Is it true that young Australians are over there in Afghanistan risking their lives defending these rock apes from the Taliban?

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Is society to blame for this one too Gandalf?

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Is it true that young Australians are over there in Afghanistan risking their lives defending these rock apes from the Taliban?

Ask this fella:


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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

[quote author=Herbert link=1426813497/0#0 date=1426813497]Is it true that young Australians are over there in Afghanistan risking their lives defending these rock apes from the Taliban?

Ask this fella:


Gregg, doesn't it infuriate you that Australian wives have been widowed, and Australian children have been semi-orphaned because young Australians had been sent to protect these mindless animals?

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 1:05pm: [quote author=Herbert link=1426813497/0#0 date=1426813497]Is it true that young Australians are over there in Afghanistan risking their lives defending these rock apes from the Taliban? Ask this fella: Gregg, doesn't it infuriate you that Australian wives have been widowed, and Australian children have been semi-orphaned because young Australians had been sent to protect these mindless animals?

Absolutely.

freediver wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 12:32pm:

Is society to blame for this one too Gandalf?

Afghan society? Absolutely.

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Is it true that young Australians are over there in Afghanistan risking their lives defending...

Defending?

The Australian military has helped put war criminals and rapists in charge of Kabul.



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Matiullah Khan, ally to Australia in Afghanistan, reportedly killed in Taliban suicide bombing One of Australia's most significant allies in Afghanistan has reportedly been killed in a suicide bombing. The police chief of Uruzgan Province, Matiullah Khan, was a provincial strongman who allied himself with Australia, the United States and former Afghan president Hamid Karzai. It is being reported that the Taliban has claimed responsibility for the bombing that apparently killed Mr Matiullah in the Afghan capital, Kabul. "He left his hotel last night and was with friends when a suicide bomber attacked and killed him," Dost Mohammad Nayab, a spokesman for the governor of Uruzgan, told Reuters. Mr Matiullah was a polarising figure. He had a reputation for brutality, but was also an implacable foe of the Taliban. Australian soldiers praised him publicly, and genuinely admired him, while privately admitting he might have been guilty of gruesome acts. When Australian and other coalition troops left Uruzgan province at the end of more than a decade of war against the Taliban, it was hoped that Mr Matiullah would provide stability and keep the Taliban at bay. If he has been killed by the Taliban, it is a significant scalp for the insurgent group. When the Dutch military led the Coalition effort in Uruzgan province, its members were forbidden to work with Mr Matiullah and his men, due to concerns over alleged human rights abuses. However, when Australia took the lead role in the province, it proved less squeamish, working with Mr Matiullah, and even bringing some of his militiamen to Australia for training. When this cooperation was revealed, then chief of the Australian Defence Force, Angus Houston, said he was "comfortable" with Australia training Mr Matiullah's militiamen. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-19/matiullah-khan-ally-australia-reportedly-killed-suicide-bombing/6333982

John Howard invaded Afghanistan in 2001.  The rapists that Howard put in charge of Afghanistan then legalised rape:


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Hamid Karzai provokes international outrage over 'legal rape' law www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/5097291/Hamid-Karzai-provokes-international-outrage-over-legal-rape-law.html

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 12:32pm: Is society to blame for this one too Gandalf? Afghan society? Absolutely.

And as every schoolboy knows, Afghan society has nuffin' to do wiv Islam. 


Their society, norms, values, interactions have developed over the centuries with absolutely NO reference to, let alone influence by Islam.
1200 years of Islam in Afghanistan has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.  No Islam to see here, move on.

Islam › Australian troops defending barbarians



It is not reasonable to give freedoms to persons who know who believe that [what are] criminal principles should direct their purpose in life, and expect a good outcome.

People who live by [what are] criminal principles, should not be allowed to live alongside [amongst] people who live for and respect personal freedoms.

e.g.
Like the freedom to publicly [and safely] declare that you do not believe, what your neighbour does believe.



THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260




THE KORAN....

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29



ISLAMIC LAW....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06





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"16.  The state of war is a state of enmity and destruction; and therefore declaring by word or action, not a passionate and hasty, but sedate, settled design upon another man's life puts him in a state of war with him against whom he has declared such an intention, and so has exposed his life to the other's power to be taken away by him, or any one that joins with him in his defence, and espouses his quarrel; it being reasonable and just I should have a right to destroy that which threatens me with destruction; for by the fundamental law of Nature, man being to be preserved as much as possible, when all cannot be preserved, the safety of the innocent is to be preferred, and one may destroy a man who makes war upon him, or has discovered an enmity to his being, for the same reason that he may kill a wolf or a lion, because they are not under the ties of the common law of reason, have no other rule but that of force and violence, and so may be treated as a beast of prey, those dangerous and noxious creatures that will be sure to destroy him whenever he falls into their power.  17.  And hence it is that he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him; it being to be understood as a declaration of a design upon his life. For I have reason to conclude that he who would get me into his power without my consent would use me as he pleased when he had got me there, and destroy me too when he had a fancy to it; for nobody can desire to have me in his absolute power unless it be to compel me by force to that which is against the right of my freedom- i.e.  make me a slave..." Of the State of War

John Locke (1632-1704)