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Message started by Julius Abbott on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:20pm

Title: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Julius Abbott on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:20pm
The authorities are on to you morons:

Jay-Leighsa Bauman faces court, accused of online abuse of lawyer Mariam Veiszadeh



An Ipswich woman alleged to have subjected a prominent Australian Muslim woman to a barrage of religious hate online has made her first appearance in court.

Jay-Leighsa Bauman, 22, appeared in Ipswich Magistrates Court on Wednesday morning, charged with using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence.

The charges stem from an alleged online hate campaign she directed at human rights activist Mariam Veiszadeh in early January.

The allegedly expletive laden, anti-Islam campaign by Ms Bauman was unleashed on Ms Veiszadeh's personal Facebook page, where police will allege she referred to the human rights activist as a whore, a prostitute and a rag-head and urged her to return to her "sand dune country".

Ms Bauman appeared briefly in court on Wednesday, where her case was adjourned until next Tuesday.

It is unknown if she intends to plead guilty or not guilty to the charge.

She made no comment to media as she left court.

The demurely dressed 22-year-old's meek court appearance came in stark contrast to her public Facebook profile, where she appears to remain defiant about her alleged attack on Ms Veiszadeh.

In a post responding to friends urging her to make her page private or to delete her account, Ms Bauman said she had no intention of doing so.

"I may just go ahead and make EVERYTHING public because I'm not fukn scared of a bit of judgement," she wrote.

"And I won't stay silent so YOU can stay comfortable ;)"

Ms Veiszadeh alleges the Ipswich woman was one of a number of people who abused her online earlier this year, after the Australian Defence League targeted her in a post to its 5000 Facebook followers.

Late last year, Ms Veiszadeh, a lawyer, publicly rallied against a Cairns Woolworths store selling a singlet adorned with the Australian flag and the words, "love it or leave", which she perceived to be bigoted and which the ADL subsequently seized upon.

A torrent of online abuse followed, she said, and dramatically escalated after she spoke to Fairfax Media in February, when the charge was laid against Ms Bauman.

However, when she went public with the new threats via her Twitter account, including death threats, an enormous groundswell of support ensued.

Ms Veiszadeh urged her followers to retweet and report the threats using the hashtag created by a friend #IStandWithMariam.

The enormous number of retweets quickly saw the hashtag go viral, reaching the top 10 trending Twitter topics in Australia and saw several accounts shut down.

Ms Bauman is scheduled to return to the same court on March 17.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/jayleighsa-bauman-faces-court-accused-of-online-abuse-of-lawyer-mariam-veiszadeh-20150311-140x9h.html

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Honky on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:27pm
awww poor bubba. 

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by two minutes hate on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Lionel Edriess on Mar 11th, 2015 at 9:32pm


two minutes hate wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???


That's easy!

If you agree with such sentiments you are labelled either 'racist' or 'bigot', and you are targeted for abuse by the multicultural 'luvvies'.

If you disagree with such sentiments, particularly if you are a lawyer with a surname like Veiszadeh, you stand to make the news, further your practice and possibly claim some monetary compensation.

Money for jam.

8-)


Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Honky on Mar 11th, 2015 at 9:59pm
Lawyers are scum, but Human rights lawyers are on another level of scumminess. 

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:14pm

two minutes hate wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???


Can any lefty answer this question?

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:14pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???


Can any lefty answer this question?


Depends on context, Baron.  If you uttered it with your normal level of intent towards Muslims, it could be considered bigoted.  If I uttered it, towards you, it would be considered to be a true statement.   Simples, really and I can understand why you have so much difficulty understanding the concept of, "context," as it invariably tells against you and your attitudes...   ::)

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:14pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???


Can any lefty answer this question?


Depends on context, Baron.  If you uttered it with your normal level of intent towards Muslims, it could be considered bigoted.  If I uttered it, towards you, it would be considered to be a true statement.   Simples, really and I can understand why you have so much difficulty understanding the concept of, "context," as it invariably tells against you and your attitudes...   ::)


How does the t shirt that started this utter any words brian?

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:33pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:14pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???


Can any lefty answer this question?


Depends on context, Baron.  If you uttered it with your normal level of intent towards Muslims, it could be considered bigoted.  If I uttered it, towards you, it would be considered to be a true statement.   Simples, really and I can understand why you have so much difficulty understanding the concept of, "context," as it invariably tells against you and your attitudes...   ::)


How does the t shirt that started this utter any words brian?


By your reading it, Baron?  No, of course not...   ::)

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:33pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:14pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???


Can any lefty answer this question?


Depends on context, Baron.  If you uttered it with your normal level of intent towards Muslims, it could be considered bigoted.  If I uttered it, towards you, it would be considered to be a true statement.   Simples, really and I can understand why you have so much difficulty understanding the concept of, "context," as it invariably tells against you and your attitudes...   ::)


How does the t shirt that started this utter any words brian?


By your reading it, Baron?  No, of course not...   ::)


So being patriotic with a love it or leave it bumper sticker would also be offensive to muslims is that what you are saying?

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 11th, 2015 at 11:55pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:41pm:
So being patriotic with a love it or leave it bumper sticker would also be offensive to muslims is that what you are saying?


As the complaints came from more than just Muslims, Baron, I'd say such a comment was offensive to many people, myself included.   I've affirmed my allegiance to the nation, have you?  Since when does that mean I must necessarily "love it"?   I accept it, warts and all and I'll fight to defend it, warts and all.   Because I don't "love it" mean I have to "leave it"?  Bugger off, Baron.  Keep your jingoism for yourself...  ::)

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Mar 12th, 2015 at 1:24am
Excellent. We "progressives" just hope they never come after us for the tirade of abuse we have hurled Christianity for the past few decades. 

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Mar 12th, 2015 at 1:29am
In all seriousness, the bogans in the pic are the great counter weight to the ruling leftards. The bogan instinctively sees through the moral pretentiousness  of the leftard. It needs no convincing. It's strongest instincts are already aligned with protection of the country from leftist fools.

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Julius Abbott on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:42am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 1:29am:
In all seriousness, the bogans in the pic are the great counter weight to the ruling leftards. The bogan instinctively sees through the moral pretentiousness  of the leftard. It needs no convincing. It's strongest instincts are already aligned with protection of the country from leftist fools.


Australia already has a bogan PM. It is not working out well though is it?

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by moses on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:07pm
Of course all non muslims have absolutely no right to be offended by the hate speech of islam, allah, muhammad, qur'an and hadi'th.

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm

... wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 9:59pm:
Lawyers are scum, but Human rights lawyers are on another level of scumminess. 




Quote:
..........human rights activist Mariam Veiszadeh.......


My stance is a t-shirt supporting your own country is good.

To abuse others is not.

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Hot Breath on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Honky on Mar 12th, 2015 at 4:11pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:

... wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 9:59pm:
Lawyers are scum, but Human rights lawyers are on another level of scumminess. 




Quote:
..........human rights activist Mariam Veiszadeh.......


My stance is a t-shirt supporting your own country is good.

To abuse others is not.


Eh, it's not the best, but how do you feel about abusing your power to ruin some low-budget nobodys life for giving you some petty insults on facebook?

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Postmodern Trendoid II on Mar 12th, 2015 at 9:38pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:42am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 1:29am:
In all seriousness, the bogans in the pic are the great counter weight to the ruling leftards. The bogan instinctively sees through the moral pretentiousness  of the leftard. It needs no convincing. It's strongest instincts are already aligned with protection of the country from leftist fools.


Australia already has a bogan PM. It is not working out well though is it?


Well, if he p*sses you and the other lefties off, then he's obviously doing something right. 

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Hot Breath on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:07pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 9:38pm:
Well, if he p*sses you and the other lefties off, then he's obviously doing something right. 


I thought you were a supposed Lefty?   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Soren on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others  just because they tend to be violent if you criticise or mock them? 
Is that reason enough to treat them as special?

They seem yo think so.
Do you?





Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Yadda on Mar 13th, 2015 at 9:55am

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D


Should Muslims be respected any more than others

just because they tend to be violent if you criticise or mock them? 
Is that reason enough to treat them as special?

They seem yo think so.
Do you?




Moslems believe know that they [moslems] deserve respect [from those who are not moslems].

Q.
And why ?

A.
Because they [moslems] are moslems.



ISLAMIC culture/tenets teach 'the moslem' instil into the psyche of 'the moslem' [from childhood], that 'the moslem' is a virtuous person.

Because they [moslems] are moslems.




Moslems are innocent, and virtuous people.

Q.
How do we know this ?

A.
Because moslems tell us this.            

:D



Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4






+++



"Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Statesman




.





http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/25/article-0-1FF53F8400000578-353_634x351.jpg


Aussie moslem Mohamed Elomar,

...now in Syria/Iraq, having reverted to type - MOSLEM HOMICIDAL MANIAC

'AT HOME ON THE RANGE' WHERE THE 'VIRTUOUS' LAWS OF ALLAH PREVAIL






.




"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by gandalf on Mar 13th, 2015 at 11:37am

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:14pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???


Can any lefty answer this question?


Can anyone recognise a strawman?

(hint: nowhere does it say she said it was racist)

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by two minutes hate on Mar 13th, 2015 at 11:42am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 13th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:14pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
How is a Love It Or Leave It!!!! t shirt racist my muslim sister???


Can any lefty answer this question?


Can anyone recognise a strawman?

(hint: nowhere does it say she said it was racist)
Why is she banging on about it then?

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by two minutes hate on Mar 13th, 2015 at 11:47am
From article- Late last year, Ms Veiszadeh, a lawyer, publicly rallied against a Cairns Woolworths store selling a singlet adorned with the Australian flag and the words, "love it or leave", which she perceived to be bigoted and which the ADL subsequently seized upon


Bigoted to whom?? No one group is targeted because it's a blanket statement. It's referring to all people who put our country last.

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Rhino on Mar 13th, 2015 at 12:01pm

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others  just because they tend to be violent if you criticise or mock them? 
Is that reason enough to treat them as special?

They seem yo think so.
Do you?
Im confused by your claim, nowhere can I find reference to this violence committed by Mariam Veiszadeh or her followers after she was abused, so exactly what violence did she commit or threaten  to commit?

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Hot Breath on Mar 13th, 2015 at 12:08pm

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others  just because they tend to be violent if you criticise or mock them? 
Is that reason enough to treat them as special?

They seem yo think so.
Do you?


Nope but why keep questioning those that aren't violent Soren?  Does it turn you on or something?  I can't think of any other reason myself!   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Soren on Mar 13th, 2015 at 8:53pm

|dev|null wrote on Mar 13th, 2015 at 12:08pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others  just because they tend to be violent if you criticise or mock them? 
Is that reason enough to treat them as special?

They seem yo think so.
Do you?


Nope but why keep questioning those that aren't violent Soren?  Does it turn you on or something?  I can't think of any other reason myself!   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

They are not violent only after they do get violent.

Happens all the time.  With Muslims, it's never as it seems. Resentment has made them all seething victims.

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 14th, 2015 at 12:06am

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others 


Should Muslims be respected any less than others, Soren, simply because they're Muslims?   ::)

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 14th, 2015 at 6:54am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 14th, 2015 at 12:06am:

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others 


Should Muslims be respected any less than others, Soren, simply because they're Muslims?   ::)



Perhaps more pitied.

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Soren on Mar 14th, 2015 at 5:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 14th, 2015 at 12:06am:

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others 


Should Muslims be respected any less than others, Soren, simply because they're Muslims?   ::)



Well, if they are Jihadis, promoters of sharia - yes.

I do not think people who advocate jihad, sharia, Islamic domination should be respected. I don't respect them. Nor do I respect Nazis, Communists, Scientologists, fascists, astrologers, GreenLeft types, child molesters, slave traders, etc

Do you, Brain? Do you respect them?




Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:10am

Soren wrote on Mar 14th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 14th, 2015 at 12:06am:

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others 


Should Muslims be respected any less than others, Soren, simply because they're Muslims?   ::)



Well, if they are Jihadis, promoters of sharia - yes.

I do not think people who advocate jihad, sharia, Islamic domination should be respected. I don't respect them. Nor do I respect Nazis, Communists, Scientologists, fascists, astrologers, GreenLeft types, child molesters, slave traders, etc

Do you, Brain? Do you respect them?


Committed Communists, GreenLeft types I respect, Soren for various reasons.   The others, I treat with the same amount of respect as I treat your views.    ::)

Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Soren on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:10am:

Soren wrote on Mar 14th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 14th, 2015 at 12:06am:

Soren wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2015 at 3:35pm:
To abuse others is not.


Yet abusing people online is OK in your mind, Sprint?  Particularly if they're Muslims, right?    :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Should Muslims be respected any more than others 


Should Muslims be respected any less than others, Soren, simply because they're Muslims?   ::)



Well, if they are Jihadis, promoters of sharia - yes.

I do not think people who advocate jihad, sharia, Islamic domination should be respected. I don't respect them. Nor do I respect Nazis, Communists, Scientologists, fascists, astrologers, GreenLeft types, child molesters, slave traders, etc

Do you, Brain? Do you respect them?


Committed Communists, GreenLeft types I respect, Soren for various reasons.   The others, I treat with the same amount of respect as I treat your views.    ::)



Tut tut, Chipboard for Brain, you must not have blanket opinions of groups of people just because they choose to belong to a group.  You must differentiate between those who are privately fascists and Nazis and those who do it privately.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425336782/67#67


You persecute all of them indiscriminately, you inconsiderate, abusive brute. Persecutor!!! *iii







*(No - silly ass, really)



Title: Re: Hater Faces Court Over Abuse Campaign
Post by Brian Ross on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:47pm

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