Islamic cartoonists are taking on IS..  So, Soren, is that taqiyya?   ::)

Get back to us when they poke fun at Mohammed and Islam.

Why would they need to Soren?   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

More to the point, why would they want to?

polite_gandalf wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 6:30pm:

More to the point, why would they want to?

Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness.
What's the word? Ah yes -  to show a degree of self-awareness.

Soren wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:30pm: More to the point, why would they want to? Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness.

Ah. You mean unlike your good self, no?

Allah Uakbar.

Soren wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:30pm: More to the point, why would they want to? Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness. What's the word? Ah yes -  to show a degree of self-awareness.

Perhaps they should ridicule you, Soren?  You know, just to remind you that you shouldn't be taking yourself so seriously?   ::)

Soren, has there ever been a funny muslim in the history of the universe?

double plus good wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 9:43am:

Soren, has there ever been a funny muslim in the history of the universe?

I think you're a scream a minute Matty!   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

Karnal wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 11:14pm:

Soren wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:21pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:30pm: More to the point, why would they want to? Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness. Ah. You mean unlike your good self, no? Allah Uakbar.

Stupid PB.

Nobody is going to be hurt if they draw a cartoon of me or write anything unflattering.

Soren wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:56pm:

Karnal wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 11:14pm: Soren wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:21pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:30pm: More to the point, why would they want to? Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness. Ah. You mean unlike your good self, no? Allah Uakbar. Stupid PB. Nobody is going to be hurt if they draw a cartoon of me or write anything unflattering.

Ah yes. You've fixated upon the bit about "the point of murderousness".

Of course you have.

Karnal wrote on May 23^rd, 2015 at 11:25pm:

Soren wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 1:56pm: Karnal wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 11:14pm: Soren wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:21pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:30pm: More to the point, why would they want to? Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness. Ah. You mean unlike your good self, no? Allah Uakbar. Stupid PB. Nobody is going to be hurt if they draw a cartoon of me or write anything unflattering. Ah yes. You've fixated upon the bit about "the point of murderousness". Of course you have.

Yeah, sorry to notice that they kill people for trifles.

Soren wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 10:44am:

Karnal wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 11:25pm: Soren wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 1:56pm: Karnal wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 11:14pm: Soren wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:21pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:30pm: More to the point, why would they want to? Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness. Ah. You mean unlike your good self, no? Allah Uakbar. Stupid PB. Nobody is going to be hurt if they draw a cartoon of me or write anything unflattering. Ah yes. You've fixated upon the bit about "the point of murderousness". Of course you have. Yeah, sorry to notice that they kill people for trifles.

They may be "triffles" to you, Soren but I'm sure they take them very seriously indeed.  No one takes human life unnecessarily unless they are a sociopath, such as most Islamophobes appear to be...   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Soren wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 10:44am: Karnal wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 11:25pm: Soren wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 1:56pm: Karnal wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 11:14pm: Soren wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:21pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:30pm: More to the point, why would they want to? Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness. Ah. You mean unlike your good self, no? Allah Uakbar. Stupid PB. Nobody is going to be hurt if they draw a cartoon of me or write anything unflattering. Ah yes. You've fixated upon the bit about "the point of murderousness". Of course you have. Yeah, sorry to notice that they kill people for trifles. They may be "triffles" to you, Soren but I'm sure they take them very seriously indeed.  No one takes human life unnecessarily unless they are a sociopath, such as most Islamophobes appear to be...   ::)

Anyone who kills over cartoons and jokes (ie trifles) is a sociopath. Anyone, such as you, who defends such sociopaths is a squishy, spineless apologists.

You are so unmoored that you treat the noticing of Islamic murders over trifles as a worse thing ("Islamophobia", persecution of Muslims)  than the murders themselves because if the Muslims do not think that a Mohammed cartoon is a trifle and they think it's OK to murder because of them, then you are on their side because you would rather die than flatly say they are wrong to murder over what are, objectively, trifles.i

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Soren wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 10:44am: Karnal wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 11:25pm: Soren wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 1:56pm: Karnal wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 11:14pm: Soren wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:21pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:30pm: More to the point, why would they want to? Perhaps to deflate Islam's far too large claims for itself and its demand that everyone fall in line with its regard for Muhammed?  You know, self-deprecation, not taking themselves too seriously, realising that they might be wrong and so not being so goddamned insistent and self-righteous to the point of murderousness. Ah. You mean unlike your good self, no? Allah Uakbar. Stupid PB. Nobody is going to be hurt if they draw a cartoon of me or write anything unflattering. Ah yes. You've fixated upon the bit about "the point of murderousness". Of course you have. Yeah, sorry to notice that they kill people for trifles. They may be "triffles" to you, Soren but I'm sure they take them very seriously indeed.  No one takes human life unnecessarily unless they are a sociopath, such as most Islamophobes appear to be...   ::)

If you cannot see the very strong sociopathic tendencies within Islam, I suspect you are indulging in wishful thinking.

issuevoter wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

If you cannot see the very strong sociopathic tendencies within Islam, I suspect you are indulging in wishful thinking.

If you cannot see the strong sociopathic tendencies within Christianity, I suspect you are indulging in wishful thinking...  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

issuevoter wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 5:55pm: If you cannot see the very strong sociopathic tendencies within Islam, I suspect you are indulging in wishful thinking. If you cannot see the strong sociopathic tendencies within Christianity, I suspect you are indulging in wishful thinking...  ::)

I invite you to identify - rather than simply insinuate - those sociopathic tendencies, dicko.



You may roll you eyes.

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Richard Dawkins calls it a delusion. Darrel Ray describes it as a virus. Adding my two cents to the discussion, I regard it as a sociopathic cult. Everything you read in this book will support my premise if you keep a few facts in mind regarding the sociopathic/cultish behavior. When I use the term 'sociopath', I am not implying anything criminal regarding the people still mired in their cult although some of them are or have been criminals who have committed many offenses. I'm merely positing that they all have a sociopathic nature because they've been taught, right from the bible, to be sociopaths. Hating your family, yourself (sins), or the world are a few of the many biblical teachings they've been subjected to which point to an alienation from society by these people. Some of the many characteristics of a sociopath are: Pathological Lying It's almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities (for salvation?). The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way. Shallow Emotions When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive (get someone 'saved'). Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person such as the death of a loved one or some other tragedy which they simply shrug off as being in a god' will. And the most important trait of all which is the purpose of this book: Callousness/Lack of Empathy Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. I can't count the times I've seen this behavior exhibited by the cultists. Sharing the 'good news' with someone on her deathbed instead of simply holding her hand and comforting the person is one such example out of many. The stories in this book will, hopefully, show these characteristics at work in the bible thumping fundamentalist who is completely mired in a cult but is completely unaware of his situation. The various stories are taken from actual conversations I've had with the believers and numerous teachings their clergy have concocted which reinforce the sociopathic cult like behavior among the flock. This brings me to the second characteristic I mentioned - the cult. I don't think I have to go into great detail in describing what a cult it since most of you are probably aware of many of its traits. In fact, many non cultists such as those who are members of Ex-Christian.Net have begun referring to Christianity and its members as a cult just like any other one we see today. Following a person, without question is one of the primary traits of a cult. It is sometimes called the 'cult of personality' and can have disastrous consequences. I don't have to remind you of Jim Jones or David Koresh or any of the fanatical religious leaders throughout history who have wrecked peoples' lives. I consider Christianity, particularly the American version of it as being the cult of Paul. The one time Pharisee actually started the movement which millions now follow. They have no idea of the manipulative and persuasive teachings Paul concocted in order to wrest the faith away from the original followers and recreate it into what he regarded as the proper religion for believers. Another characteristic of a cult, which goes hand in hand with the first one cited, is the blind obedience to rules, regulations, and doctrines. In this case I'm referring, of course, to their bible which they follow as though it's some kind of godlike sacred magic which has an answer for everything we face in life which of course it doesn't. This book is not meant to be exhaustive in its content regarding the sociopathic cult they call Christianity. It is simply my own experience of over 25 years with them - first as one of them and then later, an outsider merely observing their strange teachings and behavior. When I refer to a god it will always be lower case, not out of any disrespect but simply because the god they've created comes right out of their 'good' book, the bible. In other words, out of thin air and nothing more. In fact we can simply call it the bible god because that's exactly what it is - an idea or concept that was developed over thousands of years through various writings by ancient, primitive man.

[http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-Christianity-The-Sociopathic-Cult]

Sounds a lot like you actually Soren.   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Soren wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 6:17pm: issuevoter wrote on May 24th, 2015 at 5:55pm: If you cannot see the very strong sociopathic tendencies within Islam, I suspect you are indulging in wishful thinking. If you cannot see the strong sociopathic tendencies within Christianity, I suspect you are indulging in wishful thinking...  ::) I invite you to identify - rather than simply insinuate - those sociopathic tendencies, dicko. You may roll you eyes.

Indeed, I do.  Appears HB has beaten me to it.   ::)