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THE radical Islamic State group has claimed responsibility for the attack on a famed Tunis museum that left 23 people dead and scores of tourists wounded, and up-ended the country’s struggling tourism industry.    Defying the extremists, hundreds of Tunisians rallied yesterday at the National Bardo Museum, the site of the attack, stepping around trails of blood and broken glass to proclaim their solidarity with the victims and with Tunisia’s fledgling democracy. One person carried a sign saying “Tunisia is bloodied but still standing.” Tunisian security forces arrested nine people, five with alleged direct connections to Wednesday’s attack by two gunmen who were later slain by police, the president’s office said. The other four suspects arrested in the central part of the country were part of a cell supporting those involved in the attack, the statement said. BACKGROUND: Hopes shattered in Tunisian massacre EXCLUSIVE: Recruiters targeting younger jihadis SCHOOLBOYS: Aussie jihad teens ‘are top scholars’ Prime Minister Habib Essid told France’s RTL radio that Tunisia was working with other countries to learn more about the slain attackers, identified as Yassine Laabidi and Hatem Khachnaoui. He said Laabidi had been flagged to the intelligence agency, although not for “anything special.” The attack was the worst at a tourist site in Tunisia in more than a decade and prompted a leading Italian cruise ship line to announce it was cancelling all stops in the North African nation indefinitely. The deaths of so many tourists will create massive trouble for Tunisia’s tourism industry, which attracts thousands of foreigners every year to the country’s Mediterranean beaches, desert oases and ancient Roman ruins — and which had just started to recover after years of decline. Two major cruise ships whose passengers were among the victims quickly left the port of Tunis early Thursday, leaving behind grieving family members and slain passengers. Razor wire ringed the museum entrance Thursday and security forces guarded major thoroughfares in Tunis, the capital. Culture Minister Latifa Lakhdar gave a defiant press conference in the museum, where blood trails still stained the ground. “They are targeting knowledge. They are targeting science. They are targeting reason. They are targeting history. They are targeting memory, because all these things mean nothing in their eyes,” she told reporters. “There is only their reactionary, very backward and sclerotic ideology.” Later in the afternoon, authorities opened the gates of the museum for a rally in defiance of the bloodshed. About 500 people held a moment of silence amid the shattered glass before singing Tunisia’s national anthem. Participants included black-robed judges and lawyers, families with children and teenagers swathed in the red-and-white Tunisian flag. Many also carried bouquets of flowers for the victims. Tunisians also attended the funeral of security force member Aymen Morjen, one of the victims. The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attack in an audio and written statement on jihadi forums and described the museum housing Roman artefacts as a “den of infidels and vice.” It celebrated the two attackers as “knights” armed with assault rifles and grenades and promised further strikes. Tunisia has faced scattered attacks by extremists for the past several years, though nothing on this scale. None of the country’s main militant groups had previously pledged allegiance to Islamic State. Geoff Porter, a North Africa security analyst, said it was likely the IS group had perhaps inspired the operation but not actually planned it. “I think it’s probably taking credit for something it may not have played a role in,” he told the AP. According to survivors and witnesses, two or more gunmen attacked the museum wielding assault rifles and began gunning down tourists in front of a row of about 10 buses. The attackers then charged inside to take hostages before being killed in a firefight with security forces. Tourist Bruna Scherini described a scene of panic when shots rang out as museum-goers were admiring the Bardo’s renowned Roman-era mosaics. “Suddenly we started to hear the gunshots so we all tried to escape and all of us tried to save ourselves as best we could,” she told Sky TG24 from her hospital bed. “We tried to hide behind the exhibits and in the corners where there was a little hiding place.” ..........

tbc

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The Australian victim was identified as Sydney resident Jav­ier Camelo, 28, a University of Sydney graduate who had recently completed an MBA course. Mr Camelo, who worked for American Express, was on a dream Mediterranean holiday with his Colombian parents and a brother when he was killed, along with his mother, Mir­iam Martinez Camelo. A Spanish man and a pregnant Spanish woman who survived hid in the museum all night in fear. Spain’s foreign minister said police searched overnight before the pair, Juan Carlos Sanchez and Cristina Rubio, were found Thursday morning by security forces. The Health Ministry said the death toll in the attack rose Thursday to 23 people, including 20 foreign tourists, with almost 50 people wounded. Three Tunisians were killed, including two attackers. All the injuries came from bullet wounds. Dr. Samar Samoud of the health ministry said six of the dead foreigners remained unidentified. She listed the rest of the foreign victims as three Japanese women, three French citizens, a retired Spanish couple, an Australian man, a Colombian woman, a British woman, a Polish man, a Belgian woman and an Italian citizen. The Costa Crociere cruise line said there were four Italians and a Russian among the dead. It was not immediately clear whether those were among the dead not yet identified by the health ministry. The slain Spanish couple was celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary. It was the first time they had travelled outside Spain, the Spanish foreign minister said. Their two children were flying to Tunis to retrieve their parents’ bodies. One victim, identified in Japanese media as 66-year-old Machiyo Narusawa, was among a group of 70 Japanese tourists, mostly retirees who had travelled from Tokyo. A Polish military plane arrived in Tunis on Thursday morning to bring back Polish tourists who wanted to return home. Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski said some people from Poland were still missing and Polish prosecutors said they will open their own investigation into the attack. The Costa Crociere cruise line announced it was cancelling all upcoming stops in Tunisian ports following the attack and will find alternate ports of call, which are still being defined. Tunisian legislator Bochra Belhaj Hmida, of the secular majority party Nida Tunis, told the AP that about 2,000 suspected terrorists are believed to be in Tunisia, many of whom joined extremists in Iraq or Syria then returned home. “They are in a situation of being lone wolves,” she said, “where each of them is free to do the actions they want.” Tunisians overthrew their dictator in 2011 and kicked off the Arab Spring revolutions that spread across the region. While the uprising built a new democracy, the North African country has also struggled with economic problems and extremism, though violence had not previously targeted tourist sites. “This new act of barbarity sounds an alarm,” French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said. “It announces that the world has changed.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/islamic-state-group-claims-tunisia-bardo-museum-attack-that-killed-23/story-e6frg6so-1227270454050

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................Culture Minister Latifa Lakhdar gave a defiant press conference in the museum, where blood trails still stained the ground. “They are targeting knowledge. They are targeting science. They are targeting reason. They are targeting history. They are targeting memory, because all these things mean nothing in their eyes,” she told reporters. “There is only their reactionary, very backward and sclerotic ideology.”............. ..............The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attack in an audio and written statement on jihadi forums and described the museum housing Roman artefacts as a “den of infidels and vice.” It celebrated the two attackers as “knights” armed with assault rifles and grenades and promised further strikes........ ...............“This new act of barbarity sounds an alarm,” French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said. “It announces that the world has changed.”...........

islam has never changed.
it is a death cult that should be deported from our shores.

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 1:20pm:

Quote: ................Culture Minister Latifa Lakhdar gave a defiant press conference in the museum, where blood trails still stained the ground. “They are targeting knowledge. They are targeting science. They are targeting reason. They are targeting history. They are targeting memory, because all these things mean nothing in their eyes,” she told reporters. “There is only their reactionary, very backward and sclerotic ideology.”............. ..............The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attack in an audio and written statement on jihadi forums and described the museum housing Roman artefacts as a “den of infidels and vice.” It celebrated the two attackers as “knights” armed with assault rifles and grenades and promised further strikes........ ...............“This new act of barbarity sounds an alarm,” French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said. “It announces that the world has changed.”........... islam has never changed. it is a death cult that should be deported from our shores.

islamics killing islamics, that's islam

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

Now now, statistics show that nine out of ten Muslims murder more.

That’s the only fact we need to establish here, thank you very much.

muslim women, muslim teenagers, muslim men, all are willing to commit unspeakable atrocities against their fellow man, why?

Because of the filth and perversion preached as infallible, perfect, unchangeable tenets of the death cult (islam).

islam and it's evil god, prophet, qur'an and hadi'th, the societal malignancy of the 21st century

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy.

Soren wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy.

hhhhhhmmmmmmmm
same as all the other terrorists - islam ??

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy. hhhhhhmmmmmmmm same as all the other terrorists - islam ??

Islamophobe!!! How dare you?!?
I-slam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin' and you are an Islamophobe if you say otherwise.


The Islamic motivatrions of Muslim terrorists must NOT be identified as such under any circumstances because that removes the VICTIMHOOD status from Muslims and we cant have that.

Holding Muslims responsible for what is done in the name of Islam is the sign of the worst Islamophobia and we can't have that.



Muslims being responsible for Islam is a colonial, oppressive ruse to snare Muslims into a guilty position, don't you know.  :o


The very idea of free and self-directed agency is anathema to Islam where Allah, like an Oriental potentate, intervenes in the world as randomly as he pleases. Insh'allah means just that - 'whatever'.

Insh'allah = whatever. Lazy, resigned, slothful, arse-covering, slavish.

Soren wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:25pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:49pm: Soren wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy. hhhhhhmmmmmmmm same as all the other terrorists - islam ?? Islamophobe!!! How dare you?!? I-slam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin' and you are an Islamophobe if you say otherwise. The Islamic motivatrions of Muslim terrorists must NOT be identified as such under any circumstances because that removes the VICTIMHOOD status from Muslims and we cant have that. Holding Muslims responsible for what is done in the name of Islam is the sign of the worst Islamophobia and we can't have that. Muslims being responsible for Islam is a colonial, oppressive ruse to snare Muslims into a guilty position, don't you know.  :o The very idea of free and self-directed agency is anathema to Islam where Allah, like an Oriental potentate, intervenes in the world as randomly as he pleases. Insh'allah means just that - 'whatever'. Insh'allah = whatever. Lazy, resigned, slothful, arse-covering, slavish.

Sounds like a description of an infidel to me!

Whatever.



"Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229682951/0#0

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

They couldn't have been moslems, gandalf.

Every pure moslem knows that ISLAM is king,       and that democracy is verboten for the ummah!!!



What in Allah's name, are you thinking of, gandalf !!!!

Democracy ?

For moslems, of moslems ???

You are insane unhinged!!!!!             [.....but i knew that.]

You'll never get into Allah's Paradise, if you continue on this path!!!!!





And he's a secular, 'Aussie' moslem, gandalf.        ------------ >                    :D

Honest!        ------------ >                    :D



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"[a respected moslem community spokesman has] called on Australian Muslims to spurn secular democracy and Western notions of moderate Islam... ...[moslems in Australia were told] that democracy is "haram" (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law. "We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone," Mr Hanif [said]"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/australia-members-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-say-country-is-god-forsaken-and-that-muslims-must-shun-secular-a.html

Soren wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy.

Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists?

Your logic fails.

Sorry, what religion are we talking about here?

I’m confused.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Soren wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy. Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists? Your logic fails.

Who created democracy??

Ben Ali’s rule was never secular: rather than trying to separate religion and state, he instead sought to monopolise control of all things religious, from dictating Friday sermons in the mosques to articulating what Islam should mean to Tunisians. Yet even then, there were signs of an emerging jihadi threat. A 2002 attack on a synagogue on the island of Djerba killed 19 people, mostly tourists, and was claimed by al-Qaeda. Then in 2006-7, hundreds of young men were jailed after a failed armed assault in Suleiman.

After the fall of Ben Ali in 2011, many Salafi leaders came out of jail or returned from exile abroad. In the new security vacuum their groups flourished, appealing to young, frustrated and unemployed Tunisians who saw there would be no quick solution to the deep socio-economic crisis that triggered the revolution in the first place. The chaos in Libya next door only served their cause.

The Islamist movement Ennahdha, which won the first elections in October 2011 and led a coalition government, thought at first it could coax the more extreme Salafi elements onto a path of moderation but later had to admit its naïvety. The government blamed the two political assassinations of 2013 on the group Ansar al-Sharia and banned it but it is still not clear who was really behind the attacks.

Eventually, Ennahdha was forced out of power in January 2014, in large part because of its security failings. And since then, the situation has scarcely improved.

Groups including al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb continue to operate in Tunisia. Until now, Islamic State was not thought to have made headway in the country but it is as yet unclear whether the group played any role in inspiring or orchestrating the Bardo attack.

Karnal wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:52am:

Sorry, what religion are we talking about here? I’m confused.

islam is the death cult

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 11:44am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 9:52am: Sorry, what religion are we talking about here? I’m confused. islam is the death cult

Thanks, Sprint. A tad morbid, don’t you think?

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint?

HA HA ;D ;D ;D

A muslim democracy now that is funny. I think you will find they are attacking them because they don't believe in their brand of idiocy.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 9:07am:

Soren wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy. Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists? Your logic fails.

Meanwhile in cuddly, democratic Malaysia:

Apostasy under Kelantan’s hudud carries the death penalty
FMT Reporters |      March 18, 2015
Enactment opens up possibility of arbitrary exercise of power and violates basic principles of law, says expert.
apostasy islamThe hudud bill to be tabled by Parti Islam Se-Malaysia (PAS) before the Kelantan State Assembly prescribes the death penalty for the offence of apostasy, the Malay Mail Online reports today.
The Syariah Criminal Code II 1993 classifies “intidah” and “riddah” as voluntary or deliberate pronouncements or utterances of words that violate a Muslim’s creed, known has aqidah.
These involve challenges to fundamental aspects of the Islamic faith of every Muslim, including Rukun Islam (Pillars of Islam), Rukun Iman (Pillars of Faith) and the distinction between halal and haram.
According to the report, the enactment does not define what would constitute a violation of Rukun Islam or Rukun Iman.
Under the proposed legislation, the immediate punishment for such an offence is imprisonment over a period to be determined by the Syariah Court “for the purpose of repentance.”
However, chillingly it goes on to say that if the offender fails to repent, the punishment may extend to execution.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/03/18/apostasy-under-kelantans-hudud-carries-the-death-penalty/



Sharia, innit.

Soren wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 9:07am: Soren wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy. Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists? Your logic fails. Meanwhile in cuddly, democratic Malaysia: Apostasy under Kelantan’s hudud carries the death penalty FMT Reporters |      March 18, 2015 Enactment opens up possibility of arbitrary exercise of power and violates basic principles of law, says expert. apostasy islamThe hudud bill to be tabled by Parti Islam Se-Malaysia (PAS) before the Kelantan State Assembly prescribes the death penalty for the offence of apostasy, the Malay Mail Online reports today. The Syariah Criminal Code II 1993 classifies “intidah” and “riddah” as voluntary or deliberate pronouncements or utterances of words that violate a Muslim’s creed, known has aqidah. These involve challenges to fundamental aspects of the Islamic faith of every Muslim, including Rukun Islam (Pillars of Islam), Rukun Iman (Pillars of Faith) and the distinction between halal and haram. According to the report, the enactment does not define what would constitute a violation of Rukun Islam or Rukun Iman. Under the proposed legislation, the immediate punishment for such an offence is imprisonment over a period to be determined by the Syariah Court “for the purpose of repentance.” However, chillingly it goes on to say that if the offender fails to repent, the punishment may extend to execution. http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/03/18/apostasy-under-kelantans-hudud-carries-the-death-penalty/ Sharia, innit.

Innit. Which part of cuddly Malaysia has enacted this proposed law, old boy?

I’m curious.

Soren wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 9:07am: Soren wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy. Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists? Your logic fails. Meanwhile in cuddly, democratic Malaysia: Apostasy under Kelantan’s hudud carries the death penalty FMT Reporters |      March 18, 2015 Enactment opens up possibility of arbitrary exercise of power and violates basic principles of law, says expert. apostasy islamThe hudud bill to be tabled by Parti Islam Se-Malaysia (PAS) before the Kelantan State Assembly prescribes the death penalty for the offence of apostasy, the Malay Mail Online reports today. The Syariah Criminal Code II 1993 classifies “intidah” and “riddah” as voluntary or deliberate pronouncements or utterances of words that violate a Muslim’s creed, known has aqidah. These involve challenges to fundamental aspects of the Islamic faith of every Muslim, including Rukun Islam (Pillars of Islam), Rukun Iman (Pillars of Faith) and the distinction between halal and haram. According to the report, the enactment does not define what would constitute a violation of Rukun Islam or Rukun Iman. Under the proposed legislation, the immediate punishment for such an offence is imprisonment over a period to be determined by the Syariah Court “for the purpose of repentance.” However, chillingly it goes on to say that if the offender fails to repent, the punishment may extend to execution. http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/03/18/apostasy-under-kelantans-hudud-carries-the-death-penalty/ Sharia, innit.

It sounds like a thriving muslim democrazy to me .

Still in cuddly Malaysia:


KUALA LUMPUR - Kelantan may hire Muslim doctors to perform amputations under its Shariah Criminal Code (II) Enactment after a group signalled their willingness to “resign temporarily” from their posts to carry out the job.
...
The Kelantan state assembly approved the Shariah Criminal Code (II) (1993) 2015 Enactment on March 19 with 31 votes from PAS lawmakers supported by 12 from Umno.

PAS now plans to put forward two private members’ bills in Parliament to enable Kelantan to enforce hudud ― one will seek approval for the state to legislate punishment for crimes under the Penal Code.

The other seeks to amend the Shariah Courts (Criminal) Jurisdiction Act 1965 to enable Islamic courts to mete out punishments like the death penalty for apostasy and amputation of limbs for theft.


http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=486952:who-will-chop-off-hands?-amputations-to-be-done-by-muslim-doctors-hudud-official&Itemid=2#axzz3WAogx1mC

Move on, no Islam to see here.

Soren wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21st, 2015 at 9:07am: Soren wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 6:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20th, 2015 at 2:46pm: What about the muslims that just created a democracy - that these terrorists are attacking sprint? Guess the religion of the people who are murderously resisting and sabotaging Tunisian democracy. Guess the religion of the people who just created the democracy and who have so successfully resisted the terrorists? Your logic fails. Meanwhile in cuddly, democratic Malaysia: Apostasy under Kelantan’s hudud carries the death penalty FMT Reporters |      March 18, 2015 Enactment opens up possibility of arbitrary exercise of power and violates basic principles of law, says expert. apostasy islamThe hudud bill to be tabled by Parti Islam Se-Malaysia (PAS) before the Kelantan State Assembly prescribes the death penalty for the offence of apostasy, the Malay Mail Online reports today. The Syariah Criminal Code II 1993 classifies “intidah” and “riddah” as voluntary or deliberate pronouncements or utterances of words that violate a Muslim’s creed, known has aqidah. These involve challenges to fundamental aspects of the Islamic faith of every Muslim, including Rukun Islam (Pillars of Islam), Rukun Iman (Pillars of Faith) and the distinction between halal and haram. According to the report, the enactment does not define what would constitute a violation of Rukun Islam or Rukun Iman. Under the proposed legislation, the immediate punishment for such an offence is imprisonment over a period to be determined by the Syariah Court “for the purpose of repentance.” However, chillingly it goes on to say that if the offender fails to repent, the punishment may extend to execution. http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2015/03/18/apostasy-under-kelantans-hudud-carries-the-death-penalty/ Sharia, innit.

and if they repent, well, they are guilty

Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

Still in cuddly Malaysia: KUALA LUMPUR - Kelantan may hire Muslim doctors to perform amputations under its Shariah Criminal Code (II) Enactment after a group signalled their willingness to “resign temporarily” from their posts to carry out the job. ... The Kelantan state assembly approved the Shariah Criminal Code (II) (1993) 2015 Enactment on March 19 with 31 votes from PAS lawmakers supported by 12 from Umno. PAS now plans to put forward two private members’ bills in Parliament to enable Kelantan to enforce hudud ― one will seek approval for the state to legislate punishment for crimes under the Penal Code. The other seeks to amend the Shariah Courts (Criminal) Jurisdiction Act 1965 to enable Islamic courts to mete out punishments like the death penalty for apostasy and amputation of limbs for theft. http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=486952:who-will-chop-off-hands?-amputations-to-be-done-by-muslim-doctors-hudud-official&Itemid=2#axzz3WAogx1mC Move on, no Islam to see here.

Ah, those good old cuddly Malaysia proposals that never become laws because of that inconvenient thing called a constitution.

What do we say, old chap? Oh, that's right...


Soren wrote on Apr 4^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

Please note what I said: On what basis can we say that Islam is compatible with Western traditions of freedom and individual rights?