far too preoccupied with asylum seekers. They have redirected the Customs ships that would patrol this zone. The zone around Heard and McDonald islands is far smaller than the Timor Strait ... yet the current government would rather let illegal fishing boats operate unchallenged.


Deep sea fisherman aren't carrying potential terrorists to our shores, or diseases, hence the fact they're a lower priority.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
By the way - one boat of illegals.



Asylum seekers, actually.

Nothing illegal about that.

And , only one reported.

There are many others.

The Government has stopped nothing.


Many others, eh? Of course you have proof, right? Put up or shut up!

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:53pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
By the way - one boat of illegals.



Asylum seekers, actually.

Nothing illegal about that.

And , only one reported.

There are many others.

The Government has stopped nothing.


Many others, eh? Of course you have proof, right? Put up or shut up!



Only one reported.

Many others are out there.

The monkey government have stopped nothing.


Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
By the way - one boat of illegals.



Asylum seekers, actually.

Nothing illegal about that.

And , only one reported.

There are many others.

The Government has stopped nothing.


Many others, eh? Of course you have proof, right? Put up or shut up!



Only one reported.

Many others are out there.

The monkey government have stopped nothing.


You seem so certain of that. Should be very easy for you to provide proof to back up your baseless lie.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:58pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:53pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
By the way - one boat of illegals.



Asylum seekers, actually.

Nothing illegal about that.

And , only one reported.

There are many others.

The Government has stopped nothing.


Many others, eh? Of course you have proof, right? Put up or shut up!



Only one reported.

Many others are out there.

The monkey government have stopped nothing.


You seem so certain of that. Should be very easy for you to provide proof to back up your baseless lie.



"Australia confirms 15 boats carrying 429 asylum seekers have been turned back"

"A total of 15 boats containing 429 asylum seekers have been turned back since the Australian government enacted its Operation Sovereign Borders (OSB) policy, the immigration minister, Peter Dutton, has said."

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jan/28/australia-confirms-15-boats-carrying-429-asylum-seekers-have-been-turned-back

There you go.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 4th, 2015 at 1:14pm

Greg -
Quote:
.........Australia confirms 15 boats carrying 429 asylum seekers have been turned back"

"A total of 15 boats containing 429 asylum seekers have been turned back since the Australian government enacted its Operation Sovereign Borders (OSB) policy, the immigration minister, Peter Dutton, has said."

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jan/28/australia-confirms-15-boat...

There you go. ......


that sounds a successful operation to me.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 4th, 2015 at 1:16pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 1:14pm:
Greg -
Quote:
.........Australia confirms 15 boats carrying 429 asylum seekers have been turned back"

"A total of 15 boats containing 429 asylum seekers have been turned back since the Australian government enacted its Operation Sovereign Borders (OSB) policy, the immigration minister, Peter Dutton, has said."

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jan/28/australia-confirms-15-boat...

There you go. ......


that sounds a successful operation to me.



If they have to turn boats around, they obviously haven't stopped.

The monkey government has stopped nothing.


Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Bam on Feb 4th, 2015 at 2:05pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
Gawd, you leftards are so incredibly stupid

The white flag.


Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
it actually ceases to amaze me nowadays. Patrolling the sea between Darwin and Bali is easy - better sea conditions and far smaller transit distances along with the fact that assistance isn't all that far away. But patrolling the Southern Ocean in the area where these boats were spotted is far, far more difficult and expensive. It's also far more dangerous. By the way - one boat of illegals. That's gotta hurt you leftarded people smuggler lovers!  ;)

This rubbish shows that you have no clue.

This government have dropped the ball on illegal fishing in the Southern Ocean and in Australian territorial waters. Patagonian toothfish is being taken around Heard and McDonald islands with impunity because the current government is far too preoccupied with asylum seekers. They have redirected the Customs ships that would patrol this zone. The zone around Heard and McDonald islands is far smaller than the Timor Strait ... yet the current government would rather let illegal fishing boats operate unchallenged.


Deep sea fisherman aren't carrying potential terrorists to our shores, or diseases, hence the fact they're a lower priority.

Even though these fishermen are criminals, wanted by Interpol and with millions of dollars of contraband on board, you would prefer to do nothing.

Sea Shepherd says it's found illegal fishing ship 18/12/2014
NZ Navy find two illegal fishing boats in Southern Ocean 13/01/2015
Spanish government promises to co-operate with illegal fishing investigation 21/01/2015

You really need to sort out your priorities.

Title: Re: Abbott Mob Fails To Stop The Boats
Post by Dnarever on Feb 4th, 2015 at 3:45pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 8:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
Gawd, you leftards are so incredibly stupid

The white flag.


Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 4th, 2015 at 4:41am:
it actually ceases to amaze me nowadays. Patrolling the sea between Darwin and Bali is easy - better sea conditions and far smaller transit distances along with the fact that assistance isn't all that far away. But patrolling the Southern Ocean in the area where these boats were spotted is far, far more difficult and expensive. It's also far more dangerous. By the way - one boat of illegals. That's gotta hurt you leftarded people smuggler lovers!  ;)

This rubbish shows that you have no clue.

This government have dropped the ball on illegal fishing in the Southern Ocean and in Australian territorial waters. Patagonian toothfish is being taken around Heard and McDonald islands with impunity because the current government is far too preoccupied with asylum seekers. They have redirected the Customs ships that would patrol this zone. The zone around Heard and McDonald islands is far smaller than the Timor Strait ... yet the current government would rather let illegal fishing boats operate unchallenged.


Deep sea fisherman aren't carrying potential terrorists to our shores, or diseases, hence the fact they're a lower priority.


Neither are anyone else ?

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