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His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html?rref=us&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&pgtype=article


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He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles/story?id=32549315


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Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre ... On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?

Is it possible that it can be misleading to sift through and find all the perpetrators who have an association with Islam - and in the process ignore other commonalities they may have had with other mass murderers - which may better explain their behaviour?

Put simply, can it be misleading, or even wrong to hold up two (or more) separate atrocities committed by muslims and declare "Islam is the common denominator - therefore Islam to blame"?

All three suffered from either a mental illness or mental retardation (Bryant).   Islam is a secondary matter as far as motivation for their crimes when compared to the mental turmoil they suffered from because of their illness/treatment.   Of course, because they were Muslim, it is their religion which gets picked by the Islamophobes as to the cause of their actions.  However, when a Christian commits a crime and they are mentally ill, it is the mental illness that is understood to be their motivator, rather than their religion.

Just another example of Islamophobic thinking at work, G.    ::)

Actually only one of them was muslim.

The point I am making is that to claim that the Chatanooga shooting was caused by mental illness would be ridiculed as spinelessly apologising for Islam from some quarters. And the explanation given would be to point out all the other muslim atrocities and link this shooter with them - sarcastically asking "whats the common denominator here?" Yet these people wouldn't think to apply the same logic if he is linked with other mass murderers who are not muslim - but share a different commonality with him. Its not that I'm saying that either Islam or mental illness should be definitely ruled in or out as the primary cause - its explaining why pointing to something other than Islam when a muslim is involved shouldn't be dismissed out of hand has spineless apologism for Islam. Especially since it applies the exact same logic as those use to insist Islam is the cause.

How can a person or group of people be  be mentally ill and organise bombs, cars, time tables etc like the Bali Bombings? Bryant was just plain nuts. That's why he's in a psychiatric prison. Of course Islam is the motivating factor for many terrorist attacks.

double plus good wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

How can a person or group of people be  be mentally ill and organise bombs, cars, time tables etc like the Bali Bombings? Bryant was just plain nuts. That's why he's in a psychiatric prison. Of course Islam is the motivating factor for many terrorist attacks.

Bryant is in Risdon Prison, Hobart.  It is not a Psychiatric Prison, it is the standard prison for ordinary inmates.  AIUI he resides in the Hospital Wing of the prison because the other prisoners have a record of picking on him.

Many people with mental illnesses can organise very well thought out and planned crimes.  There is often no limits to their thinking, except in the more extreme cases.   I'm sure Soren would concur with that (if he was honest).   As a Psychiatrist friend once explained it to me - they are thinking logically, to them, it just is illogical to everybody else!    ::)

Islam is often a haven for those with emotional and mental problems because it offers organisation and structure - things that they crave and which ordinary life does not offer.  That they take to heart the more extreme elements of that religion is not unusual.  That they act upon those thoughts, is.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:48pm:

double plus good wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 12:40pm: How can a person or group of people be  be mentally ill and organise bombs, cars, time tables etc like the Bali Bombings? Bryant was just plain nuts. That's why he's in a psychiatric prison. Of course Islam is the motivating factor for many terrorist attacks. Bryant is in Risdon Prison, Hobart.  It is not a Psychiatric Prison, it is the standard prison for ordinary inmates.  AIUI he resides in the Hospital Wing of the prison because the other prisoners have a record of picking on him. Many people with mental illnesses can organise very well thought out and planned crimes.  There is often no limits to their thinking, except in the more extreme cases.   I'm sure Soren would concur with that (if he was honest).   As a Psychiatrist friend once explained it to me - they are thinking logically, to them, it just is illogical to everybody else!    ::) Islam is often a haven for those with emotional and mental problems because it offers organisation and structure - things that they crave and which ordinary life does not offer.  That they take to heart the more extreme elements of that religion is not unusual.  That they act upon those thoughts, is.    ::)

psychiatric wing of Risdon Prison in Hobart (Wikipedia).

Oh boy so now it all about mental health only, well the muslims have certainly sprung to the top in the insanity stakes.

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The following is compiled by: Date Country City Killed Injured Description

2015.07.23 Iraq Mosul 9 0 Nine civilians are publicly beheaded by caliphate children

2015.07.23 DRC Mayi-Moya 3 0 ADF Islamists burn down ten homes and murder three women

2015.07.22 Nigeria Gombe 42 105 Over forty people are blown to bits by Boko Haram bomb blasts at two different bus stations.

2015.07.22 Cameroon Maroua 13 32 Two girls disguised as beggars blow themselves up in a crowded market. Thirteen innocents are killed in the suicide blasts. 

2015.07.22 Afghanistan Alamar 19 32 A Shahid suicide bomber self-detonates at a market, slaughtering nineteen bystanders. 

2015.07.21 Iraq Baghdad 19 43 A Fedayeen suicide bombing claims the lives of nineteen innocents at a busy clothing store. 

2015.07.21 Yemen Sanaa 4 8 Children are among the casualties when the Islamic State sets off a car bomb near a Shia mosque. 

2015.07.20 Turkey Surac 32 97 A Shahid suicide bomber wipes out over thirty innocents, mostly university students on a humanitarian mission. 

2015.07.20 Nigeria Damaturu 6 12 A half-dozen people are turned to pulp by two suicide bombers. 

2015.07.19 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A defense volunteer is machine-gunned by Muslim terrorists while on his way home. 

2015.07.19 Iraq Baghdad 4 7 A bomb blast on a commerical street leaves four dead. 

2015.07.19 Iraq Mahmoudiya 7 0 A family of seven is exterminated in their own home by Islamic terrorists. 

2015.07.19 Cameroon Kamouna 23 0 Twenty-three residents of a fishing village are massacred during a raid by Sharia advocates, including nine students burned to death. 

2015.07.19 Iraq Baghdad 3 11 Three people are killed by Mujahid bombers. 

2015.07.18 Pakistan Salim Khan 1 0 The Taliban shoot a man returning home from a house of worship. 

2015.07.18 Egypt Sheikh Zueid 7 7 FundamAnsa Bayt al-Maqdis fundamentalists attack a group of local soldiers, killing seven. 

2015.07.17 Afghanistan Alisher 1 4 Taliban bombers target a family visiting the grave of a previous victim, killing a child. 

2015.07.17 Afghanistan Kangori 1 11 Fundamentalists bomb a rival mosque, killing one worshipper. 

2015.07.17 Nigeria Damaturu 15 41 A 10-year-old girl and elderly woman are strapped with suicide vests and sent onto a rival prayer ground. 

2015.07.17 Syria Homs 1 0 The caliphate has a 10-year-old boy behead a captive. 

2015.07.17 Iraq Kahn Bani Saad 120 170 Children are among over one-hundred innocents cut down by Mujahid bombers while celebrating Ramadan. 

2015.07.17 Afghanistan Zazi Maidan 2 0 A suicide bomber takes out two people at a rival mosque. 

2015.07.17 Afghanistan Sholgar 3 14 Strict Islamic law activists set off a bomb outside a rival mosque that kills three worshippers, inlcuding two children. 

2015.07.17 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A suicide bomber detonates at a women's universtiy, killing a guard. 

2015.07.17 Algeria Tifran 11 0 Eleven security personnel are ambushed and murdered by al-Qaeda. 

2015.07.17 Afghanistan Bukhari 1 0 An imam is pulled from his home and murdered after preaching against the Taliban. 

2015.07.17 Afghanistan Gozara 6 3 Religious hardliners murder six local cops with an IED. 

2015.07.16 Nigeria Gombe 49 71 Children are among the dozens of dead and maimed when a suicide bomber targets a market. 

2015.07.16 Libya Laith 9 30 At least nine civilians are killed during a clash with the Islamic State. 

2015.07.16 Syria Raqqa 0 94 Five children are among nearly one-hundred citizens tortured and held in cages for violating Ramadan fasting rules. 

2015.07.16 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Muslim 'separatists' ambush and kill two security personnel, then set fire to the bodies. 

2015.07.16 Saudi Arabia Riyadh 0 2 A suicide bomber attacks a rival mosque. 

2015.07.16 Afghanistan Mihtarlam 8 0 Two children are among eight people massacred during a Taliban ambush on their van. 

2015.07.16 Sryia Deir ez-Zor 4 0 Four prisoners are brought to an ancient site and shot in the back of the head by the Islamic State. 

2015.07.16 Iran Isfahan 1 0 A 14-year-old boy is reportedly hung from a tree after a cleric accuses him of being gay. 

2015.07.16 Iraq Riqqa 5 9 IS militants bomb a home, killing five occupants. 

2015.07.16 Iraq Moseliya 1 0 A TV cameraman and father of two is taken from his home and executed by the Islamic State. 

2015.07.16 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A journalist is executed by the Islamic State. 

2015.07.16 USA Chattanooga 5 2 A 'devout Muslim' stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead. 

2015.07.15 Syria Deir Ezzor 8 0 Eight civilians are crucified by the caliph for breaking Ramadan fasting rules. 

2015.07.15 Afghanistan Ahmad Wali Khan 4 4 At least four local cops lose their lives to a Fedayeen suicide bomber. 

2015.07.15 Afghanistan Miamana 0 19 Women comprise most of the casualites when a bomb detonates outside a bank. 

2015.07.15 Nigeria Damasak 12 0 At least twelve villagers are slaughtered by Boko Haram shortly after security forces are recalled. 

2015.07.15 Afghanistan Shah Joy 2 0 A civil rights activist is among two people gunned down by religious extremists. 

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2015.07.15 Niger Bosso 16 4 Islamic radicals fire on a group of unarmed villagers, killing sixteen. 

2015.07.15 Afghanistan Nawbahar 5 0 Five innocents are shot to death by Taliban while setting up a shop. 

2015.07.15 Iraq Ramadi 8 17 Three Shahid suicide bombers murder eight Iraqis. 

2015.07.15 Iraq Baiji 11 10 Eleven secuirty personnel are sent to Allah by a Fedayeen suicide bomber. 

2015.07.15 Iraq Mosul 17 0 Seventeen fishermen are executed by ISIS for not catching their catch. 

2015.07.15 Iraq Mosul 14 0 Fourteen dissidents are executed for not folliwing Sharia rules. 

2015.07.15 Nigeria Baga 8 0 Eight civilians are summarily shot in the back of the head by Sharia activists along a highway. 

2015.07.14 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A rival imam is executed by the Islamic State. 

2015.07.14 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 The church reports that two members were kidnapped and killed in the previous two weeks. 

2015.07.14 Syria Salqin 7 0 A double suicide bombing leaves six dead. 

2015.07.14 Iraq Khalis 5 11 ISIS car bombers take out five people outside a doctor's house. 

2015.07.14 Chad Tetewa 6 0 Islamists reach an island community and massacre six children. 

2015.07.14 Afghanistan Ghani Khel 1 0 A man is beheaded on video by the Islamic State. 

2015.07.14 Nigeria Borno 20 0 Twenty travelers returning for victims of an earlier massacre are forced out of their vehicles and executed by Boko Haram. 

2015.07.13 Iraq Shirqat 5 0 Five civlians are executed by the Islamic State. 

2015.07.13 Nigeria Maiduguri 4 5 A Shahid suicide bomber hits a checkpoint screening civilians, killing four. 

2015.07.13 Kenya Lamu 3 8 al-Shabaab claims a bombing that leaves three dead. 

2015.07.13 Afghanistan Zabul 1 8 Fundamentalists target the employees of a demining company 

2015.07.13 Afghanistan Maidan Wardak 2 2 A father and son are aerated by Religion of Peace ball bearings. 

2015.07.13 Afghanistan Pul-u-Khumri 0 29 Women and children are among the casualties when fundamentalists bomb a rival mosque during the iftar dinner. 

2015.07.13 Afghanistan Lababi 1 0 A prayer leader is shot to death by Religion of Peace rivals. 

2015.07.13 Nigeria Mainok 40 0 Forty 'hapless' villagers are massacred by Islamic terrorists. 

2015.07.13 Somalia Rage Celle 7 0 Seven others are killed during an al-Shabaab attack. 

2015.07.12 Lybia Benghazi 5 17 Suspected Islamists fire a rocket into a residential district, killing five elderly men. 

2015.07.12 Iraq Mosul 10 0 Ten Iraqis are lined up and mowed down by ISIS machine-guns. 

2015.07.12 Afghanistan Kunduz 2 6 Religious hardliners plant a bomb that claims the lives of two civilians. 

2015.07.12 Libya Benghazi 19 80 Nineteen people are killed during an ISIS assault. 

2015.07.12 Niger Diffa 1 2 One guard is left dead when Boko Haram attack a prison. 

2015.07.12 Iraq Khazimiyah 8 23 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders eight people at a square outside a Shiite mosque. 

2015.07.12 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 Sunnis time a car bomb to explode just as Shias are breaking their Ramadan fast, killing four. 

2015.07.12 Iraq Baghdad 2 7 An ISIS bomb at a commercial district leaves two dead. 

2015.07.12 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A group of female Sharia police beat a woman to death for lifting her veil in a store to read a label. 

2015.07.12 Iraq Shaab 19 25 Nineteen lives are snuffed out when a suicide bomber drives into a crowded market and explodes. 

2015.07.12 Iraq Bunouk 9 15 A car bomb in a commercial district leaves nine dead. 

2015.07.12 Afghanistan Tatarkhil 10 4 Ten civlians are easily exterminated by a Taliban bomb blast. 

2015.07.12 Iraq Sharqat 1 0 Caliphate members booby-trap and set fire to a baby for demonstration purposes. 

2015.07.12 Cameroon Fotokol 11 17 Two suicide bombers murder eleven people breaking their Ramadan fast. 

2015.07.12 Afghanistan Khost 33 11 Over two dozen innocents are blown to bits by suicide car bombers. 

2015.07.11 Thailand Narathiwat 3 8 Three lose their lives when Muslims set fire to a night-club district. 

2015.07.11 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 35-year-old is shot to death by Muslim 'separatists'. 

2015.07.11 Chad N'Djamena 15 80 Fifteen people at a market are blown to bits by a suicide bomber in a burqa. 
2015.07.11 Yemen Dhalea 1 0 A Shiite shell claims the life of a child. 
2015.07.11 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 6 Three children are disassembled by Taliban bombers. 

2015.07.11 Egypt Cairo 1 4 A bystander is killed when Islamic radicals set off a car bomb outside the Italian consulate. 

2015.07.11 Egypt Rafah 1 3 A civilian is killed by an Islamist mortar shell. 

2015.07.11 Nigeria Maiduguri 4 3 A suicide bomber on a tricycle pedals to paradise, taking four civilians with him. 

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2015.07.11 Iraq Youssifiya 2 0 A Jihadi bomb blast brings down two patrons at a market. 

2015.07.11 Iraq Baghdad 4 9 A roadside blast takes care of four Iraqis. 

2015.07.11 Iraq Rashidiya 3 5 A fruit and vegetable market is the scene of much blood after Mujahid set off a bomb. 

2015.07.11 Nigeria Monguno 43 0 Islamists attack three small towns and shoot or slit the throats over over forty people. 

2015.07.10 Somalia Mogadishu 12 18 A dozen others are reported killed when Islamists attack a hotel, first with a suicide blast and then gunfire. 

2015.07.10 Nigeria Gamboru 8 0 Three women are among eight civilians casually picked off by Boko Haram gunmen. 

2015.07.10 Iraq Anbar 10 0 At least ten defenders are killed when ISIS attempt to take over a town. 

2015.07.10 Nigeria Sambisi 1 0 A man is shot and beheaded on video by militants chanting slogans to Allah. 

2015.07.10 Thailand Songkhla 1 13 Two bombings by suspected 'insurgents' leave one woman dead outside a bank. 

2015.07.10 Afghanistan Mamand 3 0 Three tribal elders are assassinated by ISIS. 

2015.07.10 Iraq Mosul 11 0 Caliphate members execute eleven Iraqis by running over their prone bodies with a bulldozer. 

2015.07.10 Iraq Baghdad 6 22 An Islamic State car bomb sends six Iraqis to their death. 

2015.07.10 Nigeria Ngamdu 11 0 Eleven villagers are cut down during a raid by Boko Haram. 

2015.07.09 Egypt al-Arish 0 20 Sharia proponents bomb a bus carrying off-duty policemen. 

2015.07.09 Iraq Fallujah 10 0 Five mothers are burned alive with their children for refusing to join the caliphate. 

2015.07.09 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslim 'insurgents' gun down an off-duty policeman outside a mosque. 

2015.07.09 Syria Midane 4 2 At least four civilians are pulverized by a Sunni rocket. 

2015.07.09 Iraq Madaen 2 11 Jihadis bomb a cafe, killing two patrons. 

2015.07.09 Iraq Zafaraniya 7 18 Seven people are wiped out by a Religion of Peace car bomb blast along a row of restaurants. 

2015.07.09 Iraq Baghdad 5 9 Two Islamic bomb blasts at markets leave five dead. 

2015.07.09 Niger Dagaya 5 0 Islamists slit the throats of five construction workers. 

2015.07.09 Iraq Haiyakil 7 9 A suicide bomber liberates seven souls with a massive truck blast. 

2015.07.08 Iraq Mosul 6 0 Six captives are lined up and shot by the Islamic State. 

2015.07.08 Libya Benghazi 1 3 One person is killed when militants rocket a hospital. 

2015.07.08 India Shopian 1 0 Islamic militants ambush and murder a local soldier. 

2015.07.08 Iraq Fallujah 11 38 ISIS sends mortars into a city, kiling eleven residents. 

2015.07.08 Iraq Fallujah 24 0 Video is released showing the bodies of 'dozens' crucified for eating during Ramadan. 

2015.07.07 Afghanistan Kabul 1 0 A suicide bomber manages to kill one other person. 

2015.07.07 Thailand Yala 1 3 Militant Muslims open fire with automatic weapons on a passing car, killing one occupant. 

2015.07.07 Yemen Baida 10 0 An ISIS car bomb produces ten dead bodies. 
2015.07.07 Iraq Shirqat 1 0 A 'witch' is strapped to a generator and electrocuted by the Islamic State. 

2015.07.07 Nigeria Zaria 26 32 Twenty-six people are torn limb from limb by a Fedayeen suicide bomber, including many woman and a 2-year-old child. 

2015.07.07 Philippines Sulu 0 13 Children are among the casualties when Abu Sayyaf toss a grenade into the street. 

2015.07.07 Nigeria Sabon Gari 4 3 A female suicide bomber detonates at a trafic checkpoint, killing four bystanders. 

2015.07.07 Kenya Soko Mbuzi 14 10 Islamists attack a sleeping village, throwing grenades into homes and setting tents with laborers on fire. 

2015.07.07 Iraq Baiji 10 30 A triple suicide blast takes out ten Iraqis. 

2015.07.07 Iraq Tuz 4 10 Children comprise the bulk of casualties when Jihadis set off a bomb outside a school. 

2015.07.07 Yemen Sanaa 1 5 One worshipper is dead after a Sunni suicide bomber attacks a Shia mosque. 

2015.07.07 Afghanistan Faryab 3 0 Three local cops are abducted and beheaded by religious fundamentalists. 

2015.07.06 Nigeria Jos 44 67 Islamic extremists set off one bomb at a restaurant and another at a rival mosque which leave over forty dead. 

2015.07.06 Syria Raqaa 2 0 Caliphate members tie two young media activists to trees and then shoot them. 

2015.07.06 Pakistan Quetta 3 2 Sunnis fire on a group of Hazara minorities, killing two. 

2015.07.06 Iraq Haditha 7 0 Seven Iraqis are exterminated by an ISIS suicide bomber on an explosives-laden bulldozer. 

2015.07.06 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A female journalist is dragged from her home and executed by the caliphate. 

2015.07.06 Syria Aleppo 25 40 An al-Qaeda suicide car bombing leaves at lease twenty-five others dead. 

2015.07.06 Iraq Shirqat 1 0 An elderly teacher is executed by an ISIS child of about 10. 

2015.07.06 Iraq Hashd Shaabi 15 18 Fifteen Iraqis security personnel are reduced to ashes by four Islamic State suicide bombers. 

2015.07.06 Iraq Mosul 4 0 Four children are killed when ISIS blow up a church. 

2015.07.05 Iraq Jisr Diyala 4 11 Four people at a restaurant are taken out in mid-bite by Religion of Peace bombers. 

2015.07.05 Nigeria Potiskum 6 43 A women, a priest and two children are among six killed when a suicide bomber detonates during a church service. 

2015.07.05 Pakistan Raghzai 3 6 Three security personnel on patrol are reduced to pulp by an Islamist roadside bomb. 

2015.07.05 Syria Damascus 2 18 A woman is among two civilians losing their lives to mortars fired by Sunni terrorists. 

2015.07.05 Iraq Baiji 9 0 At least nine others are killed by two suicide bombers. 

2015.07.05 Syria Hassakeh 20 0 Twenty people are reported dead after suicide bombers detonate at a power plant. 

2015.07.05 Nigeria Borno 9 0 Islamists return to the scene of an earlier massacre and shoot nine survivors in addition to burning thirty-churches and three-hundred homes. 

2015.07.05 Iraq Obeidi 4 14 A bomb blast at a Shiite cafe snuffs out four lives. 

2015.07.05 Chad Tiskra 13 0 A group of camel herders are waylaid and slaughtered by Boko Haram. 

2015.07.05 Iraq Baghdad 4 9 Mujahid murder four people at a bus stop with a well placed bomb. 

2015.07.05 Afghanistan Zabul 1 4 Fundamentalists open fire on a group of civilians, killing one. 

2015.07.05 Syria Ras al-Ayn 50 0 ISIS sends a 14-year-old suicide bomber into an Kurdish checkpoint, reportedly killing over fifty people. 

2015.07.05 Iraq al-Sheeha 21 0 Two suicide car bombers send twenty-one souls to Allah. 

2015.07.05 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 13 A woman is among three locals taken out by a Shahid suicide bomber outside a Shiite mosque. 

2015.07.04 Syria Palmyra 25 0 A video by the Islamic State show teens executing two dozen captives in an ancient Roman ampitheater. 

2015.07.04 Iraq Balad Ruz 3 2 The Islamic State is thought responsible for a car bomb that leaves three dead. 

2015.07.04 Iraq Doura 8 27 Sunnis plant a bomb at a parking garage in a Shiite area which lays out eight innocents. 

2015.07.04 Iraq Baghdad 9 24 Jihadis set off bombs near a row of restaurants, killing nine bystanders. 

2015.07.04 Pakistan Quetta 8 0 The targeted killing of eight police officers is blamed on the Taliban, who chanted Islamic slogans at the scene. 

2015.07.04 Egypt Rafah 1 4 A 5-year-old child is pulled into pieces by an Islamist roadside bomb. 

2015.07.04 Egypt Sheikh Zuweid 4 1 Four women and a child are killed when a suspected Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis rocket hits their house. 

2015.07.04 Yemen Aden 12 12 A dozen refugees, including five children, are disassembled by a sectarian rocket attack on a kindergarten. 

2015.07.04 Afghanistan Herat 0 3 Fundamentalists throw acid in the face of three young girls on their way to school. 

2015.07.04 Chad Merom 13 0 Islamists attack a village and slit the throats of thirteen victims. 

2015.07.03 Syria Ariha 25 0 A bombing at a mosque kills twenty-five ISIS rivals. 

2015.07.03 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A rival imam is put to death by the caliph. 

2015.07.03 Syria Damascus 1 0 A cleric is blown up by Religion of Peace rivals with a bomb hidden under his own pulpit. 

2015.07.03 Iraq Madain 5 13 Two bombs near a row of shops, leave five dead. 

2015.07.03 Iraq Baghdad 5 0 Jihadis kill three people with a bomb, then finish off two survivors with shots to the head. 

2015.07.03 Nigeria Malari 12 7 A teen female suicide bomber blows up fifteen people at a mosque. 

2015.07.03 Libya Derna 6 10 A suicide bomber takes the lives of six other people. 

2015.07.03 India Baramulla 1 1 Islamic militants cross the border from Pakistan and shoot a guard to death. 

2015.07.03 Nigeria Mussa 31 0 Pro-Sharia militants shoot six hapless villagers to death and then twenty-five others trying to flee. 

2015.07.03 Afghanistan Wardak 23 18 A second wave of Taliban attacks leaves two dozen police and village guards dead, some of whom are beheaded. 

2015.07.03 Saudi Arabia Taif 3 7 Three police are murdered in their own station by assailants inspired by ISIS. 

2015.07.03 Nigeria Zabamari 55 100 Six female suicide bombers rush into a village crowded with panicked residents and detonate in their midst, killing at least fifty-five. 

2015.07.03 Nigeria Miringa 11 0 Boko Haram pull eleven people out of their homes and slit their throats. 

2015.07.02 Syria al-Askari 4 0 Two men and a woman with her 9-year-old child are executed by an Islamic State firing squad. 

2015.07.02 Syria Aleppo 4 70 Four civilians are killed when Islamist groups attack their town. 

2015.07.02 Iraq Fatha 7 10 A Holy Warrior with a suicide vest takes out seven Iraqis. 

2015.07.02 Mali Goundam 6 5 al-Qaeda attack a UN convoy, killing six peacekeepers. 

2015.07.02 Yemen Aden 5 89 A child is among five civilians killed

2015.07.01 Egypt Sinai 68 54 Three suicide bombings and attacks on five checkpoints by religious extremists leaves dozens of soldiers and civilians dead. 

2015.07.01 Yemen Aden 31 100 Women and children are among thirty horribly killed when Shiite radicals send rockets into a port city. 

2015.07.01 Iraq Badush 22 0 Twenty-two tribesmen are executed in front of their families by Islamic State members. 

2015.07.01 Pakistan Quetta 3 0 Sunnis fire into a Shia-owned welding shop, killing three workers. 

2015.07.01 Philippines Datu Saudi 1 1 A local cop is shot to death by Bangsamoro Islamists. 

2015.07.01 Iraq Baghdad 3 11 Jihadis set off a bomb in a commerical district, killing three patrons. 

2015.07.01 Iraq Baghdad 7 22 Seven residents in two neighborhoods are laid out by bomb blasts. 

2015.07.01 India Wangam 1 0 A village headman is shot to death by Muslim terrorists. 

2015.07.01 Kenya Mandera 9 6 Nine people are killed in an attack by an al-Shabaab linked group. 

2015.07.01 Afghanistan Wardak 7 0 Nighttime raids by the Taliban claim the lives of seven local policemen. 

2015.07.01 Nigeria Kukawa 97 0 Ninety-seven residents of a fishing village are massacred by Boko Haram in their place of worship and homes, including women and twenty-two children. 

2015.07.01 Saudi Arabia Najran 1 0 Radicals Shiites murder a border guard. 

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      2015.07.23 (Mayi-Moya, DRC) - ADF Islamists burn down ten homes and murder three women.
2015.07.23 (Mosul, Iraq) - Nine civilians are publicly beheaded by caliphate children.
2015.07.22 (Gombe, Nigeria) - Over forty people are blown to bits by Boko Haram bomb blasts at two different bus stations.
2015.07.22 (Maroua, Cameroon) - Two girls disguised as beggars blow themselves up in a crowded market. Thirteen innocents are killed in the suicide blasts.
2015.07.22 (Alamar, Afghanistan) - A Shahid suicide bomber self-detonates at a market, slaughtering nineteen bystanders.
2015.07.21 (Baghdad, Iraq) - A Fedayeen suicide bombing claims the lives of nineteen innocents at a busy clothing store.

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Pho Huc wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 9:45pm:

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Jihadwatch do a running tally. The body count’s posted here on a regular basis.

It has nothing to do with Islam. Islam is a religion of peace. Read it in Arabic. It doesn’t mean what it says.

You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ?

Im not kidding, do the math.

This is why I don't think that Islam is the boogie man that its made out to be. Its human nature.
As i said to Sprint last week,  Wanna make a bet????

Even if you add the total number of murders committed by every Islamic extremist across the globe you still only get a number equivalent to the annual Murder rate of the third largest country, which has only 20% of the population of the Islamic world.

Empirically Americans are 5 times more likely to commit murder than a Moslem.
This is why i like numbers. They cut straight through the B/S


So sprint, hows about that wager???

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 12:16pm:

You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ? Im not kidding, do the math. This is why I don't think that Islam is the boogie man that its made out to be. Its human nature. As i said to Sprint last week,  Wanna make a bet???? Even if you add the total number of murders committed by every Islamic extremist across the globe you still only get a number equivalent to the annual Murder rate of the third largest country, which has only 20% of the population of the Islamic world. Empirically Americans are 5 times more likely to commit murder than a Moslem. This is why i like numbers. They cut straight through the B/S So sprint, hows about that wager???

Pho Huc,

What is the population of the USA ?

~250 million ?



Pho Huc,

Just suppose,
that somehow, 1/ ISLAMISTS were able to destroy all government authority in the USA,
and that 2/ somehow ISLAMISTS were able to establish the authority of the ISLAMIC State [the Caliphate] in the USA,
would you care to guess how many infidels [who rejected their authority] the ISLAMISTS could possibly decide to 'liquidate' ???




Pho Huc,

ISLAM, ISLAMIC doctrine, the Koran, ISLAMIC law,        all declare and confirm that within an absolute [i.e. 'pure'] Sharia jurisdiction, those who reject ISLAM [i.e. those who reject ISLAM's authority over their lives] have absolutely no protection in law.

Such people are "OUTLAWS".

And typically, traditionally, a citizen cannot be prosecuted if he kills any person who is an outlaw [i.e. a person who is outside the protection of the common law of the land].



"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land....."
Koran 8.67



.




THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

last four days added to the month of July for islamic atrocities by:

Date / Country / City / Killed / Injured Description

2015.07.27 India Gurdaspur 6 8 Militants yelling 'Allah Akbar' spray a bus with automatic weapons fire, then assault a municipal building, killing six. 

2015.07.26 Somalia Mogadishu 15 20 A suicide car bomber plows into a hotel and massacres fifteen innocents. 

2015.07.26 Nigeria Damaturu 15 47 A 10-year-old suicide bomber detonates at a packed market, scattering body parts and claiming sixteen souls. 

2015.07.26 Cameroon Tchebe-Tchebe 3 0 Boko Haram behead three villagers and set fire to their church. 

2015.07.25 Thailand Pattani 2 6 A Buddhist monk is among two killed by a Muslim bomb. 

2015.07.25 Syria Aleppo 5 0 Five children are disassembled by a Sunni rocket. 

2015.07.25 Cameroon Maroua 19 62 A female suicide bomber massacres twenty people at a bar. 

2015.07.25 Iraq Tuz Khurmatu 12 45 A dozen people at a swimming pool are blown up by two suicide bombers. 

2015.07.24 Nigeria Maikadiri 21 0 Strict Islamists open fire on hapless villagers, slaughtering at least twenty-one.

source

islam demands a never ending flow of blood to appease the satanic allah.
 

moses wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

islam demands a never ending flow of blood to appease the satanic allah.

Sure could have fooled me.  My Muslim neighbours fled other Muslims who disagree with their interpretation of Islam.  No murders around here, despite them praying to the same Allah...   ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Oh gee here we go again, it's not every muslim.

Why do muslims kill each other over the qur'an?

Oh that's right they are told to qur'an 5.32 and 5.33, plus other murderous verses all inciting muslims to torture and kill, kill, kill.

Keep making excuses for the death cult.

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 12:16pm:

You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ? Im not kidding, do the math.

There are an estimated 270 million deaths caused by muslims doing Jihad since $profit Mo started peddling his delusional beliefs.

Why do Christians kill each other over the teachings of the Bible?
Why do Buddhists kill each other over the teachings of Buddha?
Why do Hindus kill each other the teachings of the Vedas?
Why does anybody kill anybody over the teachings of anything?

I look forward to your reply which would solve all the sectarian conflict the world has ever seen Moses!   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Quote: His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html?rref=us&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&pgtype=article [quote]He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles/story?id=32549315


Quote:

Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre ... On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?
[/quote]

Being suicidal and homicidal is the worst case scenario for mental health,Islam produces a lot of suicidal and homicidal muslims.

Quote:

Why do Christians kill each other over the teachings of the Bible? Why do Buddhists kill each other over the teachings of Buddha? Why do Hindus kill each other the teachings of the Vedas? Why does anybody kill anybody over the teachings of anything? I look forward to your reply which would solve all the sectarian conflict the world has ever seen Moses!

I am unaware of any such conflicts, unless you're going to employ the age old apologist's trick of using ancient history.

I do know that right now muslims and islam are considered a world wide security threat, with countries / states being forced to spend billions of dollars on islam / muslim surveillance.

Why?

Because of blood crazed muslims all doing their best to torture / kill someone, so they can get a room full on houris with big tits.

Yadda wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 12:37pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:16pm: You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ? Im not kidding, do the math. This is why I don't think that Islam is the boogie man that its made out to be. Its human nature. As i said to Sprint last week,  Wanna make a bet???? Even if you add the total number of murders committed by every Islamic extremist across the globe you still only get a number equivalent to the annual Murder rate of the third largest country, which has only 20% of the population of the Islamic world. Empirically Americans are 5 times more likely to commit murder than a Moslem. This is why i like numbers. They cut straight through the B/S So sprint, hows about that wager??? Pho Huc, What is the population of the USA ? ~250 million ? Pho Huc, Just suppose, that somehow, 1/ ISLAMISTS were able to destroy all government authority in the USA, and that 2/ somehow ISLAMISTS were able to establish the authority of the ISLAMIC State [the Caliphate] in the USA, would you care to guess how many infidels [who rejected their authority] the ISLAMISTS could possibly decide to 'liquidate' ??? Pho Huc, ISLAM, ISLAMIC doctrine, the Koran, ISLAMIC law,        all declare and confirm that within an absolute [i.e. 'pure'] Sharia jurisdiction, those who reject ISLAM [i.e. those who reject ISLAM's authority over their lives] have absolutely no protection in law. Such people are "OUTLAWS". And typically, traditionally, a citizen cannot be prosecuted if he kills any person who is an outlaw [i.e. a person who is outside the protection of the common law of the land].

Sorry Yadda, i had to delete your mandatory Quran quotes, they were taking up to much space :)

Regarding your points sequentially

I am aware of the population of the USA(250 Mill)
I am aware of the Moslem population(1.5 Bill)
The USA has approximately 13500 murders annually. 

There are approximately 15000 death globally attributed to Islamic extremism annually.

Hence, my statement that the USA is approximately 5 times more dangerous than the middle east. based on deaths/per head of population. Not an opinion. a fact.

I hope that clarified my argument Yadda.
anywayz,


1-  Assuming that america was somehow converted into an Islamic caliphate, The numbers would indicate that you could actually expect to see a reduction in the murder rate.

The average murder rate in Islam dominated countries is 2.4 deaths per 100,000
In america the current murder rate is 4.5 deaths per 100,000.

2- Regarding your assertion that Kaffirs in the Moslom countries have no protections due to either customs or legal structures.

Indonesia-Majority muslim.
Malaysia -majority muslim.

I have traveled and worked in both these countries and was treated with respect and courtesy by all I met. No-one tried to decapitate me inspite of being an infidel. 

Many other Australians travel to these countries any also have no problems.

I understand that their are many Moslem countries which lack the stability of the referenced countries, and have a higher rate of violence but that is due to civil conflict, not religious predilection.
If it was solely caused by the Islamic faith you would expect to find the same violent trends in all Moslem countries.
   
Yadda, given your point of view wouldn't you expect more Moslem on Non-Moslem violence than Moslem on Moslem violence?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:16pm: You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ? Im not kidding, do the math. There are an estimated 270 million deaths caused by muslims doing Jihad since $profit Mo started peddling his delusional beliefs.

And my phallus has been estimated by aliens at over 16 qulongs in length.

relevance.

moses wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

[quote] I do know that right now muslims and islam are considered a world wide security threat, with countries / states being forced to spend billions of dollars on islam / muslim surveillance.

Forced to spend?
I never saw a protest demanding the invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan.

Hell, I doubt that most people would have supported the initial training/arming of the Taliban by the US which created the foundation for the WAR ON TERRUH .

I say that Military and Security services have never been happier, they are flush with cash and have an all reaching mandate to protect our valuable societies from the terrorizing threat of extreme Islam/communism/nazism/marxism whatever the flavour of the times is.

In the 40's the fight against fascism strengthened the communist movement.
In the 70's the fight against communism strengthened the Islamic militants.
In the 2000's fighting Islamic militants has strengthened extreme Islam.

Surely i am not the only person who sees a pattern in these events.
Conflict does not resolve conflict, it perpetuates it.

Love them.   

 

More excuses for atrocities committed as a spiritual requirement for the death cult.

The  meaning  of  islam  is  submission  to  the  will  of
allah. islam divides the world into dar al-islam liter-
ally the house or region of submission – those lands
under  muslim  government  –  and  dar  al-Harb  the
house or region of war – those lands where muslims
are  in  the  minority. For  muslims  peace  will  be
achieved when the whole world is dar al-islam. Until
that time there will be conflict in dar al-Harb.

I lean more towards the muslim push for a world wide islamic caliphate, being the cause of the present day troubles. 

Response deleted, Ill wait for a post supported by a decent argument.

moses wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 1:24pm:

Quote: Why do Christians kill each other over the teachings of the Bible? Why do Buddhists kill each other over the teachings of Buddha? Why do Hindus kill each other the teachings of the Vedas? Why does anybody kill anybody over the teachings of anything? I look forward to your reply which would solve all the sectarian conflict the world has ever seen Moses! I am unaware of any such conflicts, unless you're going to employ the age old apologist's trick of using ancient history.

Your head is buried in the ground it would seem then Moses.

Christians killing Christians - Africa
Buddhists killing Buddhists - SE Asia
Hindus killing Hindus - India

Look them up in Google if you don't believe me.


Quote:

I do know that right now muslims and islam are considered a world wide security threat, with countries / states being forced to spend billions of dollars on islam / muslim surveillance. Why? Because of blood crazed muslims all doing their best to torture / kill someone, so they can get a room full on houris with big tits.

Do you think they would threaten Australia if Australia wasn't involved in their affairs in the Middle-East/South-West Asia Moses?   I suspect they wouldn't even look at Australia otherwise.  Why would they?   We are a long way from their homelands.  We attract attention to ourselves by sending troops to their homelands to kill them...   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Every single muslim dreams of a world wide dar al-islam.

The good old world wide islamic caliphate.

They are a world wide problem, their cult is based on the personality of a blood crazed thief, liar, pedophile, rapist, torturer and mass murderer.

They are known by their world wide deeds of depravity.

Keep making excuses for them 

Who is excusing them?  If anything I'm providing explanations.  Explanations which you don't like Moses because they offer alternatives to your pious Christian piffle.    ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D

Oh I see it's an explanation now.

Here's some music to go with your **explanation**.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif it's got nuffinc to do wiv islam http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif cause islam's a religion of peace http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif it doesn't really mean what it says http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif cause it's written in Arabic http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif muslims only kill you http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif cause they're blood crazed lunatics http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif all they really want is http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif the houri's with big tits http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

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moses wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

Oh I see it's an explanation now. Here's some music to go with your **explanation**. http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif Islam is a mystery http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif constantly confusing me http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif  I know they like to send death threats http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif I found em on the intuhnets http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gifBe scared they kill you dawn or dark http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif but less likely than death by shark http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif But i thought shark death was really rare http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif   who cares its Islam thats got me scared http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

I rewrote it for greater accuracy!

I just cant get it to line up pretty like you do Moses, but on the flip side at least mine rhymes!

Pho Huc wrote:

Quote:

I rewrote it for greater accuracy! I just cant get it to line up pretty like you do Moses, but on the flip side at least mine rhymes!

Never mind it's a good effort to exonerate muslims and their atrocities, however the old *anyone who criticizes and condemns islam is afraid of muslims*, lost it's lustre eons ago. Today the world has woken up to the muslim / islamic threat, the net is overflowing with the disgust and horror people feel towards the cult and it's ideological degeneracy.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif  I know they like to send death threats http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif I found em on the intuhnets http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

No exoneration of anybody in my verse- excoriation only!  ;)

I really hope we never have a problem with the militarization of any segment of our community, and ill do everything i can to prevent it. we fundamentally have the same goals, only differing methods. 

I attempt to provide perspective sadly lacking in the media coverage of Islamic extremism, and hope that people may view the issues of today with a broader attitude than simple rejection.

I operate on the no-one be a d1ck to anyone principle,
wherein I feel compelled to argue with anyone being a d1ck to anyone else.

If I see anyone being a d1ck I will intervene, regardless of ethnicity or religion. Principles are important. 
 
Mostly on this site i see people being d1ck's about Islam and i feel compelled to defend it regardless of my personal beliefs.

The fact that I joined this forum to oppose Moses and Yaddas views after reading them should demonstrate just how highly the sentiments purveyed by those mentioned registered on my D1ickometer.

 

Well I'd say my perspective is pretty clear.

I want the filth and perversion which is the ideological base for islamic extremism, cleaned out of islam, qur'an, commands of allah, teachings of  muhammad.

There is no other way, the above utter evilness has to go.

Moses Islam in its current form has been here for 1500 years prior to your existence.

I seriously doubt your desire for it to totally change is going to happen in your lifetime(not unless you seriously sharpen your persuasion skills).

If you keep stating that you will only be satisfied when Islam conforms to your expectations, your gonna be unhappy for a lllooonnngg time.

Read the new testament and learn to love you neighbor-It means you get to be happy and pious! Kick ass right?

Well Pho Huc no one knows how long before truth eventually wins the battle against islamic evilness.

Warnings of the dangers of islam in it's present form are now being widely spread and accepted around the globe (if the net is any indication).

The world is sick and tired of the muslims and their religious atrocities, it may happen a lot quicker than you think.

I was really tempted to say the following
"The truth is that the battle against Islamic evil is a battle of evil against Islam"

But that would rely on having an intimate knowledge of both evil and Islam, which i lack.
I have a cursory understanding of Islam, and no understanding of evil

(other than it rarely exists in a pure form-Its like chlorine, toxic alone but usually found compounded with other elements which reduce its toxicity)

The net is a poor indication of global attitudes to anything, unless your analyzing petabytes of information.
It is a wonderful source of confirmation bias however so that's a plus I guess.

Pho there are some interesting surveys of opinions of Muslims from around the world done by the Pew centre. It makes for eye-opening reading.


polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Quote: His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html?rref=us&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&pgtype=article [quote]He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles/story?id=32549315


Quote:

Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre ... On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?

Is it possible that it can be misleading to sift through and find all the perpetrators who have an association with Islam - and in the process ignore other commonalities they may have had with other mass murderers - which may better explain their behaviour?

Put simply, can it be misleading, or even wrong to hold up two (or more) separate atrocities committed by muslims and declare "Islam is the common denominator - therefore Islam to blame"? [/quote]

What is the common denominator for the 100 or so young Aussies currently raping and pillaging their way across the middle east?

small penises?

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 6:18pm:

Pho there are some interesting surveys of opinions of Muslims from around the world done by the Pew centre. It makes for eye-opening reading. polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 12:06pm: Quote: His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html?rref=us&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&pgtype=article [quote]He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS. http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles/story?id=32549315 [quote]Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre ... On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?

Is it possible that it can be misleading to sift through and find all the perpetrators who have an association with Islam - and in the process ignore other commonalities they may have had with other mass murderers - which may better explain their behaviour?

Put simply, can it be misleading, or even wrong to hold up two (or more) separate atrocities committed by muslims and declare "Islam is the common denominator - therefore Islam to blame"? [/quote]

What is the common denominator for the 100 or so young Aussies currently raping and pillaging their way across the middle east?[/quote]


ah.......
They are Human?

They share this trait with all the Murderers, sex offenders and tax evaders currently locked up over here(which greatly exceed the 100 mark). whats your point?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Quote: His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html?rref=us&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&pgtype=article [quote]He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles/story?id=32549315


Quote:

Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre ... On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?

Is it possible that it can be misleading to sift through and find all the perpetrators who have an association with Islam - and in the process ignore other commonalities they may have had with other mass murderers - which may better explain their behaviour?

Put simply, can it be misleading, or even wrong to hold up two (or more) separate atrocities committed by muslims and declare "Islam is the common denominator - therefore Islam to blame"? [/quote]

Put even more simply and more of a novel exercise I am sure.

How about showing some actual stats about how many commit what atrocities and what for. I am sure you will be unpleasantly surprised.

Nice try.