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Title: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Mar 3^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm

These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in Australia

Muslim cleric: Those who don't respect Muslims have "no right to live"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/muslim-cleric-those-who-dont-respect-muslims-have-no-right-to-live

< -------- Liveleak video link on that page

video, 11 min

paraphrasing moslem cleric, in Norway;

Quote:

'We [the local ummah, e.g. moslems in Norway] must kill those who don't respect moslems/ISLAM. The moslems [in Norway] who would do this are innocent.'

direct quote;

Quote:

"Anyone who knows of this punishment can kill him. Anyone."

Oh what joy, we Australians have brought to our nation, when we, Australians, first welcomed moslems to our shores! - NOT!

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Yadda said....

Quote:

A moslem, is a person who chooses to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM], which teaches them [moslems] that it is 'lawful' for them [moslems], to kill those, who do not believe, as they believe.

That is what a moslem is.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/21#21

Quote:

THE PERSON WHO DECLARES HIMSELF TO BE, A MOSLEM ------- >

By definition, 'the moslem' is a person who 'subscribes' to the tenets and laws and 'ideals' of ISLAM.

That, is the essential definition of a 'moslem'.

And these monsters [moslems] live among us.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17

Quote:

The heart of ISLAM is the Koran [and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].

SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ;

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8

Quote:

Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.

SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes
then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 2:01pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm:

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These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in Australia

Yes, they make things so much more interesting, now don't they? Without them, we wouldn't see you posting with crayons! ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by two minutes hate on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 2:09pm

What a nutjob!!! Norway has to send this piece of trash back to the third world quick smart before he does too much damage.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Rhino on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 2:13pm

damn murdering Muslims

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Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by two minutes hate on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 2:22pm

You've got the wrong thread Rhino.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

rhino is just wrong.

never mind what thread that muslim is in .

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 6^th, 2015 at 7:14pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

rhino is just wrong.

never mind what thread that muslim is in .

Breivik is a Muslim? ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:25pm

THE FACE OF A MOSLEM MONSTER....

IMAGE....

Aqsa Mahmood - the pretty moslem medical student, from the UK.

That young moslem woman chose to abandon her medical studies in the UK.

And chose to travel to Syria/Iraq, so that she could supervise the rape [by moslems men] of kidnapped Yazidi women.

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood - running ISIS brothels, allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women.

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood, "said she wanted to behead Christians with a “blunt knife”."

Quote:

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:26pm

YET ANOTHER MOSLEM 'FEMME FATALE' [MONSTER]....

Salwa Al-Mutairi - has called for the legalizing sex slavery in Kuwait.
So as to protect moslem men, from sexual corruption [....this would be 'achieved', by allowing Kuwaiti moslem men to have non-moslem sex slaves]!

Quote:

Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery to protect men from "adultery or corruption"
.....We want our youth to be protected from adultery,” said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.

This is not religiously forbidden,” she added

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/kuwait-female-political-activist-calls-for-legalizing-sex-slavery-to-protect-men-from-adultery-or-co

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:43pm

ANOTHER ONE! ANOTHER MOSLEM MONSTER....

THIS TIME, RESIDENT IN NYC.....

Quote:

NYC jihad mass murder plotter fired from job tutoring elementary schoolers

April 7, 2015

“Accused Terrorist Who Plotted Bombing Campaign Fired From Job Tutoring Kids,” by Katie Honan, DNAinfo, April 7, 2015:

JACKSON HEIGHTS — An accused wannabe terrorist who allegedly plotted to detonate bombs across the city was fired from her job as an instructor for elementary school-aged kids at a test prep center, the school announced on Saturday.

Asia Siddiqui lost her job as an English-Language Arts tutor at 82nd Street Academics on 35th Avenue after officials there were informed of her arrest on April 2, according to the center.

“Ms. Saddiqui (sic) was hired in January as a temporary worker to teach in our Test Prep program, which prepares students for the New York State tests,” the school said in a statement. “She did not work in Early Childhood or any other position for the school.”

Siddiqui was a tutor for third through fifth graders, according to Frances Galvez, the assistant administrator for programing.

She was hired in January and cleared all background checks, Galvez said.

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Siddiqui, 31, along with her former roommate, Noelle Velentzas, 28, plotted terror attacks across the city and were in communication with al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP, prosecutors said.

The pair discussed setting off bombs at the funeral for Det. Wenjian Liu after seeing the huge gathering at the funeral for his partner, Det. Rafael Ramos, the U.S. Attorney’s Office said.

Siddiqui, who prosecutors said had propane gas tanks, bomb-making chemicals and instructions on how to use them as explosive devices at her home in South Jamaica, also bragged to an undercover officer about her language skills.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/nyc-jihad-mass-murder-plotter-fired-from-job-tutoring-elementary-schoolers

THESE MONSTERS LIVE AMONG US.

THEY ALL SELF IDENTIFY, AS MOSLEMS.

n.b.
It is the EMPOWERMENT of moslems, which always causes the 'RADICALISATION' of moslems.

Whenever moslems 'perceive' that Allah has 'provided' moslems an 'opportunity' to engage in Jihad, we should expect that moslems [in increasing numbers] >> will << engage in 'Jihad operations' against us ['disbelievers'] !!!

WHY SO ?

ALL MOSLEMS ARE TAUGHT - BY ISLAM - THAT [When Allah provides moslems with an 'opportunity'] THEY SHOULD EXHIBIT A 'RIGHTEOUS' NEVER-ENDING ENMITY AND HATRED FOR ALL DISBELIEVERS.

THIS TEACHING COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE KORAN

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"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:46pm

AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF THESE MOSLEM MONSTERS, HERE IN AUSTRALIA....

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Watch a group of moslem children, being coached by moslem adults, to hate Australia, and Australians,
......HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA. !!!!

And of course this cultural coaching of moslem children is all happening behind closed doors, and out of the public eye.

Muslims brainwash children in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

THESE MONSTERS LIVE AMONG US.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:48pm

ANOTHER ONE! ANOTHER MOSLEM MONSTER HIDING IN THE HIGHEST ECHELONS OF KENYAN SOCIETY....

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Garissa university gunmen is son of Kenya government official
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1428287887/0#0

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THESE MONSTERS LIVE AMONG US.

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Yadda said....

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/21#21

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17

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The heart of ISLAM is the Koran [and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].

SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ;

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Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:51pm

These moslem MONSTERS live among us, here in Australia....

Quote:

Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

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Yadda said....

Quote:

QUESTIONS;

If some moslems are good people, then why do moslems themselves, choose to associate themselves with the evil, which clearly ISLAM is, and promotes ?

If moslems are good people, then why do moslems themselves, choose to associate themselves with a violent criminal philosophy, ISLAM ?

Are some 'innocent' moslems claiming that they are unaware of the evil and violence which ISLAM promotes ?

How credible is such a claim ?

How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a >> moslem <<, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

A moslem, is a person who chooses to embrace a philosophy, ISLAM, which tells moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to lie to, to plunder and to rob, to rape, to enslave, and to kill those, who do not believe, as they believe.

If as some would claim, that individual, non-radicalised moslems are good people, then, again, why do those 'good' people, choose to associate themselves with ISLAM ???

n.b.
According to ISLAM itself, a good 'moslem', is defined as a person who chooses to embrace the tenets and laws of ISLAM.

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Yadda said....

Quote:

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.

And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!"

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 7:51pm

Could this be the next coffee shop shooter?
Reply #3 - Today at 6:51pm

mothra wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:51pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Who's the idiot/idiots letting these maggots in the country?

He was born here.

Yes, and we allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

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Yadda said....

Quote:

ISLAMIC LAW teaches - EVERY MOSLEM - that murdering those who are not moslems [i.e. those who reject ISLAM], is a lawful act.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 7:55pm

Waheed-Ahmed - UK, Muslim politician’s son

Quote:

UK: Muslim politician’s son arrested for trying to join the Islamic State

April 15, 2015 8:41 pm By Robert Spencer

No doubt everyone assumed that Waheed Ahmed was moderate and rejected all that.

Shakil Ahmed is “shocked,” so everyone still believes that he didn’t learn at home a smidgen, not a jot or a tittle, of the beliefs and assumptions that led him to try to join the Islamic State.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/uk-muslim-politicians-son-arrested-for-trying-to-join-the-islamic-state

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

Dictionary;
monster = = a large, ugly, and frightening imaginary creature. an inhumanly cruel or wicked person.

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AT THE HEART OF ISLAM, IS AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE & ENCOURAGEMENT TO VIOLENCE....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/25/article-0-1FF53F8400000578-353_634x351.jpg

'Aussie' moslem, Mohamed Elomar, in Syria/Iraq.

A moslem, in his preferred 'environment'.

Doing 'good works', in 'the cause of Allah'.

A MOSLEM HOMICIDAL MANIAC - 'AT HOME ON THE RANGE' WHERE THE LAWS OF ALLAH PREVAIL

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 3:18pm

https://cofda.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/yasir-qadhi.jpg?w=750&h=725
IMAGE....

Yasir Qadhi (aka Abu Ammaar Yasir Kazi) - is a college professor in the USA

n.b.
What Yasir Qadhi is publicly [i.e. among moslems] sanctioning and encouraging is totally 'lawful' to moslems.
[.....that is what he will claim, anyway]

Quote:

U.S. imam: Muslims can take the property of Christians and Jews
Posted on November 9, 2013

.....This hate-spewing man is not only an imam (the word means a teacher of Islam) but a college professor in Tennessee!

If a Christian preacher or college professor had said this about another religious group — Jews, or Buddhists, or Muslims — it would be the leading news on all the mainstream media.

https://cofda.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/u-s-imam-muslims-can-take-the-property-of-christians-and-jews/

n.b.
".....If a Christian preacher or college professor had said this about another religious group — Jews, or Buddhists, or Muslims — it would be the leading news on all the mainstream media."

I'm sure that Hot Breath and mothra would be decrying those murderous Christian preachers here on OzPol too! :)

But its OK folks.

Coz its only a 'misunderstood' moslem, who is telling anyone who will listen, that killing Jews and Christians is totally kosher.

FURTHER.....

Quote:

......He says, since “there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah wuzza wuzza,” Christians are “by necessity and by definition … the most evil of all evils.”

Like all “unbelievers” and “polytheists,” Christians are “filthy.”

They are “najusa” (feces, urine) — “a filthy impure dirty substance.”

Qadhi declares that the prophet Mohammad — and by extension all Muslims — “has been commanded to do jihad.”

What is jihad?

Jihad “is a means to establish monotheism on the land.”

The prophet had said, “I have been commanded to fight the people until they” convert to Islam.

But “if they don’t [convert to Islam,] their life and property are halal [free for the taking] for the Muslims.”

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

Dictionary;
monster = = a large, ugly, and frightening imaginary creature. an inhumanly cruel or wicked person.

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Yadda said....

Quote:

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 9:56am

WHAT OUR HOLY KORAN MAKES LAWFUL TO US MOSLEMS, LET NO KUFFAR HOST SOCIETY TRY TO TELL US MOSLEMS, THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING, IS UNLAWFUL, OR WE WILL RIGHTFULLY KILL YOU!.....

WE ARE MOSLEMS.

AND WE MOSLEMS ARE GROWING STRONGER.

YOUR WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE LAWFUL TO US.....

Quote:

UK: Muslim abducts, rapes woman: “You white women are good at it”
Dec 21, 2014 08:20 pm | Robert Spencer

According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50).

The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war” (33:50).

4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general, as does this passage.

“Certainly will the believers have succeeded: They who are during their prayer humbly submissive, and they who turn away from ill speech, and they who are observant of zakah, and they who guard their private parts except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed” (Qur’an 23:1-6).

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/uk-muslim-abducts-rapes-woman-you-white-women-are-good-at-it

A MOSLEM 'RAPE-FEST' IS OCCURRING IN EUROPE TODAY.

WHY SO, WHY IS IT OCCURRING ?

QUESTION;
AREN'T THE MOSLEM YOUTH [WHO ARE THE CHILDREN OF MOSLEM IMMIGRANTS], GRATEFUL TO THE EUROPEANS, FOR GIVING THEIR PARENTS A PLACE OF SANCTUARY, A SAFE COUNTRY, FOR MOSLEMS TO LIVE IN ?

ANSWER;
WHEN MOSLEMS FIND SAFETY [AND ARE ABLE TO GATHER THEIR INTRINSIC MOSLEM 'FORCE'], THEY ARE ABLE TO REVERT TO TYPE; MOSLEM

QUESTION;
HAS THIS EPIDEMIC OF THE MOSLEM RAPE, OF NON-MOSLEM WOMEN IN EUROPE, GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM ?

ANSWER;
EVERYTHING!

Many left orientated social academics and left orientated sociologists [who hold great sway in the West, upon government social policies] will assert that the pestilence of sex crimes, among moslem youth, has got nothing to do with ISLAMIC culture.

Such claims are total lies.

ISLAMIC culture teaches every moslem man, that terrorising disbelievers with rape is lawful.

And those sex crimes are sanctioned by verses in the Holy Koran.

It can 'legitimately' be argued [by 'the moslem'], that rape of non-moslem women, becomes a legitimate 'expression' of HOLY Jihad, against the enemy of the moslems.

Google;
bilal skaf, rape, uncovered women, no right to say no

Google,
"rape jihad"

http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/[/size]

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We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs - AND SANCTIONS THE RAPE OF NON-MOSLEM WOMEN, AS LAWFUL.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by The Outrage Bus on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 9:56am

Yawns

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 10:08am

AS WE MOSLEMS GROWN STRONGER, WE HEAR IN OUR EARS, YOUR FEARFUL PLEAS, 'LET US LIVE IN PEACE!, LET US LIVE IN PEACE!', COMING FROM YOUR LIPS,

BUT WE MOSLEMS KNOW [OUR HOLY KORAN TEACHES US], THAT WE SUPERIOR PEOPLE CAUSE YOU [GUILTY] KUFFAR TO TREMBLE AT OUR PRESENCE.

ALLAH AKBAR! ALLAH AKBAR!....

Quote:

France: Mayor of town where jihadi slashed cop says it was “isolated incident”
Dec 21, 2014 07:38 pm | Robert Spencer

“The mayor, Frédéric Augis, described the attack as ‘an isolated event in a peaceful town’.

‘There are good relations here between all religious communities. This is a town of peace,’ he said.”

This is always the case, is it not?

They are all towns of peace.

It’s a religion of peace, too.

And they’re all isolated incidents.

The world is overrun these days with isolated incidents.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/france-mayor-of-town-where-jihadi-slashed-cop-says-it-was-isolated-incident

Quote:

2010-Sep-27 Mon 9:44 am

"Mohammed told his followers that the earth and everything on it belonged to Allah.

Since everybody but Mohammedans were infidels or kuffars (non-believers), Allah has awarded their lands, property, women and children to the true believers.

This provided the 'theological' justification for divinely approved criminality of every kind....

This tradition of Allah giving the Mohammedans permission take whatever they like from the infidels continues to the present day.

All their ever-growing demands are just asking for what they regard as rightfully theirs in the first place, and the infidels can expect no thanks for giving it to them.

Living with Islam is about give and take - we give, they take.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/8080-computers-worth-18-million-paid-for-by-american-taxpayers-go-missing-in-iraq/comment-page-0#comment-714357

ISLAM's mainstream doctrines ....teach - every - moslem [from childhood] that Jihad [i.e. 'lawful' murder and mayhem and terror, against disbelievers] is the path to their success, and, that it is completely lawful for moslems to 'Jihad', and take what disbelievers possess......

Quote:

“......if they don’t [convert to Islam,] their life and property are halal [free for the taking] for the Muslims.”

quote above, is cited here....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425385069/15#15

"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
Nay, We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44

"And He made you heirs to their land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27

The reference, 'their property', in the Koran verse above, also includes the wives and the female children [forcefully taken from disbelievers], by moslems.

...for a reference to the rape of non-moslem women being made 'lawful' by mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine, see also post # 16, this thread,

AND, evidence of the promotion and practice, TODAY, of the rape of non-moslem women [by moslem men], being presented as 'lawful', see posts, this thread,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425385069/7#7
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425385069/8#8

.

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 10:22am

Yadda wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 10:08am:

AND, evidence the promotion and practice, TODAY, of the rape of non-moslem women [by moslem men], [is] being presented as 'lawful', see posts, this thread,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425385069/7#7
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425385069/8#8

Yadda said....
".....the promotion and practice, TODAY, of the rape of non-moslem women [by moslem men], [is] being presented as 'lawful',....."

n.b.
The rape of non-moslem women is being promoted and presented as 'lawful' to moslems, NOT ONLY by ISIS.

But it is also being OPENLY promoted and presented within a mainstream Gulf State, as being 'lawful' to moslem men.

cited here ----------- >

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425385069/8#8

.

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by The Outrage Bus on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 10:43am

Why are you quoting yourself

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 10:47am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 10:43am:

Why are you quoting yourself

Of course, because Yadda is the only person Yadda believes where Islam and Muslims are concerned? Everybody else is a turncoat/traitor/collaborator/hater of Christianity (as decreed by Y.)/disbeliever. ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 7:19pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 10:43am:

Why are you quoting yourself

Coz, it would be irrational of me, to quote the argument of someone like you.

box-on-wheels,

Can you point to a post that you have made, here on OzPol, that expresses a logical argument or counter argument ?

e.g.
Can you form a counter argument against the view that ISLAM makes the rape non-moslem women, lawful to moslem men ?

Quote:

and my arguments here -------- >

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425385069/16#16

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 7:29pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 7:19pm:

box-on-wheels,

Can you point to a post that you have made, here on OzPol, that expresses a logical argument or counter argument ?

Oh!!!!!!!!

Here is one one of his posts!

Here is box-on-wheels, on a public forum, deep in free and open public debate about an important topical issue ---------- >

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425385069/17#17

:)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:20am

Moslems in Australia

Quote:

Muslim who said “Australian government needs to stop picking on the Muslims here” arrested on jihad terror charges
Dec 24, 2014 10:28 am | Robert Spencer

He said, “In order for me to be connected to the values here of Australia, the Australian government needs to stop picking on the Muslims here” — in other words, he would be loyal to Australia if Australia did nothing to stop jihad terror activity. Now it appears that he wanted the Australian government to “stop picking on the Muslims here” so that jihad terror activity could go on undetected and unimpeded.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/muslim-who-said-australian-government-needs-to-stop-picking-on-the-muslims-here-arrested-on-jihad-terror-charges

AND...

Quote:

Australia: Muslims planned to “turn Blue Mountains into killing ground”
Dec 26, 2014 04:39 pm | Robert Spencer

Sulayman Khalid said, “In order for me to be connected to the values here of Australia, the Australian government needs to stop picking on the Muslims here” — in other words, he would be loyal to Australia if Australia did nothing to stop jihad terror activity. Now it appears that he wanted the Australian government to “stop picking on the Muslims here” so that jihad terror activity could go on undetected and unimpeded.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/australia-muslims-planned-to-turn-blue-mountains-into-killing-ground

Whenever a secular, non-moslem jurisdiction tries to resist and prevent local moslem Jihad violence, it is the non-moslems, who devout moslems, label as the criminals.

an explanation of the ISLAMIC 'logic' which moslems have embraced, to justify such an argument, is presented here;
".....Aggression is something only infidels do.
.....it is not seen as aggression or war when Muslims attack non-Muslims.
On the contrary, it is seen as aggression when non-Muslims resist the Islamization of their lands and thus "place obstacles in the way" of the spread of Islam."
and...
"...The sister for one of the convicted men said...that the sentence is not fair to her community or religion.
...her brother liked to watch videos of moslems beheading non-moslems, and now he can't,
...And it's just not fair!!"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1430472561/15#15

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:28am

Moslems, in Norway

Quote:

Norway: Muslims planned to enter random family’s house, cut their throats and post the video on the Internet
Sep 23, 2014 04:30 pm | Nicolai Sennels

Translated from Fyens: Centrally placed sources told the Norwegian television and radio station NRK that militants who probably sympathize with the Islamic State this summer planned to kill a whole family with knives, film it and publish it as a warning….

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/norway-muslims-planned-to-enter-random-familys-house-cut-their-throats-and-post-the-video-on-the-internet

'militants' = = MOSLEMS

.

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:35am

Moslems, in France.

Quote:

France: Muslim enters police station, screams “Allahu akbar,” stabs officer in the face
Dec 20, 2014 01:14 pm | Robert Spencer

Not that this has anything to do with Islam, of course. “French police kill knife-wielding man who stabbed officer in the face,” i24News, December 20, 2014: Man entered police station, screamed ‘Allahu Akbar’, attacked policemen French police on Saturday shot dead a man who attacked them with a knife in a police station while shouting “Allahu Akbar” (“God is great” in Arabic), a source said.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/france-muslim-enters-police-station-screams-allahu-akbar-stabs-officer-in-the-face

“Strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah”
Qur’an 8:60

Drive these MONSTERS out of Europe.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:45am

Moslems in the UK

UK powerless to stop Islamic child marriage, IN THE UK

Quote:

UK AUTHORITIES ALLOWING THE SPREAD OF SHARIA LAW, TRYING TO APPEASE LOCAL MOSLEMS....

UK powerless to stop Islamic child marriage
Dec 21, 2014 08:46 pm | Robert Spencer

The UK can do nothing to stop this because the UK does not have the will to stop the advance of jihad and Sharia in Britain.

The Home Office will act against counter-jihadists such as Pamela Geller and me, but wouldn’t dare enrage its increasingly aggressive Muslim population by moving against child marriage.

Few things are more abundantly attested in Islamic law than the permissibility of child marriage.

Islamic tradition records that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/uk-powerless-to-stop-islamic-child-marriage

Drive these MONSTERS out of Europe.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:56am

Moslems in France

Dijon-hit-and-run-jihad

Quote:

France: Muslims in car screaming “Allahu akbar” mow down 12 pedestrians
Dec 21, 2014 04:22 pm | Robert Spencer

...French non-Muslims are going to have to get used to this sort of thing being a daily occurrence.

“Pedestrians mowed down by a motorist Dijon shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,'” by Jean-Marc Leclerc, Le Figaro (translated), December 21, 2014

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/france-muslims-in-car-screaming-allahu-akbar-mow-down-12-pedestrians

AND...

Quote:

France: Jihadi who ran down pedestrians “acting for the children of Palestine”
Dec 21, 2014 07:08 pm | Robert Spencer

“The suspect is ‘apparently imbalanced and had been in a psychiatric hospital’, a source close to the investigation said.”

The same thing is being said about the NYPD cop killer, and has been said about so many other Muslims who commit violence.

Yet there is another common thread that never seems to concern anyone.

This jihadi screamed “Allahu akbar.”

Bilal Nzohabonayo also screamed “Allahu akbar.”

Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley had on his Facebook page an image of the Qur’an open to the verse “Strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah” (8:60).

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/france-jihadi-who-ran-down-pedestrians-acting-for-the-children-of-palestine

“Strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah”
Qur’an 8:60

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:45pm

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Gandalf. ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by silverado6x6 on May 8^th, 2015 at 12:53am

Nationwide anti Islam cartoon drawing contests, draw them out.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:43am

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia?

Hot_Breath,

Why is the behaviour of many moslems, always so 'typical' ?

Why do we [who are not moslems] 'typically' expect bad behaviour from 'the moslem' ?

FOR EXAMPLE.....

September 30, 2007
Schoolgirls in Lancashire and Yorkshire are falling prey to sinister gangs of pimps.
"....the gangs are largely made up of men from the Pakistani Muslim communities,"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece
google

AND HERE WE HAVE THE EXAMPLE OF TYPICALLY 'HELPFUL' MOSLEMS.......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-09/police-say-two-girls-gang-raped-at-fairfield/5377134?section=nsw
2014-04-09

Quote:

Two schoolgirls gang-raped at Fairfield after meeting three men on Sydney train, police say
By police reporter Lucy Carter

Updated 1 hour 18 minutes ago

Two schoolgirls have been gang-raped by three men in broad daylight in Sydney's south west, police say, and there are fears the men could strike again.

According to police, the girls, both 16, skipped school in the Blacktown area to go shopping at Castle Hill.

....Superintendent Peter Lennon says they asked three men for directions and were told they would be shown to a bus terminal.

"The girls were lost, they were trying to get some help," Superintendent Lennon said.

"Unfortunately they were coaxed by these young men into coming to Fairfield - way, way off track of where they wanted to go."

......Superintendent Lennon the men had been described as being of "Middle Eastern Mediterranean" appearance.

The first male is described as being aged between 19 and 21 with a dark complexion, about 178cm tall, and with a thin build and dark hair.

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MOHAMMED'S EXAMPLE.....

Quote:

"We went out with Allah's Messenger" = = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women" = = it was some form of raiding party, where they, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them" = = hmmmm, i wonder what that means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives" = = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust.

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them." = = in their minds, they sought to sexually 'use' these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them.

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them" = = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.

Those [above] extracts from the Hadith are cited, with references, here;

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8

.

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah [i.e. Mohammed] a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah."
Koran 33.021

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:47am

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia?

Hot Breath,

Today, everyone [who has not lived under a stone for the last 20 years] knows what mainstream ISLAM really promotes;

ISLAM promotes the ideal that every 'good' moslem should [when Allah gives him an 'opportunity'] seek to be a homicidal maniac, to kill infidels, for the glory of Allah.

[And, ISLAM promotes the idea that only apostate moslems would openly [and sincerely] oppose such behaviour.]

So Hot Breath,

If your argument is, that the typical [or atypical] moslem is a good and peaceable person, then why does he still insist that he is a moslem [a follower of ISLAM] ?

Why does such a person still insist that - HIS DESIRE - is to associate himself with ISLAM ?

My argument is, that it is totally, not credible, that your typical [or atypical] 'on the street' moslem [who lives in Australia], does NOT understand or know what his obligations to ISLAM are.

Yadda wrote on May 3^rd, 2015 at 10:30am:

ISLAM promotes the moral 'concept', that a condition of 'peace' among mankind can be achieved, through moslems having and taking up their 'lawful' right to murder people - but only those people who moslems deem to be bad - and moslems deem those persons to be 'bad', because they are not moslems.

The tenets and laws of ISLAM promote achieving 'peace' among mankind [i.e. ISLAMIC supremacism], through oppression, terror and murder.

Moslems are not honest people.

Not honest with us.

And not honest with themselves.

Yadda said....

Quote:

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a >> moslem <<, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

To my mind, it is not credible at all.

And yet, moslems [even moslems who live within secular nations] refuse to denounce and to leave ISLAM.

.

"....Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion.."

November 10, 2008
Raymond Ibrahim: "Islam's Doctrines of Deception"

Quote:

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels, this is summarized by the Most High's Word: ‘We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us -- till you believe in Allah alone’ [Koran 60:4].

So there is an enmity, evidenced by fierce hostility from the heart. And this fierce hostility -- that is, battle -- ceases only if the infidel submits to the authority of Islam, or if his blood is forbidden from being shed [i.e., a dhimmi], or if Muslims are at that point in time weak and incapable [i.e., taqiyya]. But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy! Such, then, is the basis and foundation of the relationship between the infidel and the Muslim. Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion. And we consider this a justice and kindness to them" (from The Al Qaeda Reader).
.....It bears repeating that this hostile world view is well supported by all of Islam’s schools of jurisprudence."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/11/raymond-ibrahim-islams-doctrines-of-deception.html

.

Moslems are not honest people.

Not honest with us.

And not honest with themselves.

[b]ISLAM is not a benign, and peaceful religion!

Moslems are - intentionally - misrepresenting ISLAM to us [non-moslems].

Ask yourself, why are moslems doing that ?

Why are moslems seeking to deceive us ?

Why are moslems - INTENTIONALLY - misrepresenting ISLAM to us ?

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:53am

Brian Ross wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:45pm:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Gandalf. ::)

You mean the gandalf who not infrequently, imo, misrepresents ISLAM to those who read the posts he makes on OzPol ???

gandalf has nothing to be proud of, imo.

Every single moslem that i have engaged in debate with [about ISLAM and about the behaviour of moslems] has proven [to me], that he is willing to intentionally misrepresent [to me and to other non-moslems], the intent of ISLAM [and to misrepresent the 'methods' which ISLAM/moslems are willing to use to pursue their nefarious aims].

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1430472561/15#15

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1428710611/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1428710611/26#26

Moslems are not honest people.

Not honest with us.

---------- >

Quote:

"Peace summarises everything in Islam, because it means

submitting your will to God,

so you acquire peace through it," he said.

"When I'm following its [i.e. ISLAM's] teachings,

I know that my own actions are in line with what my creator wants,

and hence I am at peace with myself, [with] my community and the rest of the world."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/darwins-muslim-community-tackles-discrimination-at-meeting/6025586?section=nt

EXAMPLE - of moslems promoting ~~ISLAM~~ 'peace' in Australia.....

------------- >

IMAGE....

"Mr Yunus has been encouraging peaceful community bridging since starting his post as Darwin's Islamic leader in 2014."

Mr Yunus is a typical moslem.

Mr Yunus is a typical follower of ISLAM.

Mr Yunus is intentionally misrepresenting ISLAM to us [to all Australians], in those public statements which he has made.

Moslems are not being honest with us.

And moslems are not honest with themselves.

ISLAM is a false religion, for a false people, for a false person.

A moslem.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 8^th, 2015 at 12:09pm

Yadda wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:43am:

AND HERE WE HAVE THE EXAMPLE OF TYPICALLY 'HELPFUL' MOSLEMS.......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-09/police-say-two-girls-gang-raped-at-fairfield/5377134?section=nsw
2014-04-09

Quote:

QUESTION;
Why do i, Yadda, use the reports of those rapes, as a means to criticise MOSLEMS ???

Don't people who are NOT moslems, ALSO COMMIT RAPES ?

ANSWER/EXPLANATION;
YES, people who are NOT moslems, ALSO COMMIT RAPES.

But, this is how ISLAM portrays the character of EVERY moslem;

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

EVEN MOSLEM MEN WHO RAPE INFIDEL WOMEN, ARE PORTRAYED BY ALLAH, AS RIGHTEOUS !!!

PROOF, THAT ISLAM SANCTIONS THE RAPE OF NON-MOSLEM WOMEN ???

THAT PROOF, IS CITED HERE ---------- >

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421158879/6#6

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on May 8^th, 2015 at 12:40pm

Yadda wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:43am:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia?

Hot_Breath,

Why is the behaviour of many moslems, always so 'typical' ?

Why do we [who are not moslems] 'typically' expect bad behaviour from 'the moslem' ?

Because you're Islamophobic? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?
It doesn't follow, Halitosis Boy.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 13^th, 2015 at 10:27am

Evidence emerges, that a German Government Minister is living in La La land, aka, Germany.

------------- >

Quote:

German Finance Minister: “People are right to fear Islamist terrorism. But not Islam”
Dec 28, 2014 08:08 am | Robert Spencer

But “Islamist terrorism” arises from Islam.

Or does Schaeuble think it is just as likely to emerge from the Lutheran churches as from the mosques?

How does Schaeuble propose to separate the Islam that he considers benign from the Islamist terrorism he regards as malignant?

.....German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble said on Saturday that immigration is good for the country

and politicians must explain better that everyone stands to gain from it,

in response to the rise of a new movement opposing an influx of Muslim immigrants.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/german-finance-minister-people-are-right-to-fear-islamist-terrorism-but-not-islam

Dictionary;
la-la land = =
1 Los Angeles or Hollywood, especially with regard to the film and television industry.
2 a dreamworld.

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

Why would anyone believe that ISIS has any significant 'representation' or support, within a secular society like ours, when we know, that our society is populated only by a community of moderate, tolerant moslems [....and, of course, we filthy infidels] ???

:D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:48pm

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?

No, you can reject it, you can criticise it but you don't have to it ALL THE TIME! You don't seem to talk about anything else. Is it because of your Islamophobia Soren? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 13^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?

No, you can reject it, you can criticise it but you don't have to it ALL THE TIME! You don't seem to talk about anything else. Is it because of your Islamophobia Soren? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

I just like rejecting it. It is so objectionable that it is a pleasure and a sport to repudiate it. I also like to deflate the AGW bedwetter and the 'progressive comrades'.

I like rejecting stupidity wherever it's found, you might say. And since you are steeped in every idiocy, you hassle me for it all the time.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on May 13^th, 2015 at 5:34pm

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?

No, you can reject it, you can criticise it but you don't have to it ALL THE TIME! You don't seem to talk about anything else. Is it because of your Islamophobia Soren? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

How long have you been rejecting yourself then Soren? Because you're one of the most silly and foolish people I've ever encountered. You keep denying you're Islamophobic yet keep posting Islamophobia! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 13^th, 2015 at 6:58pm

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 5:34pm:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?

No, you can reject it, you can criticise it but you don't have to it ALL THE TIME! You don't seem to talk about anything else. Is it because of your Islamophobia Soren? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

;D ;D
You talk as if you or what you think mattered.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 13^th, 2015 at 6:59pm

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?

No, you can reject it, you can criticise it but you don't have to it ALL THE TIME!

You can criticise Islam part-time only.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 14^th, 2015 at 3:33pm

Why would anyone believe that ISIS has any significant 'representation' or support, within a secular society like ours, when we know, that our society is populated only by a community of moderate, tolerant moslems [....and, of course, we filthy infidels] ??? :D

'Aussie' moslem - Zaky-Mallah - A PRODUCT OF THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY OF AUSTRALIA

You know, if you [a human being] nurture a 4 inch salt water crocodile, as a house pet, you may get a few painful nips from those teeth.

But when that 4 inch salt water crocodile, grows into a 2-3 metre salt water crocodile, that 2-3 metre salt water crocodile will kill you, WITHOUT ANY REMORSE.

Even though you nurtured it, for all of its life, from a hatchling.

It is not possible to domesticate or 'tame' a salt water crocodile.

It is not possible to change the basic nature of a salt water crocodile.

And likewise, a self-declared moslem, is always a moslem.

And, a self-declared moslem, is always a creature [enthralled] of ISLAM.

Quote:

Muslim from Australia: “Martin Place was just the beginning for you dogs”
Dec 28, 2014 07:56 am | Robert Spencer

That is probably true.

There will almost certainly be more jihad terror attacks in Australia.

The Islamic State has called for them, and nothing much is being done to prevent them — least of all any attempt to compel mosques and Islamic schools in Australia to teach against the Islamic State’s understanding of Islam, even though they ostensibly reject that understanding.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/muslim-from-australia-martin-place-was-just-the-beginning-for-you-dogs

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"
- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

.

Quote:

" "You're never too young to be a soldier of Kalifah."

...and [these moslem children] promise to die fighting to end Democracy in Australia"

Says one of these MONSTERS.

The above, was transcribed from this YT ------------- >

Watch a group of moslem children, being coached by moslem adults, to hate Australia, and Australians,
......HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA. !!!!

And of course this cultural coaching of moslem children is all happening behind closed doors, and out of the public eye.

------------- >

Muslims brainwash children in Australia -------- > goto 43 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

Yadda paraphrases;

< ---------

YOU'RE NEVER TOO YOUNG TO BE A FILTHY, STINKING, DECEITFUL MOSLEM!

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 14^th, 2015 at 10:28pm

IN THE UK: More moslem impersonators, pretending to be moderate moslems!!!!! :D

THESE MOSLEM IMPERSONATORS, EVEN WENT TO THE MOSQUE EVERY FRIDAY, SO AS TO TRY TO FOOL THE REAL MOSLEMS!!!!!!

...........AND APPARENTLY THEY SUCCEEDED!!!!!

Quote:

UK: Neighbor says people at house raided by counter-terror police “go to the mosque every Friday”
Dec 30, 2014 03:24 pm | Robert Spencer

“They go to the mosque every Friday.”

What? But David Cameron has told the UK’s Muslims that jihad terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.

How could they have misunderstood the teachings of that renowned imam?

And why didn’t the vast majority of peaceful Muslims in the Bedford mosque rise up against these jihad terror plotters and turn them in?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/uk-neighbor-says-people-at-house-raided-by-counter-terror-police-go-to-the-mosque-every-friday

Why would anyone believe that ISIS has any significant 'representation' or support, within a secular society like ours, when we know, that our society is populated only by a community of moderate, tolerant moslems [....and, of course, we filthy infidels] ??? :D

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

By definition, every moslem subscribes to the tenets and laws and the 'ideals', which are promoted by ISLAM and by Allah's prophet.

That, is the essential definition of a 'moslem'.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on May 15^th, 2015 at 11:11am

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?

No, you can reject it, you can criticise it but you don't have to it ALL THE TIME!

You can criticise Islam part-time only.

Yep. You can only devote 10% of your time online to it's criticism Soren! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 16^th, 2015 at 5:10pm

|dev|null wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?

No, you can reject it, you can criticise it but you don't have to it ALL THE TIME!

You can criticise Islam part-time only.

Yep. You can only devote 10% of your time online to it's criticism Soren! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Like the Islamic support for free speech - only 10%.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on May 18^th, 2015 at 11:04am

Soren wrote on May 16^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 9:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Why do you keep assuming the atypical of Muslims is typical of Muslims Y.? Does it satisfy your islamophobia? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Who is a typical Muslim, ijit? Do you have a specimen?

Look down your street, well not literally, YOUR street Soren but a typical Australian street and I'm sure you'll find a typical Australian Muslim under someone's bed! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So Islam must not be criticises or rejected?

No, you can reject it, you can criticise it but you don't have to it ALL THE TIME!

You can criticise Islam part-time only.

Yep. You can only devote 10% of your time online to it's criticism Soren! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Like the Islamic support for free speech - only 10%.

Yet all Muslims in Australia, with the exception perhaps of the tiny minority of hardliners, welcome freedom of speech accorded to them by Australian law Soren. When did you last ask a Muslim any questions in person? Ever? I suspect not! ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 21^st, 2015 at 9:31pm

|dev|null wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Yet all Muslims in Australia, with the exception perhaps of the tiny minority of hardliners, welcome freedom of speech accorded to them by Australian law Soren.

;D ;D ;D

I can see how you managed to be dunce of your primary school, Li'l Brain.

Big of them to welcome the freedoms we afford them and it is easy to be for the freedom of speech of people they agree with. The issue, however, is whether they respect other people's freedoms, especially non-Muslim's freedom of expression, even if they don't like hearing or seeing what these non-Muslims express.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 21^st, 2015 at 11:20pm

Soren wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 9:31pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Yet all Muslims in Australia, with the exception perhaps of the tiny minority of hardliners, welcome freedom of speech accorded to them by Australian law Soren.

Do you respect the Muslims' Freedom of Speech, Soren? I suspect not... ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Karnal on May 21^st, 2015 at 11:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 11:20pm:

Soren wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 9:31pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Yet all Muslims in Australia, with the exception perhaps of the tiny minority of hardliners, welcome freedom of speech accorded to them by Australian law Soren.

Do you respect the Muslims' Freedom of Speech, Soren? I suspect not... ::)

He won’t answer that. It’s too sensitive a question. You know, like whether you support porkie pies.

After all, no one has the right not to be offended.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am

Brian Ross wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 11:20pm:

Soren wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 9:31pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 18^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Yet all Muslims in Australia, with the exception perhaps of the tiny minority of hardliners, welcome freedom of speech accorded to them by Australian law Soren.

Do you respect the Muslims' Freedom of Speech, Soren? I suspect not... ::)

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

But the question is - does Islam respect freedom of speech, regardless of who speaks and what is said.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Quote:

But the question is - does Islam respect freedom of speech, regardless of who speaks and what is said.

Islam does nothing about who speaks or what they say, Soren.

It is what Muslims do. Most Muslims don't care what you say or who you are. A small minority do, just like you do, Soren. ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Gawd, you can still surprise me with your stupidity. Freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to agree or support with what they say, fathead.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Quote:

But the question is - does Islam respect freedom of speech, regardless of who speaks and what is said.

Islam does nothing about who speaks or what they say, Soren.

It is what Muslims do....

.... in the name of Islam.

They are invariably Allahu Akhbaring when killing cartoonists, Dutch film makers etc. Big clue, that, Allahu Akhbaring. Unmistakable. They want to shut them up for Allah.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:23pm

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Gawd, you can still surprise me with your stupidity. Freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to agree or support with what they say, fathead.

But you have to accept that they have the right to say it, Soren. Something you demonstrably do not do. ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:25pm

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Quote:

But the question is - does Islam respect freedom of speech, regardless of who speaks and what is said.

Islam does nothing about who speaks or what they say, Soren.

It is what Muslims do....

.... in the name of Islam.

In their claims about the "name of Islam", Soren.

Quote:

They are invariably Allahu Akhbaring when killing cartoonists, Dutch film makers etc. Big clue, that, Allahu Akhbaring. Unmistakable. They want to shut them up for Allah.

You do know what what "Allahu Akbar" means, don't you, Soren? "God is Great". Nothing more, nothing less. ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:23pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Gawd, you can still surprise me with your stupidity. Freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to agree or support with what they say, fathead.

But you have to accept that they have the right to say it, Soren. Something you demonstrably do not do. ::)

How do you figure I demonstrated that, numpty?

Go on, surprise us even more.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:25pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Quote:

But the question is - does Islam respect freedom of speech, regardless of who speaks and what is said.

Islam does nothing about who speaks or what they say, Soren.

It is what Muslims do....

.... in the name of Islam.

In their claims about the "name of Islam", Soren.

[quote]
They are invariably Allahu Akhbaring when killing cartoonists, Dutch film makers etc. Big clue, that, Allahu Akhbaring. Unmistakable. They want to shut them up for Allah.

You do know what what "Allahu Akbar" means, don't you, Soren? "God is Great". Nothing more, nothing less. ::)
[/quote]
Must be Arabic speaking Lutherans then, what?

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:30pm

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:23pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Gawd, you can still surprise me with your stupidity. Freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to agree or support with what they say, fathead.

But you have to accept that they have the right to say it, Soren. Something you demonstrably do not do. ::)

How do you figure I demonstrated that, numpty?

Go on, surprise us even more.

Your continual and persistent persecution of anything and anybody who has anything to say positively about Islam, Soren. ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Karnal on May 23^rd, 2015 at 4:29pm

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Gawd, you can still surprise me with your stupidity. Freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to agree or support with what they say, fathead.

Quite so, old boy. You may not agree with what they have to say, but you'd fight to the death for their right to be banned.

Freeeeedom, innit.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:30pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:23pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 9:29am:

I respect freedom of speech, full stop. Who you are or what you say is besides the point.

So, why are you continually attacking Muslims for what they say, Soren?

Gawd, you can still surprise me with your stupidity. Freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to agree or support with what they say, fathead.

But you have to accept that they have the right to say it, Soren. Something you demonstrably do not do. ::)

How do you figure I demonstrated that, numpty?

Go on, surprise us even more.

Your continual and persistent persecution of anything and anybody who has anything to say positively about Islam, Soren. ::)

This is idiotic. Disagreeing about Islam in principle is
1. persecution
2. denial of freedom of speech.

You are saying that I should support fascism, totalitarianism, dictators when someone says something positive about them.

I love to see you disclosing just how completely corrupt and bankrupt the ideas are that you speak for.

Carry on.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm

Criticise the individuals, Soren, not the collective. Criticise the individual Islamists, not all Muslims. Get the difference? Or does your Islamophobia prevent you from differentiating between the Muslims who are good and those that are bad? ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Criticise the individuals, Soren, not the collective.

Tribal identity, separatism, apartness, segregation. anachronistic ghettos.

No support for them.

Individuals must not be allowed to hide behind their sectarian group identities.

So the answer is bVgger orf.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:48pm

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Criticise the individuals, Soren, not the collective.

Good to see you applying your Islamophobia to the problem, Soren.

"your Islamophobia prevents you from differentiating between the Muslims who are good and those that are bad..." ::) ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 23^rd, 2015 at 8:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Criticise the individuals, Soren, not the collective.

Good to see you applying your Islamophobia to the problem, Soren.

"your Islamophobia prevents you from differentiating between the Muslims who are good and those that are bad..." ::) ::)

You are an idiot.

I am an Idiotophobe.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 23^rd, 2015 at 11:47pm

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 8:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:48pm:

Soren wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Criticise the individuals, Soren, not the collective.

Good to see you applying your Islamophobia to the problem, Soren.

"your Islamophobia prevents you from differentiating between the Muslims who are good and those that are bad..." ::) ::)

You are an idiot.

I am an Idiotophobe.

I think you mean Islamophobe, Soren. ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 24^th, 2015 at 10:55am

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Criticise the individuals, Soren, not the collective. Criticise the individual Islamists, not all Muslims.

I am criticing Islam.

Not allowed?

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on May 24^th, 2015 at 1:18pm

Soren wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Criticise the individuals, Soren, not the collective. Criticise the individual Islamists, not all Muslims.

I am criticing Islam.

Not allowed?

Of course it is allowed, except when it borders on a mania in your case, Soren. Is it any wonder we have diagnosed "Islamophobia" for your case? ::)

Then there is the problem, invariably your criticisms go on about Muslims, not Islam... ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 24^th, 2015 at 5:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 1:18pm:

Soren wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Criticise the individuals, Soren, not the collective. Criticise the individual Islamists, not all Muslims.

I am criticing Islam.

Not allowed?

I criticise Islam and anyone who takes it to heart, whether Muslims or a PC pillock like you.

No lapsed Muslim or apostate would be ever offended by what I say, they would all agree with me. So you are talking tosh, as ever.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 25^th, 2015 at 7:53am

Do you believe that moslems in Australia, would have more compassion [than Qatari moslems] for INFIDELS who were under their 'righteous' authority ?

Qatari moslems consider these Nepalese INFIDELS to be bonded workers [indentured workers], akin to slaves, for the period of their work contracts!!!

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24 May 2015
Qatar refuses to let Nepalese workers return to attend funerals after quake

Nepalese minister says Fifa must pressure the Gulf state for better treatment of 1.5 million south Asian migrants

Nepalese workers building stadiums for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar have been denied leave to attend funerals or visit relatives following the earthquakes in the Himalayan country that have killed more than 8,000 people, its government has revealed.

.....Their plight has once again been in the headlines.

Last week it was reported that a BBC crew had been arrested and detained for two days while filming a report on the conditions of south Asian workers in the Gulf state.

Amnesty International published a report on Thursday saying that Qatar had failed to deliver on a range of promises to improve conditions and introduce new legislation covering migrant workers.

This included abolishing the kafala system – which ties workers to their employers for a set period, during which they cannot change jobs without permission.

....
".....we are a small, poor country and these powerful organisations are not interested in listening to us"

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/24/qatar-denies-nepalese-world-cup-workers-leave-after-earthquakes?CMP=twt_gu

[a 'bonded' worker protocol ....."the kafala system – which ties workers to their employers for a set period, during which they cannot change jobs without permission."]

AND, the reality is, that many, many 'Aussie' moslems would [still] support a foreign worker protocol like the one which is in place in Qatar !!!!!

Why so ?

Because such a protocol is sanctioned by, and complies with, ISLAMIC law, and every moslem [in Australia] is a moslem, ....a follower of ISLAM.

We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

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Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 25^th, 2015 at 8:17am

Moslems in Denmark, conscientiously seeking to integrate themselves into Danish society.

NOT!

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Life in the ghetto: “Danes can not even sit on their balcony and eat a pork sandwich”
May 24, 2015 , by Nicolai Sennels

‘It is simply not attractive [for Danes to live here].

Yes, we have some students who give it a chance, but they move out of here again as soon as they can.

… Ethnic Danes feel unsafe here, and I understand that.

They can not even sit out on the balcony and eat a pork sandwich or set a Danish flag on the table without the risk of being accosted.’

‘I hear them, for example. say they [local moslems] hate Denmark and the Danes.

And here we are talking about young people who are born and raised in Denmark.

When I ask them how they can hate people they have never met, they reply that the Danes are racists who hate Muslims.

… I simply do not believe our society can bear this developlent, if this mentality continues to spread over the next 10-20 years.

… the youths are attracted by radical religious environments and immigrant gangs, where they come together to hate Denmark.’“

http://10news.dk/?p=1298

Yadda says;
Why would anyone believe that ISIS has any significant 'representation' or support, within a secular society like ours, when we know, that our society is populated only by a community of moderate, tolerant moslems [....and knowing, of course, that moslems desire, to live in state of peaceful co-existance with we filthy infidels] ??? :D

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We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

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Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on May 25^th, 2015 at 8:54am

Saudi Arabia is reportedly planning to make a bid to head the United Nations' Human Rights Council

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

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Saudi Arabia 'seeking to head United Nations Human Rights Council'
Roisin O'Connor
Thursday 21 May 2015

Saudi Arabia is reportedly planning to make a bid to head the United Nations' Human Rights Council, in a move that has been described as the "final nail in the coffin for the credibility" of the HRC.

....The country will move to assume lead control over the HRC after 2016 when the presidency is awarded to a new nation.

UN Watch, a non-profit human rights group that monitors the international body, disclosed Saudi Arabia’s intentions in a recent report and urged the United States to fight against it.

Hillel Neuer, executive director of UN Watch, said that the move was liable to be "the final nail in the coffin for the credibility of a body that already counts dictatorships like China, Cuba and Russia as members, and whose [HRC] top advisor is co-founder of the Muammar Qaddafi Human Rights Prize".

"We urge US Ambassador Samantha Power and EU foreign minister Federica Mogherini to denounce this despicable act of cynicism by a regime that beheads people in the town square, systematically oppresses women, Christians, and gays, and jails innocent bloggers like Raif Badawi for the crime of challenging the rulers’ radical brand of Wahabbist Islam," Neuer added.

"Electing Saudi Arabia as the world’s judge on human rights would be like making a pyromaniac as the town fire chief."

....Rates of human trafficking [i.e. SLAVERY] are high in Saudi Arabia, and the kingdom is currently designated by the United States as a "country of particular concern" regarding religious persecution.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/saudi-arabia-reportedly-seeking-to-head-united-nations-human-rights-council-10267783.html

FOR OUR EDIFICATION;
This is how ISLAM / moslems portray the moral character of EVERY moslem ----- >

EVEN MOSLEM MEN WHO RAPE INFIDEL WOMEN, ARE PORTRAYED BY ALLAH, AS RIGHTEOUS !!! :D

How so ???

Because ISLAM itself determines and declares, that moslems are, innocent and righteous people.

In the moslem mindset, how can someone [i.e. a moslem] who mimics the behaviour of their prophet, Mohammed, have done anything but that which is a righteous act !! ?

That is it.

ISLAM itself determines and declares, that ALL moslems are, innocent and righteous people.

So [ideally] no other evidence must ever be allowed to contradict this 'righteous' 'determination'.

Yadda says;
Why would anyone believe that ISIS has any significant 'representation' or support, within a secular society like ours, when we know, that our society is populated only by a community of moderate, tolerant moslems [....and knowing, of course, that moslems desire, to live in state of peaceful co-existance with we filthy infidels] ??? :D

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We allow these monsters to live among us.

They are called moslems.

Moslems follow a 'faith' which praises homicidal maniacs.

So what do you think that most of them are going to aspire to be ???

DUH!

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

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Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on May 31^st, 2015 at 2:24pm

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:48pm

Look at any crowd scene of Islamic protests and you will see the faces of dull, stupid fanatics.

Look at a crowd of Islamic protesters and then look at a photo of, say, Australians walking for reconciliation.

And believe the difference.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Karnal on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 11:35pm

They’re tinted?

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 1:26pm

Soren wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:48pm:

Look at any crowd scene of Islamic protests and you will see the faces of dull, stupid fanatics.

a sectarian (like a lot of sunnis and shites and Lefty progressives) who will judge you not as an individual but as a member of a tribe or class.

Remember the golden rule:

- lefties/muslims overgeneralising and judging individuals as members of a tribe/class = contemptible sectarianism.

- Soren overgeneralising and judging individuals as members of a tribe/class = perfectly legitimate.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by moses on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 3:36pm

There are commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an and hadi'th which consecrate committing human rights atrocities as a sacred path for muslims.

All muslims who refuse to decry these commands, teachings and verses, most definitely can be grouped with the islamic rapists, terrorists, torturers and mass murderers. (they are providing the moral support for the physical depravity urged by islam)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 6:19pm

moses wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 3:36pm:

Care to explain the contradictions then between what you claim Islam says about suicide and what Islam actually says about suicide Moses?

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slam
See also: Istishhad

Islam, as with other Abrahamic religions, views suicide as one of the greatest sins and utterly detrimental to one's spiritual journey. A verse in the Quran instructs;

"And do not kill yourselves, surely God is most Merciful to you."
— Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 29 [11]

Most Muslim scholars and clerics consider suicide forbidden and similarly include suicide bombing as being equally forbidden.

Abu Dawud: "This puts suicide bombing and suicide into proper perspective within Islamic traditions, ultimately denouncing suicide of any form."[citation needed]

The prohibition of suicide has also been recorded in statements of hadith, (sayings of Muhammad). For example:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire."
—Sahih al-Bukhari, 2:23:446

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Whoever purposely throws himself from a mountain and kills himself, will be in the (Hell) Fire falling down into it and abiding therein perpetually forever; and whoever drinks poison and kills himself with it, he will be carrying his poison in his hand and drinking it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever; and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, will be carrying that weapon in his hand and stabbing his abdomen with it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever."
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:71:670

Furthermore, Jafar al-Sadiq, the sixth Shia Imam, has said the following with regards to suicide[citation needed]:

Abi Walad said, I heard Aba Abd Allah say: “Whoever kills himself, intentionally, he will be in the fire of hell for eternity.”

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_on_suicide#Islam]
;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 6:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:48pm:

Look at any crowd scene of Islamic protests and you will see the faces of dull, stupid fanatics.

Just so everyone knows, this sweeping broad-brushing of an entire community is not to be confused with that other sweeping, broad-brushing Soren calls 'sectarianism'. For that heinous crime is only committed by dastardly muslims and 'progressives'.

[quote author=soren2 link=1430987464/38#38 date=1431593446]
a sectarian (like a lot of sunnis and shites and Lefty progressives) who will judge you not as an individual but as a member of a tribe or class.

Not the 'entire community'. Just the ones who go to Islamic protests.

Thanks for deliberate misrepresentation. It is bad if you knew you were doing it, worse if you didn't.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:19pm

Oh I'm sorry S - you weren't actually implying that the protesting muslims were mindless/fanatic automatons because muslims in general are mindless/fanatic automatons - in a similar way to how you ascribe every last individual woman who dons a hijab as a mindless campaigner for barbaric laws.

No, of course not Soren - its not like you at all to imply in any way that muslims generally are blind, mindless and/or fanatics is it? in fact you were pointing out what a contrast these muslims make to muslims in the wider community - amrite? :P

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by moses on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:20pm

HotBreath wrote:
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Care to explain the contradictions then between what you claim Islam says about suicide and what Islam actually says about suicide Moses?

One verse out of the qur'an is your excuse for the death cult?

The following are a few of the commands of allah which unequivocally teach that death in the cause of allah is a sacred duty of muslims.

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qur'an 3.157: And if you are killed in the cause of Allah or die - then forgiveness from Allah and mercy are better than whatever they accumulate [in this world].

qur'an 3.158: And whether you die or are killed, unto Allah you will be gathered.

qur'an 3.169: And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord,receiving provision,

qur'an 3.195: And their Lord responded to them, "Never will I allow to be lost the work of [any] worker among you, whether male or female; you are of one another. So those who emigrated or were evicted from their homes or were harmed in My cause or fought or were killed - I will surely remove from them their misdeeds, and I will surely admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow as reward from Allah , and Allah has with Him the best reward."

qur'an 4.74: Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the cause of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.

qur'an 9.111: Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.

qur'an 47.4: So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.

Every single verse above is referring to physically murdering people or dying in the act of slaughtering other humans.

I'm very comfortable with my statement: There are commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an and hadi'th which consecrate committing human rights atrocities as a sacred path for muslims.

All muslims who refuse to decry these commands, teachings and verses, most definitely can be grouped with the islamic rapists, terrorists, torturers and mass murderers. (they are providing the moral support for the physical depravity urged by islam)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:29pm

moses wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

Every single verse above is referring to physically murdering people or dying in the act of slaughtering other humans.

Prove this statement in relation to verse 3:157 please.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:44pm

moses wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

HotBreath wrote:
Quote:

Care to explain the contradictions then between what you claim Islam says about suicide and what Islam actually says about suicide Moses?

One verse out of the qur'an is your excuse for the death cult?

Nope. I'm interested in your explanation. Sometimes a question is just a question Moses! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

So, what is your reaction to the Christian concept of a sacrifice of one's life being sacred? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:48pm

Moses no doubt condemns all those christians who let themselves be fed to the lions.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by moses on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:59pm

Gandalf wrote:
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Prove this statement in relation to verse 3:157 please.

O.K.

qur'an 3.156: O you who have believed, do not be like those who disbelieved and said about their brothers when they traveled through the land or went out to fight, "If they had been with us, they would not have died or have been killed," so Allah makes that [misconception] a regret within their hearts. And it is Allah who gives life and causes death, and Allah is Seeing of what you do.

Clearly 156 is in effect saying: The muslims who went out to fight and found death would still be alive if they had stayed at home.

What was muhammad's response?

qur'an 3.156:And if you are killed in the cause of Allah or die - then forgiveness from Allah and mercy are better than whatever they accumulate [in this world].

Which unequivocally states that those musims who went out to fight and gave their life, receive forgiveness and mercy from allah.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by moses on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm

HotBreath wrote:
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Nope. I'm interested in your explanation. Sometimes a question is just a question Moses

There's nothing to explain as you've just learned, you quoted one verse as an excuse, I responded with 7 (there are more) which venerate the islamic act of muslims finding death while slaughtering their fellow human beings.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:12pm

moses wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

HotBreath wrote:
Quote:

Nope. I'm interested in your explanation. Sometimes a question is just a question Moses

I note you avoided my question. Why? Was it too difficult? :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by moses on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:14pm

7 to 1 in favour of muslims seeking death while slaughtering the fellow humans, is the answer

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm

Still avoiding the question Moses! You're real brave! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by moses on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:30pm

The explanation remains the same: A single verse in the qur'an which is refuted by a factor of 7 to 1 (actually there are more) remains just that, a single verse contradicted many times over in the qur'an.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:11pm

moses wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

Clearly 156 is in effect saying: The muslims who went out to fight and found death would still be alive if they had stayed at home.

'going out to fight' can mean defending yourself against invasion - agreed? I suppose this can technically be interpreted as "slaughtering other humans" - but it would be rather misleading wouldn't you agree?

The rules of engagement have been spelled out clearly in other parts of the Quran which makes it abundantly clear that self defense is the only permissible form of fighting. You exposed your misunderstanding of these conditions before, so lets not go over that again.

You are also being blatantly dishonest by trying to pretend that there are not two activities that are mentioned in relation to this martyrdom - "travelling through the land" (from your own translation), as well as fighting.

Even if all your baseless assumptions from non-existent Quranic verses about the true meaning of "fighting" in Islam were perfectly accurate - making the leap and say that this particular verse unquestionably means "physically murdering people or dying in the act of slaughtering other humans" - is tenuous to say the least.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Not implying any such thing.

WHat I am saying is that the mobs who participate in Islamic protests about cartoons, youtube vids, and are jiving about dissing da prophet etc ARE low-brow, low IQ, knuckle-dragging nice people and you can tell by looking at them.

Look at these two clowns, carrying on as if they were secertly determined to mock and ridicule Islam. They are complaining about people mocking them for their beards!!!! PRICELESS. They do look like a pair d!ckheads. As if you could take such drongos seriously.

Video embedded at this Daily Mail page:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106029/They-actually-dancing-street-music-Hardline-Muslim-video-slams-pop-bakery-specialises-Middle-Eastern-treats-encouraging-people-fun.html

Ridiculous and frightening at the same time. This is what you are up against, Gandy, these are the people who are f Vcking up all your 'statements of concern', and all your feeble appeals to the non-existent mainstream. These are the conviction Muslims. They are saying NOTHING doctrinally incorrect.

What is it about hair, Gandy? Men show off they stupid beards, women cover up their natural hair? Is islam some sort of offshoot of the Jewish secret society of hairdressers??

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:21pm

Morons debating words in a book if certain acts are condoned or not is moronic, because other morons don't give a poo and are themselves using the words in the book to condone their activities and they don't care that other morons think that their interpretations are wrong.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:30pm

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

WHat I am saying is that the mobs who participate in Islamic protests about cartoons, youtube vids, and are jiving about dissing da prophet

Oh look, Soren's shifted the goalposts already.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:46pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:30pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

WHat I am saying is that the mobs who participate in Islamic protests about cartoons, youtube vids, and are jiving about dissing da prophet

Oh look, Soren's shifted the goalposts already.

Thanks for the taqiyya, pal.

Soren wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:48pm:

BE REAL, BRO. It's all in the facial hair.

CAREFUL, BRO!!

I want to cut and style hair:

Greenacre Muslims brothers are forming a protective ring around Muslim bakery...... It's all about ~~Peace~~ Submission, innit?

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 8:44pm

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:46pm:

Thanks for the taqiyya, pal.

You seem to be having difficulty understanding your own deceit.

On June 2 you said muslims at "Islamic protests" (universally) act like mindless zombies.

Some time between then and today it must have dawned on you that "Islamic protests" consist of more than just cartoon and prophet offending protests. For example muslims are quite keen on protesting against oppression and occupation - you know, reasonable things to protest about. Your original statement came across - presumably even to you - as somewhat sweeping and (dare I say it) "sectarian", so you quietly adjusted it and - yes - shifted the goalposts.

Poor Soren, the man who condemns people who refuse to treat people as individuals - by.... refusing to treat people as individuals :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 8:44pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:46pm:

Thanks for the taqiyya, pal.

Only Muslims oppress and occupy Muslims, nobody else - see Syria, Iraq, Yemen, anywhere.

All the Islamic protests are about crap issues like Cartoons, books vids. There is no Muslim groundswell for secular democracy, no Muslim masses are calling for the separation of politics from the Koran.

The bearded numpties of Greenacre ARE mainstream Islam.

Frightening.

Islamics are low-brow dickheads.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 10:15pm

Are you applying to become the new President of FIFA, Soren?

You seem to be having as much fun as Mr. Blatta, moving the goal posts around the playing the field! ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 7:10am

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

Only Muslims oppress and occupy Muslims, nobody else - see Syria, Iraq, Yemen, anywhere.

The Rhohingiya are listed by the UN as one of the most oppressed people on earth.

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

There is no Muslim groundswell for secular democracy

certifiable stool.

The largest muslim country on earth is a secular democracy - by popular demand.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:18am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 8:44pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:46pm:

Thanks for the taqiyya, pal.

Islamic protests is not Muslims protesting.

It is Muslims protesting in the name of Islam, in defence of the honour of da prophet, invariably prompted by some perceived slight in the form of a book, cartoon or some such. See the Sydney Islamic protests in 2012, the ones in England, Denmark, Germany, France.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 10:12am

I'm sorry Soren, are you saying there are never any "Islamic" protests against say Israel's occupation or Amerika's occupation of Iraq?

Strange, I could have sworn a couple of my local Imams had organised several suspiciously "Islamic" protests against the treatment of the Rohingya recently.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 10:45am

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 8:44pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:46pm:

Thanks for the taqiyya, pal.

Only Muslims oppress and occupy Muslims, nobody else - see Syria, Iraq, Yemen, anywhere.

Let us not forget the oppression of Muslims in France, Netherlands, Denmark, Soren. Nor should we forget the oppression of Muslims here in Australia from individuals like yourself! Funny how you ignore your own and Yadda and Moses and Baronvert and FD, to name the more prominent Islamophobes who post here. ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D ;)

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All the Islamic protests are about crap issues like Cartoons, books vids. There is no Muslim groundswell for secular democracy, no Muslim masses are calling for the separation of politics from the Koran.

Except in Turkey, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, to name a few of the "Arab Spring" nations Soren. Funny how you ignore their efforts.... ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

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Islamics are low-brow dickheads.

I wonder what they say about you Soren? Something equally complimentary perhaps? ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:08am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 7:10am:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

Only Muslims oppress and occupy Muslims, nobody else - see Syria, Iraq, Yemen, anywhere.

The Rhohingiya are listed by the UN as one of the most oppressed people on earth.

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

There is no Muslim groundswell for secular democracy

certifiable stool.

The largest muslim country on earth is a secular democracy - by popular demand.

Yeah, Indonesia, .....that moslem country, a bastion of democratic, and liberal values, ......NOT!

Google;
indonesia, burn churches

Google;
indonesia, murder christians

Moslem clerics, in Indonesia are teaching moslem children.....

“People who worship anything other than Allah are infidels and it is permitted to kill them.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/people-who-worship-anything-other-than-allah-are-infidels-and-it-is-permitted-to-kill-them

"Jakarta (AsiaNews/Agencies) – The Religious Affairs Ministry banned the distribution of an Islamic religious textbook for high school grades that contain radical religious notions."

Funny though, how the ISLAMIC text book [sanctioning the 'lawful' murder of non-moslems] was only banned - AFTER ITS EXISTENCE IN INDONESIAN HIGH SCHOOLS WAS PUBLICLY EXPOSED.

Checkout news reports from secular, liberal, democratic, Indonesia.....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/category/indonesia

And checkout news reports from secular, liberal, democratic, Malaysia.....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/category/Malaysia

You are not a sincere person, gandalf.

And nothing that you declare can be taken as truthful.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:16am

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:08am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 7:10am:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

Only Muslims oppress and occupy Muslims, nobody else - see Syria, Iraq, Yemen, anywhere.

The Rhohingiya are listed by the UN as one of the most oppressed people on earth.

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

There is no Muslim groundswell for secular democracy

certifiable stool.

The largest muslim country on earth is a secular democracy - by popular demand.

Yeah, Indonesia, .....that moslem country, a bastion of democratic, and liberal values, ......NOT!

Considering that it was a dictatorship before, under Suharto, I think Indonesia can be considered a project in process as far as it's democracy is concerned Y.

Are you denying that they elect their local and national leaders?
Are you denying that they have a Parliament, which they elect the members to?
Are you denying that they have a separate judiciary to review Indonesian legislation to make sure it stays within their Constitution?
Are you denying that political rights are determined by their Constitution?

Get back to us, Y. when you actually have an answer to those questions...

You might have an understanding how democratic Indonesia is! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:18am

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:08am:

Yeah, Indonesia, .....that moslem country, a bastion of democratic, and liberal values, ......NOT!

Google;
indonesia, burn churches

Google: Australia, burn mosques.

Must mean that Australia's not secular/democratic/liberal - right?

If Indonesia doesn't fit the definition of secular and democratic, then the terms have lost all meaning.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by double plus good on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:26am

In Indonesia young couples get arrested for kissing and hugging in public. Indonesia is a religious dictatorship.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Hot Breath on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:35am

double plus good wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

In Indonesia young couples get arrested for kissing and hugging in public. Indonesia is a religious dictatorship.

In Aceh, which is ONE province of Indonesia perhaps. In the whole of Indonesia, a secular nation? I haven't witnessed it when I've visited.

Quote:

Other countries which frown upon public displays of affection include China, Singapore and Sri Lanka.

In 2003, officials in Moscow announced they were considering banning kissing in public places 'to improve morals'.

[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-591942/Indonesia-bans-kissing-public.html#ixzz3c9C84eZT]

So, you going to criticise those other nations for not liking public displays of affection? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:36am

In Australia you will get arrested for being naked in public.

Having laws that disagree with your moral sensibilities has nothing to do with whether a country is secular and democratic.

Indonesians are perfectly free to elect a government who will rescind these laws.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:48am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:18am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:08am:

Yeah, Indonesia, .....that moslem country, a bastion of democratic, and liberal values, ......NOT!

Google;
indonesia, burn churches

Google: Australia, burn mosques.

Who has burnt down a mosque, here in Australia ???

Where in Australia, have mobs destroyed a mosque ???

NOWHERE.

Your implied accusations against Australians have no credibility gandalf.

WHEREAS -------- >

Google;
muslim, burn mosque, play hate crime fraud

Google;
muslim, fake anti-muslim hate crimes

Google;
muslim, anti-muslim hate crime hoaxes

Very different from the religiously sanctioned [by ISLAM] violence, being committed by moslems.....

Google;
indonesia, burn churches

Google;
indonesia, murder christians

Moslems who murder infidels [in Indonesia, or in other places in the world], are simply following their religion, and being righteous moslems.

THAT IS THE TRUTH.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1418244166/15#15

Quote:

You mean that we [infidels, on OzPol] are guilty of 'stereotyping' members of the Australian mainstream moslem community!!!!

Shock horror!!!!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....moslems!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....ISLAM [and with ISLAM's laws and tenets] !

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

Moslems don't change.

It is only our opinion of them, which can change.

FILTHY, STINKING, DECEITFUL, WARMONGERING MOSLEMS.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 12:26pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

Who has burnt down a mosque, here in Australia ???

Where in Australia, have mobs destroyed a mosque ???

The Kuraby mosque in Brisbane was thought to be the first mosque in the world that was attacked by arsonists after 9/11:

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s705071.htm

The Towoomba mosque was attacked by arsonists twice this year.

The Islamic Centre in Canberra was vandalised last year causing around $100k of damage.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 7:58pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

Who has burnt down a mosque, here in Australia ???

Where in Australia, have mobs destroyed a mosque ???

And have any moslems been charged yet, with those arson and vandalisation offences ?

Google;
muslim, burn mosque, play hate crime fraud

Google;
muslim, fake anti-muslim hate crimes

Google;
muslim, anti-muslim hate crime hoaxes

.

AND THE EXAMPLE OF OUR VERY OWN CATMEAT SHIEK ---------- >

"There is a trick in this film/camera!"

WATCH THE EVIDENCE OF THIS SHAMELESS, LYING MOSLEM....

Re Sheik Hilali,
PLEASE WATCH THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO.....

Sheik Hilaly Caught vandalizing his own Mosque goto 5m 55s,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9O5KPI4qTI

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:01pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

Who has burnt down a mosque, here in Australia ???

Where in Australia, have mobs destroyed a mosque ???

And have any moslems been charged with those arson and vandalisation offences yet ?

You have evidence that Muslims actually undertook these crimes, Yadda? ::)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:11pm

Yadda don't be shy - if you have any evidence that those mosque attacks I mentioned were carried out by muslims, then lets see it.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:11pm:

Yadda don't be shy - if you have any evidence that those mosque attacks I mentioned were carried out by muslims, then lets see it.

gandalf,

There is a mountain of evidence, which implicates moslems, in murders [of fellow moslems, of wives, of their own children] and in arson attacks, which moslems blamed as 'hate crimes' against their community [to attract sympathy to the moslem 'vitims'] - but in many cases, those crimes were in fact shown to have been crimes of violence, COMMITTED BY MOSLEMS THEMSELVES.

CRIMES, COMMITTED BY FILTHY, STINKING, DECEITFUL MOSLEMS.

.

Google;
deceit, muslims faking anti-muslim hate crimes

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Whywhyhuh on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:39pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

Who has burnt down a mosque, here in Australia ???

Where in Australia, have mobs destroyed a mosque ???

Did you see the way they vandalized the Islamic Centre in Canberra. It must have taken them hours. They broke every tea cup to make sure they got a good payout. You can google the photos online.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Yadda on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:51pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:11pm:

Yadda don't be shy - if you have any evidence that those mosque attacks I mentioned were carried out by muslims, then lets see it.

gandalf,

Don't you think that this type of behaviour by moslems [of falsely accusing non-moslems of violent hate crimes against moslems], is shameful ?

Don't you believe that this type behaviour, of reckless deceit, by moslems, is likely to incite acts of violence [i.e. terrorist attacks] BY MOSLEMS against innocent members of the non-moslem host community ?

Because moslems, have been falsely portraying themselves as the victims of anti-moslem persecution and violence.

Don't you believe that that UTTERLY DECEITFUL behaviour by moslems, is shameful ?

Would you like to condemn, here, that utterly reprehensible deceit, by many, many moslems ?

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by gandalf on Jun 6^th, 2015 at 7:44am

Yadda wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 8:11pm:

Yadda don't be shy - if you have any evidence that those mosque attacks I mentioned were carried out by muslims, then lets see it.

A simple "no I don't" would have sufficed, but anyway...

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on Jun 6^th, 2015 at 10:18am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 5^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 8:44pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:46pm:

Thanks for the taqiyya, pal.

Only Muslims oppress and occupy Muslims, nobody else - see Syria, Iraq, Yemen, anywhere.

Poor petals, a few people disagree with Islam and express their dislike for it and - the horror! - mock their beards and so da Muslims feel 'oppressed'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106029/They-actually-dancing-street-music-Hardline-Muslim-video-slams-pop-bakery-specialises-Middle-Eastern-treats-encouraging-people-fun.html

How else are they oppressed in the West? They are given every opportunity. They are just not given a free run.

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by moses on Jun 6^th, 2015 at 11:17am

[Gandalf wrote: Reply #94 - Jun 4th, 2015 at 7:11pm

Quote:

I would put your reply in the same basket as the tired old **it's got nothing to do with islam, islam is a religion of peace, it's written in Arabic you can't translate it. They're only a tiny minority, muslims are the victims etc. etc.

To try and gloss over one verse (out of a myriad of verses which urge human rights atrocities) as probably meaning to kill and be killed in self defence only is as stupid as all the rest of the excuses and apologies for islamic atrocities committed in accordance with the muslim's doctrine.

Self preservation is a natural instinct common to all animals and humans. Nothing or nobody needs to be reminded of it's absolute importance to survival.

Yet here you are trying to excuse the, muslims are to slay and be slain islamic doctrine, as nothing more than muslims had to told they must leave their homes and go forth to defend themselves. Illogical and nonsensical rubbish.

The verse is the same as all the others, Plainly encouraging muslims to go forth and kill people, with the added enticement of **if you're killed while doing this, allah will most definitely accept you into paradise where the houri's with the big tits are waiting**

I'm still very, very comfortable with my statement: There are commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an and hadi'th which consecrate committing human rights atrocities as a sacred path for muslims.

All muslims who refuse to decry these commands, teachings and verses, most definitely can be grouped with the islamic rapists, terrorists, torturers and mass murderers. (they are providing the moral support for the physical depravity urged by islam)

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Soren on Jun 12^th, 2015 at 8:38pm

Take us seriously!!! Or at least take our BEARDS sriously!!

OR ELSE...

Title: Re: These monsters live among us - in Norway, and in A
Post by Karnal on Jun 13^th, 2015 at 9:20pm

Oh, I know, old boy.

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