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Message started by Unforgiven on Aug 4th, 2015 at 10:41am

Title: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Unforgiven on Aug 4th, 2015 at 10:41am
This is a total condemnation of the whole political and justice system in the UK.

Former prime minister Sir Edward Heath is now being investigated posthumously.

Prince Andrew is already under a cloud. Who's next in royal-political circus.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/03/ted-heath-police-appeal-victims-come-forward-child-abuse-claims


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Police have launched a public appeal for victims to come forward after allegations emerged of child sexual abuse by the late former prime minister, Sir Edward Heath.

The appeal was made as the police watchdog announced that it was investigating claims that officers dropped a prosecution against a man in the 1990s after he threatened to name Heath as a child abuser.

The Guardian has also learned that detectives have spoken to a man, now middle-aged, who says he was abused as a child by Heath on several occasions.

Wiltshire police made the appeal for “anyone who believes they may have been a victim” of the former Conservative leader to come forward.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 4th, 2015 at 10:56am
Basically, any one who met Jimmy Savile or Rolf Harris is going to be investigated.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by bogarde73 on Aug 4th, 2015 at 11:06am
Or who kissed a baby, or patted a child on the head, or sent a xmas present to a niece or nephew, or who has been fingered by some anonymous twat on Facebook or Twitter.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 4th, 2015 at 11:13am

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 11:06am:
Or who kissed a baby, or patted a child on the head, or sent a xmas present to a niece or nephew, or who has been fingered by some anonymous twat on Facebook or Twitter.


Yeah, those too.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Unforgiven on Aug 4th, 2015 at 11:59am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 11:13am:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 11:06am:
Or who kissed a baby, or patted a child on the head, or sent a xmas present to a niece or nephew, or who has been fingered by some anonymous twat on Facebook or Twitter.


Yeah, those too.


Gizmo is a prime suspect. He does a lot of fingering on Ozpolitic. Gizmo also meets the criteria of anonymous twat.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Unforgiven on Aug 4th, 2015 at 1:00pm
It appears that the UK police routinely protected pedophiles.

The UK establishment is frightened that investigation of pedophilia by the luminaries of the establishment will expose politicians, judiciary, public servants, MI5-MI6 and finger the British private school system as a cradle of pedophilia.

There are already so many dirty hands in the investigation.

What may emerge is the whole fabric of British upper society knew of and tolerated pedophilia.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/police-investigated-over-handling-of-ted-heath-abuse-claims-1.2305629


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Britain’s independent police watchdog has launched a formal inquiry into claims that Wiltshire police did not properly investigate allegations of sexual offences against children involving the former Conservative prime minister Sir Edward Heath.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said the inquiry, linked to a wider investigation into allegations of historical sexual abuse, was triggered by claims made by a retired senior police officer.

It added : “The IPCC is to investigate allegations Wiltshire police didn‘t pursue a prosecution when a person threatened to say Sir Edward Heath may have been involved in offences concerning children.“

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by The Heartless Felon on Aug 4th, 2015 at 1:53pm
He's dead , so he's fair game...

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by bogarde73 on Aug 4th, 2015 at 1:58pm
That's right, and in the meantime the media sleaze can have a ball tracking down his family and making their lives miserable. I mean, everybody wants spouses & children & grandchildren punished for the sins of the dead.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Unforgiven on Aug 4th, 2015 at 2:14pm

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 1:58pm:
That's right, and in the meantime the media sleaze can have a ball tracking down his family and making their lives miserable. I mean, everybody wants spouses & children & grandchildren punished for the sins of the dead.


Is Defective Gizmo on the case?

The plot thickens and the British establishment, and royalty,  is sweating under the light of justice.

Royalty imp


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Amid fears that a host of high-placed figures have been desperate to keep these dark secrets out of the public domain, the survivor in Connecticut has opted to maintain his silence.

“He has declined to sign or revise his statement, claiming a fear of reprisals or repercussions, but we are urging him to reconsider and talk to us about what really happened in the late 1970s and early 1980s,” a Scotland Yard investigator said.

It is understood that the Metropolitan Police have made direct contact with the survivor since the death of Leon Brittan. Officers hope that he will change his mind about giving evidence since circumstances “have now changed dramatically.”

Detectives believe him to be a crucial witness who could blow the lid off the current inquiry into historic sex abuse allegations with names, dates and locations where he was repeatedly raped and sexually abused. The survivor did not respond to requests to speak to The Daily Beast.

Survivors of Elm Guest House and child protection workers have described orgies, rape and obscene video production. Elm Guest House placed advertisements in specialist gay publications in the early 1980s, including a newsletter for the Conservative Group for Homosexual Equality, which boasted: “The facilities include a sauna, solarium and video studio.”

The families of two boys who disappeared fear their deaths were linked to the hotel, which was shut down after a police raid in 1982.

Two years ago, police officers seized from a former official at the now-defunct National Association of Young People in Care a list that purported to name some of the regular visitors. That list, which is in circulation on the Internet but cannot be verified or even dated, contains the names of pop stars, politicians, and members of the royal household.


Cyril Smith was another of the men on the list. One of the teenage boys who worked as a masseur at the Elm Guest House, Lee Towsey, claimed Smith forced him to strip naked and watch him masturbate. Towsey, who was 16 at the time, told the Daily Mail that the hotel manager, Carole Kasir, had boasted to him about the caliber of guests. “She kept their names in a black address book, which she referred to as her insurance policy,” he said.

A much younger boy, under 11 years old, reportedly told police officers in the 1980s that he was regularly abused at the guest house. According to a social worker who said he was present for an interview at Richmond police station, the boy reportedly said one of his abusers was a man known as “Uncle Leon” who worked at “the big house.”

The social worker said he later saw an official police copy of the child’s statement and mention of Uncle Leon and the big house had been removed.

The father of another boy has claimed the police seemed willing to cover up more alarming details that could have implicated the Elm Guest House. Vishambar Mehrotra, a lawyer, told the Daily Telegraph that police had refused to investigate a call that could have helped locate his son, Vishal, who was last seen at the age of 8 on the day of Charles and Diana’s royal wedding in 1981.

In the months after his boy disappeared within a mile of the hotel, Mehrotra received a call from a male prostitute. “He believed Vishal may have been taken by pedophiles in the Elm Guest House,” he said. “I recorded the whole 15-minute conversation and took it to police. But instead of investigating it, they just pooh-poohed it and I never heard anything about the tape again.”

Part of Vishal’s badly disfigured body was found in woodland the following year.

As the tangle of interconnected police inquiries at Scotland Yard continues to investigate historic child abuse allegations, some of the men involved are finally being brought to justice.

Tony McSweeney, a Catholic priest, was found guilty last month of sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy in a care home in Richmond called Grafton Close. He had been due to stand trial alongside his friend John Stingemore, who ran Grafton Close, and was said to be the ringleader.

Stingemore died before the trial started but one of the rapes he is accused of was said to have taken place at the Elm Guest House. Stingemore and McSweeney were arrested by Operation Fernbridge officers who were probing allegations that vulnerable boys were regularly sent from the Grafton children’s home to be abused at Elm Guest House.

One of those boys was Peter Hatton-Bornshin, who was taken into care in 1980 when his mother died. After struggling to come to terms with being subjected to abuse as a teenager, he reportedly took his own life in 1994.

Carole Kasir and her husband, Haroon, were convicted of “keeping a disorderly house”—or running a brothel. She died of an insulin overdose in 1990. A coroner ruled that it was a suicide despite the protestations of some of her friends at the inquest. Scotland Yard is re-examining circumstances of her death.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Unforgiven on Aug 4th, 2015 at 3:46pm
76 British politicians are implicated. This may be the tip of the iceberg.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/04/world/europe/britain-edward-heath-sex-abuse-claims.html?_r=0


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The British police said in May that they had received accusations of past child sexual abuse against at least 261 public figures, including 76 politicians, as well as clergy members and entertainers.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Brendon on Aug 4th, 2015 at 10:18pm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/esp_icke108.htm

Heath used to abuse them on his yacht then kill them. Yuk. Evil creeps.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Unforgiven on Aug 5th, 2015 at 12:48am

Brendon wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 10:18pm:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/esp_icke108.htm

Heath used to abuse them on his yacht then kill them. Yuk. Evil creeps.


It is possible to speculate that pedophilia was so endemic in the establishment that it created a huge security risk from blackmail by foreign powers and that to counter this the establishment set up processes to protect all pedophiles to give the pedophiles in power the confidence they would not be exposed or prosecuted.

This would have required involvement of the highest level at least up to the Prime Minister and possibly even the royal family if Lord Mountbatten was also a pedophile.

The effect of the non-prosecution of pedophiles is that collateral damage can be prevented if a pedophile remote from the establishment high fliers is caught and if he can be prevented from naming others by immunity from prosecution. This prevents a trail from pedophiles to other pedophiles.

The whole UK establishment system, including the government, police, judiciary, MI-5/MI-6, military and public service is implicated and is corrupt beyond redemption.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Dame Pansi on Aug 5th, 2015 at 7:12am

The whole UK establishment system, including the government, police, judiciary, MI-5/MI-6, military and public service is implicated and is corrupt beyond redemption.

I believe this to be the case.

Master Light said people in high places will be exposed......and it has come to pass.

And so be it.

It is as it is.

Will the whole deck collapse eventually?

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 5th, 2015 at 7:20am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 5th, 2015 at 7:12am:
The whole UK establishment system, including the government, police, judiciary, MI-5/MI-6, military and public service is implicated and is corrupt beyond redemption.

I believe this to be the case.

Master Light said people in high places will be exposed......and it has come to pass.

And so be it.

It is as it is.

Will the whole deck collapse eventually?



master Light has been proven correct all along.

namaste

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by athos on Aug 5th, 2015 at 10:30am
Interestingly how British have always 'loved' children in their special way.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Unforgiven on Aug 5th, 2015 at 11:21am

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 5th, 2015 at 12:48am:

Brendon wrote on Aug 4th, 2015 at 10:18pm:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/esp_icke108.htm

Heath used to abuse them on his yacht then kill them. Yuk. Evil creeps.


It is possible to speculate that pedophilia was so endemic in the establishment that it created a huge security risk from blackmail by foreign powers and that to counter this the establishment set up processes to protect all pedophiles to give the pedophiles in power the confidence they would not be exposed or prosecuted.

This would have required involvement of the highest level at least up to the Prime Minister and possibly even the royal family if Lord Mountbatten was also a pedophile.

The effect of the non-prosecution of pedophiles is that collateral damage can be prevented if a pedophile remote from the establishment high fliers is caught and if he can be prevented from naming others by immunity from prosecution. This prevents a trail from pedophiles to other pedophiles.

The whole UK establishment system, including the government, police, judiciary, MI-5/MI-6, military and public service is implicated and is corrupt beyond redemption.


Exactly as I have speculated above. A brothel owner received immunity when her prosecution would expose Edward Heath.

You can bet the sticky fingers of the Worshipful Masters of Freemasonry is implicated in UK establishment corruption.

The UK justice system is so corrupt it is beyond redemption.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-who-threatened-expose-sir-6194995


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A woman who threatened to expose Sir Edward Heath as a paedophile was tonight reported to be a brothel madame who ran a vice den just a mile from the ex- Prime Minister’s home.

Filipino Myra Ling-Ling Forde, 67 is alleged to have had a prosecution against her dropped in the 1990s after making her threat to police.

A retired senior detective from the Wiltshire force claims colleagues quietly dropped a trial against Forde in to avoid a probe into the Tory leader and protect his reputation.

The allegation is now the subject of an Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) investigation.

The Daily Telegraph reported tonight that Forde has twice been jailed for operating as a madame out of her terraced property in Salisbury where Heath lived after leaving office.

Despite apparently avoiding prosecution in the 1990s, she was convicted of running a brothel full of underage girls from the property in 1995.

During her trial, Winchester Crown Court, heard she trained runaway children as call girls and often picked up youngsters who were in the care system.

After getting out of prison, she was once again arrested on suspicion of running a brothel and pleaded guilty to inciting prostitution and perverting the course of justice in 2009. She was sentenced to five years in prison.

GettyFormer Prime Minister Edward HeathAllegations of child abuse against former Prime Minister Edward Heath are being investigated by five police forces
Speaking from her home in London today Forde’s sister, Mia Pablico, said she did not know where she was now living, but said she “knew a lot of politicians”.

Asked if she ever mentioned the name Ted Heath, she said: “That’s not for me to say. You’d have to ask her.”

She added: “I know what she did in Salisbury and she knew a lot of politicians and celebrities because of it.”

It is understood Forde moved out of her home in Kilburn a couple of weeks ago.

Title: Re: British Prime Ministers now accused of Pedophilia
Post by Unforgiven on Aug 5th, 2015 at 1:21pm
What a sensation. British Prime Minister murdering boys.

The Ted Heath case has now blown out to full blown accusations of murder.

What's more, the police are involved in the coverups.

It is so fantastic. Reality is stranger than fiction.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-05/sir-edward-heath-child-sex-allegations/6673442


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A British journalist is one of those who has made further extraordinary claims against Sir Edward.

Journalist Don Hale said 30 years ago he was handed a dossier on an alleged Westminster paedophile ring, and shortly after his office was raided by police.

Mr Hale said among the allegations against Sir Edward concerned the whereabouts of boys from care homes who went yachting with the politician.

"He was basically recruiting boys from Jersey to go on adventure sailing trips with him at weekends on his boat Morning Cloud and there was all sorts of allegations against him in terms of what may have happened to these boys taken from care homes in Jersey," he said.

"There were claims that some of these boys didn't come back."

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