If & when a new Labor govt comes to power, the president of the ACTU will no doubt have a big say in its policies.
Don't they always?

This is what the SMH reported about Ged Kearney a couple of days ago:

"Australia's refugee policy is a national shame, the country's top union official has told a rally in Sydney.

About 2000 people attended the "welcome refugees" rally in inner Sydney on Sunday, demanding the closure of offshore detention centres on Manus Island and Nauru.

"Just think about those three small words – stop the boats – never before can I think of three small words that have left such a permanent and dreadful scar on our national psyche," Australian Council of Trade Unions president Ged Kearney said.

"They've caused so much pain, so much misery, so much indignity, so much injustice," Ms Kearney said.

"They have filled . . . this country with lies, with misinformation, and, I'm sad to say, with shame. Absolute shame."


This leaves me with little doubt that as soon as Labor gets the nod from the G-G, or even before that, the message will go out and the never ending convoy of alien-culture migrants will be under way again.
After all the heavy lifting by Jason Morrison, the vandals will again put us on a par with the weak, left-minded hotchpotch of European countries that do nothing to confront what is a virtual invasion.

Once again our streets will be flooded with out-of-place, out-of-time Somalis, Afghans, Syrians, Iraqis and god knows what else.
And Labor and its groupies will sit back, sip their champagne and lattes, and congratulate themselves on being the great humanitarians come to save the world.

Oh, and PS, could someone tell Mzz Kearney she'd be much more valuable to the community if she went back to emptying bedpans.

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:34am:

streets will be flooded

::) give me a break - for forks sake

Forewarned is forearmed Gandalf.

Even you will one day come to look back with fondness on a time when we were not overrun.

Sorry, I seem to have ommited the most pertinent part of your quote:


bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:34am:

Once again our streets will be flooded

What "streets" were "flooded" with asylum seekers that came in during the Rudd-Gillard tenure?

Clearly we must have a different understanding of the word "flooded".

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:34am:

If & when a new Labor govt comes to power, the president of the ACTU will no doubt have a big say in its policies. Don't they always? This is what the SMH reported about Ged Kearney a couple of days ago: "Australia's refugee policy is a national shame, the country's top union official has told a rally in Sydney. About 2000 people attended the "welcome refugees" rally in inner Sydney on Sunday, demanding the closure of offshore detention centres on Manus Island and Nauru. "Just think about those three small words – stop the boats – never before can I think of three small words that have left such a permanent and dreadful scar on our national psyche," Australian Council of Trade Unions president Ged Kearney said. "They've caused so much pain, so much misery, so much indignity, so much injustice," Ms Kearney said. "They have filled . . . this country with lies, with misinformation, and, I'm sad to say, with shame. Absolute shame." This leaves me with little doubt that as soon as Labor gets the nod from the G-G, or even before that, the message will go out and the never ending convoy of alien-culture migrants will be under way again. After all the heavy lifting by Jason Morrison, the vandals will again put us on a par with the weak, left-minded hotchpotch of European countries that do nothing to confront what is a virtual invasion. Once again our streets will be flooded with out-of-place, out-of-time Somalis, Afghans, Syrians, Iraqis and god knows what else. And Labor and its groupies will sit back, sip their champagne and lattes, and congratulate themselves on being the great humanitarians come to save the world.

What's refugees got to do with a trade union? Haven't you got employers to rip off and union member funds to misuse, Ged?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:45am:

Sorry, I seem to have ommited the most pertinent part of your quote: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Once again our streets will be flooded What "streets" were "flooded" with asylum seekers that came in during the Rudd-Gillard tenure? Clearly we must have a different understan.ding of the word "flooded".

Sorry, I seem to have forgotten that the cultural flowering of Islam took place many hundreds of years ago and has since subsided into a long and bitter dark age. I can see that you would feel out of place with poetic license

What's refugees got to do with a trade union?

Well may you ask AP.
The thing is the traditional focus of trade unions - work conditions & wages -  has become maginalised as their leaders constantly jockey for positions on the political ladder.
That's where the money is for them now, except for the few like Thompson who fall back on the old game of plundering the funds. Union membership, due to disillusionment, has shrunk to miniscule levels.
And to get on those rungs of the stairway to paradise they have to get out there among the great unwashed and rave & rant about all those matters that turns the idiots on.

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:40am:

Forewarned is forearmed Gandalf. Even you will one day come to look back with fondness on a time when we were not overrun.

Just when I thought you were reasonable, you come out with racist crap like that.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:45am:

Sorry, I seem to have ommited the most pertinent part of your quote: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Once again our streets will be flooded What "streets" were "flooded" with asylum seekers that came in during the Rudd-Gillard tenure? Clearly we must have a different understanding of the word "flooded".

Don't forget that stupid LNP member who blamed Sydney traffic on asylum seekers.

Bogarde is being deliberately inflammatory. In a nation of almost 24 million people, a few thousand asylum seekers will make no difference.

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:57am:

I can see that you would feel out of place with poetic license

Right, sorry I should have realised - hysteric fear mongering by way of blatant lying is now considered a "poetic license".

I mean, 'flooding the (Australian) streets' gets the message across far more effectively than the far more drab "flooding the offshore detention centres" doesn't it? You just don't get the same sense of xenophobic hysteria with the latter.

I'm terribly sorry Gandalf. I seem to have offended you.

Fighting fire with fire is the name of the game here sometimes.
We have to put up with constant low-life animals maligning and insulting our Prime Minister and his team, but when an absolutely justifiable attack is made on the would-be Labor vandals it's another matter isn't it.
Yaboo sucks! Get over it and face the facts of what your "philosophical" leaders would do to this country again if given one inch of a chance.

My god, the Europeans would give a fortune to have people with the balls of Morrison & Abbott to take on their invasion problems.
You lot are so stupid you don't know when you've got it good!

A flood, a trickle, who cares, stop them all.

Also a blanket ban on immigration from all black/brown/muslim countries would be a good move, along with the return of all service personnel from the ME.

Bam wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 11:18am:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:40am: Forewarned is forearmed Gandalf. Even you will one day come to look back with fondness on a time when we were not overrun. Just when I thought you were reasonable, you come out with racist crap like that.

What makes you think, apart from conceit, that your idea of reasonableness is preferable to mine?

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 11:35am:

I'm terribly sorry Gandalf. I seem to have offended you. Fighting fire with fire is the name of the game here sometimes. We have to put up with constant low-life animals maligning and insulting our Prime Minister and his team, but when an absolutely justifiable attack is made on the would-be Labor vandals it's another matter isn't it. Yaboo sucks! Get over it and face the facts of what your "philosophical" leaders would do to this country again if given one inch of a chance. My god, the Europeans would give a fortune to have people with the balls of Morrison & Abbott to take on their invasion problems. You lot are so stupid you don't know when you've got it good!

I Just love the way your not even trying to deny the fact that you are using blatant lies to perpetuate the hysteria - and even attempting to justify it.

Trully breathtaking.

And I just love the way you paint something as a lie just because you believe it is. Not that this is in any way a surprise.
I imagine those radicalised by IS are led to see things as truth or as lies just on the basis of warped beliefs.

Abbott, Bishop & General Molan give the Eueropeans some advice:

"Plainly there is a terrible, terrible tragedy unfolding in the Mediterranean right now," Mr Abbott said.

"We have got hundreds, maybe thousands of people drowning in the attempts to get from Africa to Europe."

The Prime Minister said while Australians would grieve the loss, European leaders must resolve to stop the "terrible problem".

"The only way you can stop the deaths is to stop the people smuggling trade. The only way you can stop the deaths is in fact to stop the boats," he said.

"That's why it is so urgent that the countries of Europe adopt very strong policies that will end the people smuggling trade across the Mediterranean."

Retired Major General Jim Molan, who helped develop the Coalition's Operation Sovereign Borders, said the tragedy highlighted Europe's policy incompetence and said countries had a moral obligation to control their borders.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop described the Mediterranean shipwreck as a horrible tragedy of horrendous proportions and said Australia would be happy to discuss its border protection policies with European countries struggling with an influx of asylum seekers.

"We know that about 1,200 people died trying to get to Australia via the people smuggling trade and we were determined to put an end to that, and we have done so," she said.

"We have managed to stop the flow of people via the people smuggling trade but we have to be ever vigilant. So we are happy to share our experiences.

"We're concerned to share the details of the legislation that we put in place, the actions that we've taken, the policies that we have, but each country will obviously have to deal with this on a national basis and often on a regional basis."

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:34am:

Once again our streets will be flooded with out-of-place, out-of-time Somalis, Afghans, Syrians, Iraqis and god knows what else.

There is a 98% certainty those tinted folk that "flood your streets"
(Christ knows where this "flooding of streets" is occurring) are actually Australia's regular refugee intake quota - and of the other 2% of "boat people" ... well, the vast bulk of them remain imprisoned

Don't expect to see a lot of change on your streets after September, 2016

INCIDENTALLY, it was the Rudd Government's "New Guinea Solution" that was responsible for "stopping the boats" - as the figures exposed by the ABC Fact Check will prove, if you care to go and look

Don't expect to see a lot of change on your streets after September, 2016

Not if the likes of Ged Kearney get their way, unless she is speaking publicly with a forked tongue.

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 2:42pm:

And I just love the way you paint something as a lie just because you believe it is.

Saying our streets were "flooded" with asylum seekers at any point in our history is a lie. To say it isn't is just forking retarded.

Australia's regular refugee intake quota - and of the other 2% of "boat people"


Too many....

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:34am:

Labor and its groupies will sit back, sip their champagne and lattes ...

Do you know a LOT of wealthy Labor and Greens' humanitarians ?

... and by the way, what DO capitalists and other Liberal supporters drink ?
I've never been able to find any information on this

Who's Jason Morrison ?

Very_Vinnie wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Labor and its groupies will sit back, sip their champagne and lattes ... Do you know a LOT of wealthy Labor and Greens' humanitarians ? ... and by the way, what DO capitalists and other Liberal supporters drink ? I've never been able to find any information on this

Grange......... when they can get away with it  ;)

Unions and Unionists should stay out of politics and stick to making their Unions relevant to the workers they are supposed to represent.

Very_Vinnie wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 3:02pm:

INCIDENTALLY, it was the Rudd Government's "New Guinea Solution" that was responsible for "stopping the boats" - as the figures exposed by the ABC Fact Check will prove, if you care to go and look

Not true.

There were 4 boat people in detention when Rudd dismantled the pacific solution,Howard closed Manus Island and many other detention centres because they were empty.
The Pacific solution under Howard cost $289 million.

It was labor and the greens who put the people smugglers back in business resulting in a billion plus dollar debacle before they were thrown out of government.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 3:12pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 2:42pm: And I just love the way you paint something as a lie just because you believe it is. Saying our streets were "flooded" with asylum seekers at any point in our history is a lie. To say it isn't is just forking retarded.

Considering around 1% arrive by boat Raven doubts the streets will be "flooded"

Its time wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Very_Vinnie wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 3:17pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Labor and its groupies will sit back, sip their champagne and lattes ... Do you know a LOT of wealthy Labor and Greens' humanitarians ? ... and by the way, what DO capitalists and other Liberal supporters drink ? I've never been able to find any information on this Grange......... when they can get away with it  ;)

Now, THAT'S the quickest, wittiest come-back I've seen - since I joined

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 3:12pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 2:42pm: And I just love the way you paint something as a lie just because you believe it is. Saying our streets were "flooded" with asylum seekers at any point in our history is a lie. To say it isn't is just forking retarded.

Bogie’s heard your message loud and clear, G. He’s corrected his mistaken choice of the word "flooding".

He’s moved onto the more value-neutral term, "invading".

Raven wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 4:37pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 3:12pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 2:42pm: And I just love the way you paint something as a lie just because you believe it is. Saying our streets were "flooded" with asylum seekers at any point in our history is a lie. To say it isn't is just forking retarded. Considering around 1% arrive by boat Raven doubts the streets will be "flooded"

I think Mr Bogarde was being hypothetical
If you took all the asylum seekers that arrived by boat from Rudd's abolition of the "Pacific Solution" -  till Rudd's introduction of the "PNG Solution" - and put them all in the one street - we'd have quite a "flooded" cul-de-sac

Xenophobes seem to think ever Arab or African they see is a "boat person"
The reality is it's about 1 to 2 in 100
Probably most of us have never SEEN a "boat person"

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:34am:

"Australia's refugee policy is a national shame, the country's top union official has told a rally in Sydney. About 2000 people attended the "welcome refugees" rally in inner Sydney on Sunday, demanding the closure of offshore detention centres on Manus Island and Nauru. "Just think about those three small words – stop the boats – never before can I think of three small words that have left such a permanent and dreadful scar on our national psyche," Australian Council of Trade Unions president Ged Kearney said. "They've caused so much pain, so much misery, so much indignity, so much injustice," Ms Kearney said. "They have filled . . . this country with lies, with misinformation, and, I'm sad to say, with shame. Absolute shame."

ACTUALLY, she speaks for MOST Australians



In The Age/Nielsen poll, 22 per cent of ALP voters said asylum seekers should be sent to another country to be assessed, 62 per cent said they should be allowed to land in Australia and processed here and 13 per cent took the hardest option of wanting the boats sent back to sea.

Coalition voters were also unenthusiastic about the offshore solution with only 32 per cent supporting it, 44 per cent saying people should be processed here and 19 per cent wanting them sent back to sea.

Greens voters were overwhelmingly in favour of Australian processing (83 per cent), with just 10 per cent favouring an offshore solution and 6 per cent wanting boats turned around.

Women are more likely than men to support processing in Australia (58 to 51 per cent) as are younger voters, with almost two-thirds of those aged 18-24 in favour compared with less than half of those over 55. Capital city voters were more likely to support local processing than those in regional areas (58 to 48 per cent).


The Age, September 12, 2011
(yeah, it's an old poll - but it's the only one I could find)

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 11:19am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:45am: Sorry, I seem to have ommited the most pertinent part of your quote: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Once again our streets will be flooded What "streets" were "flooded" with asylum seekers that came in during the Rudd-Gillard tenure? Clearly we must have a different understanding of the word "flooded". Don't forget that stupid LNP member who blamed Sydney traffic on asylum seekers. Bogarde is being deliberately inflammatory. In a nation of almost 24 million people, a few thousand asylum seekers will make no difference.

its not a few thousand it is FIFTY thousand, 43,000 of them which are still on welfare five years later.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Very_Vinnie wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 3:02pm: INCIDENTALLY, it was the Rudd Government's "New Guinea Solution" that was responsible for "stopping the boats" - as the figures exposed by the ABC Fact Check will prove, if you care to go and look Not true. There were 4 boat people in detention when Rudd dismantled the pacific solution,Howard closed Manus Island and many other detention centres because they were empty. The Pacific solution under Howard cost $289 million. It was labor and the greens who put the people smugglers back in business resulting in a billion plus dollar debacle before they were thrown out of government.

You have not responded to ONE POINT of my statement - choosing, instead, to go off on tangents

Google "abc fact check stop the boats png solution" and check out the data
(I cannot post URLs or images, at the moment)





Quote:

Fact Check consulted two researchers from the University of Queensland who specialise in data analysis, Dr Angela Higginson and Jason Ferris. They modelled the data and concluded that: "There has been a statistically significant reduction in the number of arrivals since the Coalition took Government... But it sits as part of a trend in reductions of arrivals that began with the last government. So in short, Mr Morrison is right, but he's not taking context into account." "There is no sign that the election of the Abbott Coalition Government has had any impact on arrivals whatsoever" Angela Higginson The researchers say the comparison period of before and after Operation Sovereign Borders used by Mr Morrison misses the point, "because this trend began back in July and there is no sign that the election of the Abbott Coalition Government has had any impact on arrivals whatsoever".

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 7:04pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 11:19am: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:45am: Sorry, I seem to have ommited the most pertinent part of your quote: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Once again our streets will be flooded What "streets" were "flooded" with asylum seekers that came in during the Rudd-Gillard tenure? Clearly we must have a different understanding of the word "flooded". Don't forget that stupid LNP member who blamed Sydney traffic on asylum seekers. Bogarde is being deliberately inflammatory. In a nation of almost 24 million people, a few thousand asylum seekers will make no difference. its not a few thousand it is FIFTY thousand, 43,000 of them which are still on welfare five years later.

Exactly. 50,000 of them over 6 years. Unbelievable.

What’s that as a percentage of the population, Longy? How does it compare to skilled migration figures and the birthrate?

You should have the numbers at your fingertips.

Karnal wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 7:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:04pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 11:19am: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:45am: Sorry, I seem to have ommited the most pertinent part of your quote: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Once again our streets will be flooded What "streets" were "flooded" with asylum seekers that came in during the Rudd-Gillard tenure? Clearly we must have a different understanding of the word "flooded". Don't forget that stupid LNP member who blamed Sydney traffic on asylum seekers. Bogarde is being deliberately inflammatory. In a nation of almost 24 million people, a few thousand asylum seekers will make no difference. its not a few thousand it is FIFTY thousand, 43,000 of them which are still on welfare five years later. Exactly. 50,000 of them over 6 years. Unbelievable. What’s that as a percentage of the population, Longy? How does it compare to skilled migration figures and the birthrate? You should have the numbers at your fingertips.

so should you but any maths above Sesame Street seems to confuse you.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 7:04pm:

its not a few thousand it is FIFTY thousand, 43,000 of them which are still on welfare five years later.

THAT A Current Affair statistic was debunked by Media Watch days after it was aired
ACA included ANY payment made through Centrelink in the previous year - such as the baby bonus, aged and disability pensions, AusStudy, private health insurance rebate - and family tax benefit payments, among others

But I suspect you already KNEW that ?

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:15pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:04pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 11:19am: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:45am: Sorry, I seem to have ommited the most pertinent part of your quote: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Once again our streets will be flooded What "streets" were "flooded" with asylum seekers that came in during the Rudd-Gillard tenure? Clearly we must have a different understanding of the word "flooded". Don't forget that stupid LNP member who blamed Sydney traffic on asylum seekers. Bogarde is being deliberately inflammatory. In a nation of almost 24 million people, a few thousand asylum seekers will make no difference. its not a few thousand it is FIFTY thousand, 43,000 of them which are still on welfare five years later. Exactly. 50,000 of them over 6 years. Unbelievable. What’s that as a percentage of the population, Longy? How does it compare to skilled migration figures and the birthrate? You should have the numbers at your fingertips. so should you but any maths above Sesame Street seems to confuse you.

Good point. I couldn’t possibly work out what 50,000 is as a percentage of 24 million, it’s just too many zeros.

Did they teach you long division, Longy?

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:15pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:04pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 11:19am: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:45am: Sorry, I seem to have ommited the most pertinent part of your quote: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: Once again our streets will be flooded What "streets" were "flooded" with asylum seekers that came in during the Rudd-Gillard tenure? Clearly we must have a different understanding of the word "flooded". Don't forget that stupid LNP member who blamed Sydney traffic on asylum seekers. Bogarde is being deliberately inflammatory. In a nation of almost 24 million people, a few thousand asylum seekers will make no difference. its not a few thousand it is FIFTY thousand, 43,000 of them which are still on welfare five years later. Exactly. 50,000 of them over 6 years. Unbelievable. What’s that as a percentage of the population, Longy? How does it compare to skilled migration figures and the birthrate? You should have the numbers at your fingertips. so should you but any maths above Sesame Street seems to confuse you.

Ah, yes - the old LongWeakInTheTopEnd reply - when all else never got off the ground, rely on personal attack.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXofWKmBf58

Very_Vinnie wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

... and by the way, what DO capitalists and other Liberal supporters drink ? I've never been able to find any information on this

https://iams.pbworks.com/f/1275934479/kool_aid.jpg

If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn?

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 7:59pm:

If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn?

Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the huge social burden it places on us as a society for having to look at these people walking around our streets and suburbs.

Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable.

Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his superior maths.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 7:59pm:

If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn?

The asylum seekers pay the people smugglers.

Unless you were thinking of starting a charity    :-/

Karnal wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:15pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the burden it has on us as a society for having to share our streets with these people. Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable. Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his maths.

There's other costs as well Ms Knowledge. Running camps, border protection costs (Navy) to Nauru (security people etc). Paying them the dole  is just one part of it. I already share the streets with the people so it aint any sweat of my sack.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:19pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? The asylum seekers pay the people smugglers. Unless you were thinking of starting a charity    :-/

I'll start up a charity to buy more of those nifty orange boats they send them back in.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:19pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? The asylum seekers pay the people smugglers. Unless you were thinking of starting a charity    :-/ I'll start up a charity to buy more of those nifty orange boats they send them back in.

What would you call it - 'Tinnies for Muzzies' ?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:27pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:24pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:19pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? The asylum seekers pay the people smugglers. Unless you were thinking of starting a charity    :-/ I'll start up a charity to buy more of those nifty orange boats they send them back in. What would you call it - 'Tinnies for Muzzies' ?

I'd call it "Thinking About Australia's Future". The Sunni Lebanese they brought out here in the mid 70's were refugees too and look at the problems coming out of this community. We have to plan who we bring out here. I don't want Iranians, Afghans, Syrians, military trained Tammils , Palestinians, Somalians, muslims. With the good come bad .

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:15pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the burden it has on us as a society for having to share our streets with these people. Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable. Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his maths. There's other costs as well Ms Knowledge. Running camps, border protection costs (Navy) to Nauru (security people etc). Paying them the dole  is just one part of it. I already share the streets with the people so it aint any sweat of my sack.

That’s right, Homo. You live in Western Sydney, unlike all those no-nothing Greens. You already share your streets with these people, you shouldn’t be forced to.share your testicle sweat with them as well.

Do you think these people will cost as much as the cash we give to the Aborigines?

I sincerely hope they DO 'turn the clock back'.

Only a minority of ideological nut-bars and the truly deluded support this policy or, indeed, any other LNP garbage.

For the country's sake, their demise can't come soon enough.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:27pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:24pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:19pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? The asylum seekers pay the people smugglers. Unless you were thinking of starting a charity    :-/ I'll start up a charity to buy more of those nifty orange boats they send them back in. What would you call it - 'Tinnies for Muzzies' ? I'd call it "Thinking About Australia's Future". The Sunni Lebanese they brought out here in the mid 70's were refugees too and look at the problems coming out of this community.

True, Homo. Those Sunni Lebanese who.came out in the 70s were called Christians.

You’d know all that, of course. You share your streets with these people.

Karnal wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:36pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:15pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the burden it has on us as a society for having to share our streets with these people. Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable. Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his maths. There's other costs as well Ms Knowledge. Running camps, border protection costs (Navy) to Nauru (security people etc). Paying them the dole  is just one part of it. I already share the streets with the people so it aint any sweat of my sack. That’s right, Homo. You live in Western Sydney, unlike all those no-nothing Greens. You already share your streets with these people, you shouldn’t be forced to.share your testicle sweat with them as well. Do you think these people will cost as much as the cash we give to the Aborigines?

Both are expensive. Most of the people coming out in the boats are unemployable. Same with many aborigines.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:36pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:15pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the burden it has on us as a society for having to share our streets with these people. Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable. Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his maths. There's other costs as well Ms Knowledge. Running camps, border protection costs (Navy) to Nauru (security people etc). Paying them the dole  is just one part of it. I already share the streets with the people so it aint any sweat of my sack. That’s right, Homo. You live in Western Sydney, unlike all those no-nothing Greens. You already share your streets with these people, you shouldn’t be forced to.share your testicle sweat with them as well. Do you think these people will cost as much as the cash we give to the Aborigines? Both are expensive. Most of the people coming out in the boats are unemployable. Same with many aborigines.

So, they're not "taking our jobs"?


http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/c3679c02-78ab-11e3-8ea3-22000a9193db-large.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:46pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:40pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:36pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:15pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the burden it has on us as a society for having to share our streets with these people. Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable. Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his maths. There's other costs as well Ms Knowledge. Running camps, border protection costs (Navy) to Nauru (security people etc). Paying them the dole  is just one part of it. I already share the streets with the people so it aint any sweat of my sack. That’s right, Homo. You live in Western Sydney, unlike all those no-nothing Greens. You already share your streets with these people, you shouldn’t be forced to.share your testicle sweat with them as well. Do you think these people will cost as much as the cash we give to the Aborigines? Both are expensive. Most of the people coming out in the boats are unemployable. Same with many aborigines. So, they're not "taking our jobs"? http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/c3679c02-78ab-11e3-8ea3-22000a9193db-large.jpg

Nope. Most don't. They are unskilled and  can't read, write and speak English properly. I want them to work. It would be good if the did skilled jobs but they do unskilled. We've got millions of unemployed that could do that work.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:51pm:

They are unskilled and  can't read, write and speak English properly.

Aint that the truth!


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Cronulla_riots_6.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:56pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:51pm: They are unskilled and  can't read, write and speak English properly. Aint that the truth! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Cronulla_riots_6.jpg

Proof. So wearing a flag around your neck and having a few tats means you are unemployed? Why bring in more unskilled people then. That's a problem for me, people smuggling by passes the point system for skilled migrants.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:46pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:40pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:36pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:15pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the burden it has on us as a society for having to share our streets with these people. Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable. Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his maths. There's other costs as well Ms Knowledge. Running camps, border protection costs (Navy) to Nauru (security people etc). Paying them the dole  is just one part of it. I already share the streets with the people so it aint any sweat of my sack. That’s right, Homo. You live in Western Sydney, unlike all those no-nothing Greens. You already share your streets with these people, you shouldn’t be forced to.share your testicle sweat with them as well. Do you think these people will cost as much as the cash we give to the Aborigines? Both are expensive. Most of the people coming out in the boats are unemployable. Same with many aborigines. So, they're not "taking our jobs"? http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/c3679c02-78ab-11e3-8ea3-22000a9193db-large.jpg

Not anymore. Since Homo took.an extended holiday, they’ve been stealing our unemployment benefits.

When Homo’s girlfriend left him,  they stole our women. When Homo got on the ice, they ripped off decent, hard-working Australians. When Homo ended up.in jail, they filled our jails.

It’s not all about Homo, you know.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Why bring in more unskilled people then.

You just don't understand the whole asylum seeking/refugee thing, do you?

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:46pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:40pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:36pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:15pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the burden it has on us as a society for having to share our streets with these people. Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable. Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his maths. There's other costs as well Ms Knowledge. Running camps, border protection costs (Navy) to Nauru (security people etc). Paying them the dole  is just one part of it. I already share the streets with the people so it aint any sweat of my sack. That’s right, Homo. You live in Western Sydney, unlike all those no-nothing Greens. You already share your streets with these people, you shouldn’t be forced to.share your testicle sweat with them as well. Do you think these people will cost as much as the cash we give to the Aborigines? Both are expensive. Most of the people coming out in the boats are unemployable. Same with many aborigines. So, they're not "taking our jobs"? http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/c3679c02-78ab-11e3-8ea3-22000a9193db-large.jpg They are unskilled and  can't read, write and speak English properly.

Ah.

Karnal wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:39pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:33pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:27pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:24pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:19pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? The asylum seekers pay the people smugglers. Unless you were thinking of starting a charity    :-/ I'll start up a charity to buy more of those nifty orange boats they send them back in. What would you call it - 'Tinnies for Muzzies' ? I'd call it "Thinking About Australia's Future". The Sunni Lebanese they brought out here in the mid 70's were refugees too and look at the problems coming out of this community. True, Homo. Those Sunni Lebanese who.came out in the 70s were called Christians. You’d know all that, of course. You share your streets with these people.

They were both. The Christians aren't a problem.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. You just don't understand the whole asylum seeking/refugee thing, do you?

See I do. It's you who doesn't. You believe sob stories and I don't. They want to live in Australia and there's no other way to get out here but push their way in. It's forced migration .

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:02pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. You just don't understand the whole asylum seeking/refugee thing, do you? See I do. It's you who doesn't. You believe sob stories and I don't. They want to live in Australia and there's no other way to get out here but push their way in. It's forced migration .

When they were forcing their way in, Homo was dropping the soap.

Karnal wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:08pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:02pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. You just don't understand the whole asylum seeking/refugee thing, do you? See I do. It's you who doesn't. You believe sob stories and I don't. They want to live in Australia and there's no other way to get out here but push their way in. It's forced migration . When they were forcing their way in, Homo was dropping the soap.

All the while you were getting honour raped by extended members of your Pakistani family in the back of a clapped out Econovan down by the goat enclosure. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:02pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. You just don't understand the whole asylum seeking/refugee thing, do you? See I do. It's you who doesn't. You believe sob stories and I don't. They want to live in Australia and there's no other way to get out here but push their way in. It's forced migration .

The majority of asylum seekers are granted refugee status.

This is not opinion - it's an indisputable fact.

So, knowing that fact, how can you substantiate your claim?

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:08pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:02pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. You just don't understand the whole asylum seeking/refugee thing, do you? See I do. It's you who doesn't. You believe sob stories and I don't. They want to live in Australia and there's no other way to get out here but push their way in. It's forced migration . When they were forcing their way in, Homo was dropping the soap. All the while you were getting honour raped by extended members of your Pakistani family in the back of a clapped out Econovan down by the goat enclosure. ;D ;D ;D ;D

But when Homo posts four chuckles in a row, we know that he is deeply, deeply unhappy.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:16pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:02pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. You just don't understand the whole asylum seeking/refugee thing, do you? See I do. It's you who doesn't. You believe sob stories and I don't. They want to live in Australia and there's no other way to get out here but push their way in. It's forced migration . The majority of asylum seekers are granted refugee status. This is not opinion - it's an indisputable fact. So, knowing that fact, how can you substantiate your claim?

Many are on bridging visas and could be sent home anytime. Some they don't know who they are and some had their stories believed without any proof. The aimed for the best country and not the closest salvation. That's what doesn't sit well with people. We've talked about this 1,000 times. Let it go.

Karnal wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:20pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:12pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:08pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:06pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 9:02pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. You just don't understand the whole asylum seeking/refugee thing, do you? See I do. It's you who doesn't. You believe sob stories and I don't. They want to live in Australia and there's no other way to get out here but push their way in. It's forced migration . When they were forcing their way in, Homo was dropping the soap. All the while you were getting honour raped by extended members of your Pakistani family in the back of a clapped out Econovan down by the goat enclosure. ;D ;D ;D ;D But when Homo posts four chuckles in a row, we know that he is deeply, deeply unhappy.

You've got to admit that was funny. I believe in humour in a post.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:22pm:

The aimed for the best country and not the closest salvation. That's what doesn't sit well with people.

It's perfectly legal, though.

Wouldn't you do the same?  I certainly would.

How can you condemn someone for (legally) striving for the very best that life can offer?

Good morning all.
Well that was a good day's work, stirring up the prospect of Labor getting its hands on the border controls again . . . or should that be "hands off".

No doubt Mzzz Kearney's rant will not have gone unnoticed in the Abbott camp and will be given air at the appropriate time.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Why bring in more unskilled people then.

Asylum seekers are predominantly highly skilled and middle class.

You lot should know - when you're not bitching about lowly inferior tinted scum "flooding our streets", you're bitching about these rich privileged 'queue jumpers' - using their wealth to jump ahead of genuine refugees.

Or had you forgotten that meme?

Karnal wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:51pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:46pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:40pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:36pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:15pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 7:59pm: If Labor get back in and start people smuggling back up who's going to pay for it? Aren't we in an economic downturn? Good point, Homo. By Longy’s calculation, 43,000 of them are on the dole. As you know, the dole’s about $400 a fortnight. That adds up to $8,600,000 a week, can you believe it? And this excludes the burden it has on us as a society for having to share our streets with these people. Can you imagine what it would be like if Labor gets in and more flood in? It’s unthinkable. Actually, Longy should be able to work this out with his maths. There's other costs as well Ms Knowledge. Running camps, border protection costs (Navy) to Nauru (security people etc). Paying them the dole  is just one part of it. I already share the streets with the people so it aint any sweat of my sack. That’s right, Homo. You live in Western Sydney, unlike all those no-nothing Greens. You already share your streets with these people, you shouldn’t be forced to.share your testicle sweat with them as well. Do you think these people will cost as much as the cash we give to the Aborigines? Both are expensive. Most of the people coming out in the boats are unemployable. Same with many aborigines. So, they're not "taking our jobs"? http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/c3679c02-78ab-11e3-8ea3-22000a9193db-large.jpg They are unskilled and  can't read, write and speak English properly. Ah.

Left out willing to work long hours for little pay !

It makes a big difference.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 11:05am:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. Asylum seekers are predominantly highly skilled and middle class. You lot should know - when you're not bitching about lowly inferior tinted scum "flooding our streets", you're bitching about these rich privileged 'queue jumpers' - using their wealth to jump ahead of genuine refugees. Or had you forgotten that meme?

We’ve moved on from that one, G. We’re onto importing tinted goatherders to put on Centrelink benefits.

This is the new meme, and we’re sticking to it.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 11:15am:

[ Left out willing to work long hours for little pay ! It makes a big difference.

Not this current crop of asylum seekers, these people arent vietnamese villagers , as Gandalf points out they are already priveleged in their own society before their economic propelled journey to australia, exactly the type of migrant we do not need into this country. Some like Greggary believe that its better to allow priveleged wealthy people buy their way into Australia and that the ones in the refugee camps , the genuine refugees can get stuffed. Bugger the poor people is the mantra from the pro asylum crowd.

Just because you are (relatively) rich, doesn't mean you can't be a genuine refugee. People who rattle the feathers of despotic regimes and put their lives in danger in the process tend to be educated people with some degree of privilege. If a particular minority is being persecuted - say the Hazaras in Afghanistan and Pakistan - the first targets will be the privileged classes who have the wealth and influence to potentially thwart attacks against their people.

And there is nothing illegal - or illegitimate - about using your wealth to seek safety from a genuine threat.

A threatened life is a threatened life.

rhino wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 11:37am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:15am: [ Left out willing to work long hours for little pay ! It makes a big difference. Not this current crop of asylum seekers, these people arent vietnamese villagers , as Gandalf points out they are already priveleged in their own society before their economic propelled journey to australia, exactly the type of migrant we do not need into this country. Some like Greggary believe that its better to allow priveleged wealthy people buy their way into Australia and that the ones in the refugee camps , the genuine refugees can get stuffed. Bugger the poor people is the mantra from the pro asylum crowd.

More astounding ignorance.

The amount of money one has is completely irrelevant when it comes to refugee status.  A multi-billionaire can be a refugee.

Why is it that the retarded right all seem to "think" that in order to be a refugee, one must be poor?

Is that written in section 61 of the Migration Act?   ;D

Also, using right-tard logic, these are the exact people we should be welcoming - smart, brave, innovative, resourceful - the sort of people that help make a country great.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Also, using right-tard logic, these are the exact people we should be welcoming - smart, brave, innovative, resourceful - the sort of people that help make a country great.

Exactly!

I guess in the eyes of bigots, being smart, brave, innovative & resourceful accounts for nothing, if you're brown and/or Muslim.

Seriously though, why is it that so many people believe that in order to be a "genuine" refugee, you must be poor.

Where does that misconception come from?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 12:03pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:37am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:15am: [ Left out willing to work long hours for little pay ! It makes a big difference. Not this current crop of asylum seekers, these people arent vietnamese villagers , as Gandalf points out they are already priveleged in their own society before their economic propelled journey to australia, exactly the type of migrant we do not need into this country. Some like Greggary believe that its better to allow priveleged wealthy people buy their way into Australia and that the ones in the refugee camps , the genuine refugees can get stuffed. Bugger the poor people is the mantra from the pro asylum crowd. More astounding ignorance. The amount of money one has is completely irrelevant when it comes to refugee status.  A multi-billionaire can be a refugee. Why is it that the retarded right all seem to "think" that in order to be a refugee, one must be poor? Is that written in section 61 of the Migration Act?   ;D

Well, if they can con the great unthinking masses into believing they're all poor, it makes them
easier to demonise. Witness the false claims that boat-people all remain on welfare, or that they
get more than Aussie welfare recips. Neither claim is true, but the unthinking themselves then
continue to perpetuate the myth.

Same principle they use to con fools into thinking the unemployed are all drunks, or on drugs.

Or that all single mothers are sluts who only have kids for the money.

OR THAT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS.

None of the above claims have any basis at all in reality, but the rightards push them for all
they're worth, as if they're Holy Writ and not just their bigoted and perverted ideology.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 11:05am:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. Asylum seekers are predominantly highly skilled and middle class. You lot should know - when you're not bitching about lowly inferior tinted scum "flooding our streets", you're bitching about these rich privileged 'queue jumpers' - using their wealth to jump ahead of genuine refugees. Or had you forgotten that meme?

You just want Australia filled up with your Muslim brothers and sisters.

Kat wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 12:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 12:03pm: rhino wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:37am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:15am: [ Left out willing to work long hours for little pay ! It makes a big difference. Not this current crop of asylum seekers, these people arent vietnamese villagers , as Gandalf points out they are already priveleged in their own society before their economic propelled journey to australia, exactly the type of migrant we do not need into this country. Some like Greggary believe that its better to allow priveleged wealthy people buy their way into Australia and that the ones in the refugee camps , the genuine refugees can get stuffed. Bugger the poor people is the mantra from the pro asylum crowd. More astounding ignorance. The amount of money one has is completely irrelevant when it comes to refugee status.  A multi-billionaire can be a refugee. Why is it that the retarded right all seem to "think" that in order to be a refugee, one must be poor? Is that written in section 61 of the Migration Act?   ;D Well, if they can con the great unthinking masses into believing they're all poor, it makes them easier to demonise. Witness the false claims that boat-people all remain on welfare, or that they get more than Aussie welfare recips. Neither claim is true, but the unthinking themselves then continue to perpetuate the myth. Same principle they use to con fools into thinking the unemployed are all drunks, or on drugs. Or that all single mothers are sluts who only have kids for the money. OR THAT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS. None of the above claims have any basis at all in reality, but the rightards push them for all they're worth, as if they're Holy Writ and not just their bigoted and perverted ideology.

Sad, but true.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 12:53pm:

Kat wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 12:16pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 12:03pm: rhino wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:37am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:15am: [ Left out willing to work long hours for little pay ! It makes a big difference. Not this current crop of asylum seekers, these people arent vietnamese villagers , as Gandalf points out they are already priveleged in their own society before their economic propelled journey to australia, exactly the type of migrant we do not need into this country. Some like Greggary believe that its better to allow priveleged wealthy people buy their way into Australia and that the ones in the refugee camps , the genuine refugees can get stuffed. Bugger the poor people is the mantra from the pro asylum crowd. More astounding ignorance. The amount of money one has is completely irrelevant when it comes to refugee status.  A multi-billionaire can be a refugee. Why is it that the retarded right all seem to "think" that in order to be a refugee, one must be poor? Is that written in section 61 of the Migration Act?   ;D Well, if they can con the great unthinking masses into believing they're all poor, it makes them easier to demonise. Witness the false claims that boat-people all remain on welfare, or that they get more than Aussie welfare recips. Neither claim is true, but the unthinking themselves then continue to perpetuate the myth. Same principle they use to con fools into thinking the unemployed are all drunks, or on drugs. Or that all single mothers are sluts who only have kids for the money. OR THAT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS. None of the above claims have any basis at all in reality, but the rightards push them for all they're worth, as if they're Holy Writ and not just their bigoted and perverted ideology. Sad, but true.

I know one thing for sure, Iran or Sri Lanka etc wouldn't like boatloads of Christians pushing their way into their countries.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 12:42pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:05am: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. Asylum seekers are predominantly highly skilled and middle class. You lot should know - when you're not bitching about lowly inferior tinted scum "flooding our streets", you're bitching about these rich privileged 'queue jumpers' - using their wealth to jump ahead of genuine refugees. Or had you forgotten that meme? You just want Australia filled up with your Muslim brothers and sisters.

They will be coming through the front door so if you fear all those nasty brown people now imagine what you're going to be like given Team abort has just increased the migrant intake to a figure higher than the 1960s . Next you will want the planes stopped , poor little redneck, I hope they don't move in either side of you, imagine the meltdown  ;D

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 12:57pm:

I know one thing for sure.

Well, that's a start.

Its time wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 12:42pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:05am: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. Asylum seekers are predominantly highly skilled and middle class. You lot should know - when you're not bitching about lowly inferior tinted scum "flooding our streets", you're bitching about these rich privileged 'queue jumpers' - using their wealth to jump ahead of genuine refugees. Or had you forgotten that meme? You just want Australia filled up with your Muslim brothers and sisters. They will be coming through the front door so if you fear all those nasty brown people now imagine what you're going to be like given Team abort has just increased the migrant intake to a figure higher than the 1960s . Next you will want the planes stopped , poor little redneck, I hope they don't move in either side of you, imagine the meltdown  ;D

I bet there won't be a word out of you when Australia experiences future terrorist attacks. You'll empty out your bank account and move up the coast like  all the rest of the you  long distant multicults.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 12:03pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:37am: Dnarever wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:15am: [ Left out willing to work long hours for little pay ! It makes a big difference. Not this current crop of asylum seekers, these people arent vietnamese villagers , as Gandalf points out they are already priveleged in their own society before their economic propelled journey to australia, exactly the type of migrant we do not need into this country. Some like Greggary believe that its better to allow priveleged wealthy people buy their way into Australia and that the ones in the refugee camps , the genuine refugees can get stuffed. Bugger the poor people is the mantra from the pro asylum crowd. More astounding ignorance. The amount of money one has is completely irrelevant when it comes to refugee status.  A multi-billionaire can be a refugee.

As are quite a few refugees fleeing Putin's Russia.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Also, using right-tard logic, these are the exact people we should be welcoming - smart, brave, innovative, resourceful - the sort of people that help make a country great.

Switzerland certainly welcomes Putin's oligarch refugees. Money for jam, innit.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 1:05pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 1:00pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 12:42pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:05am: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. Asylum seekers are predominantly highly skilled and middle class. You lot should know - when you're not bitching about lowly inferior tinted scum "flooding our streets", you're bitching about these rich privileged 'queue jumpers' - using their wealth to jump ahead of genuine refugees. Or had you forgotten that meme? You just want Australia filled up with your Muslim brothers and sisters. They will be coming through the front door so if you fear all those nasty brown people now imagine what you're going to be like given Team abort has just increased the migrant intake to a figure higher than the 1960s . Next you will want the planes stopped , poor little redneck, I hope they don't move in either side of you, imagine the meltdown  ;D I bet there won't be a word out of you when Australia experiences future terrorist attacks. You'll empty out your bank account and move up the coast like  all the rest of the you  long distant multicults.

They won't come to Western Sydney, Homo. When's the next terrorist attack planned? We've already got Herbie working on the assassinations. Sprint's planning the mosque razings.

Is Longy onto the successful terrorist attack on Australian soil to teach the idiots a lesson?

Karnal wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 1:31pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 1:05pm: Its time wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 1:00pm: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 12:42pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 11:05am: Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 8:59pm: Why bring in more unskilled people then. Asylum seekers are predominantly highly skilled and middle class. You lot should know - when you're not bitching about lowly inferior tinted scum "flooding our streets", you're bitching about these rich privileged 'queue jumpers' - using their wealth to jump ahead of genuine refugees. Or had you forgotten that meme? You just want Australia filled up with your Muslim brothers and sisters. They will be coming through the front door so if you fear all those nasty brown people now imagine what you're going to be like given Team abort has just increased the migrant intake to a figure higher than the 1960s . Next you will want the planes stopped , poor little redneck, I hope they don't move in either side of you, imagine the meltdown  ;D I bet there won't be a word out of you when Australia experiences future terrorist attacks. You'll empty out your bank account and move up the coast like  all the rest of the you  long distant multicults. They won't come to Western Sydney, Homo. ?

Bit of inside Carnal Knowledge perhaps?

They could do worse, Homo. I live in Western Sydney too, remember.

Karnal wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 1:38pm:

They could do worse, Homo. I live in Western Sydney too, remember.

Don't you live in Lakemba?

No, Homo, that's the inner South-West. You wouldn't want to live there. It's below your station.

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They WILL turn the clock back

Good idea ... let's return to the refugee policies of the Fraser government, a time when an Australian government gave aid and comfort to refugees.

Karnal wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 2:00pm:

No, Homo, that's the inner South-West. You wouldn't want to live there. It's below your station.

Yeah, it is. It's a hole.

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Good idea ... let's return to the refugee policies of the Fraser government, a time when an Australian government gave aid and comfort to refugees.

You mean after Labor under Whitlam wouldn't allow the Vietnamese in?

Fraser let all the bandit Lebs in...  well done Mal, Fraser started Multiculti...  what a wonker.  Screwed us well and truly with that social policy crap.

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 2:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 22nd, 2015 at 2:00pm: No, Homo, that's the inner South-West. You wouldn't want to live there. It's below your station. Yeah, it is. It's a hole.

Exactly. You'd rather associate with a much better class of person.

those people are scum.

I don't know who let what Lebanese in, but . . .I would like to see a Knighthood for whoever let the Christian Lebanese in (the goodies) and a one-way ticket to Yemen for whoever let the Muslim Lebanese in (the baddies).
But I'm not biased you understand.

Now, where's that troll at the bottom of the garden?

For those who've come across the seas
We've boundless plains to share

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:34am:

After all the heavy lifting by Jason Morrison

Don't you mean Jim Morrison ?

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They WILL turn the clock back

To turn the clock further back than the Libs you would need to aim at the 1920's.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:37am:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 21st, 2015 at 10:34am: streets will be flooded ::) give me a break - for forks sake

Watch it, the knives wil be coming out now  :P

Bam wrote on Apr 25^th, 2015 at 1:34pm:

For those who've come across the seas We've boundless plains to share

They've added another verse.

But share, we won't

We hate to gloat

But white is best

Chuck out the rest

They came to our shores

and asked for grace

We gave no pause

with brutal haste

we quickly turned them all away

and joyously celebrated Australia Day

Bam wrote on Apr 25^th, 2015 at 1:34pm:

For those who've come across the seas We've boundless plains to share

Well that's bulldust and no thinking person would utter it let alone believe it. :D :D :D