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Title: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 8:58pm

David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with, the dictates of ISLAM'

IMAGE....

David Cameron - ".....Islam is a religion of peace."

"Terror attacks in France, Tunisia, and Kuwait ?

It is NOT ISLAM."

- David Cameron

In the wake of the terror attacks in France, Tunisia, and Kuwait, killing +60 people ----- >

British Prime Minister David Cameron has declared that today's terror attacks in France, Tunisia, and Kuwait have nothing to do with ISLAM....

"....Islam is a religion of peace."

- David Cameron

Quote:

UK’s Cameron: Today’s jihad attacks are “not in the name of Islam. Islam is a religion of peace.”

June 26, 2015 3:07 pm By Robert Spencer

This denial of what the jihad terrorists themselves explain is their guiding ideology, as if they don’t mean what they say or don’t understand their own religion, is hamstringing the West’s response to the jihad terror threat. With this willful ignorance, Cameron is leading his country to ruin. “Cameron: ‘This is not Islam; it’s a perverted ideology and we must fight it,’” Times of Israel, June 26, 2015:

......[David Cameron] says this terrorism is “not in the name of Islam. Islam is a religion of peace.” The killers, rather, “do it in the name of a twisted, perverted ideology.”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/06/uks-cameron-todays-jihad-attacks-are-not-in-the-name-of-islam-islam-is-a-religion-of-peace

I thought that we were moving past this...

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1427968785/0#0

But apparently not.

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David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with, the dictates of ISLAM' .....David C. is certain! :D

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by issuevoter on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 11:34pm

David Cameron is a coward; he knows Islam is not a religion of peace. You could argue that he just does not want to see civil unrest, but a lie is a lie all the same.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Whywhyhuh on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 12:40am

David Cameron is worse than an extremist.

He says this terrorism is “not in the name of Islam. Islam is a religion of peace.” The killers, rather, “do it in the name of a twisted, perverted ideology.”

So he is calling Islam a twisted sick perverted ideology (fair enough) but its not Islam. This sort of political correctness for islam has sailed well and truly already.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by cods on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:24am

I think we should all be "praying" he is right.

why dont you guys try to understand the message..

you probably have a Muslim living next door to you...wouldnt you rather he be a man of peace thana terrorist waiting to find his REAL calling???????

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

et real if all leaders of the world go around slamming Islam... like you people.... the whole world will be on fire ..

no need to worry about climate change...... bah humbug to you guys...

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Dame Pansi on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:44am

What cods said, why go upsetting the peaceful Muslims?

That don't make no sense at all.

Of course young people will get their back up if they keep getting blamed for something they don't/didn't do.....Zaky Mallah said it, you don't listen to people, that's your trouble.

We should be working with the Muslim community, not against them.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Resolute on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:45am

Cameron is pacifying the Muslim population in U.K. and he is kowtowing to the arseholes in the E.U. The vast majority of British (Anglo) people want the government to stop this crap at its borders, stop the madness which the Muslims are perpetrating in the country, and send the bastards back to their country of origin, and if they were born in U.K. of muslim decent, kick them out as well.

Cameron was only re-elected because of his promise to hold a referendum on E.U. membership, and the fact that the Labour alternative Ed Miliband was/is a total f##k up!

A religion of peace my arse!

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Resolute on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:50am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:44am:

Pity you weren't on the beach in Tunisia!

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 11:26am

issuevoter wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 11:34pm:

1/ David Cameron is a coward;

2/ he knows Islam is not a religion of peace.

3/ You could argue that he just does not want to see civil unrest,

4/ but a lie is a lie all the same.

I have absolutely no argument, with what you have concluded.

IMO, history will record that it was the decades of 'denial-ist' politics [i.e. the persistent refusal to confront an 'inconvenient' reality, about ISLAM], of political leaders like Cameron, Obama, Blair, Bush, et al, that led our Western nations into civil strife, and local war, and a future bloodbath. [....maybe those things are what the 'higher ups' want to happen ?]

Continuing to avoid [and deny], continuing to refuse to CONFRONT, a distasteful and unpleasant truth [which confronts us], can never lead us to a solution, of that distasteful and unpleasant truth.

IMO, we need to confront what is real, ...even those things which we find to be distasteful and unpleasant.

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Isaiah 28:15
Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Isaiah 28:18
And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 11:45am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:44am:

What cods said, why go upsetting the peaceful Muslims?

.....
.....

We should be working with the Muslim community, not against them.

Moslems are 'playing us', and moslems appear doing it very well [at least as far as their deception, of the broader host community is concerned] !

In public declarations, the moslem community assure us [infidels] that, "ISLAM is a benign and tolerant religion."

But behind closed doors, many imam's who are living in the West, advise their community, that moslems must reject Western values, rules, and laws.

Watch this advice being given, watch Channel 4 [UK] Undercover Mosque on YT

Google;
dispatches undercover mosque, channel 4, -Return

Google;
taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Google;
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

Quote:

Taqiyya

“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”

google

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1430227148/14#14

Quote:

ISLAM is a philosophy which promotes and encourages moslems [who live within a stronger non-moslem jurisdiction] to engage in a relationship of veiled hostility towards that non-moslem jurisdiction.

And then, when many moslem individuals 'fail to thrive' within any non-moslem jurisdiction, the moslem community en-masse claim victimhood status, and insistently claim that moslems are the victims of hostility and prejudice from non-moslems.

[quote]July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them" (Qur'an 3:28). In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

Google

Google,
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

[/quote]

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 11:48am

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

why dont you guys try to understand the message..

Their Islamophobia prevents them from having any real understanding.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Honky on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 11:57am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:44am:

We should be working with the Muslim community, not against them.

Incorrect.

There shouldn't be a muslim community to work with or against.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 12:01pm

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

cods,

You are a 'denialist'.

cods,

Like many today, you are a person who refuses to acknowledge, what is true,    ...what is undeniably true.

ISLAM is NOT a benign and tolerant faith    [no matter what a moslem has told you].

-------- >

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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IMAGE...

London, moslem street protests.

Moslems 'demonstrating' - just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,    TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by innocentbystander. on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 7:51pm

David Cameron has got nothing to do with conservatism either. ;D

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:22pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 7:51pm:

David Cameron has got nothing to do with conservatism either. ;D

No argument.

David Cameron has got nothing to do with 'liberalism' either.    [i.e. open to freedom of expression, to the open contest of ideas]

Dictionary;
liberal = =
1 respectful and accepting of behaviour or opinions different from one’s own; open to new ideas.    favourable to individual rights and freedoms.       regarding many traditional beliefs as dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change.
2 favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate political and social reform.

In the UK, ISLAM is protected from criticism, by UK laws.

Google;
UK law, prison, for criticising ISLAM

David Cameron is an EVIL, WICKED man,    imo.

Just like Tony Blair.....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434579922/2#2

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"In the UK, ISLAM is protected from criticism, by UK laws."

That is what is needed, here in Australia too,       laws to protect religions from criticism and denigration,    so that moslems should not be offended,       and so that people Yadda could be sent to prison [and silenced]!       :o

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Whywhyhuh on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:38pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:44am:

LOL that made me laugh, if you want to pander to the muslim community go right ahead. If you are so islamophobic they scare you so much you don't want to offend them be prepared to be called on it.

I have never heard such rot in supporting a grubby little extremist turd as that one. What a shame we have the likes of people like that in our community.

All the bleeding hearts ignore what islam teaches with their fingers crossed behind their backs they don't cop one in the face from em.

Where are these so called peaceful muslims protesting ISIS and extremists.

Where are these so called peaceful muslims denoucing the HOLY SCRIPTURES OF ALLAH THAT EXTREMISTS USE.

What does their book say about you the apologist. You might be surprised I pleasantly was.

At the end of the day muslims mean nothing to you period they are just a means to a political end.

Zaky Mallah is only an excuse to have a shot politically he could have been abo for all you care.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by cods on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 7:18am

Yadda wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 12:01pm:

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

I will confess I do not read you posts [fully] far to confusing for me...and usually what I call reverse hatred.... they hate me so I hate back but thats ok for me to do that because I SAID SO...

ok.. makes sense to people like you and whywhy..

I really couldnt careless what you think because I dont see you out there bashing Muslims and telling them to leave.... ::) ::)

sure your full of BIG talk on here...spreading your form of HATE...makes you feel a big man I guess..

does it solve world conflict????????????

not that I can see.....

your no better than those you complain about...

b ut your safe you are doing it under cover of anonymity [so brave]

so you know no one will be knocking on your door with a machete in their hands

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:33am

cods,

Yeah.

Yadda is just a frightened little mouse, hiding.

.....if you say so.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:37am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:44am:

mallah also said 2 specific reporters should be gangbanged and threathened the life of an AFP official.
He offered a bounty on a politician.

he should be deported.

It is not up to us to assimilate with muslims.

Muslims, leave your cult or leave Australia.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by cods on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:37am

Yadda wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:33am:

cods,

Yeah.

Yadda is just a frightened little mouse, hiding.

.....if you say so.

well give us your address and phone number and I will pass it on to all those muslims you want to give a piece of your mind too???>>..not hard is it?

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:40am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:44am:

Well said, sprint.

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by cods on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:41am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 8:44am:

he was born here.....I dont think he has duel anything...

sometimes we have to accept responsibility for our own...like it or not.. he isnt the only bad person here...

is he misguided or truly brainwashed?????

what about the Aussies in Syria right now something along the lines of over 100.. doing god only knows what?...even if they are only feeding the head hunters they are contributing to the killing... ::) ::)

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by innocentbystander. on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 7:06pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 10:38pm:

Zaky Mallah is only an excuse to have a shot politically he could have been abo for all you care.

Yep, if Mallah had got on Q and A and said global warming was crap the idiot left would have gone apoplectic and wanted him silenced. ;D

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 9:11pm

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:33am:

cods,

Yeah.

Yadda is just a frightened little mouse, hiding.

.....if you say so.

well give us your address and phone number and I will pass it on to all those muslims you want to give a piece of your mind too???>>..not hard is it?

Yes, good idea.

Why don't you confront them, Yadda?

Not a coward, are you?

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:14am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 9:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:33am:

cods,

Yeah.

Yadda is just a frightened little mouse, hiding.

.....if you say so.

well give us your address and phone number and I will pass it on to all those muslims you want to give a piece of your mind too???>>..not hard is it?

Yes, good idea.

Why don't you confront them, Yadda?

Not a coward, are you?

greggery,

You need only observe crowd [and herd] behaviour, to know that human populations are full of cowards.

You ask if i am a coward.

Do you believe that i am a 'herd animal' ?

You can think so.

From my earliest memory, i have always been separate, from the herd [of humanity].

Those around me, can feel the 'sickness' that i carry.

And yet, i can see.

That 'merit', is worth more than 'advantage'.

And that is my 'sickness'.

Psalms 3:4
I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and he heard me out of his holy hill. Selah.

Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Yadda on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:18am

Yadda wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

Those around me, can feel the 'sickness' that i carry.

And yet, i can see.

That 'merit', is worth more than 'advantage'.

And that is my 'sickness'.

Psalms 3:4
I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and he heard me out of his holy hill. Selah.

Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?

"Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Statesman

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:34am

Yadda wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 9:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 29^th, 2015 at 8:33am:

cods,

Yeah.

Yadda is just a frightened little mouse, hiding.

.....if you say so.

well give us your address and phone number and I will pass it on to all those muslims you want to give a piece of your mind too???>>..not hard is it?

Yes, good idea.

Why don't you confront them, Yadda?

Not a coward, are you?

Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 3:33pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWDiUMzRUys

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Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 8:05pm

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Title: Re: David Cameron - 'ISLAM has got nothing to do with,
Post by issuevoter on Jul 2^nd, 2015 at 6:51am

And what would a critical examination of Islam find? A number of things, starting with very loosely joined tribes who will murder each other if given the chance and societies that contribute nothing to human progress. Being an Arab or a Persian does not make you a Muslim. It is a mental fixation with the dark ages and its violent, and ultimately suicidal neurosis.