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Title: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:42am
Greens NSW promise a $20 billion infrastructure program without public asset sale
Greens NSW launched its election campaign on Sunday, pitching a fully funded $20 billion infrastructure program without the privatisation of the state's electricity assets. In a swipe at both the Liberals, whose $20 billion infrastructure pledge is contingent on privatisation, and the ALP, which the Greens says offers "very little infrastructure", Greens MP John Kaye declared the party could raise billions for local works and job creation. At the University of Technology, Sydney, Mr Kaye announced a fully funded $2.75 billion local infrastructure program over four years to create up to 15,000 jobs and training opportunities, many targeting long-term and young job seekers. "This is about lifting areas like the Far West, the Hunter and the Mid North Coast out of the consequences of decades of failed trickle-down economic policies," he said. Advertisement The $2.75 billion will be spent through local councils and Aboriginal organisations to build and refurbish community infrastructure, including storm-water works, rural bridge and road repair, childcare centres and preschools, sewage systems and bike paths. Mr Kaye added the Greens could raise $20 billion by obtaining a loan that would be serviced and repaid by extra revenue from reinstating the vendors duty on property speculators, higher poker machine taxes, and maintaining duties on large business transactions. "The Greens are prepared to take on property developers, large corporations and the super-profitable registered clubs to provide the money needed to create a new future for neglected communities, young people and the long term unemployed," he said. On Saturday, the Greens announced a plan to provide legal certainty for families and medical professionals around end-of-life treatment. "The Greens will be moving legislation after the election to catch up with the other states and territories and ensure that advanced care directives are protected by the law," Dr Kaye said. "No treating clinician should have to interpret the common law to know if they are protected from prosecution when they follow the wishes of a patient and withhold treatment." Premier Mike Baird, if re-elected, said he would raise $20 billion from the lease of the state's electricity distribution and transmission network to fund an infrastructure program. Opposition leader Luke Foley has promised to spend $10 billion on infrastructure - money raised by from deferring for 10 years a decision by Mr Baird in last year's state budget to abolish a range of business taxes and from "uncommitted" money already in the government's infrastructure fund, Restart NSW. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-state-election-2015/greens-nsw-promise-a-20-billion-infrastructure-program-without-public-asset-sale-20150315-144ck6.html |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by two minutes hate on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:45am
Your ordinary aussie has a soft spot for environmental issues. We all love the Australian environment and spend our lives immersed in it. If that was all your party was about you'd be getting mine and many others vote. But you aren't. Ditch the loonies and you'll start busting the 10% vote mark. Just a piece of advise. Cheers.
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Swagman on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:50am ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:42am:
$20 billion dollar defacto tax increase to drive business investment out of the State? Economic vandalism to the nenth degree.... :( |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:51am
So we have a section complaining that Greens are a one issue party ... and another section complaining it's a multi issue party.
Seems the only logical path for the Greens is government. And that requires a multi issue party. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:55am Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:50am:
Business paying their fair way is the Greens way. Where as the conservatives way is for the community via substandard services, should inflate the profits of multinationals. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by two minutes hate on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:58am ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:51am:
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Swagman on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:58am ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:55am:
Close all the businesses down then and see how prosperous the place is? ::) |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:03pm two minutes hate wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:58am:
Services and infrastructure isn't an interest to the majority? |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:06pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:58am:
Like the carbon levy wiped Whyalla off the map? We all know about conservatives $100 lamb roast slash cities disappearing sort of claims. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by two minutes hate on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:09pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:03pm:
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:10pm two minutes hate wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:09pm:
And where is that a policy? |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by two minutes hate on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:13pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:10pm:
NSW Greens: Boycott apartheid Israel! Wednesday, December 8, 2010 At its State Delegates Council meeting held on December 4 in Sydney, the NSW Greens unanimously endorsed the following proposal: That the Greens NSW call upon all Australians and the Australian government to boycott Israeli goods, trading and military arrangements, and sporting, cultural and academic events as a contribution to the struggle to end Israel's occupation and colonisation of Palestinian territory, |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:17pm two minutes hate wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:13pm:
It's now 2015 ... That policy was dropped in 2011. By dragging that up shows you have little to complain about. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by two minutes hate on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:18pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:17pm:
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Swagman on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:20pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:06pm:
The purpose of the carbon tax was to reduce CO2 emissions wasn't it? The Greens tax on business will reduce business. Reduce business and you drive up unemployment and instead of increased tax revenues you actually get less and with greater welfare expenses. Economic vandalism as I said. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:23pm two minutes hate wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:18pm:
By opposing war crimes committed by Israel. Shame on them. Israel is a rouge state and is hiding behind the US. It's not Greens party position, yet it is mine. I support non violence protest against Israel's apartheid. Same as I opposes South Africa's apartheid. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:26pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Except you missed the part where there was 4.5 billion worth of new clean energy projects in the pipeline, under Labor. Instead we added another 3 billion to the debt paying big polluters to pollute ::) |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:27pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
How does a tax on business reduce that business? It's another input cost, as is electricity ... even if it rises if the voter vote for higher costs under the conservatives, business will handle it. Stop making up wild claims without any facts. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by two minutes hate on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:27pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:23pm:
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Swagman on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:29pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
So how tax a tax on carbon reduce carbon? |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by John Smith on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:31pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
and yet it did :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:35pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
By changing habits. Taxes are a revenue raiser and also a market mechanism to shift behaviour. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:40pm two minutes hate wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
By the reaction of the arab haters, the opposite seems true. The arab haters had to campaign hard to stop people realising the injustice Australians are complicit with via the old parties siding with Israel in UN votes over Palestine being recognised as a State. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Swagman on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:49pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:35pm:
So in other words if you tax something your aim is to increase its price and therefore decrease it's demand so you get less of it? So tax business you make it more expensive to do business so you get less of it. Savvy? |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by imcrookonit on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:51pm
Still waiting for the $550 a year better off. :(
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Swagman on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:53pm wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:51pm:
Your dole payment makes you $550 better off every fortnight Crooky |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by John Smith on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:54pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
no, the aim of the tax was to decrease demand on SOME businesses, thereby switching demand to alternative means ... a tax that covers all businesses doesn't change anyones behaviour (unless the tax is extreme) |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by imcrookonit on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:55pm
Am I unemployed ???. :o
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 1:38pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
Taxing profit doesn't increase the item(s), it decreased the amount the owner(s) receives. It's the cost they pay in being part of the society and profiting from the wider's societies assets. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by ImSpartacus2 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 2:31pm
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by ImSpartacus2 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 2:32pm
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by ImSpartacus2 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 2:32pm two minutes hate wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:58am:
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by ImSpartacus2 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 2:46pm
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by ImSpartacus2 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 2:47pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Any businesses that can't conduct their enterprises without factoring in the cost of tax do not belong in business. The taxpayer cant continue carrying these lame duck businesses wo can't hold their heads up above water without endless handouts and lower tax scales to the tax everyone else is paying. It will be hard at the start but once we weed out these people our economy will be set on a much sounder and resilient footing. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Bam on Mar 15th, 2015 at 3:08pm two minutes hate wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:13pm:
2010. :D Got something more recent? |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Bam on Mar 15th, 2015 at 3:12pm Swagman wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:50am:
Driving poker machines out of NSW wouldn't be a great loss. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Grendel on Mar 15th, 2015 at 4:46pm Bam wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 3:08pm:
Yes more recently The Greens have been targeting Chocolate Shops and their young employees. Rhiannon is always on about Jews and Israel in her own anti-semitic way. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 4:54pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 12:23pm:
Yes, Israel should become a lipstick state like all the others... :D :D |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Redneck on Mar 15th, 2015 at 5:00pm Grendel wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
Not a greens fan but What is wrong with that! Israel = the new NAZIs of 2015 Mongrels!! >:( |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 5:11pm Grendel wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
Then can you supply a current link |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 5:17pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 4:54pm:
Make light of the spelling all you like. http://www.thenation.com/blog/201369/what-about-israels-nuclear-bomb |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by innocentbystander. on Mar 15th, 2015 at 6:51pm
We need to give credit to the greens where credit is due, they have a target audience that gives them 10% of the total vote, they don't go head to head with the major parties, that would be a mistake, instead they seek out the one in ten voters that have issues that the other parties don't cater for, issues like drug dependency, killing unborn children, sharia law, welfare rorting, jew hate, supporting ISIS, stealing from the productive, promoting anal sex and pedophilia, making sure abbos stay in poverty and bulldust, helping bikies to import illegal weapons, supporting the russian mafia ... the list just go's on and on.
The greens court societies weirdos and it has been a successful business plan. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:19pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 5:17pm:
What about them?? Even if they 'do' exist (which is still unknown) it only proves that Israel obviously isn't the 'lunatic. war-mongering nutters' you think. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by The Grappler on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:35pm |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:35pm innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 6:51pm:
Your claims in this post - avoid going head to head with the old parties. - killing babies - pro sharia law - welfare routing - jew hating - supporting ISIS - stealing - promoting anal - promoting paedophillia - aboriginals in poverty - importing illegal weapons - assisting russian mafia Like to back up your claims with facts ... or are you desperate to throw your own shite because you have nothing of substance? |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by The Grappler on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:39pm The above is brought to you by Nothing Sexist - a Grappler Industries Inc initiative for the 22nd Century... |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:39pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:19pm:
The nukes do exist and to pretend not reveals the arrogance to believe they can be outside the same rules. Israeli officials admitted that Gaza is “a huge concentration camp” and that “the occupation will continue” after disengagement https://ceinquiry.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/gaza-concentration-camp/ The Israeli right are nutters. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by innocentbystander. on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:45pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
I forgot to add that the greens will always deny their own policy when confronted, not sure why they do this but it does give hope that maybe its because they are actually embarrassed by it. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:07pm
Surprise, Surprise, innocentbystander runs for the hills.
Well, not that much of a surprise. More predictable than anything. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by innocentbystander. on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:17pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:07pm:
Aren't you running for the hills by not defending green policy?, piss weak, you spend equal amounts of time promoting idiotic policy and denying idiotic policy, I've never known such confusion. :D |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:22pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
Then why doesn't Syria, or Lebanon, or Iran, or Jordan glow in the dark?? If the Israelis really were the nutters you seem to think, then any or all of those countries would have been nuked by now. As for Gaza, Israel has enough ordinance and technology to turn it into a parking area in an afternoon, without a single infantry soldier stepping over the border. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:33pm
Said Israeli Right are nutters, not Israelis in general.
Sure plenty of them cringe at playing the part of the Nazis this time around, rather than the victim. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Grendel on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:50pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 5:11pm:
What? Are you admitting you are ignorant about your Senator and her beliefs given her history on the subject? :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:11pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:33pm:
So, that means the Israel isn't a rogue nation, since most of the population and government aren't 'nutters'.. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:23pm Grendel wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:50pm:
The accusation was "always" and we all know that was overreach. and that you claimed that Lee is anti semitic ... and that is the name calling used of anyone who questions Israel over it's war crimes. Because anti semitic name calling is the pretending Israel is a victim and not the aggressor. We all know Israel is the bully, the modern day storm troopers. Lets hope in a couple of days, the extreme right will lose government and the moderates gain control. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:29pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:11pm:
As we see from the current situation here in Australia, a loony hard right government embarrasses the majority of Australians. Mean while Australia acts like a rogue nation on issues ... like AGW. As for Israel, since Israelis look likely to kick bibi out of office in a couple of days ... and so rectify their mistake ... lets wait and see the result. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by The Grappler on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:39pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 8:33pm:
Actually there are very strong factions in the Knesset who are opposed to the policy towards Palestine... always have been. It's a bit hard to remember that your aim was to reduce tension when you are combating rockets and threats on a daily basis... and every idiot Arab with no real interest in Palestine and its people carries on as if you are the mortal enemy and they want to drink the blood of your children and grand-children e'en unto the seventh generation.... The funny this is that the same Arabs who carry on so much would most likely massacre the Palestinians if given the chance to run the show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan Look at IS right now and its massacres of 'infidel' Muslims who don't toe their line or whatever. Here is a quote:- "...a country whose only vegetation is a few stunted shrubs, and in which wherever a small pocket of workable land occurs in a valley there is to be found a community of wild, lawless men who pasture just enough sheep and goats and till just enough soil to maintain a feud with two or three neighbours." - The Desert Anzacs, p.199, Barry Stone, Hardie Grant Books Melbourne . London |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by The Grappler on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:41pm |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Culture Warrior on Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:55am innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 6:51pm:
Haha. True. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Grendel on Mar 16th, 2015 at 8:09am ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:23pm:
Talk about hypocrisy and ignorance. You people in the greens are the biggest name-callers on the planet. Just read any of Ludlum's moronic rants. Anti-Semitic is the correct term to use for Rhiannon. She's a Conspiranut on the subject. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 16th, 2015 at 2:27pm ____ wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:29pm:
So any belief YOU (or the Greens) don't 'agree' with makes a nation 'rogue'???? |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Bam on Mar 16th, 2015 at 2:46pm
O Hidden page, reveal your secrets ... and ... flip.
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Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16th, 2015 at 3:23pm Grendel wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 8:09am:
Nothing to back up your name calling means it's nothing more than name calling. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16th, 2015 at 3:25pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 2:27pm:
'makes' verse what was written : 'acts like' |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Grendel on Mar 16th, 2015 at 4:41pm ____ wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 3:23pm:
I told you where to look since you appear ignorant on the subject... you haven't looked have you? ::) |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 16th, 2015 at 4:46pm ____ wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 3:25pm:
Doesn't change what I said...Australia's opinion on 'Alleged' Global Warming is based on what YOU and the loony left wing Greens 'consider' to be " true"....which is NOT even close to what is actually 'true'.. AND, since most of the population of the world have actually 'woken up' to the BS the Greens (and assorted other alarmists) are crapping on about....that would mean that YOU, and people like YOU are in fact the "rogue" population... |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16th, 2015 at 4:52pm Grendel wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 4:41pm:
Looked, and your claim came up empty. |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Greens_Win on Mar 16th, 2015 at 4:54pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
FEDERAL Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has declared climate change is real after being attacked for telling a community forum that the science wasn't settled. Mr Abbott said "whether carbon dioxide is quite the environmental villain that some people make it out to be is not yet proven". He infamously declared in 2009 the science was "crap" but has since stated he accepts humans are contributing to global warming. Yesterday, the Liberal leader stated that "climate change is real". "Humanity is making a contribution," Mr Abbott told Adelaide radio. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/archive/news/climate-change-is-real-says-tony-abbott/story-e6frf7l6-1226022104925 |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by Grendel on Mar 16th, 2015 at 5:03pm ____ wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 4:52pm:
Really? ;D ;D ;D Supply the link ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: NSW Greens Launch Campaign Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 16th, 2015 at 5:27pm ____ wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 4:54pm:
Yes, and??? No one (including Climate Sceptics., or 'deniers' as you nitwits seem to prefer to call us) has EVER denied that climate change (whether natural, or partially human caused) is 'real'... It's really only the 'idiot' environazis that think that humans are the 'major' cause of it...80% of the world population do NOT think so.. |
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