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Message started by gandalf on Jul 20th, 2015 at 11:29pm

Title: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by gandalf on Jul 20th, 2015 at 11:29pm

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the latest Newspoll result has Labor’s two-party lead at 53-47, up from 52-48 a fortnight ago, from primary votes of 40% for the Coalition (steady), 39% for Labor (up two) and 12% for the Greens (down one).


http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2015/07/20/newspoll-53-47-to-labor-6/

Hey Australian voters - haven't you heard?? The royal commission is smashing labor, Shorten's in disarray and Tony has a spring in his step. No? You mean you didn't get that memo?  ;D

Poor Tony - the voters just don't play fair.

Further proof that the polls are consolidating around a solid 52/53 TPP lead for labor after a brief recovery for the libs from catastrophic to merely bad.

Also further proof that the preferred PM rating is a pretty meaningless measure.

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by Fit of Absent Mindeness on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:00am
Tony and co don't get it - they have burned all their political capital.

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by John Smith on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:01am
it must be a rogue poll  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by John Smith on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:02am
I can't wait for longie to come and tell us about the latest 'trend'  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by Bam on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:39am

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:02am:
I can't wait for longie to come and tell us about the latest 'trend'  ;D ;D ;D ;D

No, he'll do one of two things: hide under a rock whenever the polls move away from the Coalition, or denounce it as a "rogue poll".  ;D

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by Bam on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:42am
For a bit of context, Bob Hawke won the 1983 election with a 2PP of 53.2%-46.8%.

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by Very_Vinnie on Jul 21st, 2015 at 10:53am

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:02am:
I can't wait for longie to come and tell us about the latest 'trend'  ;D ;D ;D ;D



The latest 'trend' is that the Coalition have barely managed to win a small handful of polls since the last Federal Election - and certainly none in the last year





Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by Very_Vinnie on Jul 21st, 2015 at 10:59am

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:00am:
Tony and co don't get it - they have burned all their political capital.



Abbott's ongoing support of attempted public purse theft by members of his party can't be helping things





Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Jul 21st, 2015 at 11:09am
The polling reflects the only obstacle and any tangible progress with the Libs  is the PM himself.

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by gandalf on Jul 21st, 2015 at 11:29am

Very_Vinnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2015 at 10:53am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2015 at 9:02am:
I can't wait for longie to come and tell us about the latest 'trend'  ;D ;D ;D ;D



The latest 'trend' is that the Coalition have barely managed to win a small handful of polls since the last Federal Election - and certainly none in the last year


Actually zero since about January 2014. They managed to level in one a couple of months back. They have now settled in to a solid 52/53 lead for Labor. Which is quite incredible really, when you think of all the media hype about lacklustre Shorten, the royal commission and Tony having a spring in his step.


Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by Dame Pansi on Jul 21st, 2015 at 11:53am
All that money wasted on a RC that was supposed to nail Shorten and destroy the Labor Party.

Libs=wastrels.

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by John Smith on Jul 21st, 2015 at 1:13pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 21st, 2015 at 11:29am:
when you think of all the media hype about lacklustre Shorten, the royal commission and Tony having a spring in his step.



that's because people don't vote GOVERNMENTS IN, they vote GOVERNMENTS OUT.

Shorten bought the RC to a head by attending early, he could have delayed it for a few months but he knew it would reflect badly and affect his immediate numbers. He also knew that if he went in early, that by the time Abbott calls an election the libs would have made so many more blunders that any concerns over him would be overlooked by a large portion of the voting public.

It was the same with Gillard, no matter how bad Abbott looked before the election (and if you are honest you have to admit he looked terrible, he had no polices, he promised no cuts to anything while delivering a surplus etc) it didn't' matter. People were determined to get rid of the sitting government.

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by oHTheStenchofCopperInternet on Jul 21st, 2015 at 1:23pm
".. Hey ho He ho: Bronwyn Bishop has to go; Hey ho Hey ho..." !!!

Who wants their clever country back? Then demand a royal commission into copper-internet-gate from Bill Shorten when he wins the election that should be called today!

:o :o

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by mothra on Jul 21st, 2015 at 4:27pm
Well, there goes any hope of an early election.

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by John Smith on Jul 21st, 2015 at 5:43pm
The writing is on the wall for Abbott and his lemmings, even the liberal MP's staffers are starting to jump ship


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-21/senior-lnp-staffer-defects-to-labor/6637844

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by John Smith on Jul 21st, 2015 at 8:41pm
funny how longstupidone hasn't commented on the latest poll

it's normally one of his favourite topics

Title: Re: Uh-Oh the voters must have missed the memo
Post by Bam on Jul 22nd, 2015 at 12:02am

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2015 at 8:41pm:
funny how longstupidone hasn't commented on the latest poll

it's normally one of his favourite topics

It's not funny at all. It's quite predictable, actually.

Polls move towards the Coalition ... he's shouting from the rooftops.
Polls move back towards Labor ... he's nowhere to be seen.

It's silly ... beating up the numbers of one poll makes as much sense as remarking that the latest Tattslotto numbers have drawn six numbers below 30. It's the same process - random chance.

The only thing that matters is the trend. The consistent trend lately is that the poll numbers are wandering around the 52-48 mark, and this poll does nothing to suggest that this is about to change.

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