Given recent history, it's a story that deserves retelling


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Meet the Muslims who sacrificed themselves to save Jews and fight Nazis in World War II Noor Inayat Khan led a very unusual life. She was born in 1914 to an Indian Sufi mystic of noble lineage and an American half-sister of Perry Baker, often credited with introducing yoga into America. As a child, she and her parents escaped the chaos of revolutionary Moscow in a carriage belonging to Tolstoy’s son. Raised in Paris in a mansion filled with her father’s students and devotees, Khan became a virtuoso of the harp and the veena, dressed in Western clothes, graduated from the Sorbonne and published a book of children’s tales — all before she was 25. One year later, in May 1940, the Germans occupied Paris. Khan, her mother, and a younger brother and sister fled like millions of others, catching the last boat from Bordeaux to England, where she immediately joined the British war effort. In 1942, she was recruited by Churchill’s elite Special Operations Executive (SOE) to work in Paris as a wireless operator. Her clandestine efforts supported the French Underground as England prepared for the D-Day invasions. Among SOE agents, the wireless operator had the most dangerous job of all, because the occupation authorities were skilled at tracking their signals. The average survival time for a Resistance telegrapher in Paris was about six weeks. Khan’s service continued from June 1943 until her capture and arrest by the Gestapo in October. Her amazing life and eventual murder in Germany’s Dachau prison camp in September 1944 are the focus of a PBS film I co-produced that is airing this week. In researching her story, I came across quite a number of other Muslims who bravely served the Allied cause — and sometimes made the ultimate sacrifice. History is rich with examples of their daring heroism and split-second decisions that helped defeat the Nazis. Behic Erkin, the Turkish ambassador in Paris, provided citizenship papers and passports to thousands of Jews (many with only distant claims to Turkish connections) and arranged their evacuation by rail across Europe. One fateful day, Necdet Kent, the Turkish consul-general in Marseille, stymied the shipment of 80 Turkish Jews to Germany by forcing his way onto a train bearing them to their likely death and arranging for their return, unharmed, to France. Abdol-Hossein Sardari used his position at the Iranian consulate in Paris to help thousands of Jews evade Nazi capture. Later dubbed the Iranian Schindler, he convinced the occupying Germans that Iranians were Aryans and that the Jews of Iran had been Iranian since the days of Cyrus the Great — and, therefore, should not be persecuted. Then he issued hundreds of Iranian passports to non-Iranian Jews and saved their lives. Ahmed Somia, the Tunisian co-director of the French Muslim Hospital outside Paris, organized weapon caches, facilitated Resistance radio transmissions, treated wounded Resistance fighters, and helped save many downed U.S. and British pilots by hiding them in fake T.B. wards where Gestapo and French gendarmes feared to go. Khan was posthumously decorated with the highest British and French civilian and military honors, but so were other Muslims, including standout heroes among the 2.5 million British Indian troops fighting Axis forces around the globe. In this largest volunteer army in recorded history, Muslims (roughly one-third of the force), like Hindus and Buddhists, played prominent roles. In a letter to President Roosevelt during the war, Churchill pointed out that Muslim soldiers were providing “the main army elements on which we [the British] must rely for the immediate fighting.” In 1944-45, the French Army of Africa, joined to de Gaulle’s Free French Forces, was expanded to 260,000 men, of whom 50 percent were North African, the great majority being Muslim, while another substantial group were Senegalese Muslim riflemen. These forces invaded Italy and helped liberate southern France. According to American historian Juan Cole, fighting these dark-skinned Africans in “Aryan” Europe, and losing to them, dismayed many German soldiers steeped in trumped-up theories of racial inferiority. Eastern Europe offered more examples. In the Balkans, for instance, only 200 Jews lived in Albania before WWII. Yet by war’s end, almost 2,000 Jews lived in the country, because so many had fled Greece, Austria and other locations in Europe to take shelter there among the predominantly Muslim population, which hid and protected them. As Cole wrote elsewhere, commemorating the 70th anniversary of D-Day: “While a few Muslims did support the Axis, out of resentment of Western colonialism and hopes that the rise of an alternative power center would aid their quest for independence, they were tiny in their numbers compared to the Muslims who not just supported the Allies… but actively fought on their behalf.” One of the jobs of documentary film is to rescue stories that fall out of the history books. Khan’s account, and others like it, seems at odds with the history of the modern Middle East, whose combatants — whether Arab, Turkish, Iranian or Israeli — may want for their own reasons to bury stories about Muslim-Jewish collaboration. But these tales should be remembered and honored. It is my sincere hope that with the story of Noor Inayat Khan, we have done just that.

Pity they didn't save Christians during the: Turkish muslim holocaust of the Armenian Christians.

Sorry, did they form a line or a ring? Was it one or two lines? Were they tinted or tanned?

You'd better get your story straight, Raven. Sometimes a question is just a question, you know.

moses wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

Pity they didn't save Christians during the: Turkish muslim holocaust of the Armenian Christians.

What a shame that occurred under the WWI Turkish Government Moses, not the WWII Axis ones...   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

|dev|null wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:23pm:

moses wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 4:18pm: Pity they didn't save Christians during the: Turkish muslim holocaust of the Armenian Christians. What a shame that occurred under the WWI Turkish Government Moses, not the WWII Axis ones...   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Moses meant Muslims in general - throughout all of history.

Give one example of a nice Muslim, and Moses can give you a dozen meanies.

I blame Islam.

moses wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

Pity they didn't save Christians during the: Turkish muslim holocaust of the Armenian Christians.

Muslims saved many Armenians too:


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A Turkish mullah, bearded, who was very friendly to the Armenians - no matter that the Turkish government did not want anyone to help us and declared that no Turks should protect an Armenian - this man nevertheless, with several others who shared his views, considered it an obligation to lead us as far as Tarsus so that nothing would happen to us on the way. Religious sentiment may also have affected the situation at Zonguldak, where, according to Hagop Adayamanian (b. 1896), the kaimakam, a pious man, was on good terms with the Armenian priest and saved 600 people by persuading his superiors to spare them. In this category, too, are individuals such as the Arab family that rescued Siranoush Husinian (b. 1905) of Urfa and took her for medical treatment to Mardin, exclaiming repeatedly, ‘Whoever did this to you, God will punish them.’

http://www.teachgenocide.org/files/DocsMaps/Shades%20of%20Altruism%20in%20the%20Armenian%20Genocide.pdf

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:40pm:

moses wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 4:18pm: Pity they didn't save Christians during the: Turkish muslim holocaust of the Armenian Christians. Muslims saved many Armenians too: Quote: A Turkish mullah, bearded, who was very friendly to the Armenians - no matter that the Turkish government did not want anyone to help us and declared that no Turks should protect an Armenian - this man nevertheless, with several others who shared his views, considered it an obligation to lead us as far as Tarsus so that nothing would happen to us on the way. Religious sentiment may also have affected the situation at Zonguldak, where, according to Hagop Adayamanian (b. 1896), the kaimakam, a pious man, was on good terms with the Armenian priest and saved 600 people by persuading his superiors to spare them. In this category, too, are individuals such as the Arab family that rescued Siranoush Husinian (b. 1905) of Urfa and took her for medical treatment to Mardin, exclaiming repeatedly, ‘Whoever did this to you, God will punish them.’ http://www.teachgenocide.org/files/DocsMaps/Shades%20of%20Altruism%20in%20the%20Armenian%20Genocide.pdf

Yes, but what about Moh torturing that Jew for his gold?

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Moses meant Muslims in general - throughout all of history.

Their history is what makes them today.

An aggregation of degenerate societies and sects, who are raping, torturing and murdering their fellow man, while baying in a blood crazed frenzy their favourite religious mantra "allahu akbar"   


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Give one example of a nice Muslim, and Moses can give you a dozen meanies.

The meanies are following the qur'an to the letter.


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I blame Islam

Many a true word is spoken in jest.

moses wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Karnal wrote: Quote: Moses meant Muslims in general - throughout all of history. Their history is what makes them today. An aggregation of degenerate societies and sects, who are raping, torturing and murdering their fellow man, while baying in a blood crazed frenzy their favourite religious mantra "allahu akbar"    [quote]Give one example of a nice Muslim, and Moses can give you a dozen meanies.

The meanies are following the qur'an to the letter.


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I blame Islam

Many a true word is spoken in jest. [/quote]

But why can't we say the same for the Jews, Moses? The meanies are following the Torah to the letter, and the nice ones are practicing taqiyya.

Did you know a woman is worth half a man in Islam?

Typical.   

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Muslims saved many Armenians too:

from your source Gandalf

but it should not disguise the fact that for every case of intervention during the Armenian Genocide there were thousands of cases of participation in or approval of the measures applied. In fact, the proportion of public involvement was very high. The hundreds of thousands of Armenians in the deportation caravans were fair game to all who would attack them to strip them of their last few possessions, to abduct pretty girls and children, or to vent their killing rage upon the victims, often as previously arranged by the ruling Young Turk dictatorship and its Special Organization (Teshkilat-iMahsusa),whose responsibility was to oversee the deportations - that is, the process of annihilation.

The Special Organization used as agents of death and destruction hardened criminals who were released from prison for the purpose, predatory tribes that were incited to wait in ambush for the deportee caravans as they passed through narrow gorges and defiles or approached river crossings, and Muslim refugees  (muhajirs)  from the Balkans, who were encouraged to wreak vengeance on the Armenian Christians and occupy the towns and villages that they were forced to abandon.

muslim hatred and depravity won the day Gandalf then and now.

Time for muslims to have the stomach to look inward at their turpitude

So, we're going back in time to point out everybody'd misdeeds then are we?

Wonder who's going to come out of this usnscathed.

mothra wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 5:32pm:

So, we're going back in time to point out everybody'd misdeeds then are we? Wonder who's going to come out of this usnscathed.

Oh, I think we can say the Icelanders should!   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

mothra wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 5:32pm:

So, we're going back in time to point out everybody'd misdeeds then are we? Wonder who's going to come out of this usnscathed.

Definitely not the Huns. According to Moses, the Holocaust is Martin Luther's fault. Gut mit ins, innit.

Still, forgive and forget, eh? We've moved on from the Torah-practicing Jews and the Luther-obeying Huns. We're now onto the Attaturk-following Turks - sorry, Muslims.

I blame Islam. Who doesn't?

|dev|null wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 5:34pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:32pm: So, we're going back in time to point out everybody'd misdeeds then are we? Wonder who's going to come out of this usnscathed. Oh, I think we can say the Icelanders should!   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

No way! They were founded by a pack of rampant vikings!

Karnal wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 5:46pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:32pm: So, we're going back in time to point out everybody'd misdeeds then are we? Wonder who's going to come out of this usnscathed. Definitely not the Huns. According to Moses, the Holocaust is Martin Luther's fault. Gut mit ins, innit. Still, forgive and forget, eh? We've moved on from the Torah-practicing Jews and the Luther-obeying Huns. We're now onto the Attaturk-following Turks - sorry, Muslims. I blame Islam. Who doesn't?

Me. I still blame the Scandos.

moses wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

from your source Gandalf

Of course - the genocide was systematic and widely supported, I never said it wasn't.

And yet you said:


moses wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

Pity they didn't save Christians during the: Turkish muslim holocaust of the Armenian Christians.

I merely proved this statement false.

mothra wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:32pm: So, we're going back in time to point out everybody'd misdeeds then are we? Wonder who's going to come out of this usnscathed. Definitely not the Huns. According to Moses, the Holocaust is Martin Luther's fault. Gut mit ins, innit. Still, forgive and forget, eh? We've moved on from the Torah-practicing Jews and the Luther-obeying Huns. We're now onto the Attaturk-following Turks - sorry, Muslims. I blame Islam. Who doesn't? Me. I still blame the Scandos.

You can't say that. That's offensive.

These people do have rights, you know.

Karnal wrote on Apr 14^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:47pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:32pm: So, we're going back in time to point out everybody'd misdeeds then are we? Wonder who's going to come out of this usnscathed. Definitely not the Huns. According to Moses, the Holocaust is Martin Luther's fault. Gut mit ins, innit. Still, forgive and forget, eh? We've moved on from the Torah-practicing Jews and the Luther-obeying Huns. We're now onto the Attaturk-following Turks - sorry, Muslims. I blame Islam. Who doesn't? Me. I still blame the Scandos. You can't say that. That's offensive. These people do have rights, you know.

18c of the Racial Discrimination Act protects even Scandos like Soren.  Betcha he's glad it's still in place doing that!   He does have the right to be offended!  ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

A traditional example of muslims saving the jews.

800-900 men had their heads chopped off, the women and children were saved by selling them into slavery so Muhammad could get money for weapons and horses.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza

|dev|null wrote on Apr 15^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 6:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:47pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:46pm: mothra wrote on Apr 14th, 2015 at 5:32pm: So, we're going back in time to point out everybody'd misdeeds then are we? Wonder who's going to come out of this usnscathed. Definitely not the Huns. According to Moses, the Holocaust is Martin Luther's fault. Gut mit ins, innit. Still, forgive and forget, eh? We've moved on from the Torah-practicing Jews and the Luther-obeying Huns. We're now onto the Attaturk-following Turks - sorry, Muslims. I blame Islam. Who doesn't? Me. I still blame the Scandos. You can't say that. That's offensive. These people do have rights, you know. 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act protects even Scandos like Soren.  Betcha he's glad it's still in place doing that!   He does have the right to be offended!  ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

He most certainly does. However, the tinted races, Muselmen, bearded numpties, dirty little inverts, PBs, pederasts, etc, are a different matter entirely.

They do not have the right to not be offended. Either that, or they do not not have the right to be offended, or they have the right not to not be offended.

It's complicated. I think it has to do with one's stupidity and mendacity. I'm sure the old boy could clear the matter up for us.