Ashton Platt, the 10-year-old boy whose question on Q&A stole the show, was scripted for him

THE family of a 10-year-old boy who asked a video question on the ABC’s Q&A program on Monday night about Tony Abbott’s “attack” on free speech has admitted it was scripted for him. 
 
Ashton Platt a bespectacled 10-year-old from Highbury in South Australia asked whether he should be “afraid” of Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s condemnation of the ABC following the controversial June 22 episode featuring convicted criminal and terrorism sympathiser Zaky Mallah.

The youngster said he had spent his holidays watching WWII films and realised that attacking freedom of speech was one way in which dictators tried to control public debate and thoughts.

But the boy’s mother, Suzi, said the question was not a spontaneous one by her son and the whole family had drafted it.

The question sparked a lot of debate online both immediately after it and throughout the day.

His father, Paul, also admitted on Neil Mitchell’s 3AW radio program that it was not written directly by him.

He said that until recently his son had been a “huge supporter of Tony Abbott”.

“We find that quite interesting because of all the negative media,” Mr Platt said.

“As a family we tend to watch predominantly the ABC and the SBS.”

Twitter and the internet was awash with criticism and support following the boy’s question, again leaving the program the centre of controversy.

The show came under fire after it allowed Mallah to ask a question of the panel from the audience last month.

Mallah was charged and cleared under terror laws in 2005 but pleaded guilty to threatening to kill ASIO officers.

He said the government’s stance on citizenship gave justification to young Australian Muslims wanting to join ISIS.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/television/ashton-platt-the-10-year-old-boy-whose-question-on-qa-stole-the-show-was-scripted-for-him/story-fni0cc2c-1227441778619

Shame on the ABC using this ten year-old boy in their continued attacks on Abbott. Just sell off the ABC already!

This passes as news at the daily stupidity?

____ wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

This passes as news at the daily stupidity?

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SENATOR Sarah Hanson-Young, who callously claimed “tragedies happen, accidents happen” after an asylum seeker boat sank between Australia and Indonesia, has used taxpayer money to help fund a trip to rescue illegal arrivals off Italy.

The Greens Senator brushed off the deaths of 200 asylum seekers when a vessel sank in 2011 and slammed the Abbott government’s boat policy despite it ending the 1100 deaths at sea which happened under the previous government.


this is more to greenswhines taste ap... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D... more fraud....

of course the greens like fraud.. and the fact that our ABC is stooping to their level probably makes them feel a whole lot better... right greeny???

____ wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

This passes as news at the daily stupidity?

Thank goodness the Greens no longer have the balance of power - or any power, for that matter. :)

The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters.

Deport him.

Kat wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters.

I'm not surprised that you'd defend the deplorable actions of ABC in using this ten year-old kid for their own twisted political purposes.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

Deport him.

Can we? I thought the head of the ABC was born here.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:01am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:59am: Deport him. Can we? I thought the head of the ABC was born here.

Deport the kid. Jail his family.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

Shame on the ABC using this ten year-old boy in their continued attacks on Abbott. Just sell off the ABC already!

Absolutely disgraceful.    >:(

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

Deport him.

what kat???.. what a good idea. trouble is no one would take some one that sour.. and delusional.. even the taliban have standards.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I am so glad hes a lefty.. :P :P :P :P

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:01am: Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:59am: Deport him. Can we? I thought the head of the ABC was born here. Deport the kid. Jail his family.

did mallah get deported?.. I didnt know that?

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:59am: Deport him. what kat???.. what a good idea. trouble is no one would take some one that sour.. and delusional.. even the taliban have standards.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I am so glad hes a lefty.. :P :P :P :P

That kid deserves everything he gets, dear.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:05am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:40am: Shame on the ABC using this ten year-old boy in their continued attacks on Abbott. Just sell off the ABC already! Absolutely disgraceful.    >:(

Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:05am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:40am: Shame on the ABC using this ten year-old boy in their continued attacks on Abbott. Just sell off the ABC already! Absolutely disgraceful.    >:( Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

For once, I agree with you.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

cods wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:06am: Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:59am: Deport him. what kat???.. what a good idea. trouble is no one would take some one that sour.. and delusional.. even the taliban have standards.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I am so glad hes a lefty.. :P :P :P :P That kid deserves everything he gets, dear.

fyi Kat is no KID>

seriously? this is what you whinge about? that the family drafted a question and got the kid to ask?

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1065625/man-laughing-o.gif

get a life people

The righties have their own twitter child. Look up caleb bond on twitter and see what I mean.

Disgusting indoctrination of a young kid. These parents need a belting and leave their kids alone to be kids.

This child will suffer from being raised in a family of worriers, neurotics and people of low confidence.
So much better for your prospects of success to be raised by a successful small business husband and wife.
Children absorb emotions like a sponge.
Overly emotional parents who worry too much about these sorts of things will have the boy being treated for clinical anxiety by the age of 17.
Its really a type of child abuse

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

seriously? this is what you whinge about? that the family drafted a question and got the kid to ask? http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1065625/man-laughing-o.gif get a life people

Unsurprisingly, John_Stupid can't see the wrong in this... ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

This child will suffer from being raised in a family of worriers, neurotics and people of low confidence. So much better for your prospects of success to be raised by a successful small business husband and wife. Children absorb emotions like a sponge. Overly emotional parents who worry too much about these sorts of things will have the boy being treated for clinical anxiety by the age of 17. Its really a type of child abuse

Any sort of political indoctrination would be.

HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:23am:

Disgusting indoctrination of a young kid. These parents need a belting and leave their kids alone to be kids.

Family Services need to be involved. This is clearly a child protection issue.

Peter Dutton should ban them.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:32am: seriously? this is what you whinge about? that the family drafted a question and got the kid to ask? http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1065625/man-laughing-o.gif get a life people Unsurprisingly, John_Stupid can't see the wrong in this... ::)

Unbelievable. If JS doesn't see the harm being done to this leftard boy, he'll never understand.

It's just fortunate that he wasn't allowed in the studio. The last thing the ABC needs now is another security threat.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

Shame on the ABC using this ten year-old boy in their continued attacks on Abbott. Just sell off the ABC already!

Time to privatise the ABC and SBS.

It's a billion dollar a year albatross with piss poor ratings.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:40am: Shame on the ABC using this ten year-old boy in their continued attacks on Abbott. Just sell off the ABC already! Time to privatise the ABC and SBS.

Exactly. Sell it off to Rupert. He can turn them into high-rating, unbiased channels - like Fox News.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:40am: Shame on the ABC using this ten year-old boy in their continued attacks on Abbott. Just sell off the ABC already! Time to privatise the ABC and SBS. Exactly. Sell it off to Rupert. He can turn them into high-rating channels - like Fox News.

I don't think Rupert would be interested,the ratings for the ABC are too low

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:08pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:40am: Shame on the ABC using this ten year-old boy in their continued attacks on Abbott. Just sell off the ABC already! Time to privatise the ABC and SBS. Exactly. Sell it off to Rupert. He can turn them into high-rating channels - like Fox News. I don't think Rupert would be interested,the ratings for the ABC are too low

No worries. He can close them down once and for all and get rid of the competition.

Rupert has morals. News Ltd would never stoop to a low like this.

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:59am: Deport him. what kat???.. what a good idea. trouble is no one would take some one that sour.. and delusional.. even the taliban have standards.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I am so glad hes a lefty.. :P :P :P :P

And so is he.

ANYTHING is better than being, or supporting, these stinking fascist Rightards.

ANYTHING!

Kat wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters.

Don't forget the Daily Terrorgraph Telegraph, a Murdoch rag that makes an eloquent case for imposing editorial balance rules on all media, not just the ABC.

Bam wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:21pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55am: The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters. Don't forget the Daily Terrorgraph Telegraph, a Murdoch rag that makes an eloquent case for imposing editorial balance rules on all media, not just the ABC.

Nonsense. The ABC should be given to Rupert to make it less biased.

That's what they're saying in the papers, anyway.

Parents influencing their children, what next....The ABC has a lot to answer for!!!

::) ::) ::)

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:21pm: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55am: The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters. Don't forget the Daily Terrorgraph Telegraph, a Murdoch rag that makes an eloquent case for imposing editorial balance rules on all media, not just the ABC. Nonsense. The ABC should be given to Rupert to make it less biased. That's what they're saying in the papers, anyway.

Interesting.  Which papers and which articles?

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:25pm: Bam wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:21pm: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55am: The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters. Don't forget the Daily Terrorgraph Telegraph, a Murdoch rag that makes an eloquent case for imposing editorial balance rules on all media, not just the ABC. Nonsense. The ABC should be given to Rupert to make it less biased. That's what they're saying in the papers, anyway. Interesting.  Which papers and which articles?

Look, if you have to ask, you’ll never understand.

Typical.

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 7:44pm:

Parents influencing their children, what next....The ABC has a lot to answer for!!! ::) ::) ::)

Exactly. We’re going to privatize it.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:12pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:48pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:25pm: Bam wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:21pm: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55am: The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters. Don't forget the Daily Terrorgraph Telegraph, a Murdoch rag that makes an eloquent case for imposing editorial balance rules on all media, not just the ABC. Nonsense. The ABC should be given to Rupert to make it less biased. That's what they're saying in the papers, anyway. Interesting.  Which papers and which articles? Look, if you have to ask, you’ll never understand. Typical.

soooooo, that not being said in the papers? 

Making stuff up?

Typical.   8-)

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:12pm: Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:48pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:25pm: Bam wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:21pm: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55am: The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters. Don't forget the Daily Terrorgraph Telegraph, a Murdoch rag that makes an eloquent case for imposing editorial balance rules on all media, not just the ABC. Nonsense. The ABC should be given to Rupert to make it less biased. That's what they're saying in the papers, anyway. Interesting.  Which papers and which articles? Look, if you have to ask, you’ll never understand. Typical. soooooo, that not being said in the papers?  Making stuff up? Typical.   8-)

Now you’re defending these people.

Pathetic.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:32am: seriously? this is what you whinge about? that the family drafted a question and got the kid to ask? http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1065625/man-laughing-o.gif get a life people Unsurprisingly, John_Stupid can't see the wrong in this... ::)

Unsurprisingly, you prove once again why you are the village idiot.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:22pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:15pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:12pm: Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:48pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:25pm: Bam wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:21pm: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55am: The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters. Don't forget the Daily Terrorgraph Telegraph, a Murdoch rag that makes an eloquent case for imposing editorial balance rules on all media, not just the ABC. Nonsense. The ABC should be given to Rupert to make it less biased. That's what they're saying in the papers, anyway. Interesting.  Which papers and which articles? Look, if you have to ask, you’ll never understand. Typical. soooooo, that not being said in the papers?  Making stuff up? Typical.   8-) Now you’re defending these people. Pathetic.

What people? 

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:22pm: Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:15pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:12pm: Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 7:48pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:25pm: Bam wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 12:21pm: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55am: The only low ANYONE has plunged to, is this filthy government and its deluded supporters. Don't forget the Daily Terrorgraph Telegraph, a Murdoch rag that makes an eloquent case for imposing editorial balance rules on all media, not just the ABC. Nonsense. The ABC should be given to Rupert to make it less biased. That's what they're saying in the papers, anyway. Interesting.  Which papers and which articles? Look, if you have to ask, you’ll never understand. Typical. soooooo, that not being said in the papers?  Making stuff up? Typical.   8-) Now you’re defending these people. Pathetic. What people?

You know what people. You’re an apologist.

As soon as we deport them and privatize the ABC, you people will be next.

Another fluff piece from the Tele, but I am curious as to how much a News Ltd subscription costs to view utter tripe?

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:25pm:

What people?

EXACTLY!

The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:55pm:

The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort.

That’s what I’d give him, Mistie. How does he expect to get good marks if his parents tell him the questions?

FAIL.

If there were any similarities there wouldn't be any leftists around to argue with.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:06pm:

If there were any similarities there wouldn't be any leftists around to argue with.

That’s why we need to privatize the ABC, Mistie.

We need to get rid of this nonsense once and for all.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:06pm: If there were any similarities there wouldn't be any leftists around to argue with. That’s why we need to privatize the ABC, Mistie. We need to get rid of this nonsense once and for all.

Well, you wouldn't get rid of leftist views once and for all, but you wouldn't hear much from them anymore. Look where leftism exists without public funding.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:15pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:06pm: If there were any similarities there wouldn't be any leftists around to argue with. That’s why we need to privatize the ABC, Mistie. We need to get rid of this nonsense once and for all. Well, you wouldn't get rid of leftist views once and for all, but you wouldn't hear much from them anymore. Look where leftism exists without public funding.

Here on this board?

Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 8:55pm:

The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort.

Not YET, perhaps.

But it's coming, unless the neo-fascist filth currently infesting the country and the parliament are 'removed'.

And they will be. Count upon it.

Kat wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55pm: The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort. Not YET, perhaps. But it's coming, unless the neo-fascist filth currently infesting the country and the parliament are 'removed'. And they will be. Count upon it.

Obviously you were abroad or asleep during Comrade Conroy's attempts to censor the media in its entirety.

Kat wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55pm: The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort. Not YET, perhaps. But it's coming, unless the neo-fascist filth currently infesting the country and the parliament are 'removed'. And they will be. Count upon it.

Not yet, eh? Isn't that what you've been saying for a few years. When will it happen? 

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 16^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55pm: The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort. Not YET, perhaps. But it's coming, unless the neo-fascist filth currently infesting the country and the parliament are 'removed'. And they will be. Count upon it. Obviously you were abroad or asleep during Comrade Conroy's attempts to censor the media in its entirety.

You know this is a lie. The media reforms never went to any serious level of "Censorship" but would result in severely needed media self-regulation.

The Abbott Government's level of censorship and assault on freedoms though ARE paralleled quite easily to the Reichstag Fire Decree along with other authoritarian controls by this Government that dance red line into flat out Fascism.

From Brandis controlling art funding with an iron fist and only funding bourgeois old arts like the Opera and Ballet (literally what Goebbels did) to lack of transparency to absolutely draconian citizenship and gestapo style spying laws that have already been expanded well beyond the original scope. Not to mention the reactionary, xenophobic populist politicking You would have to be blind to not to see the parallels easily made between this Government and Fascism (The Abbott Government, like the LNP in general since it's founding has always been cut from the exact cloth as latifundia reactionary fascist parties that espoused "liberal" values but were authoritarian and held massive disregard for human rights when in power).

you get used to armpit lying Kiron ...

and when he can't find an article to support his lies, he'll simply edit them.

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:19am: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55pm: The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort. Not YET, perhaps. But it's coming, unless the neo-fascist filth currently infesting the country and the parliament are 'removed'. And they will be. Count upon it. Obviously you were abroad or asleep during Comrade Conroy's attempts to censor the media in its entirety. You know this is a lie. The media reforms never went to any serious level of "Censorship" but would result in severely needed media self-regulation. The Abbott Government's level of censorship and assault on freedoms though ARE paralleled quite easily to the Reichstag Fire Decree along with other authoritarian controls by this Government that dance red line into flat out Fascism. From Brandis controlling art funding with an iron fist and only funding bourgeois old arts like the Opera and Ballet (literally what Goebbels did) to lack of transparency to absolutely draconian citizenship and gestapo style spying laws that have already been expanded well beyond the original scope. Not to mention the reactionary, xenophobic populist politicking You would have to be blind to not to see the parallels easily made between this Government and Fascism (The Abbott Government, like the LNP in general since it's founding has always been cut from the exact cloth as latifundia reactionary fascist parties that espoused "liberal" values but were authoritarian and held massive disregard for human rights when in power).

So funding and defunding certain programs is fascism? Hmm .. Well, that makes every government fascist. One could argue though that defunding a program is a type of censorship, but that's not the type of censorship we are talking about, is it? We're talking about those who are denied to speak their mind on legal grounds.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:15pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:19am: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55pm: The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort. Not YET, perhaps. But it's coming, unless the neo-fascist filth currently infesting the country and the parliament are 'removed'. And they will be. Count upon it. Obviously you were abroad or asleep during Comrade Conroy's attempts to censor the media in its entirety. You know this is a lie. The media reforms never went to any serious level of "Censorship" but would result in severely needed media self-regulation. The Abbott Government's level of censorship and assault on freedoms though ARE paralleled quite easily to the Reichstag Fire Decree along with other authoritarian controls by this Government that dance red line into flat out Fascism. From Brandis controlling art funding with an iron fist and only funding bourgeois old arts like the Opera and Ballet (literally what Goebbels did) to lack of transparency to absolutely draconian citizenship and gestapo style spying laws that have already been expanded well beyond the original scope. Not to mention the reactionary, xenophobic populist politicking You would have to be blind to not to see the parallels easily made between this Government and Fascism (The Abbott Government, like the LNP in general since it's founding has always been cut from the exact cloth as latifundia reactionary fascist parties that espoused "liberal" values but were authoritarian and held massive disregard for human rights when in power). So funding and defunding certain programs is fascism? Hmm .. Well, that makes every government fascist. One could argue though that defunding a program is a type of censorship, but that's not the type of censorship we are talking about, is it? We're talking about those who are denied to speak their mind on legal grounds.

You mean doctors in detention centers or Human rights lawyers who had their offices raided by ASIO under the orders of Brandis?

Also it isn't a case of "funding and defunding" the funding of the arts was done by a independent council, Brandis has centralized arts funding straight to his desk and then has gone about funding on the arts he thinks are right, which happen to be arts completely out of reach of the working class and poor and largely out of touch of modern society, expensive operas and expensive ballets. This IS a very Fascist thing to do, it's EXACTLY what the Fascists themselves did. It sends the message that art is something for the bourgeoisie, plebs don't deserve art and art that creates critical thinking is even worse.

This is also ignoring the other ways the Government has acted Fascistically, perhaps one policy here another there, the Fascist analogy would be hyperbole, but there is a very dangerous trend in this Government towards Fascist politics in which I honestly think they've crossed the line. I have no problem saying that I honestly believe that Brandis and Morrison are outright sociopaths and Fascists. Brandis and Morrison are also two politicians that scare the living **** out of me and if one ever became Prime Minister, I would be on a plane overseas very quickly.

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:26pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:15pm: Kiron22 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:06pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:19am: Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55pm: The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort. Not YET, perhaps. But it's coming, unless the neo-fascist filth currently infesting the country and the parliament are 'removed'. And they will be. Count upon it. Obviously you were abroad or asleep during Comrade Conroy's attempts to censor the media in its entirety. You know this is a lie. The media reforms never went to any serious level of "Censorship" but would result in severely needed media self-regulation. The Abbott Government's level of censorship and assault on freedoms though ARE paralleled quite easily to the Reichstag Fire Decree along with other authoritarian controls by this Government that dance red line into flat out Fascism. From Brandis controlling art funding with an iron fist and only funding bourgeois old arts like the Opera and Ballet (literally what Goebbels did) to lack of transparency to absolutely draconian citizenship and gestapo style spying laws that have already been expanded well beyond the original scope. Not to mention the reactionary, xenophobic populist politicking You would have to be blind to not to see the parallels easily made between this Government and Fascism (The Abbott Government, like the LNP in general since it's founding has always been cut from the exact cloth as latifundia reactionary fascist parties that espoused "liberal" values but were authoritarian and held massive disregard for human rights when in power). So funding and defunding certain programs is fascism? Hmm .. Well, that makes every government fascist. One could argue though that defunding a program is a type of censorship, but that's not the type of censorship we are talking about, is it? We're talking about those who are denied to speak their mind on legal grounds. You mean doctors in detention centers or Human rights lawyers who had their offices raided by ASIO under the orders of Brandis?

I am sure there was a reason for such raids.


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Also it isn't a case of "funding and defunding" the funding of the arts was done by a independent council, Brandis has centralized arts funding straight to his desk and then has gone about funding on the arts he thinks are right, which happen to be arts completely out of reach of the working class and poor and largely out of touch of modern society, expensive operas and expensive ballets. This IS a very Fascist thing to do, it's EXACTLY what the Fascists themselves did. It sends the message that art is something for the bourgeoisie, plebs don't deserve art and art that creates critical thinking is even worse.

One has to wonder why the Arts need to be funded at all.

Arts funding has been very kind to lefties. If you have lefties handing out funding, then obviously lefties will be the main beneficiary of that funding. Brandis may be merely stemming the tide of that. If he is, then good.

Millions are spent on lefty programs and courses in universities (albeit through the Education sector and not Arts). Ever walked the halls of a Humanities or Social Science department? It's tax payer funded lefty central. These departments have become now no more than a 'think tank' or propaganda machine for the Labor and Greens parties.



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This is also ignoring the other ways the Government has acted Fascistically, perhaps one policy here another there, the Fascist analogy would be hyperbole, but there is a very dangerous trend in this Government towards Fascist politics in which I honestly think they've crossed the line. I have no problem saying that I honestly believe that Brandis and Morrison are outright sociopaths and Fascists. Brandis and Morrison are also two politicians that scare the living **** out of me and if one ever became Prime Minister, I would be on a plane overseas very quickly.

Frothing at the mouth lefties are a good indication the country is on the right track.

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I am sure there was a reason for such raids.

Yeah, covering up corruption.


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One has to wonder why the Arts need to be funded at all.

Because it's largely not financially viable without Government funding. There would literally be no art produced in Australia at all. No TV shows, no paintings, no sculptures, no plays, no operas, no music. Entire industries would collapse and thousands from art suppliers and producers, to musicians to artists to Music stores would be out of work very fast.


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Millions are spent on lefty programs and courses in universities (albeit through the Education sector and not Arts). Ever walked the halls of a Humanities or Social Science department? It's tax payer funded lefty central. These departments have become now no more than a 'think tank' or propaganda machine for the Labor and Greens parties.

People who critically think and ask questions tend to be left wing? Wow, such revelation, better destroy all culture and free thought then! 



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Frothing at the mouth lefties are a good indication the country is on the right track.

So you have no problem with Fascism as long as it targets people who's crime is their opinions differ from yours, righteo then.

You're done. Next!

For the record, I am not against the arts. I am merely against left-wing moralising that tries to pass itself off as art or critical thinking.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:54pm:

For the record, I am not against the arts. I am merely against left-wing moralising that tries to pass itself off as art or critical thinking.

"I don't think art should be anything more than pretty pictures and nice music that does nothing to challenge the status quo, everyone knows Post-Modernism is a Cultural Marxist plot from the Frankfurt school anyway"

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:54pm:

For the record, I am not against the arts. I am merely against left-wing moralising that tries to pass itself off as art or critical thinking.

How many people go to the Opera or Ballet....Talk about catering to the elite....Whilst grass root artists get nothing established high end entertainment get swamped with taxpayers money....Brandis can shove his Opera and Ballet IMO!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:54pm: For the record, I am not against the arts. I am merely against left-wing moralising that tries to pass itself off as art or critical thinking. "I don't think art should be anything more than pretty pictures and nice music that does nothing to challenge the status quo, everyone knows Post-Modernism is a Cultural Marxist plot from the Frankfurt school anyway"

So should art simply be a vehicle for rebellion for lefties? Like agitprop?

Before lefties took over art, art was something that attempted to capture the beautiful, in the Platonic sense, or represent an aspect of reality.

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 11:07pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:54pm: For the record, I am not against the arts. I am merely against left-wing moralising that tries to pass itself off as art or critical thinking. How many people go to the Opera or Ballet....Talk about catering to the elite....Whilst grass root artists get nothing established high end entertainment get swamped with taxpayers money....Brandis can shove his Opera and Ballet IMO!!! >:( >:( >:(

It seems to annoy you that tax payers' money is being used for artistic purposes that you dislike. Imagine how non-leftists have felt for a few decades. Funnily, there's probably many lefties in the opera and ballet.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 11:16pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:57pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 10:54pm: For the record, I am not against the arts. I am merely against left-wing moralising that tries to pass itself off as art or critical thinking. "I don't think art should be anything more than pretty pictures and nice music that does nothing to challenge the status quo, everyone knows Post-Modernism is a Cultural Marxist plot from the Frankfurt school anyway" So should art simply be a vehicle for rebellion for lefties? Like agitprop? Before lefties took over art, art was something that attempted to capture the beautiful, in the Platonic sense, or represent an aspect of reality.

Then photography happened.

Please google Postmodernism for beginners, a PDF should come up, take a read, it explains very simply why this is a very backwards way of thinking and why modern art is the way it is. (it's also a very, very fun and entertaining book)

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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 16^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

Kat wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 9:43pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15th, 2015 at 8:55pm: The similarities between the censorship of speech between 1933 and 1945 have no parallel to Australia in 2015. I can see why the leftists want to make the connection though. 2/10 for effort. Not YET, perhaps. But it's coming, unless the neo-fascist filth currently infesting the country and the parliament are 'removed'. And they will be. Count upon it. Obviously you were abroad or asleep during Comrade Conroy's attempts to censor the media in its entirety.

Oh, I know. Considering a strengthened media watchdog in the aftermath of a phone-tapping scandal and an independent media review is no more than fascism.

SHAME LABOR SHAME

Criticism of ABC plunges to new low.....

All fixed......... no need to thank me and send a cheque for $1500 for one day's consultant's fee....