Ex-CIA boss admits to BBC Panorama that it tortured...   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Ex-CIA boss admits to BBC Panorama that it tortured...   ::)

Wow they tortured as opposed to muslim's beheading people and covering them in gasoline and burning them in cages. Not to mention cutting babies and children in half in front of their parents.

Hmmm

You're not supposed to say that, Brain. You're meant to complain about the Muselman slitting throats and throwing the hommers out of buildings.

The CIA defends our Freeeeeeeedom.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 6:49pm: Ex-CIA boss admits to BBC Panorama that it tortured...   ::) Wow they tortured as opposed to muslim's beheading people and covering them in gasoline and burning them in cages. Not to mention cutting babies and children in half in front of their parents. Hmmm

Whoops. I spoke too soon.

Karnal wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:11pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 6:49pm: Ex-CIA boss admits to BBC Panorama that it tortured...   ::) Wow they tortured as opposed to muslim's beheading people and covering them in gasoline and burning them in cages. Not to mention cutting babies and children in half in front of their parents. Hmmm Whoops. I spoke too soon.

I assume that you mean that you posted too soon.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:11pm: LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 6:49pm: Ex-CIA boss admits to BBC Panorama that it tortured...   ::) Wow they tortured as opposed to muslim's beheading people and covering them in gasoline and burning them in cages. Not to mention cutting babies and children in half in front of their parents. Hmmm Whoops. I spoke too soon. I assume that you mean that you posted too soon.

You beat me to it, Matty.

Not that it's a race or anything. We're all friends here, no?

Karnal wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:10pm:

You're not supposed to say that, Brain. You're meant to complain about the Muselman slitting throats and throwing the hommers out of buildings. The CIA defends our Freeeeeeeedom.

Very true since the muslims commit more atrocities of actually killing. At least the CIA is getting information from these murderers so they can stop future islamic genocide of the free world.

Karnal wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:14pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:12pm: Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:11pm: LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 6:49pm: Ex-CIA boss admits to BBC Panorama that it tortured...   ::) Wow they tortured as opposed to muslim's beheading people and covering them in gasoline and burning them in cages. Not to mention cutting babies and children in half in front of their parents. Hmmm Whoops. I spoke too soon. I assume that you mean that you posted too soon. You beat me to it, Matty. Not that it's a race or anything. We're all friends here, no?

I beat you to what Pho. You seem upset you are calling me matty again. Do you have another line perhaps ?

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:10pm: You're not supposed to say that, Brain. You're meant to complain about the Muselman slitting throats and throwing the hommers out of buildings. The CIA defends our Freeeeeeeedom. Very true since the muslims commit more atrocities of actually killing. At least the CIA is getting information from these murderers so they can stop future islamic genocide of the free world.

They must of done well because ISIS developed post 911.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Ex-CIA boss admits to BBC Panorama that it tortured...   ::)

what you expect from leading terrorist nation.

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Convention against Torture and Other Cruel,                  Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment      The General Assembly,      Recalling the Declaration on the Protection of All Persons from Being Subjected to Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, adopted by the General Assembly in its resolution 3452 (XXX) of 9 December 1975,      Recalling also its resolution 32/62 of 8 December 1977, in which it requested the Commission on Human Rights to draw up a draft convention against torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, in the light of the principles embodied in the Declaration,      Recalling further that, in its resolution 38/119 of 16 December 1983, it requested the Commission on Human Rights to complete, at its fortieth session, as a matter of highest priority, the drafting of such a convention, with a view to submitting a draft, including provisions for the effective implementation of the future convention, to the General Assembly at its thirty-ninth session,      Noting with satisfaction Commission on Human Rights resolution 1984/21 of 6 March 1984,by which the Commission decided to transmit the text of a draft convention against torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, contained in the annex to the report of the Working Group, to the General Assembly for its consideration,      Desirous of achieving a more effective implementation of the existing prohibition under international and national law of the practice of torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment,      1.   Expresses its appreciation for the work achieved by the Commission on Human Rights in preparing the text of a draft convention against torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment;      2.   Adopts and opens for signature, ratification and accession the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment contained in the annex to the present resolution;      3.   Calls upon all Governments to consider signing and ratifying the Convention as a matter of priority.                                     ANNEX             Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or                       Degrading Treatment or Punishment      The States Parties to this Convention,      Considering that, in accordance with the principles proclaimed in the Charter of the United Nations, recognition of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,      Recognizing that those rights derive from the inherent dignity of the human person,      Considering the obligation of States under the Charter, in particular Article 55, to promote universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms,      Having regard to article 5 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and article 7 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, both of which provide that no one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment,      Having regard also to the Declaration on the Protection of All Persons from Being Subjected to Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, adopted by the General Assembly on 9 December 1975,      Desiring to make more effective the struggle against torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment throughout the world,      Have agreed as follows:                                     PART I                                   Article 1      1.   For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.  It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.      2.   This article is without prejudice to any international instrument or national legislation which does or may contain provisions of wider application.                                   Article 2      1.   Each State Party shall take effective legislative, administrative, judicial or other measures to prevent acts of torture in any territory under its jurisdiction.      2.   No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.      3.   An order from a superior officer or a public authority may not be invoked as a justification of torture.

                               

wally1 wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:16pm: Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 7:10pm: You're not supposed to say that, Brain. You're meant to complain about the Muselman slitting throats and throwing the hommers out of buildings. The CIA defends our Freeeeeeeedom. Very true since the muslims commit more atrocities of actually killing. At least the CIA is getting information from these murderers so they can stop future islamic genocide of the free world. They must of done well because ISIS developed post 911.

Who mentioned ISIS ?

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Article 3      1.   No State Party shall expel, return ("refouler") or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture.      2.   For the purpose of determining whether there are such grounds, the competent authorities shall take into account all relevant considerations including, where applicable, the existence in the State concerned of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human rights.                                   Article 4      1.   Each State Party shall ensure that all acts of torture are offences under its criminal law.  The same shall apply to an attempt to commit torture and to an act by any person which constitutes complicity or participation in torture.      2.   Each State Party shall make these offences punishable by appropriate penalties which take into account their grave nature.                                   Article 5      1.   Each State Party shall take such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over the offences referred to in article 4 in the following cases:      (a)  When the offences are committed in any territory under its jurisdiction or on board a ship or aircraft registered in that State;      (b)  When the alleged offender is a national of that State;      (c)  When the victim is a national of that State if that State considers it appropriate.      2.   Each State Party shall likewise take such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over such offences in cases where the alleged offender is present in any territory under its jurisdiction and it does not extradite him pursuant to article 8 to any of the States mentioned in paragraph 1 of this article.      3.   This Convention does not exclude any criminal jurisdiction exercised in accordance with internal law.                                   Article 6      1.   Upon being satisfied, after an examination of information available to it, that the circumstances so warrant, any State Party in whose territory a person alleged to have committed any offence referred to in article 4 is present shall take him into custody or take other legal measures to ensure his presence.  The custody and other legal measures shall be as provided in the law of that State but may be continued only for such time as is necessary to enable any criminal or extradition proceedings to be instituted.      2.   Such State shall immediately make a preliminary inquiry into the facts.      3.   Any person in custody pursuant to paragraph 1 of this article shall be assisted in communicating immediately with the nearest appropriate representative of the State of which he is a national, or, if he is a stateless person, with the representative of the State where he usually resides.      4.   When a State, pursuant to this article, has taken a person into custody, it shall immediately notify the States referred to in article 5, paragraph 1, of the fact that such person is in custody and of the circumstances which warrant his detention.  The State which makes the preliminary inquiry contemplated in paragraph 2 of this article shall promptly report its findings to the said States and shall indicate whether it intends to exercise jurisdiction.                                   Article 7      1.   The State Party in the territory under whose jurisdiction a person alleged to have committed any offence referred to in article 4 is found shall in the cases contemplated in article 5, if it does not extradite him, submit the case to its competent authorities for the purpose of prosecution.      2.   These authorities shall take their decision in the same manner as in the case of any ordinary offence of a serious nature under the law of that State.  In the cases referred to in article 5, paragraph 2, the standards of evidence required for prosecution and conviction shall in no way be less stringent than those which apply in the cases referred to in article 5, paragraph 1.      3.   Any person regarding whom proceedings are brought in connection with any of the offences referred to in article 4 shall be guaranteed fair treatment at all stages of the proceedings.                                   Article 8      1.   The offences referred to in article 4 shall be deemed to be included as extraditable offences in any extradition treaty existing between States Parties.  States Parties undertake to include such offences as extraditable offences in every extradition treaty to be concluded between them.      2.   If a State Party which makes extradition conditional on the existence of a treaty receives a request for extradition from another State Party with which it has no extradition treaty, it may consider this Convention as the legal basis for extradition in respect of such offences.  Extradition shall be subject to the other conditions provided by the law of the requested State.      3.   States Parties which do not make extradition conditional on the existence of a treaty shall recognize such offences as extraditable offences between themselves subject to the conditions provided by the law of the requested State.

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4.   Such offences shall be treated, for the purpose of extradition between States Parties, as if they had been committed not only in the place in which they occurred but also in the territories of the States required to establish their jurisdiction in accordance with article 5, paragraph 1.                                   Article 9      1.   States Parties shall afford one another the greatest measure of assistance in connection with criminal proceedings brought in respect of any of the offences referred to in article 4, including the supply of all evidence at their disposal necessary for the proceedings.      2.   States Parties shall carry out their obligations under paragraph 1 of this article in conformity with any treaties on mutual judicial assistance that may exist between them.                                   Article 10      1.   Each State Party shall ensure that education and information regarding the prohibition against torture are fully included in the training of law enforcement personnel, civil or military, medical personnel, public officials and other persons who may be involved in the custody, interrogation or treatment of any individual subjected to any form of arrest, detention or imprisonment.      2.   Each State Party shall include this prohibition in the rules or instructions issued in regard to the duties and functions of any such persons.                                   Article 11      Each State Party shall keep under systematic review interrogation rules, instructions, methods and practices as well as arrangements for the custody and treatment of persons subjected to any form of arrest, detention or imprisonment in any territory under its jurisdiction, with a view to preventing any cases of torture.                                   Article 12      Each State Party shall ensure that its competent authorities proceed to a prompt and impartial investigation, wherever there is reasonable ground to believe that an act of torture has been committed in any territory under its jurisdiction.                                   Article 13      Each State Party shall ensure that any individual who alleges he has been subjected to torture in any territory under its jurisdiction has the right to complain to, and to have his case promptly and impartially examined by, its competent authorities.  Steps shall be taken to ensure that the complainant and witnesses are protected against all ill-treatment or intimidation as a consequence of his complaint or any evidence given.                                   Article 14      1.   Each State Party shall ensure in its legal system that the victim of an act of torture obtains redress and has an enforceable right to fair and adequate compensation, including the means for as full rehabilitation as possible.  In the event of the death of the victim as a result of an act of torture, his dependants shall be entitled to compensation.      2.   Nothing in this article shall affect any right of the victim or other persons to compensation which may exist under national law.                                   Article 15      Each State Party shall ensure that any statement which is established to have been made as a result of torture shall not be invoked as evidence in any proceedings, except against a person accused of torture as evidence that the statement was made.                                   Article 16      1.   Each State Party shall undertake to prevent in any territory under its jurisdiction other acts of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment which do not amount to torture as defined in article 1, when such acts are committed by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.  In particular, the obligations contained in articles 10, 11, 12 and 13 shall apply with the substitution for references to torture of references to other forms of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.      2.   The provisions of this Convention are without prejudice to the provisions of any other international instrument or national law which prohibits cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment or which relates to extradition or expulsion.                                    PART II                                   Article 17      1.   There shall be established a Committee against Torture (hereinafter referred to as the Committee) which shall carry out the functions hereinafter provided.  The Committee shall consist of ten experts of high moral standing and recognized competence in the field of human rights, who shall serve in their personal capacity.  The experts shall be elected by the States Parties, consideration being given to equitable geographical distribution and to the usefulness of the participation of some persons having legal experience.      2.   The members of the Committee shall be elected by secret ballot from a list of persons nominated by States Parties.  Each State Party may nominate one person from among its own nationals.  States Parties shall bear in mind the usefulness of nominating persons who are also members of the Human Rights Committee established under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and who are willing to serve on the Committee against Torture.

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Article 24      The Committee shall submit an annual report on its activities under this Convention to the States Parties and to the General Assembly of the United Nations.                                    PART III                                   Article 25      1.   This Convention is open for signature by all States.      2.   This Convention is subject to ratification.  Instruments of ratification shall be deposited with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.                                   Article 26      This Convention is open to accession by all States.  Accession shall be effected by the deposit of an instrument of accession with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.                                   Article 27      1.   This Convention shall enter into force on the thirtieth day after the date of the deposit with the Secretary-General of the United Nations of the twentieth instrument of ratification or accession.      2.   For each State ratifying this Convention or acceding to it after the deposit of the twentieth instrument of ratification or accession, the Convention shall enter into force on the thirtieth day after the date of the deposit of its own instrument of ratification or accession.                                   Article 28      1.   Each State may, at the time of signature or ratification of this Convention or accession thereto, declare that it does not recognize the competence of the Committee provided for in article 20.      2.   Any State Party having made a reservation in accordance with paragraph 1 of this article may, at any time, withdraw this reservation by notification to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.                                   Article 29      1.   Any State Party to this Convention may propose an amendment and file it with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.  The Secretary-General shall thereupon communicate the proposed amendment to the States Parties with a request that they notify him whether they favour a conference of States Parties for the purpose of considering and voting upon the proposal.  In the event that within four months from the date of such communication at least one third of the States Parties favours such a conference, the Secretary-General shall convene the conference under the auspices of the United Nations.  Any amendment adopted by a majority of the States Parties present and voting at the conference shall be submitted by the Secretary-General to all the States Parties for acceptance.      2.   An amendment adopted in accordance with paragraph 1 of this article shall enter into force when two thirds of the States Parties to this Convention have notified the Secretary-General of the United Nations that they have accepted it in accordance with their respective constitutional processes.      3.   When amendments enter into force, they shall be binding on those States Parties which have accepted them, other States Parties still being bound by the provisions of this Convention and any earlier amendments which they have accepted.                                   Article 30      1.   Any dispute between two or more States Parties concerning the interpretation or application of this Convention which cannot be settled through negotiation shall, at the request of one of them, be submitted to arbitration.  If within six months from the date of the request for arbitration the Parties are unable to agree on the organization of the arbitration, any one of those Parties may refer the dispute to the International Court of Justice by request in conformity with the Statute of the Court.      2.   Each State may, at the time of signature or ratification of this Convention or accession thereto, declare that it does not consider itself bound by paragraph 1 of this article.  The other States Parties shall not be bound by paragraph 1 of this article with respect to any State Party having made such a reservation.      3.   Any State Party having made a reservation in accordance with paragraph 2 of this article may at any time withdraw this reservation by notification to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.                                   Article 31      1.   A State Party may denounce this Convention by written notification to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.  Denunciation becomes effective one year after the date of receipt of the notification by the Secretary-General.      2.   Such a denunciation shall not have the effect of releasing the State Party from its obligations under this Convention in regard to any act or omission which occurs prior to the date at which the denunciation becomes effective, nor shall denunciation prejudice in any way the continued consideration of any matter which is already under consideration by the Committee prior to the date at which the denunciation becomes effective.      3.   Following the date at which the denunciation of a State Party becomes effective, the Committee shall not commence consideration of any new matter regarding that State.

wally1 wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 8th, 2015 at 6:49pm: Ex-CIA boss admits to BBC Panorama that it tortured...   ::) what you expect from leading terrorist nation.

Compared to the leading terrorist religion islam.US responding to islam is hardly terrorism. Unfortunately islam wins hands down in the terrorism department and are by far the worlds leading terrorists. Everyone knows that. Why do you think so many muslims and islammic apologists are all bent out of shape. They don't have a leg to stand on. Maybe they will cut down on cutting babies and children in half in front of there parents before killing them to increase PR.

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Article 32      The Secretary-General of the United Nations shall inform all States Members of the United Nations and all States which have signed this Convention or acceded to it of the following:      (a)  Signatures, ratifications and accessions under articles 25 and 26;      (b)  The date of entry into force of this Convention under article 27 and the date of the entry into force of any amendments under article 29;      (c)  Denunciations under article 31.                                   Article 33      1.   This Convention, of which the Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish texts are equally authentic, shall be deposited with the Secretary- General of the United Nations.      2.   The Secretary-General of the United Nations shall transmit certified copies of this Convention to all States.

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The United States signed the Convention on 18 April 1988 and ratified it on 21 October 1994.

When will the USA undertake it's obligations under this Convention to prosecute the perpetrators of this Torture?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

[quote]                                   Article 24      The Committee shall submit an annual report on its activities under this Convention to the States Parties and to the General Assembly of the United Nations.                                    PART III                                   Article 25      1.   This Convention is open for signature by all States.      2.   This Convention is subject to ratification.  Instruments of ratification shall be deposited with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.                                   Article 26      This Convention is open to accession by all States.  Accession shall be effected by the deposit of an instrument of accession with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.                                   Article 27      1.   This Convention shall enter into force on the thirtieth day after the date of the deposit with the Secretary-General of the United Nations of the twentieth instrument of ratification or accession.      2.   For each State ratifying this Convention or acceding to it after the deposit of the twentieth instrument of ratification or accession, the Convention shall enter into force on the thirtieth day after the date of the deposit of its own instrument of ratification or accession.                                   Article 28      1.   Each State may, at the time of signature or ratification of this Convention or accession thereto, declare that it does not recognize the competence of the Committee provided for in article 20.      2.   Any State Party having made a reservation in accordance with paragraph 1 of this article may, at any time, withdraw this reservation by notification to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.                                   Article 29      1.   Any State Party to this Convention may propose an amendment and file it with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.  The Secretary-General shall thereupon communicate the proposed amendment to the States Parties with a request that they notify him whether they favour a conference of States Parties for the purpose of considering and voting upon the proposal.  In the event that within four months from the date of such communication at least one third of the States Parties favours such a conference, the Secretary-General shall convene the conference under the auspices of the United Nations.  Any amendment adopted by a majority of the States Parties present and voting at the conference shall be submitted by the Secretary-General to all the States Parties for acceptance.      2.   An amendment adopted in accordance with paragraph 1 of this article shall enter into force when two thirds of the States Parties to this Convention have notified the Secretary-General of the United Nations that they have accepted it in accordance with their respective constitutional processes.      3.   When amendments enter into force, they shall be binding on those States Parties which have accepted them, other States Parties still being bound by the provisions of this Convention and any earlier amendments which they have accepted.                                   Article 30      1.   Any dispute between two or more States Parties concerning the interpretation or application of this Convention which cannot be settled through negotiation shall, at the request of one of them, be submitted to arbitration.  If within six months from the date of the request for arbitration the Parties are unable to agree on the organization of the arbitration, any one of those Parties may refer the dispute to the International Court of Justice by request in conformity with the Statute of the Court.      2.   Each State may, at the time of signature or ratification of this Convention or accession thereto, declare that it does not consider itself bound by paragraph 1 of this article.  The other States Parties shall not be bound by paragraph 1 of this article with respect to any State Party having made such a reservation.

Classic it doesn't mean what it says.

Nothing worse than spamming cut and paste for attention is there brain.