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Title: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by wally1 on May 25th, 2015 at 11:16am Israel: MP tears up Gospel after calling it an “abominable book” Yesterday a photographer captured the shocking scene of Israeli MP Michael Ben-Ari tearing up a copy of the New Testament and throwing it in the bin. He did not commit this act in just any old place; he did it in the Knesset, the Israeli Parliament. Mr. Ben-Ari is a member of HaIhud HaLeumim (National Union) a religious Jewish right wing party close to the Occupy Movement. The gesture - which brings to mind the action of U.S. pastor Terry Jones who set fire to a copy of the Koran - was in response to an “unacceptable provocation” by the Israeli Bible Society, an Evangelical entity which in recent days sent a copy of the New Testament in Jewish to all 120 Israeli MPs. ““We are pleased to send you this book which we hope will help you and illuminate your way,” the accompanying letter written by Victor Kalisher read. “We hope and pray that this book may help you in your important position in service of the people.” A very unwise move in a country like Israel where Christian proselytism is a topic that has always caused tension. Arutz Sheva, the news agency that is most sympathetic to the religious conservatives, promptly reported the news the other day, with the headline: “Christians Flood Knesset with ‘New Judaism’”. The article said many MPs were furious about this gesture and that Tzipi Hotolevy, a member of the Likud party, has specifically asked Knesset’s president, Reuven Rivlin, “to put a stop to the dissemination of what she said is outright missionary material in the Knesset.” But yesterday, Michael Ben-Ari decided to go even further and got a photographer to capture the moment when he publicly ripped the pages out of the book in question and then threw them in the bin. As he did so he said: “This abominable book [the New Testament] brought about the murder of millions of Jews in the Inquisition and autos da fé.” “This is a provocation by church missionaries and there is no doubt that this book and those who sent it belong in the garbage can of history.” One look at the MP’s CV and it becomes instantly clear as to why he decided to make this gesture. Mr. Ben-Ari who is 48 years old was born to Eastern Jewish parents and grew up in one of the roughest neighbourhoods on the outskirts of Tel Aviv. Today he lives in the Karnei Shomron settlement and is the first Israeli MP to not hide the fact that he is a follower of Meir Kahane, founder of the racist party Kach. The party was banned in Israel for inciting anti-Arab hatred after the massacre of 29 Palestinians in 1994 by colonizer Baruc Goldstein at the Tomb of Abraham in Hebron. For this reason, the U.S. has denied him a visa on more than one occasion, referring to U.S. anti-terrorism legislation. In 2009 Mr. Ben-Ari captured people’s attention when he made some inflammatory comments about Benedict XVI’s visit to Israel: “Giving the Pope a State welcome would mean turning one’s back on the millions of Jews who were killed throughout the history of Christianity.” The MP’s glaring insult to the New Testament could have repercussions for relations between Israel and Evangelical conservatives, who have been one of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s foremost allies in the U.S. The incident comes just a few weeks before Mormon Mitt Romney’s visit to Israel. . As part of his race for the White House Romney added a visit to Jerusalem precisely in order to show a break with the Obama administration on the issue of the country’s closeness to the Jewish State. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 25th, 2015 at 12:21pm
And nobody is rioting.
Fancy that. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by wally1 on May 25th, 2015 at 12:27pm Soren wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 12:21pm:
Ask your mate abbott to bomb/drone israel, or is drones/bombs only for muslim countries? |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Sprintcyclist on May 25th, 2015 at 1:05pm
no crime anywhere to rip up a bible.
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Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by wally1 on May 25th, 2015 at 1:26pm Sprintcyclist wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Because your farqed in the head |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 25th, 2015 at 2:55pm wally1 wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Yes. They are very naughty. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Hot Breath on May 25th, 2015 at 6:46pm Soren wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 2:55pm:
Perhaps you could spend your time on criticising them as well Soren? ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Noneofyourbusiness on May 25th, 2015 at 6:55pm wally1 wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Do you think that muslim countries are being bombed and targeted because one person ripped up a bible do you? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by wally1 on May 25th, 2015 at 7:01pm Noneofyourbusiness wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 6:55pm:
Muslim countries get bombed for less,let me see hear,maybe there are no WMD in Iraq. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 25th, 2015 at 8:22pm |dev|null wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 6:46pm:
Bombing them is no criticism enough? |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Secret Wars on May 25th, 2015 at 8:29pm
Imagine if a Jewish MP ripped up a Koran? Deaths all over the world and Obama would have to make speeches calling for calm.
Rip up a bible, nothing happens. There is a lesson in that but no lefty will ever be able to figure it out. ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 25th, 2015 at 8:33pm Secret Wars wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 8:29pm:
Ah, but piss on a Crucifix and then take a photo of it and put it on display? Christians have had a lot to say about that, now haven't they? Make a movie about the Last Temptation of Christ and listen to them howl! Make a movie about my namesake, a naughty boy indeed, and see how they try and stop it being shown! ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 25th, 2015 at 8:40pm Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 8:33pm:
Still, nobody got killed. Murder must be a really minor detail in your view of the world, Brain, to equate the response to piss christ with the response to Mo cartoons. Just shows what a dishonest man you are. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Secret Wars on May 25th, 2015 at 8:40pm Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 8:33pm:
Say. Not kill. I am sure you genuinely cannot tell the difference between killing cartoonists and objecting to them by having a bit of a howl. Or sentencing novelists to death. Or other deadly results from upsetting Muslims. And I say that will all empathy, I get that you luvvies are too thick to understand the differences. It is not your fault. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 25th, 2015 at 8:55pm Secret Wars wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 8:40pm:
Oh, I understand the difference. You though, have no idea where Christianity has been in it's history about all this, over the last two millennia. The Office of the Doctrine of the Faith (aka "The Inquisition") has been around a long, long, time, Matty. ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Secret Wars on May 25th, 2015 at 9:03pm Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 8:55pm:
Oh I don't think you do. I am talking now, the present, the lived in reality of our times. If you genuinely believe that the carnage resulting from a Jewish MP ripping up a bible is the same as the carnage that would result if that same Jewish MP ripped up a Koran you are a fool or a liar. Or both. So my question to you is, do you think the result would be the same? |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 25th, 2015 at 10:18pm Secret Wars wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
Ultimately? Perhaps. Unlike you claim, there is a third alternative - a wise man who understands more about the topic than you claim. There are crazy Muslims, there are crazy Christians and there are crazy Jews, young man and once they all start to dance around, screaming about the sanctity of their Holy Works, then the world should be worried. ::) Google: millenarianism. You might find the result interesting when you compare it to that living reality you carp on about. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Secret Wars on May 25th, 2015 at 10:31pm Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 10:18pm:
:D :D. You must be a fool then, or a liar, probably both if you want anyone to believe the result of a Jewish MP burning a bible would be the same as a Jewish MP burning a Koran. A Jewish MP burning a Koran would result in muslims going smacking batshit crazy, deaths and synagogues in flames. And if you cant figure those repercussions yourself then you are too dopey to deal with, a liar and a fool. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 25th, 2015 at 10:38pm
No, Matty the only man here who is a fool and a liar is yourself. You ignored the point I was making and attempted to pot me with a single line. Tsk, tsk. Such an unsporting little trick that. ::)
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Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Lionel Edriess on May 25th, 2015 at 11:02pm Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 10:38pm:
Tsk, tsk! What an undeserved criticism when not mentioning a specific point you made in one of your last three posts, or which post in which you made that point. "Such an unsporting little trick that." 8-) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Sprintcyclist on May 25th, 2015 at 11:15pm Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 8:33pm:
It's ok to say you dislike things. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Yadda on May 25th, 2015 at 11:26pm Soren wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 12:21pm:
Well said, Soren!!!!! |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Yadda on May 25th, 2015 at 11:31pm To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters. Keep the faith, in Yahweh. Be strong in hope. You are a unique and 'called out' people. Recognise, and never forget that fact! Embrace hope!!! +++ A beautiful witness of [his] faith, from a Jewish man. '....as i came to faith......it was clear, that that was the most Jewish thing i could do.' transcribed from this YT ------------- > Mordechai Mottel Baleston https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67fhPR6YtRY 1 Samuel 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart. Psalms 73:1 Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart. God chooses. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Sprintcyclist on May 25th, 2015 at 11:45pm Yadda wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 11:26pm:
rioting ........... he's not even been threatened. Nor should he be. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Noneofyourbusiness on May 26th, 2015 at 5:08am wally1 wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 7:01pm:
No they don't, clown |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by wally1 on May 26th, 2015 at 6:41am
I don't support any book being damaged being the bible,Torah or the Koran but seems like people especially the Christians approve of this Jew destroying there bible and most seem amused by it.
Pretty disappointing. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Sir Bobby on May 26th, 2015 at 6:48am wally1 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 6:41am:
Someone should have got a copy of his Bible or Torah & ripped it up in front of him. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Noneofyourbusiness on May 26th, 2015 at 6:12pm wally1 wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 6:41am:
I doubt a christian would find it amusing, which would go against what they believe in, wouldn't it? Is there nothing you have a solid grip on as far as this post goes? And the word you were looking for is their, not there. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by double plus good on May 26th, 2015 at 6:16pm
It's an insulting act on the part of this jewboy. I doubt any heads are going to get chopped off . This act will just feed the american right wing.
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Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 26th, 2015 at 9:15pm double plus good wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 6:16pm:
Matty, your anti-Semitism is showing... ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 26th, 2015 at 9:30pm Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2015 at 8:55pm:
No, you do not. You are a complete fraud and dishonest idiot who will try to insinuate that there is no difference between Islamic murders and non-violent Christian protest. Just look at you own post, you squishy, disgusting, dishonest liar. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Chimp_Logic on May 26th, 2015 at 10:09pm
What if an Iranian MP ripped up a copy of the Gospels in Tehran? or a copy of the Old testament - now that would be on the front page wouldnt it.
Any reaction in the USA? What would good old Andrew Bolt do on behalf of his Zionist master Rupert? I wonder what editorial he would write for 2 or 3 years - copy after copy after copy. God forbid that a Palestinian would have ripped up a copy of the Gospels in public. Gee I wonder what the response would be then by Abbott-oir and his puppet freak maggots in canberra. Obama would be outraged wouldnt he ladies and gentlemen the hypocrisy in here is breath taking |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 26th, 2015 at 10:45pm Chimp_Logic wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 10:09pm:
You are the worst kind of dickhead there is. Just pathological. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Whywhyhuh on May 26th, 2015 at 10:46pm Chimp_Logic wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 10:09pm:
You're not wrong. Their would be protests and violence in the streets stating with slogans and signs saying behead those that insult the bible and the world will submit to Christianity and behead those that insult it. They will promote women genitalia mutilation is ok. They will burn mosques to the ground. They will round up muslims and line them up along the beaches and behead them all. They will then turn on their local churches and do the same to their own kind. Then they will take to the streets and shoot all employees of any organization that prints a bad article about the bible. They will crucify muslims on crosses and behead them. They will cut up little babies. The hypocrisy here is certainly breath taking to say the least. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Whywhyhuh on May 26th, 2015 at 10:49pm
They will probably throw homosexuals from the roof tops too just to show how intelligent they are.
They would probably start shooting rockets at the muslim infidels in Indonesia across the border hiding in deaf and dumb mime schools and wonder why indo hammer fists them on the head repeatedly. They would probably suck in all the loons to fight for their cause claiming to be downtrodden and not accepted. It would be chaos because of christianophobia everywhere to say the least. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 27th, 2015 at 12:09am Soren wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 9:30pm:
Tsk, tsk, straight into the nightly diatribe of ad hominem insults, yet again, Soren. I feel sorry for you, I really do. ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Karnal on May 27th, 2015 at 11:42pm Soren wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 10:45pm:
University of Balogney eh, dear boy? We can tell! |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 28th, 2015 at 6:42pm Karnal wrote on May 27th, 2015 at 11:42pm:
Yeah, sorry, I was speaking Latin there for a moment. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 28th, 2015 at 7:31pm Soren wrote on May 28th, 2015 at 6:42pm:
Really? Where? ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 28th, 2015 at 9:51pm Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
You are the worst kind of dickhead there is. Just pathological. There. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Secret Wars on May 28th, 2015 at 10:11pm
Well nothing much happened. So I suppose this can go in the corner as an example of what happens when a Jewish MP rips up a bible.
Coming soon, because it will happen, a Koran will be insulted and if history is a guide, muslims will go batshit crazy and people will die. And as history is a guide, apologists will learn nothing and deny everything. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 28th, 2015 at 11:19pm Soren wrote on May 28th, 2015 at 9:51pm:
Soren, I feel rather sorry for you. Your heart is filled with such hatred for your fellow men. ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on May 29th, 2015 at 7:15pm Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2015 at 11:19pm:
It's not hate, it's the drive to heal. I am a psychiatrist, a doctor, a soul doctor. When I come across a dickheaddle who happens to be the worst case, I try to heal. I don't abandon, I don't shrug my shoulder and go on. I stop and want to make it better. And healing starts with naming, diagnosing, correctly. Misdiagnoisis is worse than no diagnosis. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on May 29th, 2015 at 11:11pm Soren wrote on May 29th, 2015 at 7:15pm:
How long have you suffered from this delusion, Soren? How long have you believed that by hating your fellow man you could cure him? ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Sir Bobby on May 29th, 2015 at 11:17pm Bobby. wrote on May 26th, 2015 at 6:48am:
Or use it as toilet paper? |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by double plus good on May 30th, 2015 at 12:37am
Nobody cares what a Jewboy thinks anyway. They stood by and didn't fight when their family and friends were thrown in ovens.
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Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by mothra on May 30th, 2015 at 12:40am double plus good wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 12:37am:
I don;t think it was a simple as all of that Double. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by double plus good on May 30th, 2015 at 12:41am mothra wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 12:40am:
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Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on Jun 15th, 2015 at 1:18pm Brian Ross wrote on May 29th, 2015 at 11:11pm:
No hate, Brain. I am your good samaritan. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Karnal on Jun 15th, 2015 at 1:37pm Soren wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 1:18pm:
Exactly. Ban them. Carpetbomb them. Nuke them. Where there was id, there shall ego be, no? |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on Jun 15th, 2015 at 7:00pm Karnal wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 1:37pm:
Exactly. Hanging's too good for 'em. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on Jun 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm Soren wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 7:00pm:
Except of course, you can choose who to hang and who not to, Soren. "Carpetbombing" and "Nuking" them, doesn't discriminate. ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on Jun 17th, 2015 at 8:55pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm:
Well, if you want to beat the enemy in a war, you kill the enemy. That's the thing about war. It is waged against the enemy. Don't go into war unless you are prepared to kill and destroy the enemy until he knows he's beaten. If you are not prepared to do that, do not engage in war because you will lose. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on Jun 17th, 2015 at 9:34pm Soren wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 8:55pm:
Nope, no subtly about you, is there, Soren? Sun Tzu would suggest that killing the enemy is the last thing you should be doing to defeat him. I tend to agree with him in that regard... ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 8:54pm
He is not an authority for all occasions, so don't come with your nudge-nudge nonsense, Brain.
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Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 11:41pm Soren wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 8:54pm:
He is acknowledged as one of the masters of military strategy, Soren. I'll take his word over yours, any day of the week. His isn't coloured by Islamophobia... ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Soren on Jun 25th, 2015 at 8:44pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 11:41pm:
What is Sun Tsu's advice on how to win a war? Tell us, Brain. |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Brian Ross on Jun 26th, 2015 at 12:32am Soren wrote on Jun 25th, 2015 at 8:44pm:
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” “Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.” “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” “To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill” “One may know how to conquer without being able to do it. ” Sun Tzu, The Art of War ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Jewish MP rips up the bible- Post by Yadda on Jun 26th, 2015 at 8:40am Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2015 at 12:32am:
Moslems have been fighting against the infidel for over 1,400 years. Moslems [over 1,400 years of practice], have leaned something, about how to very effectively conduct warfare for the least cost to your own 'forces', and how it is indeed possible to defeat a pliant enemy, without a hot war. Quote:
Moslems in Sweden, calming their enemy, smart, cunning. Promise the infidel, either moslem terror, or peace with moslems, and convince your enemy to choose the path of 'peace' [which will be 'can be secured' by progressively surrendering, more, and more political power to moslems]! Swedes in Sweden, dumb, and slavish. [and the Swedes are being led to an [eventual] great slaughter, of native Swedes. ....because moslem war strategists [with centuries of experience] know how to best convince their enemy, that the enemy of the moslem, should surrender to the moslem, if their enemy wants to secure 'peace' with the moslem. 'Peace', is a promise. .......which moslems have learnt, can be offered, as a means to extract political concessions from their enemy, and which can eventually secure the total surrender [collapse or resistance] of their enemy!]. Sweden seeks peace with moslems. Sweden is in surrender 'mode', because moslems in Sweden have promised an absence of hostility [towards the Swedish state], in exchange for co-operation, with the moslem desire for 'peace', with local non-moslems. Allah's Apostle said, "I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...." hadith/bukhari #004.052.220 ".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....." hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062 |
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