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Message started by HooYAY its FriYAY on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:29am

Title: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by HooYAY its FriYAY on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:29am
The Herald Sun has an opinion poll printed today showing preferred Liberal leader as

Turnbull 38%

Bishop 27%

Abbott 12%

Can it get any worse for this total dud of a PM?

It has Plibersek 23 and Shorten 21.

::)

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by The Grappler on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:33am
That only goes to show the dismal quality of every so-called political leader in this country - as my post yesterday - not one of them would get a start in a Presidential race of vote of the people.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:36am
Keep the prick there till next election, i want to see his face when the libs are obliterated  :)

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by gandalf on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:44am
You seem to be referring to the morgan poll:
http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6206-preferred-leaders-liberal-labor-april-2015-201504260519

Reachtel also just published their poll from last week - spelling more bad news for the coalition, as the numbers seem to have settled on - lets call it "bad" - after recovering from "catastrophic" since a couple of months ago.

A couple of interesting results from this poll - labor seem to be on a winner on expanding tax on super, while support for removing negative gearing split almost evenly.

https://www.reachtel.com.au/blog/7-news-national-poll-23april2015

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Bam on Apr 28th, 2015 at 11:53am

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:36am:
Keep the prick there till next election, i want to see his face when the libs are obliterated  :)

[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Swagman on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm
Not good numbers for Abbott. 

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by gandalf on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:22pm
astute observation there swag.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Swagman on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:22pm:
astute observation there swag.


Well it's not as if he has been the darling of the ochlocracy like Rudd was?  His numbers have always been bad.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 28th, 2015 at 1:00pm

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:36am:
Keep the prick there till next election, i want to see his face when the libs are obliterated  :)



I'm torn.

While I agree he should stay, I'm sick of seeing his face.

                                    :-/

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Apr 28th, 2015 at 1:44pm

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:29am:
The Herald Sun has an opinion poll printed today showing preferred Liberal leader as

Turnbull 38%

Bishop 27%

Abbott 12%

Can it get any worse for this total dud of a PM?

It has Plibersek 23 and Shorten 21.

::)

Turnbull: lol, he would be more electable if he was responsible for slaves-have-no-choices!  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Apr 28th, 2015 at 2:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:36am:
Keep the prick there till next election, i want to see his face when the libs are obliterated  :)



I'm torn.

While I agree he should stay, I'm sick of seeing his face.

                                    :-/
Hang in there Greg. I know its hard but we need him to stay and fight the next election as the leadership face of the Coalition

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by gandalf on Apr 28th, 2015 at 2:53pm

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:22pm:
astute observation there swag.


Well it's not as if he has been the darling of the ochlocracy like Rudd was?  His numbers have always been bad.


He was an accidental leader from the start - he only became leader of his party because Fran Bailey just happened to be in hospital on the day of the vote. But he proved to be a superb attack dog against the dysfunctional Rudd-Gillard circus. The libs then got so caught up in their oppose-by-slogans politics, that they forgot what was needed to actually govern. So of course Tony was found wanting from day one of his election win - the first PM in modern history to not have a 'honey moon' period, and its only gotten worse since.

But its been an important lesson for both sides - the lesson that you can't simply throw the kitchen sink to remove a government, but have nothing left to offer when you form government. Opposition's will now be more circumspect and understand the importance of not booby trapping your own future government.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Bam on Apr 28th, 2015 at 3:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:36am:
Keep the prick there till next election, i want to see his face when the libs are obliterated  :)



I'm torn.

While I agree he should stay, I'm sick of seeing his face.

                                    :-/

Not to worry. Here's some music for election night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_py6WbMV1k

Am I ever gonna see your face again?
(No way! Get f**ked! F**k off!)

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Bam on Apr 28th, 2015 at 3:07pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:22pm:
astute observation there swag.


Well it's not as if he has been the darling of the ochlocracy like Rudd was?  His numbers have always been bad.


He was an accidental leader from the start - he only became leader of his party because Fran Bailey just happened to be in hospital on the day of the vote. But he proved to be a superb attack dog against the dysfunctional Rudd-Gillard circus. The libs then got so caught up in their oppose-by-slogans politics, that they forgot what was needed to actually govern. So of course Tony was found wanting from day one of his election win - the first PM in modern history to not have a 'honey moon' period, and its only gotten worse since.

But its been an important lesson for both sides - the lesson that you can't simply throw the kitchen sink to remove a government, but have nothing left to offer when you form government. Opposition's will now be more circumspect and understand the importance of not booby trapping your own future government.

Which is why we've already seen more policy announcements from Labor - actual policies, not just slogans - than we saw from the Coalition before the election campaign.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by teddybear on Apr 28th, 2015 at 3:19pm

Bam wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 3:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:22pm:
astute observation there swag.


Well it's not as if he has been the darling of the ochlocracy like Rudd was?  His numbers have always been bad.


He was an accidental leader from the start - he only became leader of his party because Fran Bailey just happened to be in hospital on the day of the vote. But he proved to be a superb attack dog against the dysfunctional Rudd-Gillard circus. The libs then got so caught up in their oppose-by-slogans politics, that they forgot what was needed to actually govern. So of course Tony was found wanting from day one of his election win - the first PM in modern history to not have a 'honey moon' period, and its only gotten worse since.

But its been an important lesson for both sides - the lesson that you can't simply throw the kitchen sink to remove a government, but have nothing left to offer when you form government. Opposition's will now be more circumspect and understand the importance of not booby trapping your own future government.

Which is why we've already seen more policy announcements from Labor - actual policies, not just slogans - than we saw from the Coalition before the election campaign.


How about running threw them    baby bam bam  ;)

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Karnal on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not good numbers for Abbott. 


Absolute nonsense. This is just another rogue poll. Mr Abbott should be much higher than that. Let's wait for Newspoll to come out. Longy says it's more mathematical.

Anyway, why should we worry what the idiots think? If Australians don't know what's good for them, that's their problem. Mr Abbott will not be drawn into a running commentary on the polls, he's there to govern the nation.

Being a leader is not a popularity contest, you know. The only poll that counts is the one on erection day.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Karnal on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:36am:
Keep the prick there till next election, i want to see his face when the libs are obliterated  :)



I'm torn.

While I agree he should stay, I'm sick of seeing his face.

                                    :-/


Yes, but Mr Abbott has a plan to put sport and terrorism on the front pages again.

Hopefully, Longy's wish will come true and we'll get a real terrorist attack to shut the idiots up and let Mr Abbott take charge.

This can only be in all our interests, shurely.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not good numbers for Abbott. 


Absolute nonsense. This is just another rogue poll. Mr Abbott should be much higher than that. Let's wait for Newspoll to come out. Longy says it's more mathematical.

Anyway, why should we worry what the idiots think? If Australians don't know what's good for them, that's their problem. Mr Abbott will not be drawn into a running commentary on the polls, he's there to govern the nation.

Being a leader is not a popularity contest, you know. The only poll that counts is the one on erection day.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.


Yes tough decisions have to made reducing the debt and deficit disaster,  and thank goodness the adults are in charge reducing the debt ............ oh wait , they've doubled it  ::)

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:00pm
** all heil the copper elephant  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Karnal on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:14pm

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not good numbers for Abbott. 


Absolute nonsense. This is just another rogue poll. Mr Abbott should be much higher than that. Let's wait for Newspoll to come out. Longy says it's more mathematical.

Anyway, why should we worry what the idiots think? If Australians don't know what's good for them, that's their problem. Mr Abbott will not be drawn into a running commentary on the polls, he's there to govern the nation.

Being a leader is not a popularity contest, you know. The only poll that counts is the one on erection day.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.


Yes tough decisions have to made reducing the debt and deficit disaster,  and thank goodness the adults are in charge reducing the debt ............ oh wait , they've doubled it  ::)


Well yes, but that was before. We've moved on from all that. Mr Abbott has shown how our debt to GDP ratio is far better than Greece.

I wonder why the media always focuses on the economy, anyway. Can't people just be satisfied having an honest, decent man in the Lodge? It's not all about money, you know.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:49pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not good numbers for Abbott. 


Absolute nonsense. This is just another rogue poll. Mr Abbott should be much higher than that. Let's wait for Newspoll to come out. Longy says it's more mathematical.

Anyway, why should we worry what the idiots think? If Australians don't know what's good for them, that's their problem. Mr Abbott will not be drawn into a running commentary on the polls, he's there to govern the nation.

Being a leader is not a popularity contest, you know. The only poll that counts is the one on erection day.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.


Yes tough decisions have to made reducing the debt and deficit disaster,  and thank goodness the adults are in charge reducing the debt ............ oh wait , they've doubled it  ::)


Well yes, but that was before. We've moved on from all that. Mr Abbott has shown how our debt to GDP ratio is far better than Greece.

I wonder why the media always focuses on the economy, anyway. Can't people just be satisfied having an honest, decent man in the Lodge? It's not all about money, you know.


Ahhh i see , so it was just a gaffe when he said 50 to 60 % debt to GDP would be a pretty good result .

Lets hope it was just a gaffe .........

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Apr 28th, 2015 at 7:49pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not good numbers for Abbott. 


Absolute nonsense. This is just another rogue poll. Mr Abbott should be much higher than that. Let's wait for Newspoll to come out. Longy says it's more mathematical.

Anyway, why should we worry what the idiots think? If Australians don't know what's good for them, that's their problem. Mr Abbott will not be drawn into a running commentary on the polls, he's there to govern the nation.

Being a leader is not a popularity contest, you know. The only poll that counts is the one on erection day.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.


Yes tough decisions have to made reducing the debt and deficit disaster,  and thank goodness the adults are in charge reducing the debt ............ oh wait , they've doubled it  ::)


Well yes, but that was before. We've moved on from all that. Mr Abbott has shown how our debt to GDP ratio is far better than Greece.

I wonder why the media always focuses on the economy, anyway. Can't people just be satisfied having an honest, decent man in the Lodge? It's not all about money, you know.

:o :o I thought all debt was bad debt: I'm sure we've got it in writing around this internet thing somewhere!!

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Karnal on Apr 28th, 2015 at 7:57pm

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not good numbers for Abbott. 


Absolute nonsense. This is just another rogue poll. Mr Abbott should be much higher than that. Let's wait for Newspoll to come out. Longy says it's more mathematical.

Anyway, why should we worry what the idiots think? If Australians don't know what's good for them, that's their problem. Mr Abbott will not be drawn into a running commentary on the polls, he's there to govern the nation.

Being a leader is not a popularity contest, you know. The only poll that counts is the one on erection day.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.


Yes tough decisions have to made reducing the debt and deficit disaster,  and thank goodness the adults are in charge reducing the debt ............ oh wait , they've doubled it  ::)


Well yes, but that was before. We've moved on from all that. Mr Abbott has shown how our debt to GDP ratio is far better than Greece.

I wonder why the media always focuses on the economy, anyway. Can't people just be satisfied having an honest, decent man in the Lodge? It's not all about money, you know.


Ahhh i see , so it was just a gaffe when he said 50 to 60 % debt to GDP would be a pretty good result .


Absolutely not. Mr Abbott was just saying what our projected debt will be in 2050 under the Coalition’s leadership.

Stable, reliable, predictable, steady as she goes, that’s Mr.Abbott for you.

What a tall glass of water.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Karnal on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:03pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 7:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not good numbers for Abbott. 


Absolute nonsense. This is just another rogue poll. Mr Abbott should be much higher than that. Let's wait for Newspoll to come out. Longy says it's more mathematical.

Anyway, why should we worry what the idiots think? If Australians don't know what's good for them, that's their problem. Mr Abbott will not be drawn into a running commentary on the polls, he's there to govern the nation.

Being a leader is not a popularity contest, you know. The only poll that counts is the one on erection day.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.


Yes tough decisions have to made reducing the debt and deficit disaster,  and thank goodness the adults are in charge reducing the debt ............ oh wait , they've doubled it  ::)


Well yes, but that was before. We've moved on from all that. Mr Abbott has shown how our debt to GDP ratio is far better than Greece.

I wonder why the media always focuses on the economy, anyway. Can't people just be satisfied having an honest, decent man in the Lodge? It's not all about money, you know.

:o :o I thought all debt was bad debt: I'm sure we've got it in writing around this internet thing somewhere!!


How idiotically simplistic. How could all debt be the same? Utterly ridiculous.

There are, in fact, two kinds of debt: Labor debt, and Liberal debt.

The two are chalk and cheese.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:09pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:03pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 7:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Swagman wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Not good numbers for Abbott. 


Absolute nonsense. This is just another rogue poll. Mr Abbott should be much higher than that. Let's wait for Newspoll to come out. Longy says it's more mathematical.

Anyway, why should we worry what the idiots think? If Australians don't know what's good for them, that's their problem. Mr Abbott will not be drawn into a running commentary on the polls, he's there to govern the nation.

Being a leader is not a popularity contest, you know. The only poll that counts is the one on erection day.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.


Yes tough decisions have to made reducing the debt and deficit disaster,  and thank goodness the adults are in charge reducing the debt ............ oh wait , they've doubled it  ::)


Well yes, but that was before. We've moved on from all that. Mr Abbott has shown how our debt to GDP ratio is far better than Greece.

I wonder why the media always focuses on the economy, anyway. Can't people just be satisfied having an honest, decent man in the Lodge? It's not all about money, you know.

:o :o I thought all debt was bad debt: I'm sure we've got it in writing around this internet thing somewhere!!


How idiotically simplistic. How could all debt be the same? Utterly ridiculous.

There are, in fact, two kinds of debt: Labor debt, and Liberal debt.

The two are chalk and cheese.


Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Armchair_Politician on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:42pm
He's made some blunders, but I'd still prefer him over Rudd.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by John Smith on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:46pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:42pm:
He's made some blunders, but I'd still prefer him over Rudd.


that's because you're an absolute fool. Abbott could jail your wife and detain your kids and you'd still prefer him to Rudd. :D :D

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Bam on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:58pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:03pm:
There are, in fact, two kinds of debt: Labor debt, and Liberal debt.

The two are chalk and cheese.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABtlI2Wk3Ws

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Armchair_Politician on Apr 28th, 2015 at 9:35pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:42pm:
He's made some blunders, but I'd still prefer him over Rudd.


that's because you're an absolute fool. Abbott could jail your wife and detain your kids and you'd still prefer him to Rudd. :D :D


Yeah, I'm sure there a reason why he'd jail my wife and detain my kids...  ::)

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by John Smith on Apr 28th, 2015 at 9:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 9:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:46pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:42pm:
He's made some blunders, but I'd still prefer him over Rudd.


that's because you're an absolute fool. Abbott could jail your wife and detain your kids and you'd still prefer him to Rudd. :D :D


Yeah, I'm sure there a reason why he'd jail my wife and detain my kids...  ::)


thanks for proving my point about you being a fool ... I didn't say he had a reason

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Karnal on Apr 28th, 2015 at 9:49pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:42pm:
He's made some blunders, but I'd still prefer him over Rudd.


We all would, Armchair, we all would. As if Rudd could under-promise and over-deliver. As if Rudd could restore our budget to surplus in his first term. Can you imagine Rudd as our Roads and Infrastructure Prime Minister? Our Jobs Prime Minister? Our Minister for Women’s Affairs?

Australians everywhere agree with you, Armchair. How utterly, utterly appalling that KRudd is.

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Apr 29th, 2015 at 12:10am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:42pm:
He's made some blunders, but I'd still prefer him over Rudd.

you voted for copper internet: it's not like he lied about it and you can plead innocence  8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Abbot 12% as preferred leader
Post by Copper-toned-stunt on Apr 29th, 2015 at 12:12am

Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 28th, 2015 at 8:42pm:
He's made some blunders, but I'd still prefer him over Rudd.


We all would, Armchair, we all would. As if Rudd could under-promise and over-deliver. As if Rudd could restore our budget to surplus in his first term. Can you imagine Rudd as our Roads and Infrastructure Prime Minister? Our Jobs Prime Minister? Our Minister for Women’s Affairs?

Australians everywhere agree with you, Armchair. How utterly, utterly appalling that KRudd is.

the copper elephant is what the libs voted for... they will never be forgiven!

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