This will be a interesting case.


Anti-halal campaigner sued over claims Islamic certification supports terrorism

A prominent anti-halal campaigner and the “Islam-critical” Q Society are being sued for defamation over their claims the Islamic certification industry is corrupt and funds “the push for sharia law in Australia”.

Mohammed El-Mouelhy, the head of one of Australia’s largest certifiers, Halal Certification Authority, began proceedings in the New South Wales supreme court last month against senior members of the Melbourne-based Q Society and Kirralie Smith, who runs the website HalalChoices.

The statement of claim alleges that two videos featuring Smith, one recorded at a Q Society event, portray El-Mouelhy as “part of a conspiracy to destroy Western civilisation from within” and “reasonably suspected of providing financial support to terrorist organisations”.

He also claims that Smith alleges in one of the videos that El Mouelhy once accepted the fee to certify a company without carrying out an inspection and that he conducts his business in a “dishonest manner”.

El Mouelhy is named in both videos and Smith makes specific allegations about his conduct. His company’s logo flashes on screen in the first clip, a slick 32-minute explainer of Smith’s concerns with halal certification that has been viewed more than 60,000 times.

The landmark case could have implications for the anti-halal movement in Australia, which briefly became prominent last November when a South Australian dairy company came under pressure from anti-halal activists and ditched its Islamic certification – at the cost of a $50,000 contract.

Smith’s website, which outlines her concerns with halal certification and provides lists of certified products, is a lightning rod for the movement, which despite an active online presence has done little to persuade major food manufacturers to forgo halal fees.
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The halal food industry is worth about $2.3tn worldwide and halal exports account for about two-thirds of Australia’s $10bn food export market.

The Australian Crime Commission, which last year completed an investigation into money laundering in Australia, has said it is “not aware of any direct links” between the industry and violent extremist groups.

The Q Society organised for Dutch firebrand MP Geert Wilders to tour Australia in 2013 and regularly holds events warning of the “Islamisation” of Australian society. It has links to the Reverend Fred Nile’s Christian Democratic party.

Q Society board members Debbie Robinson, Peter Callaghan and Ralf Schumann are also named in the suit, as is YouTube, which hosts the two videos.

El Mouelhy, who has run his Halal Certification Authority for more than two decades, said he brought the action because his integrity had been attacked.

“I don’t like anybody to malign me, I’m an honest person and I don’t see why anybody should say these things,” he said.

Robinson declined to comment, citing legal advice. Smith also did not comment on the case, but told Guardian Australia her website “is about providing information to consumers so they can make a choice”.

A directions hearing in the defamation case is scheduled for 20 February.

Late on Tuesday the independent senator Jacqui Lambie threatened to introduce a private senator’s bill to stop what she believes is “halal money” funding Islamic State.

Addressing the upper house Lambie questioned whether halal certification funded militants in Syria and Iraq. She said she was prompted to look into the issue after receiving hundreds of emails from concerned residents.

A study the Tasmanian senator commissioned from the parliamentary library exposed some “surprising facts” that alarmed her.

Certifiers were not legally required to disclose their fees, nor was there a formal reporting or auditing system to ascertain whether funds were being misused, she said.

“Given that our enemies in Islamic State are receiving a steady cashflow to control their caliphate in Syria and Iraq, why isn’t there a legal requirement in Australia for halal certification fees to be disclosed?” Lambie said.

Lambie said if the government failed to answer her questions, she would introduce legislation to close such “legal loopholes”.

I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School.

This what we get for letting them mix religion up with the food we eat.

If the defendant is forced to pay damages, I wonder if this cost will be cited as the "cost" of halal certification - like it was when McDonalds was forced pay compensation for falsely labelling some of its food as halal?

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 11:41am:

If the defendant is forced to pay damages, I wonder if this cost will be cited as the "cost" of halal certification - like it was when McDonalds was forced pay compensation for falsely labelling some of its food as halal?

Considering that the person being sued is just a campaigner I doubt very  much money will be going halal's way. You can't get blood from a stone so they say.

I wonder how much cheaper our food would be if we all werent forced to go the halal way.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School.

Whats that ?


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.........the Malik Fahd School.....

more islamic attempts at refusing our society ?

beheadings, corruption ....... ??

rhino wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 12:16pm:

I wonder how much cheaper our food would be if we all werent forced to go the halal way.

Or how many animals weren't tortured and slaughtered in such a barbaric, brutal and cruel way in the traditions of 8th century middle eastern culture.
So much for "Animal Rights" nowadays.

It won't be hard to prove the money is used to support terrorism. It has been done before. This will be great, its about time the world sees these grubs peddling halal certification for what they are in a court of law.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School.

Gandalf do you feel compelled to defend these people because they are Muslims and must therefor be honest operators?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malek_Fahd_Islamic_School

In 2008 Malek Fahd Islamic School was criticised for not allowing under performing students to sit the Higher School Certificate (HSC), resulting in unfairly high HSC results reported for the school. The school denied distorting exam results.[9]

In 2010 the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils received $5.2 million from Malek Fahd Islamic School which is approximately one third of the money received from the federal and state governments.[10] In 2012 the NSW government demanded the repayment of $9 million passed from Malek Fahd Islamic School to the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils.[11][12]

In November 2013 the school faced closure due to problems associated with its attendance-approvals, its HSC curriculum, educational quality, safe environment and its buildings.[2][11] In December 2013 the school won a reprieve,[5] with the NSW Board of Studies agreeing to a further year of registration.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Federation_of_Islamic_Councils

The AFIC is one of Australia's top four[6] halal accreditation certifiers[7] with AFIC having strict rules with regards to Islamic slaughter for animals[8] and for chickens.[9] It is reported that AFIC earns up to $1 million a year from this halal certification.

Any local organisation promoting the Islamisation of Australia is trying to undermine our society from within.

rhino wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 12:16pm:

I wonder how much cheaper our food would be if we all werent forced to go the halal way.

The problem is companies like Cadbury's do it so their sales in middle easturd countries are not harmed. Its is basic greed on both sides.

As a non muslim nation we suffer because of companies like Cadbury's greed in middle easturd nations. They only see musseys as a quick buck se we pay more if you buy from them that is.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School.

Unfortunately freediver is not part of it,who is going to be bothered going through his posts.

COURT DATE SET FOR LEGAL ACTION
AGAINST AUSTRALIAN ANTI-HALAL LEADERS

A damages claim has been scheduled to be heard in the Supreme Court of New South Wales next month.

PLAINTIFF: Mohamed El-MOUELHY

DEFENDANTS:
Q Society Australia Inc
Kirralie Jane Smith
Peter Domenic Callaghan
Debbie Robinson
Ralph Schumann
You Tube LLC

A Directions Hearing is scheduled for 9:30 on Friday 20/02/15
Court Reference Number: 2014/377391

(Details provided by the Plaintiff)

What would you like to see me sued for Wally? Disagreeing with you?

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 2:25pm:

rhino wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:16pm: I wonder how much cheaper our food would be if we all werent forced to go the halal way. The problem is companies like Cadbury's do it so their sales in middle easturd countries are not harmed. Its is basic greed on both sides. As a non muslim nation we suffer because of companies like Cadbury's greed in middle easturd nations. They only see musseys as a quick buck se we pay more if you buy from them that is.

You'll notice that in the supermarkets over here shoppers are spurning their product because of this Halal business, and Cadbury have reduced the price of their products significantly. In fact if my wife buys chocolate she refuses to buy Cadburys. If enough people refuse to buy Halal products, sooner or later the manufacturers will stop the practice, eventhough some won't display that little sign on their product, confirmation that they are Halal can easily be sourced on the Internet.

yes they are, I noticed a halal butcher recently in a very busy location with hardly any customers, the non halal butchers near him were doing a roaring trade, he wasnt looking happy at all, there is an enormous backlash within the general community now towards anything Muslim or connected in peoples minds with Islam in general. I think the government should force manufacturers to put the halal certification mark on all products deemed so. I didnt know about Cadburys.

wally1 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 6:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:26am: I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School. Unfortunately freediver is not part of it,who is going to be bothered going through his posts. COURT DATE SET FOR LEGAL ACTION AGAINST AUSTRALIAN ANTI-HALAL LEADERS A damages claim has been scheduled to be heard in the Supreme Court of New South Wales next month. PLAINTIFF: Mohamed El-MOUELHY DEFENDANTS: Q Society Australia Inc Kirralie Jane Smith Peter Domenic Callaghan Debbie Robinson Ralph Schumann You Tube LLC A Directions Hearing is scheduled for 9:30 on Friday 20/02/15 Court Reference Number: 2014/377391 (Details provided by the Plaintiff)

If this Mohammed loses he could end up paying the legal fees for the defendants.

Why is he suing youtube Walid what have they done?

Youtube supports muslims with their jihad videos-
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jihad+nasheed

I like some of these they have English subtitles
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=qom+jihad+nasheed

If he wins Freediver will shut the site down I suspect!


;D ;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 16^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

If he wins Freediver will shut the site down I suspect! ;D ;D ;D

No chance of that.



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Halal mainly involves meat.Much of the non meat food supply is intrinsically halal,and thus does not require certification,including milk,honey,fish,vegetables,fruits,legumes,nuts and grains Yet many producers and suppliers for such products pay for halal certification. "I emailed Capilano honey after I discovered they were paying for halal certification' smith said, this was their response- While I appreciate that honey is considered halal under Islamic law, it is our customers requirement to provide halal certification in order for us to do business with them. It sounds like extortion to me. smh.com.au/comment/halal-easter-eggs-and-cat-food-where-big-money-meets-religion-20130327-2gujc.html

So why are people being made to pay for halal certification on products that are already considered halal?

Muslims are allowed to eat non halal food if the choice is that or nothing.

Most of the money in the halal industry is for beef exports. This is required by a group of foreign governments, including Indonesia. This group also imposes anti-competitive rules within Australia, for example only allowing one certifier per state and encouraging them to take advantage of the monopoly by over-charging.