It's 107,000 for Europe in July.
It's 20,000 last week alone for Greece.

Next stop Australia if Labor gets the chance to fling the gates open again.

Watch this space . . .more to come, ie that's from Africa & Mid East

Yep!......all those white genes getting ever darker.

What will the Aussie child look like in a couple of generations?

It must have been a pipe dream to think we could remain white for ever.

Another leftist success story  ;D , I was going to say the left here should all move to Europe and enjoy but the whole idea is to sh!t in your own nest not move into one thats already dirty, that is what the left are all about.   :D

The hard right are repulsed by the potential of human capital.
No wonder they are shite at business and economics.

The left are afraid to say they will keep the coming hordes out, because that would upset many in their base.
And they are afraid to say that they would let them in, because that would upset a lot of middle Australia.

This is where they are vulnerable. This is where to stick the knife in Tony and work it around.

The hordes are coming.

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

The left are afraid to say they will keep the coming hordes out, because that would upset many in their base. And they are afraid to say that they would let them in, because that would upset a lot of middle Australia. This is where they are vulnerable. This is where to stick the knife in Tony and work it around. The hordes are coming.

It's all up to the leftards, open up  the border and they'll get voted out again.

Thank goodness the boats have stopped. That extra 1% of illegal immigrants could have really tipped the scales.

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 8:06am:

It's 107,000 for Europe in July. It's 20,000 last week alone for Greece. Next stop Australia if Labor gets the chance to fling the gates open again.

An Excellent Editorial again, Bogarde.

They tell us it's RACIST to want to stop any further immigration. It means we're xenophobic, Islamophobic, White Supremacists, Insular, and anti-Minority Ghettoes if we speak out against any further immigration.

Raven wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

Thank goodness the boats have stopped. That extra 1% of illegal immigrants could have really tipped the scales.

In terms of Unemployment, Crime, the DSP, rape statistics, extra membership for our beloved Muslim Community - you might be right there.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

Raven wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 3:08pm: Thank goodness the boats have stopped. That extra 1% of illegal immigrants could have really tipped the scales. In terms of Unemployment, Crime, the DSP, rape statistics, extra membership for our beloved Muslim Community - you might be right there.

Pointing facts like that out to the idiot left just makes them even more determined to bring them in.

The fleet is being got ready on Java as we speak.

If the number continue to increase at this rate, Europeans, not their governments, will be forced to take matters into their own hands, which will almost certainly get ugly. Its human nature.

innocentbystander. wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 3:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 3:18pm: Raven wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 3:08pm: Thank goodness the boats have stopped. That extra 1% of illegal immigrants could have really tipped the scales. In terms of Unemployment, Crime, the DSP, rape statistics, extra membership for our beloved Muslim Community - you might be right there. Pointing facts like that out to the idiot left just makes them even more determined to bring them in.

The Left have always hated the conservative Establishment for being authoritarian, anti-legalisation of buggery, anti-foreign invasion of people dissimilar in appearance and culture to the locals, anti-'progressive' wankery, pro-nationalist patriotic, pro-protecting and preserving of the Home Society ...

... etc with a hell of a lot more.

As of today large numbers of Syrians are trying to force their way into Macedonia, and another bloody Muslim has gone berserk on a high speed train in France. Wake up people.

It's the end of the Roman Empire all over again. The laws of nature in operation.
An aging  tired civilisation about to be overrun  by a more desperate population.
Of course they could always find the courage to use their superiority in weapons, something the Romans lacked.

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:53am:

It's the end of the Roman Empire all over again. The laws of nature in operation. An aging  tired civilisation about to be overrun  by a more desperate population. Of course they could always find the courage to use their superiority in weapons, something the Romans lacked.

It has nothing to do with "law of nature", it has more to do with Anglo colonialism and Jewish Wall Street greed.

athos wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 10:27am:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2015 at 7:53am: It's the end of the Roman Empire all over again. The laws of nature in operation. An aging  tired civilisation about to be overrun  by a more desperate population. Of course they could always find the courage to use their superiority in weapons, something the Romans lacked. It has nothing to do with "law of nature", it has more to do with Anglo colonialism and Jewish Wall Street greed.

Did an anglo screw your wife? You seem to be racist against anglos.

athos wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 10:27am:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2015 at 7:53am: It's the end of the Roman Empire all over again. The laws of nature in operation. An aging  tired civilisation about to be overrun  by a more desperate population. Of course they could always find the courage to use their superiority in weapons, something the Romans lacked. It has nothing to do with "law of nature", it has more to do with Anglo colonialism and Jewish Wall Street greed.

Anglo Colonialism? Where have you been for the last fifty years? They wanted to be independent, but were taken advantage of by their own post colonial leaders. Now they want to run crying back to mother.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 3:14pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 8:06am: It's 107,000 for Europe in July. It's 20,000 last week alone for Greece. Next stop Australia if Labor gets the chance to fling the gates open again. An Excellent Editorial again, Bogarde. They tell us it's RACIST to want to stop any further immigration. It means we're xenophobic, Islamophobic, White Supremacists, Insular, and anti-Minority Ghettoes if we speak out against any further immigration.

Hang on, Herbie, you are racist, insular and a white supremacist. You fully acknowledge this.

Not going all PC on us, are you?

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:53am:

It's the end of the Roman Empire all over again. The laws of nature in operation. An aging  tired civilisation about to be overrun  by a more desperate population. Of course they could always find the courage to use their superiority in weapons, something the Romans lacked.

Are you referring to the plane arrivals, Bogie? The latest asylum seekers are coming from China and Vietnam - on tourist visas.

I'm referring to the invasion across the Med and through the Balkans.
Ours is in the pending tray.

Karnal wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Hang on, Herbie, you are racist, insular and a white supremacist. You fully acknowledge this. Not going all PC on us, are you?

Good lord, no. And yes, I am an avowed racist but only from an immigrant demographic perspective.

How would the moronic British 'voting-public' have voted all those years going back to Enoch Powell if they had known that today their capital city is demographically a black-majority 35-by-35 mile immigrant ghetto - and yes, it's had a Blacks on the Rampage looting riot equal to that of the US's Watt's Riots?

Preserving ones generational homeland starts with the voting public. I personally would make bloody certain that no Britisher would be allowed to migrate here who had voted for a party that had in its electoral platform the promise of bringing in yet more tens-of-thousands of incompatible migrants to Britain.

I'm not a white supremacist - never have been, but I understand your need to scrape the barrel for hyperboles.

(A hyperbole is an extreme exaggeration used to make a point. It is like the opposite of “understatement.” It is from a Greek word meaning “excess.” Hyperboles can be found in literature and oral communication).

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 1:52pm:

I'm referring to the invasion across the Med and through the Balkans. Ours is in the pending tray.

Labor is waiting in the wings to yet once again swamp our suburbs with more Muslim hordes and coloured folk.

double plus good wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 11:25am:

athos wrote on Aug 22nd, 2015 at 10:27am: bogarde73 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2015 at 7:53am: It's the end of the Roman Empire all over again. The laws of nature in operation. An aging  tired civilisation about to be overrun  by a more desperate population. Of course they could always find the courage to use their superiority in weapons, something the Romans lacked. It has nothing to do with "law of nature", it has more to do with Anglo colonialism and Jewish Wall Street greed. Did an anglo screw your wife? You seem to be racist against anglos.

Anyway majority of Anglos are now are homosexuals so I don't worry about my wife. Consequently there is more probability that they raped you when you were in primary school.
There is a saying: "What ever you do comes back to you" (That is a universe's law).
Very simple all those who were conquered by British and European empires are now coming to conquer Britain and Europe.

issuevoter wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2015 at 7:37am:

As of today large numbers of Syrians are trying to force their way into Macedonia, and another bloody Muslim has gone berserk on a high speed train in France. Wake up people.

You know the Greens are going to read about this and then become even more determined to start the boats up again.  :D

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 3:14pm:

It means we're xenophobic, Islamophobic, White Supremacists, Insular, and anti-Minority Ghettoes if we speak out against any further immigration.

To be fair, you are xenophobic, Islamophobic, White Supremacist, Insular, and anti-Minority Ghettoes.

Aren't you?

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 21^st, 2015 at 7:30am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 3:36pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 3:18pm: Raven wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 3:08pm: Thank goodness the boats have stopped. That extra 1% of illegal immigrants could have really tipped the scales. In terms of Unemployment, Crime, the DSP, rape statistics, extra membership for our beloved Muslim Community - you might be right there. Pointing facts like that out to the idiot left just makes them even more determined to bring them in. The Left have always hated the conservative Establishment for being authoritarian, anti-legalisation of buggery, anti-foreign invasion of people dissimilar in appearance and culture to the locals, anti-'progressive' wankery, pro-nationalist patriotic, pro-protecting and preserving of the Home Society ... ... etc with a hell of a lot more.

That's why both sides sell us down the river into the penury of FTAs that benefit us not...

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2015 at 10:23pm:

That's why both sides sell us down the river into the penury of FTAs that benefit us not...

I don't actually remember when it was that the International Socialist Left began their concerted program of openly demonising the preservation of Western homelands for the locals, and the notion that having discriminatory immigration policy was a moral abomination.

I suspect it began in the mid-50s both here and in Britain where the universities began churning out covert Marxists who didn't really think of themselves as Marxists for this being a little too vulgar and obvious, but preferred to think of themselves as 'decent' people with 'a heart' for those less fortunate than themselves - ie the entire Third World, especially those who are most alien in colour and culture to generational Westerners.

And so the universities bred a whole generation of lawyers, literary figures, journalists, political commentators, television identities, radio 'personalities', politicians, doctors' wives, and sundry basket-weavers who genuinely believed that giving away their centuries-old generational Homeland country was the only way to redeem themselves from any accusations of being 'racist, greedy capitalist pigs' with a White Supremacist Complex.

And boy, didn't they succeed beyond even their own wildest dreams.

Who in public life today dares to suggest that perhaps in the interest of our future generations it might be a good time to turn off the tap to Muslim and Negro immigration? Such is the political and moral funk, I can't think of even one beside Rev. Fred Nile of the NSW Upper House.

Vichy Westerners like Gregg, karnel, and John Smith, et al are symptomatic of the Cult of National Patricide that has grown up over the past few decades against ones own cultural inheritance, race, and historical national identity.

In my day these people were called Conscientious Objectors to taking up arms against foreigners who were actively and militarily in the process of trying to take over their generational homelands. They preferred to allow their own country to be invaded and settled whilst themselves posing as models of moral virtue - very much as we witness here with Gregg, karnel, and John Smith, et al.

Theirs is the same moral vanity as those of yesteryear who preened themselves as saintly for not being willing to defend their national turf with the use of guns against an armed invasion.

Vichy Australians helping to keep the drawbridge down for yet more years of invasion by people whose default religious imperative is to hate our guts for denying their god any currency in our national life. 

Well written herb. Quite brilliant in fact. It's sadly true that it's only we older few, uncontaminated by the bilge mentality imposed on the young, who are able to see the dangers they face now.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 6:12am:

Who in public life today dares to suggest that perhaps in the interest of our future generations it might be a good time to turn off the tap to Muslim and Negro immigration?

Donald Trump?

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 8:09am:

Well written herb. Quite brilliant in fact. It's sadly true that it's only we older few, uncontaminated by the bilge mentality imposed on the young, who are able to see the dangers they face now.

They can't wait for Living Fossils such as you and I to go quietly shuffling off this mortal coil - taking with us our 'preservationist' sentiments which include that our politicians should be representing first and foremost the cultural and demographic interests of this country's future generations of dinky di British and Irish-descended core majority.

They'll march in the streets, shoulder to shoulder with Australia's indigenous people, DEMANDING that indigenous culture and identity be preserved at all cost against contamination and erosion from and by government interference -- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners.

 

You can lead a horse but each generation must learn its own hard lessons

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 8:58am:

-- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners.

"Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure.

What's your criteria for compatibility?

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 6:12am:

I don't actually remember when it was that the International Socialist Left began their concerted program of openly demonising the preservation of Western homelands for the locals, and the notion that having discriminatory immigration policy was a moral abomination.

you have it wrong Herb ... I'm a strong advocate of discriminatory Immigration ...

the sooner we get rid of all the old poms, the better off we'll be.

That's what he basically said, except to add you couldn't wait.

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 2:02pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 6:12am: I don't actually remember when it was that the International Socialist Left began their concerted program of openly demonising the preservation of Western homelands for the locals, and the notion that having discriminatory immigration policy was a moral abomination. you have it wrong Herb ... I'm a strong advocate of discriminatory Immigration ... the sooner we get rid of all the old poms, the better off we'll be.

Italy has been saying and doing the same thing with the black Muslims coming over from North Africa ... passing them through their northern border and into the rest of Europe.

Italy doesn't want them. Same with Greece.

And then when the EU parliament told Italy to keep their black Muslims - the Italian government then squealed like stuck pigs.

;D

innocentbystander. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 8:45am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 6:12am: Who in public life today dares to suggest that perhaps in the interest of our future generations it might be a good time to turn off the tap to Muslim and Negro immigration? Donald Trump?

I believe the Yanks call it "kicking ass"

Anyone want to guess what the EU is going to do about the Muslim problem? Oh, sorry. There is no Muslim problem.

issuevoter wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 2:48pm:

Anyone want to guess what the EU is going to do about the Muslim problem? Oh, sorry. There is no Muslim problem.

They have no idea.

Denial however will buy them time to figure something out.

Well, firstly let's acknowledge that it's more than a muslim problem but there is no denying muslims are an overwhelming component of the mass migration.

I can't see that they will do anything much about it except shuffle the deck of cards, hoping that everyone will get a hand that keeps them in the game of taking people in.
But it's odds on that not everyone will stay in the game.
The migrants want to get to northern Europe destinations. Britain is lucky, it has a big ditch.
The Germans are the worst off. They are looking at 500,000 this year. Can you imagine that - half a million.
I expect some of the smaller countries will take deterrent measures. Hungary is building a great wall.
When these soft measures fail, as they surely will in the face of a population movement that is not going to stop, harsher measures will be brought to bear.

link

Wonderful.

This is just the sort of immigrant bedlam that will eventually wake up most of the Western countries to the self-destructive idiocy of flooding themselves with a Blacks-and-Muslim Problem for their future generations to have to suffer.

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 2:57pm:

The Germans are the worst off. They are looking at 500,000 this year. Can you imagine that - half a million.

They've been voting for this to happen. They're absolutely delighted that their home country of Germany is in the process of being flooded out with Blacks and Muslims. Germans hate themselves.

"The more Blacks and Muslims - the Better!" is their mantra. They want their country to become even more of a pressure-cooker religious and ethnic mix than it is already. 


bogarde73 wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 2:57pm:

When these soft measures fail, as they surely will in the face of a population movement that is not going to stop, harsher measures will be brought to bear.

Exactly so.

'Harsher measures' indeed. That's a nice euphemism for cattle trains, watch-towers, and lots of razor-wire. Storm-trooper clouds are gathering on the horizon even as we speak.

The whole mass-immigration scenario in Europe that is composed mainly of Blacks and Muslims is a custom-made formula for resurrecting Nazis back into power in a dozen different countries [b]at the demand[/b] of their voting public.

Why does western civilisation have a death wish?
And who are bidding to be the undertakers?

Look at the self-appointed progressives jumping up and down to try and force David Cameron to voluntarily allow the import of a vast horde of the worst possible economic migrants from Africa and the ME.
Who's going to house them? Who's going to employ them? Who's going to school them? Who's going to provide hospitals and medical care for them?
Maybe Santa Claus will.

And who's going to prevent them turning the UK into a battleground of ethnic & religious turmoil?

The answer to all the above is nobody will. The resources don't exist to do all of that and even if they did, what a waste.

But among the chief bidders for the funeral contract is the Australian-born leader of the Greens in the UK.
She believes that the UK should immediately take 250,000 of the invaders. A quarter of a million!

David Cameron needs to hold his resolve and prepare to repel boarders.
Let the Germans take their 800,000 - it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being more.
Maybe then, they think, the world won't mention the war again.
That's their problem, let them stew in it.
Many other countries are getting fed up with the progressive rhetoric flowing out of Germany & Brussels.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 3:14pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 19th, 2015 at 8:06am: It's 107,000 for Europe in July. It's 20,000 last week alone for Greece. Next stop Australia if Labor gets the chance to fling the gates open again. An Excellent Editorial again, Bogarde. They tell us it's RACIST to want to stop any further immigration. It means we're xenophobic, Islamophobic, White Supremacists, Insular, and anti-Minority Ghettoes if we speak out against any further immigration.

Except for immigrants like you, Herbie.

You’re a keeper.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am: -- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners. "Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure. What's your criteria for compatibility?

For starters, respect the laws and do not illegally enter other countries, foisting yourselves onto people who didn't ask you to come.


Flee wars by all means and ask for asylum when you are out of harm's way. But demanding to be allowed to illegally cross several borders because you want to force a country to settle you is a clear demonstration that you are not compatible with law abiding, law governed societies and you will continue to not play by the rules because your opening gambit was to act illegally. Repeatedly.

SO illegal immigrants are incompatible.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 8:58am:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:09am: Well written herb. Quite brilliant in fact. It's sadly true that it's only we older few, uncontaminated by the bilge mentality imposed on the young, who are able to see the dangers they face now. They can't wait for Living Fossils such as you and I to go quietly shuffling off this mortal coil - taking with us our 'preservationist' sentiments which include that our politicians should be representing first and foremost the cultural and demographic interests of this country's future generations of dinky di British and Irish-descended core majority. They'll march in the streets, shoulder to shoulder with Australia's indigenous people, DEMANDING that indigenous culture and identity be preserved at all cost against contamination and erosion from and by government interference -- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners.

You better be nice to us. The meek look set to inherit the earth.
And we'll be the ones choosing your nursing home too :)

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 11:49am:

Why does western civilisation have a death wish? And who are bidding to be the undertakers? Look at the self-appointed progressives jumping up and down to try and force David Cameron to voluntarily allow the import of a vast horde of the worst possible economic migrants from Africa and the ME. Who's going to house them? Who's going to employ them? Who's going to school them? Who's going to provide hospitals and medical care for them? Maybe Santa Claus will. And who's going to prevent them turning the UK into a battleground of ethnic & religious turmoil? The answer to all the above is nobody will. The resources don't exist to do all of that and even if they did, what a waste. But among the chief bidders for the funeral contract is the Australian-born leader of the Greens in the UK. She believes that the UK should immediately take 250,000 of the invaders. A quarter of a million! David Cameron needs to hold his resolve and prepare to repel boarders. Let the Germans take their 800,000 - it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being more. Maybe then, they think, the world won't mention the war again. That's their problem, let them stew in it. Many other countries are getting fed up with the progressive rhetoric flowing out of Germany & Brussels.

Jah, but Der DeutscherVolk haff der answer.. MothballenAuschwitzenLageren..  for a few marks could be up und runnink again.... when problem too bad, iss new home for social misfit and undesirable....

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 11:49am:

And who's going to prevent them turning the UK into a battleground of ethnic & religious turmoil? The answer to all the above is nobody will. The resources don't exist to do all of that and even if they did, what a waste. But among the chief bidders for the funeral contract is the Australian-born leader of the Greens in the UK. She believes that the UK should immediately take 250,000 of the invaders. A quarter of a million! David Cameron needs to hold his resolve and prepare to repel boarders. Let the Germans take their 800,000 - it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being more. Maybe then, they think, the world won't mention the war again. That's their problem, let them stew in it. Many other countries are getting fed up with the progressive rhetoric flowing out of Germany & Brussels.

On Thursday Germany and France ordered the European commission to come up with a new “permanent” and binding regime for spreading the refugee load around all of the 28 countries in the union. David Cameron and home secretary Theresa May want nothing to do with the scheme and have absented themselves from the policymaking, carping from the sidelines.

On Friday the prime ministers of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic told Paris and Berlin to get stuffed, arguing that west European-style multiculturalism is nothing but trouble and that they have no intention of repeating the same mistakes.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/05/migration-crisis-europe-leaders-blame-brussels-hungary-germany

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 24^th, 2015 at 1:42pm:

You can lead a horse but each generation must learn its own hard lessons

Unfortunately, with a demographic timebomb, it's not the generation responsible that pays the price.  Boomers will have comfortably lived out their days on full pensions before the following generations realise the terrible cost they inflicted upon us. 

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Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 2:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 1:57pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am: -- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners. "Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure. What's your criteria for compatibility? SO illegal immigrants are incompatible.

Agreed.

I have no time for illegal immigrants.

Moreover, I haven't seen anyone in this forum who supports them.

You're arguing with yourself.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 2:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 1:57pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am: -- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners. "Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure. What's your criteria for compatibility? SO illegal immigrants are incompatible. Agreed. I have no time for illegal immigrants. Moreover, I haven't seen anyone in this forum who supports them. You're arguing with yourself.

You asked a question, bozo. I gave you an answer. That's not arguing with myself, Thickas5firedoors.
Given a choice,  you will always lurch for the idiotic option. You are very reliable that way.

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 11:32am:

On Friday the prime ministers of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic told Paris and Berlin to get stuffed, arguing that west European-style multiculturalism is nothing but trouble and that they have no intention of repeating the same mistakes. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/05/migration-crisis-europe-leaders-blame-brussels-hungary-germany

This is the first sensible thing I've heard national leaders say since Angela Merkel announced a few years ago that 'multiculturalism' is an utter failure.

It's hugely encouraging to know that the move to defend national cultural heritage and historic identity against alien invasion and the development of Third World 'multicultural' ghettoes is at last making its appearance among the European nations.

It seems a new generation of politicians is at last emerging who are able to acknowledge the realities, and who have not let themselves be charmed by the social engineers who are legion, and whose agenda is to erode and eliminate Western nationalism.

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 9:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2015 at 12:52pm: Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 2:23pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 1:57pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am: -- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners. "Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure. What's your criteria for compatibility? SO illegal immigrants are incompatible. Agreed. I have no time for illegal immigrants. Moreover, I haven't seen anyone in this forum who supports them. You're arguing with yourself. You asked a question, bozo. I gave you an answer. That's not arguing with myself, Thickas5firedoors. Given a choice,  you will always lurch for the idiotic option. You are very reliable that way.

"... but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners."

Nobody is supporting illegal immigrants.

What's led you to be in such a state of confusion?

It's all too late herb. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

Isn't time for Israel to take some refugees from Syria, anyway they are just across the border.
I guess now descendants of Holocaust survivors have a chance to show their solidarity with sufferers.
Or they would rather bomb them.

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 7:10am:

It's all too late herb. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

It is good that the Europeans are accepting refugees, because they themselves will most likely end up as refugees, if the American plan to start a war in Europe succeeds.

Peter Hitchens - Mail on Sunday:

Actually we can’t do what we like with this country. We inherited it from our parents and grandparents and we have a duty to hand it on to our children and grandchildren, preferably improved and certainly undamaged.

It is one of the heaviest responsibilities we will ever have. We cannot just give it away to complete strangers on an impulse because it makes us feel good about ourselves.
Every one of the posturing notables simpering ‘refugees welcome’ should be asked if he or she will take a refugee family into his or her home for an indefinite period, and pay for their food, medical treatment and education.
If so, they mean it. If not, they are merely demanding that others pay and make room so that they can experience a self-righteous glow. No doubt the same people are also sentimental enthusiasts for the ‘living wage’, and ‘social housing’, when in fact open borders are steadily pushing wages down and housing costs up.

As William Blake rightly said: ‘He who would do good to another must do it in minute particulars. General good is the plea of the scoundrel, hypocrite and flatterer.’

Britain is a desirable place to live mainly because it is an island, which most people can’t get to. Most of the really successful civilisations survived because they were protected from invasion by mountains, sea, deserts or a combination of these things. Ask the Russians or the Poles what it’s like to live without the shield of the sea. There is no positive word for ‘safety’ in Russian. Their word for security is ‘bezopasnost’ – ‘without danger’.

Thanks to a thousand years of uninvaded peace, we have developed astonishing levels of trust, safety and freedom. I have visited nearly 60 countries and lived in the USSR, Russia and the USA, and I have never experienced anything as good as what we have. Only in the Anglosphere countries – the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand – is there anything comparable. I am amazed at how relaxed we are about giving this away.

Our advantages depend very much on our shared past, our inherited traditions, habits and memories. Newcomers can learn them, but only if they come in small enough numbers. Mass immigration means we adapt to them, when they should be adapting to us.

So now, on the basis of an emotional spasm, dressed up as civilisation and generosity, are we going to say that we abandon this legacy and decline our obligation to pass it on, like the enfeebled, wastrel heirs of an ancient inheritance letting the great house and the estate go to ruin?
Having seen more than my share of real corpses, and watched children starving to death in a Somali famine, I am not unmoved by pictures of a dead child on a Turkish beach. But I am not going to pretend to be more upset than anyone else. Nor am I going to suddenly stop thinking, as so many people in the media and politics appear to have done.

The child is not dead because advanced countries have immigration laws. The child is dead because criminal traffickers cynically risked the lives of their victims in pursuit of money.

I’ll go further. The use of words such as ‘desperate’ is quite wrong in this case. The child’s family were safe in Turkey. Turkey (for all its many faults) is a member of Nato, officially classified as free and democratic. Many British people actually pay good money to go on holiday to the very beach where the child’s body was washed up.

It may not be ideal, but the definition of a refugee is that he is fleeing from danger, not fleeing towards a higher standard of living.

Goodness knows I have done what I could on this page to oppose the stupid interventions by this country in Iraq, Libya and Syria, which have turned so many innocent people into refugees or corpses.

But I can see neither sense nor justice in allowing these things to become a pretext for an unstoppable demographic revolution in which Europe (including, alas, our islands) merges its culture and its economy with North Africa and the Middle East. If we let this happen, Europe would lose almost all the things that make others want to live there.

You really think these crowds of tough young men chanting ‘Germany!’ in the heart of Budapest are ‘asylum-seekers’ or ‘refugees’?

Refugees don’t confront the police of the countries in which they seek sanctuary. They don’t chant orchestrated slogans or lie across the train tracks.

And why, by the way, do they use the English name for Germany when they chant? In Arabic and Turkish, that country is called ‘Almanya’, in Kurdish something similar. The Germans themselves call it ‘Deutschland’. In Hungarian, it’s ‘Nemetorszag’.

Did someone hope that British and American TV would be there? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: spontaneous demonstrations take a lot of organising.

Refugees don’t demand or choose their refuge. They ask and they hope. When we become refugees one day (as we may well do), we will discover this.

As to what those angry, confident and forceful young men actually are, I’ll leave you to work it out, as I am too afraid of the Thought Police to use what I think is the correct word.
. . .cont

But it is interesting that this week sees the publication in English of a rather dangerous book, which came out in France just before the Charlie Hebdo murders.

Submission, by Michel Houellebecq, prophesies a Muslim-dominated government in France about seven years from now, ushered into power by the French Tory and Labour parties.

What they want, says one of the cleverer characters in the book, ‘is for France to disappear – to be integrated into a European federation’. This means they’d much rather do a deal with a Muslim party than with the National Front, France’s Ukip equivalent.

If any of this sounds familiar to you, I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s amazing how likely and simple the author makes this Islamic revolution sound.

Can we stop this transformation of all we have and are? I doubt it. To do so would involve the grim-faced determination of Australia, making it plain in every way that our doors are open only to limited numbers of people, chosen by us, enduring the righteous scorn of the supposedly enlightened.
As we lack the survival instinct and the determination necessary, and as so many of our most influential people are set on committing a sentimental national suicide, I suspect we won’t.
To those who condemn reasonable calls for national self-defence as bigotry, hatred and intolerance (which they are not), I make only this request: just don’t pretend you’re doing a good and generous thing, when you’re really cowardly and weak.

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 7:10am:

It's all too late herb. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

Well spotted, bogarde.

And needless to say the biggest lunatic on the world stage at this very moment is Germany's Angela Merkel.

From announcing to the world only a few short years ago that "Multiculturalism is a failure" - this breasty wench is now in the process of screwing her country with Muslim Arabs - a very different entity to Turkish Muslims, as she has yet to discover.

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And this is worth repeating:

"As we lack the survival instinct and the determination necessary, and as so many of our most influential people are set on committing a sentimental national suicide, I suspect we won’t".

"... a sentimental national suicide ..."

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"To those who condemn reasonable calls for national self-defence as bigotry, hatred and intolerance (which they are not), I make only this request: just don’t pretend you’re doing a good and generous thing, when you’re really cowardly and weak".

The Camp of the Saints is a novel about population migration and its consequences. In Calcutta, India, the Belgian government announces a policy in which Indian babies will be adopted and raised in Belgium. The policy is reversed after the Belgian consulate is inundated with poverty-stricken parents eager to give up their infant children.
An Indian "wise man" then rallies the masses to make a mass exodus to live in Europe. Most of the story centers on the French Riviera, where almost no one remains except for the military and a few civilians, including a retired professor who has been watching the huge fleet of run-down freighters approaching the French coast.
The story alternates between the French reaction to the mass immigration and the attitude of the immigrants. They have no desire to assimilate into French culture but want the goods that are in short supply in their native India. Although the novel focuses on France, the rest of the West shares its fate.
Near the end of the story the mayor of New York City is made to share Gracie Mansion with three families from Harlem, the Queen of the United Kingdom must agree to have her son marry a Pakistani woman, and only one drunken Soviet soldier stands in the way of thousands of Chinese people as they swarm into Siberia. The one holdout until the end of the novel is Switzerland, but by then international pressure isolating it as a rogue state for not opening its borders forces it to capitulate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints

Soren wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

The Camp of the Saints is a novel about population migration and its consequences. In Calcutta, India, the Belgian government announces a policy in which Indian babies will be adopted and raised in Belgium. The policy is reversed after the Belgian consulate is inundated with poverty-stricken parents eager to give up their infant children. An Indian "wise man" then rallies the masses to make a mass exodus to live in Europe. Most of the story centers on the French Riviera, where almost no one remains except for the military and a few civilians, including a retired professor who has been watching the huge fleet of run-down freighters approaching the French coast. The story alternates between the French reaction to the mass immigration and the attitude of the immigrants. They have no desire to assimilate into French culture but want the goods that are in short supply in their native India. Although the novel focuses on France, the rest of the West shares its fate. Near the end of the story the mayor of New York City is made to share Gracie Mansion with three families from Harlem, the Queen of the United Kingdom must agree to have her son marry a Pakistani woman, and only one drunken Soviet soldier stands in the way of thousands of Chinese people as they swarm into Siberia. The one holdout until the end of the novel is Switzerland, but by then international pressure isolating it as a rogue state for not opening its borders forces it to capitulate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints

Interesting that this 40 year old book returned to the bestsellers list in 2011. 

Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us.

But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats.

Have you read the Peter Hitchens article Gandalf?

While you may say it's only a small problem for Europe (and potentially for Australia under the ALP), he clearly sees it, and I agree with him, as a foundational change event for western society.

Am I to take it that you would prefer to see a halt to bombing of ISIL targets? Are they to be allowed to expand unopposed in any way into an ever greater threat to stability in the region?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us. But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats.

Nobody's bombed Syria, only jihadis.

Arab Spring, innit.

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:30pm:

Have you read the Peter Hitchens article Gandalf?

Some nonsense about having a duty to not condemn our lovely white homeland to become horrible and tinted for our grand-kiddies. Didn't read much further than that. I've heard it all before - Europe needs to stand up, stop being a walk-over for the tinted peoples, reclaim their pride in christian culture etc etc. Nothing new here.

See I'm not interested in winding back the clock to recreate some European utopia that never existed in the first place - I'm interested in actual solutions. There are some 6 million Syrians displaced because of war. They are currently filling up their impoverished neighbours to bursting point. They are not going to be able to go back to their homes any time soon - they need sanctuary. Most of them will be accommodated by neighbours, but they are not equipped to cope. The international community must step in and ease the burden on them. A few hundred thousand out of 6 million seems like a pretty good deal for me.

Soren wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:36am: Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us. But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats. Nobody's bombed Syria, only jihadis. Arab Spring, innit.

The US is bombing Syria as we speak - along with their arab lapdogs. You might have heard a bit on the news about Australia wanting to join in too. Keep up S.

The rise of ISIS is a direct result of the catastrophic invasion of Iraq.

Avoiding the question gandalf. Not surprising.
So you oppose bombing ISIL?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 2:59pm:

The rise of ISIS is a direct result of the catastrophic invasion of Iraq.

Americanophobic nonsense.

The rise of ISIS is a direct result of Sunni Muslims objecting to democracy in Iraq when this meant that the Shia sect could at last have some representation in its parliament - accompanied by a degree of political clout that it never had before. Period.

Isn't it time you stopped propagandising on behalf of the guilty, gandalf?

Why don't you tell us that the only way Muslims can live peacefully with one another in Iraq is under the sort of Police State dictatorship that Saddam Hussein had constructed in order to keep the warring factions apart while they lived in their separate cages?

That's really the bottom line here. The US-Coalition invasion did nothing more than release the religious psychopaths from their different zoos. The US shot the locks off the cage doors, and what we're witnessing now is how Islamic Neanderthals behave when there's no one to stop them.

You might find it edifying and instructive to read 'Lord of the Flies' by William Golding. He explains what happens to a bunch of children on a desert island where there are no adults around to control their behaviour or punish them.

It's a metaphor for what's happening with the ISIS phenomenon.

It's what happens when people whose natural intelligence has been crippled, mutilated and corrupted by years of religious absolutist indoctrination, and are then finally released by circumstances to go wander the countryside like mass-escapees from a lunatic asylum.

The only thing they're not doing is stumbling around in rags while moaning... "brains... I need brains... BRAAAAINS!!" just like in that movie 'Night of the Living Dead'.

Back into your box, gandalf. Nice try, but no hashish this time.









 

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 3:13pm:

Avoiding the question gandalf. Not surprising. So you oppose bombing ISIL?

Sorry, wasn't I clear? When the current bombing strategy just compounds the issue and does nothing to halt ISIS - then yes of course I do

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 3:47pm:

The rise of ISIS is a direct result of Sunni Muslims objecting to democracy in Iraq

Yes of course it is  ::)

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 3:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 3:47pm: The rise of ISIS is a direct result of Sunni Muslims objecting to democracy in Iraq Yes of course it is  ::)

Oh for god sake don't channel Brian Ross. That's the ultimate terrorism.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 2:59pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 1:33pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:36am: Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us. But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats. Nobody's bombed Syria, only jihadis. Arab Spring, innit. The US is bombing Syria as we speak -

The Syrian civil war started in 2011. "By the end of August 2014, the UN estimated 6.5 million people had been displaced in Syria".  With no Western bombing. 

But the West was pressured all along to inervene more forcefully. And after they did, this time last year, they get all the blame.


Typical.

They get the blame for conducting a completely ineffective bombing campaign with no clear strategy.

Exactly what has the year-long bombing campaign achieved so far? What is it supposed to achieve in the future?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 4:55pm:

They get the blame for conducting a completely ineffective bombing campaign with no clear strategy. Exactly what has the year-long bombing campaign achieved so far? What is it supposed to achieve in the future?

It would take out a few of the tinted races. Not good enough?

You people are fussy.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 3:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 3:13pm: Avoiding the question gandalf. Not surprising. So you oppose bombing ISIL? Sorry, wasn't I clear? When the current bombing strategy just compounds the issue and does nothing to halt ISIS - then yes of course I do

So, you oppose the only military action going on at present, or almost the only action, to oppose a tyrannical, barbaric quasi-state, which most people recognise as being a threat to peace in the region if not globally through terror.

And no doubt you place your allegiance to your religion ahead of allegiance to this country?

And you're living amongst us.

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 2:15pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 3:50pm: bogarde73 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 3:13pm: Avoiding the question gandalf. Not surprising. So you oppose bombing ISIL? Sorry, wasn't I clear? When the current bombing strategy just compounds the issue and does nothing to halt ISIS - then yes of course I do So, you oppose the only military action going on at present, or almost the only action, to oppose a tyrannical, barbaric quasi-state, which most people recognise as being a threat to peace in the region if not globally through terror. And no doubt you place your allegiance to your religion ahead of allegiance to this country? And you're living amongst us.

Been drinking again boges?

Yes, silly me, opposing military action because its not achieving what its supposed to achieve - how unreasonable of me.

Give me a military solution that actual works in anhialating ISIS and I'll be the first to jump onboard.

This is what is so upsetting to gandalf.

link


link

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But wait! There's more!!

Here's a segment for the next edition of Ripleys 'Believe it or Not'.

link

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 2:15pm:

And no doubt you place your allegiance to your religion ahead of allegiance to this country?

Oh, pulease   ::)

Having a bad hair day greg?

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 3:25pm:

Having a bad hair day greg?

The only thing missing from your incredibly ridiculous post, was the word 'traitor'.

Seriously, who feeds you guys this juvenile propaganda?

Don't you know how to think for yourselves?

This must be your troll hour boges - with a glass of red - or 5

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

This is what is so upsetting to gandalf. link link **** But wait! There's more!! Here's a segment for the next edition of Ripleys 'Believe it or Not'. link

I don't think he would be upset about the last article herb.
Or really, would be upset about the other two. I mean, they are proven successful strikes. Putting some IS barbarians out of action.
He agrees with that doesn't he?
After all he's a loyal part of the west now, isn't he?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 3:27pm:

This must be your troll hour boges - with a glass of red - or 5

Can you see any slurred print?

Actually I mistook Herbies post for yours. My apologies for that.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

Actually I mistook Herbies post for yours. My apologies for that.

8-) :P

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 4:55pm:

They get the blame for conducting a completely ineffective bombing campaign with no clear strategy. Exactly what has the year-long bombing campaign achieved so far? What is it supposed to achieve in the future?

OK, you want complete non-intervention in the Middle East by Western powers.

That must include a complete barring of Middle Eastern immigration and refugee intake  by the West as well.

Yes?

Ooh look, Soren's constructing strawmen again.


polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

Give me a military solution that actual works in anhialating ISIS and I'll be the first to jump onboard.

Soren wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 8:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 4:55pm: They get the blame for conducting a completely ineffective bombing campaign with no clear strategy. Exactly what has the year-long bombing campaign achieved so far? What is it supposed to achieve in the future? OK, you want complete non-intervention in the Middle East by Western powers. That must include a complete barring of Middle Eastern immigration and refugee intake  by the West as well. Yes?

Game, Set, and Match.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 8:36pm:

Ooh look, Soren's constructing strawmen again. polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 3:11pm: Give me a military solution that actual works in anhialating ISIS and I'll be the first to jump onboard.

Er... killing them all??

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

Actually I mistook Herbies post for yours. My apologies for that.

I'm not interested in your apology. I'm interested in knowing where your loyalties lie and your refusal to answer the direct questions I ask leads me to the conclusion that there is a big question mark.

bogarde I couldn't have been more direct. Please go over my posts again. If there is anything you think I am unclear on please let me know and I will clarify for you.

I think I am being very patient with you all things considered....

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

I think I am being very patient with you all things considered....

;D ;D ;D

Daddy Gandalf holding back on using the strap.

This Juncker bloke has got illusions of being in fact a Prussian Junker methinks.

Imagine the hide of it, purporting to order all the EU member states to take a quota of illegals according to his formula.

Fortunately the East Euro states will give him the finger, as hopefully will the UK.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us. But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats.

Illegal migration should be stopped.

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:36am: Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us. But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats. Illegal migration should be stopped.

Islamaphobes.   LOL, may have escaped your predjudiced observation that muslims fleeing the depredations of other muslims are fleeing to the racist islamaphobic west whilst fellow islamic countries are either erecting barriers or such shitholes that other muslims don't even consider settling there. 

None the less, with Saudis offer of 200 mosques you can be sure that they are diligently turning the countries to which they flee to escape other Muslims into shitholes as well. 

You must be so proud.   ::)

Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:36am: Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us. But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats. Illegal migration should be stopped.

Just wondering why Israel doesn't take migrants, it's much closer then Europe?.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us. But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats.

Lets break down your nice intellectual comment here since my last comment I made was good for a laugh turbin gandolf.  Taking in 800 000 (1% total population) of a vastly different culture of mostly men in a single year is not a piss ant amount, as Germany suddenly wants to do. 

Neighbour muslim countries like Saudi, Qatar arn't taking a single refugee.  How long have the palestinians been spurned turbin wizard man?  Muslims only care about spreading Allah around the globe or politically using their own enslaved caste as examples of victim hood.

How about we stop bombing these countries? Yeh lets just give them money thats the answer.  Lets give syria iraq iran lots money set up a few concentration camps so ISIS Iran can get their genocides under way with more efficiency.  Hey give Iran $150B could finally wipe out Israel with a nuke.  Oh wait.

athos wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:33pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 4:39pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:36am: Rest easy Islamophobes - Europe is taking in but a tiny fraction of the overall global displaced. The vast majority of them will remain in neighbouring tinted countries. A few hundred thousand will not break us. But hey, if you really want to do something about this - how about we stop bombing and destabilising these regions? Moreover we could even invest more in helping the UN and the overburdened third world countries with aid and infrastructure to help them cope better with refugees/displaced people. Then maybe there won't be so many of them willing to hop on leaky boats. Illegal migration should be stopped. Just wondering why Israel doesn't take migrants, it's much closer then Europe?.

Israel threatened with annihilation every week, and you wonder why they arn't taking in refugee's? 

athos wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:33pm:

Just wondering why Israel doesn't take migrants, it's much closer then Europe?.

;D ;D ;D

I see you're following suit with the Leftwing media - calling them simply 'migrants'.

No-Name brand 'migrants'.

Generic 'migrants'.

"Nothing to see here, folks" - 'migrants'.

M-I-G-R-A-N-T-S.

Question:

What do you suppose is the-elephant-in-the-room the Leftwing media is desperately trying to avoid drawing attention to here?

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 8:02pm:

athos wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 6:33pm: Just wondering why Israel doesn't take migrants, it's much closer then Europe?. ;D ;D ;D I see you're following suit with the Leftwing media - calling them simply 'migrants'. No-Name brand 'migrants'. Generic 'migrants'. "Nothing to see here, folks" - 'migrants'. M-I-G-R-A-N-T-S. Question: What do you suppose is the-elephant-in-the-room the Leftwing media is desperately trying to avoid drawing attention to here?

You know what I find amusing, Herb?

That no-one has yet mentioned the possibility that ISIS have disguised their own operatives amongst this human flood. To consider that such radicals have ignored the possibility just beggars belief.

One supposes that we'll have to wait some period of time before one of these so-called 'migrants', or 'refugees', if you prefer - decides to blow themselves up, along with a number of the host country's innocents, while shouting : 'the usual'.

Of course, not even one teeny little radical among those hundreds of thousands descending upon Europe.  ::)

God help Europe - they can't help themselves.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 8:02pm:

athos wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 6:33pm: Just wondering why Israel doesn't take migrants, it's much closer then Europe?. ;D ;D ;D I see you're following suit with the Leftwing media - calling them simply 'migrants'. No-Name brand 'migrants'. Generic 'migrants'. "Nothing to see here, folks" - 'migrants'. M-I-G-R-A-N-T-S. Question: What do you suppose is the-elephant-in-the-room the Leftwing media is desperately trying to avoid drawing attention to here?

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/32a/386/008/resized/aboriginal-meme-generator-don-t-like-immigration-when-you-leaving-bro-9c5a50.jpg

Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 8:32pm:

You know what I find amusing, Herb? That no-one has yet mentioned the possibility that ISIS have disguised their own operatives amongst this human flood. To consider that such radicals have ignored the possibility just beggars belief. One supposes that we'll have to wait some period of time before one of these so-called 'migrants', or 'refugees', if you prefer - decides to blow themselves up, along with a number of the host country's innocents, while shouting : 'the usual'. Of course, not even one teeny little radical among those hundreds of thousands descending upon Europe.  ::) God help Europe - they can't help themselves.

Indeed. Lionel.

But what I find tragic in light of the future of Western civilisation in Europe is that none of these jihadists will target a politician for mortal termination.

Would Germany's Angela Merkel have been so generous with inviting 800,000 of these Muslims if a couple of Europe's top politicians had already been 'eliminated'?

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 14th, 2015 at 8:32pm: You know what I find amusing, Herb? That no-one has yet mentioned the possibility that ISIS have disguised their own operatives amongst this human flood. To consider that such radicals have ignored the possibility just beggars belief. One supposes that we'll have to wait some period of time before one of these so-called 'migrants', or 'refugees', if you prefer - decides to blow themselves up, along with a number of the host country's innocents, while shouting : 'the usual'. Of course, not even one teeny little radical among those hundreds of thousands descending upon Europe.  ::) God help Europe - they can't help themselves. Indeed. Lionel. But what I find tragic in light of the future of Western civilisation in Europe is that none of these jihadists will target a politician for mortal termination. Would Germany's Angela Merkel have been so generous with inviting 800,000 of these Muslims if a couple of Europe's top politicians had already been 'eliminated'?

Jesus you're an idiot, Herbie.

Seriously.

Germany: Migrants' Rape Epidemic

Although the rape took place in June, police kept silent about it for nearly three months, until local media published a story about the crime. According to an editorial comment in the newspaper Westfalen-Blatt, police are refusing to go public about crimes involving refugees and migrants because they do not want to give legitimacy to critics of mass migration.

A 13-year-old Muslim girl was raped by another asylum seeker at a refugee facility in Detmold, a city in west-central Germany. The girl and her mother reportedly fled their homeland to escape a culture of sexual violence.

Approximately 80% of the refugees/migrants at the shelter in Munich are male... the price for sex with female asylum seekers is ten euros. — Bavarian Broadcasting (Bayerischer Rundfunk).

Police in the Bavarian town of Mering, where a 16-year-old-girl was raped on September 11, have issued a warning to parents not to allow their children to go outside unaccompanied. In the Bavarian town of Pocking, administrators of the Wilhelm-Diess-Gymnasium have warned parents not to let their daughter's wear revealing clothing in order to avoid "misunderstandings."

"When Muslim teenage boys go to open air swimming pools, they are overwhelmed when they see girls in bikinis. These boys, who come from a culture where for women it is frowned upon to show naked skin, will follow girls and bother them without their realizing it. Naturally, this generates fear." — Bavarian politician, quoted in Die Welt.

A police raid on the Munich refugee facility found that guards hired to provide security at the site were trafficking drugs and weapons and were turning a blind eye to the prostitution.

Meanwhile, the raping of German women by asylum seekers is becoming commonplace.


A growing number of women and young girls housed in refugee shelters in Germany are being raped, sexually assaulted and even forced into prostitution by male asylum seekers, according to German social work organizations with first-hand knowledge of the situation.

Many of the rapes are occurring in mixed-gender shelters, where, due to a lack of space, German authorities are forcing thousands of male and female migrants to share the same sleeping areas and restroom facilities.

Conditions for women and girls at some shelters are so perilous that females are being described as "wild game" fighting off Muslim male predators. But many victims, fearing reprisals, are keeping silent, social workers say.

At the same time, growing numbers of German women in towns and cities across the country are being raped by asylum seekers from Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Many of the crimes are being downplayed by German authorities and the national media, apparently to avoid fueling anti-immigration sentiments.

more here: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6527/migrants-rape-germany

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHg9TADZyA

Refugee crisis: Munich is at its limits

September 15, Brigitte Meier, Commissioner for Social Affairs in Munich, speaks at a meeting of the SPD (Social-Democratic Party of Germany) in Berlin about the refugee crisis in her city

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=669_1442694254#fybYdg0XDLx9AfZt.99

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=669_1442694254

Soren wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

Refugee crisis: Munich is at its limits September 15, Brigitte Meier, Commissioner for Social Affairs in Munich, speaks at a meeting of the SPD (Social-Democratic Party of Germany) in Berlin about the refugee crisis in her city Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=669_1442694254#fybYdg0XDLx9AfZt.99 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=669_1442694254

He's taking a page out of the Turk's book.

In the old days when the Turks invaded Macedonia and other countries they would take the local boys back to Turkey and bring them up as Turks - and then at a certain age when they were deemed ready - they were sent back to rejoin their families in the villages and towns, knowing they had their loyalty.

A trans-European war is looming. The rivers will run red with blood. If I was young and went to join this war, I wouldn't be looking for Muslims - me and my little group would be concentrating entirely on seeking out and summarily executing the politicians who knowingly orchestrated this invasion of Europe by the Muslims over the past 60 years already.

I would have hundreds hanging from gibbets all across Europe and the UK.

Europe is over.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3239625/Days-sealing-access-Serbia-Hungary-announces-build-giant-fence-Croatian-border-neighbour-begs-migrants-stop-arriving.html


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/18/17/2C7815B500000578-3239625-Hundreds_of_migrants_walk_up_the_side_of_a_busy_road_near_Edirne-a-27_1442592521657.jpg
Hundreds of migrants walk up the side of a busy road near Edirne, Turkey, carrying huge bags of belongings as they walk towards towards the Greek border

Machine guns would save lives in the long run.

Soren wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Europe is over. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3239625/Days-sealing-access-Serbia-Hungary-announces-build-giant-fence-Croatian-border-neighbour-begs-migrants-stop-arriving.html http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/18/17/2C7815B500000578-3239625-Hundreds_of_migrants_walk_up_the_side_of_a_busy_road_near_Edirne-a-27_1442592521657.jpg Hundreds of migrants walk up the side of a busy road near Edirne, Turkey, carrying huge bags of belongings as they walk towards towards the Greek border

It's up to the Europeans to take back control of their countries. Their governments have obviously lost control.

double plus good wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 8:27pm:

It's up to the Europeans to take back control of their countries. Their governments have obviously lost control.

The governments are totally in control of the situation - don't let the Leftwing press fool you.

Question: Have we seen any of the countries deploying their army personnel to safeguard their borders against this Muslim invasion?

Answer: Not one.

So what are armies for? And why not?

Of course this is an orchestrated invasion that has been secretly organised by the European governments themselves. Only one in five of these mobs is from Syria - while all the rest are from Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and elsewhere.

So how did these different nationalities all of a sudden decide on this migration of wildebeest proportions?

Answer: It was planned by European governments themselves, with a few exceptions to the agreement, notably Hungary, Slovenia, Czechoslovakia and Poland - all now being described as 'Far Right' nasty Nazi-type people by the petulant Leftwing media.

If these Syrians and Iraqis are refugees escaping from ISIS - then why did so many of the young men leave their women and children at home?

It's all a planned fraud.

... wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 8:07pm:

Machine guns would save lives in the long run.

Putting aside for a moment that these people are Carriers of medieval Islamic values and attitudes, and that their default position since birth has been to revile and detest Western secular culture and social values as 'satanic' - they are even so to be admired for the courage they've shown in taking this long hard trek that covers many hundreds of miles - with much of it by road and under very difficult circumstances.

I salute their courage, but not the Islamic dysfunction that they bring with them.

Hungary seems to be the only country that has the balls to defend its national identity and culture against this invasion of Islam's offspring. They are now the first to deploy their army to stop their homeland from becoming infected with the Islam Virus.

You'll have to explain your penultimate post to me Herb.
Why would they want to?

Lets put it in objective perspective.
First Americans and Europeans invaded them with the weapons and proxy armies.
Then they invaded Europe with people without weapons.

Or in other words: "You have weapons we have people, lets see who's gonna win".
Or this lovely Roman proverb: "If you can't defeat them join them"

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 8:11am:

You'll have to explain your penultimate post to me Herb. Why would they want to?

My answer to you has disappeared into the ether. It's gone.

I'm still looking for an app. that makes a copy of everything one types as you are typing it. I've lost scores of forum posts over the years for one reason or another.

Basically, since the mid-50's Europe and Scandinavia have been in the grip of an International Socialist ideology that seeks to destroy sovereign nationhood as a means of avoiding future wars based on nationalism, and also which seeks to re-distribute Western privilege-and-wealth as much as possible towards elevating Third World economies to be more on an equal footing with the West.

And then there's the IMF (International Monetary Fund) which lends money to Western nations on the proviso that they agree to sign-up to certain 'programmes' of a socialist nature, which includes policies of 'multiculturalism', indiscriminate immigration practices, Foreign Aid, refugees intakes, etc etc.

Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital.
Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital.
Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe.
Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos.

Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection.... 

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 10:37am:

Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....

Yep- sectarian Muslims in these countries  hate each other guts.

But we killed all those people with the best of intentions. Don't we get some brownie points for that?

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 10:37am:

Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....

Indeed.  But where do sub-Saharan "refugees" fit in?

http://lokalno.mk/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/300451-turcija-sprechi-nad-400-imigranti-so-brodovi-da-stignat-do-grcija-1024x667.jpg

Gaddafi said this would happen - it is his revenge from beyond the grave. 

Unfortunately, military action was unpopular, but our leaders did it anyway.  Now, when it blows up and exactly what we said would happen, has happened, it is the people who will pay the price, while the leaders responsible escape scot free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z81Wcg6OAY

... wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 11:48am:

[quote author=tickleandrose link=1439935575/116#116 date=1442882236]Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....

Indeed.  But where do sub-Saharan "refugees" fit in?

Libya.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/refugee-crisis-in-niger-sub-saharan-africans-risk-everything-to-flee-libya-a-760280.html

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 10:37am:

Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....

Obviously they should have used more bombs.

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 10:37am:

Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....

We bombed the hell out of Vietnam over a period of several years. Troops on the ground as well. Napalm too.

But now the entire country is a thriving South East Asian tourist destination.

Now Tickle - be honest - what is the ONE most outstanding cultural difference between your list of Gone to Hell Middle Eastern basket-case countries - and that of Vietnam ...?

What is the most salient cultural factor that has been militating against the political health of your list of Middle Eastern countries - as against that of Vietnam's prosperous and peaceful existence after having been bombed back to the Stone Age?

I just KNOW gandalf is BUSTING to answer this one ....... 

Back behind the line gandalf! Wait your turn. i

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 12:42pm:

... wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 11:48am: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 10:37am: Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....  Indeed.  But where do sub-Saharan "refugees" fit in? Libya. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/refugee-crisis-in-niger-sub-saharan-africans-risk-everything-to-flee-libya-a-760280.html [quote] Originally from Niger, Nigeria, Chad or Burkina Faso, they had moved north in search of better fortunes in the country of Moammar Gadhafi. They had worked in Libya, and many of them had hoped to brave the passage to the Italian island of Lampedusa, located just off the African coast, and make it into the European Union.

So they are not refugees - they are opportunistic invaders. 

Not NOW gandalf!

Tickle has yet to answer the question.

... wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 1:31pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 12:42pm: ... wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 11:48am: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 10:37am: Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....  Indeed.  But where do sub-Saharan "refugees" fit in? Libya. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/refugee-crisis-in-niger-sub-saharan-africans-risk-everything-to-flee-libya-a-760280.html [quote] Originally from Niger, Nigeria, Chad or Burkina Faso, they had moved north in search of better fortunes in the country of Moammar Gadhafi. They had worked in Libya, and many of them had hoped to brave the passage to the Italian island of Lampedusa, located just off the African coast, and make it into the European Union. So they are not refugees - they are opportunistic invaders.

They were in Libya, working.  And now, we bombed Libya, and the whole place descend into chaos. So naturally, they move to safer habour.    Its not rocket science.

innocentbystander. wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 12:51pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 10:37am: Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....  Obviously they should have used more bombs.

then, the refugees will double again.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 1:23pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 10:37am: Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....  We bombed the hell out of Vietnam over a period of several years. Troops on the ground as well. Napalm too. But now the entire country is a thriving South East Asian tourist destination. Now Tickle - be honest - what is the ONE most outstanding cultural difference between your list of Gone to Hell Middle Eastern basket-case countries - and that of Vietnam ...? What is the most salient cultural factor that has been militating against the political health of your list of Middle Eastern countries - as against that of Vietnam's prosperous and peaceful existence after having been bombed back to the Stone Age? I just KNOW gandalf is BUSTING to answer this one .......  Back behind the line gandalf! Wait your turn.

Well, for a start, there is a few differences:
1) When the war had just finished, we had the same problem with refugees from Vietnam, and Cambodia.  It took a global response to resolve it. 
2) Vietnam war ended in 1975 - 40 years had passed.  Our old enemies - Vietnam and China had since become our important trading partners.
3) We are still bombing the crap out of Syria, and Iraq. 
4. We are still in the process of toppling Syria government, and bombing ISIL opposition - talk about complications.
5) Libya is in the state of chaos.

I just do not see any ending to this refugee crisis.  It will threaten the geo political stability of the Eurozone and middle East, as well as that of Russia.   This may well be the trigger for second Cold War and war by proxy.    You talked about history.  If history is of any relevance, then its that putting more bombs into an area, will just make things worse regardless of the culture or religion. 

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 1:31pm: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 12:42pm: ... wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 11:48am: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 10:37am: Afghanistan - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos except in the capital. Iraq - we bombed the hell out of them, now the country is in chaos, except in the capital. Syria - we are bombing the hell out of them, and now no where in the country is safe. Libya - we bomibed the hell of them, and now the entire country is in chaos. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection....  Indeed.  But where do sub-Saharan "refugees" fit in? Libya. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/refugee-crisis-in-niger-sub-saharan-africans-risk-everything-to-flee-libya-a-760280.html Quote: Originally from Niger, Nigeria, Chad or Burkina Faso, they had moved north in search of better fortunes in the country of Moammar Gadhafi. They had worked in Libya, and many of them had hoped to brave the passage to the Italian island of Lampedusa, located just off the African coast, and make it into the European Union. So they are not refugees - they are opportunistic invaders.  They were in Libya, working.  And now, we bombed Libya, and the whole place descend into chaos. So naturally, they move to safer habour.    Its not rocket science. Fair dinkum, just a few sentences but so much wrong. Some came to work, it is a shame they were working as Mercenaries Many came to Libya with the express purpose of moving onto Europe.  It's not that they are fleeing Libya, it is that Libya is no longer preventing them from invading Europe. We didn't bomb Libya. The article is 4 years old, why the delay in seeking "refuge?" [quote] Gaddafi, back in 2011, said that if Libya was taken over, a huge refugee crisis would happen and Europe would be flooded with Africans and terrorists.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b74_1441892689&comments=1#OcVKxS1e3jkMf1wJ.99

Gaddafi: Europe will 'turn black' unless EU pays Libya £4bn a year


Quote:

Col Muammar Gaddafi has warned that Europe runs the risk of turning "black" unless the EU pays Libya at least €5 billion (£4.1 billion) a year to block the arrival of illegal immigrants from Africa.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/7973649/Gaddafi-Europe-will-turn-black-unless-EU-pays-Libya-4bn-a-year.html

Re Honky

Well, it seemed like Gaddafi was right about that.   But African refugee through the Mid sea is not a huge problem on its own.  What is making the news now, is the combination of African refugees from Libya, AND those from Syria, Afghanistan is the problem.

As to why its an issue now, e.g. 4 year delay.  Soon after Libya's formal goverment was toppled, there was hope both from its people and the West of a new stable government.   

Elections for a General National Congress were held in July 2012, the country's first free national election in six decades. The congress appointed a prime minister, Ali Zeidan, in October, who formed an interim government tasked with preparing the ground for a new constitution and fresh parliamentary elections.

However, tensions between nationalists and Islamists have stymied attempts to produce a stable government, and in 2014 the country was riven by fighting between rival militias. Central government collapsed, and the United Nations has struggled to bring political factions together.

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 3:08pm:

But African refugee through the Mid sea is not a huge problem on its own.  What is making the news now, is the combination of African refugees from Libya, AND those from Syria, Afghanistan is the problem.

And yet the mainstream media wants to group them all together as "Syrians", while doing their best to focus on the few women and children in the hordes of young men.  They wouldn't be so deceptive, unless they needed to be.

... wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 3:23pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 3:08pm: But African refugee through the Mid sea is not a huge problem on its own.  What is making the news now, is the combination of African refugees from Libya, AND those from Syria, Afghanistan is the problem. And yet the mainstream media wants to group them all together as "Syrians", while doing their best to focus on the few women and children in the hordes of young men.  They wouldn't be so deceptive, unless they needed to be.

I think the media is referring to the refugee that recently arrived in Hungary and Croatia, which are mainly Syrians.   As to the Med Sea drowning death, I believe this had been recurring for many years. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_migrant_vessel_incidents_on_the_Mediterranean_Sea

As to why, it seemed that everyone is arriving now?  I highly recommend the book "The tipping point", and it explain basically principle of human behavior and horde mentality. 

:)

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 3:30pm:

... wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 3:23pm: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 3:08pm: But African refugee through the Mid sea is not a huge problem on its own.  What is making the news now, is the combination of African refugees from Libya, AND those from Syria, Afghanistan is the problem. And yet the mainstream media wants to group them all together as "Syrians", while doing their best to focus on the few women and children in the hordes of young men.  They wouldn't be so deceptive, unless they needed to be. I think the media is referring to the refugee that recently arrived in Hungary and Croatia, which are mainly Syrians.   As to the Med Sea drowning death, I believe this had been recurring for many years.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_migrant_vessel_incidents_on_the_Mediterranean_Sea As to why, it seemed that everyone is arriving now?  I highly recommend the book "The tipping point", and it explain basically principle of human behavior and horde mentality.  :)

I know why everyone is arriving now.  The same reason wildebeest cross crocodile infested rivers in huge numbers. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlUJUZ8By9Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHCYJWLeLQ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUJNxRqrcyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ESNukZu7lM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHyxyEl5hz0

athos wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 4:34pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHCYJWLeLQ8

At last you're beginning to acknowledge the threat, Athos.

Be aware that you are now regarded by 'decent people' as being a 'mean-spirited' alarmist bigot who is suffering from Islamophobia, xenophobia, and sensationalism.

Welcome to the club. 

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 6:16pm:

athos wrote on Sep 22nd, 2015 at 4:34pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHCYJWLeLQ8 At last you're beginning to acknowledge the threat, Athos. Be aware that you are now regarded by 'decent people' as being a 'mean-spirited' alarmist bigot who is suffering from Islamophobia, xenophobia, and sensationalism. Welcome to the club.

Did I say something?.

Multicultural harmony is starting. Tolerant Muslims are leaving their outdated, alien views at the European borders and enter as returning prodigious sons, true Europeans - enlightened, tolerant, secular at last:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5b1_1442808971


NOT.

athos wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 4:34pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHCYJWLeLQ8

Ah, British common sense.

ANd if the UK leaves the EU, it's all over.



The EU is all over anyway, it will not survive this influx of illegal immigrants. It's a question of who is going to jump first.   I hope it's the UK, but it might be a smaller player. The idea of political union is dead. There is NO political union.

Thank you, hordes, there is a silver lining in the otherwise unmitigated disaster that you bring.

Things are happening so quickly and unpredictable.
It is amazing how Soviet Union was disintegrated over the night.
But more incredible is to watch how European civilization is collapsing in front of our eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWAIKoatWM&feature=youtu.be&t=109

German police woman

http://www4.slikomat.com/13/0920/bjq-Nemack.jpg

Only another Adolph Hitler could save Germany now.  ;D

innocentbystander. wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 12:23pm:

Only another Adolph Hitler could save Germany now.  ;D

Or the end of the world as we know it. 

The end of the world as we know it isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Putin saved Russia, maybe he can save Germany as well.

athos wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 11:20am:

German police woman http://www4.slikomat.com/13/0920/bjq-Nemack.jpg

Australian police:


http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/10/05/1225934/546793-trg-raid.jpg


What's your point?

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/10/05/1225934/546793-trg-raid.jpg





Dressed for World War Three only to be faced by yet another drug f%cked lunatic with just his dick in his hand.  ;D

many blessings ,

food for thought ..

http://golden-dawn-international-newsroom.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-genocide-of.html

The Coudenhove-Kalergi plan - The genocide of the Peoples of Europe

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V6Zj6FlqcmI/UOD30r1VttI/AAAAAAAAAqc/SsFIX2SxUKM/s1600/sgstg__article.png

This article is a translation of an Italian article, originally posted on Identità.

Mass immigration is a phenomenon, the causes of which are still cleverly concealed by the system, and the multicultural propaganda is trying to falsely portray it as inevitable. With this article we intend to prove once and for all, that this is not a spontaneous phenomenon. What they want to present as an inevitable outcome of modern life, is actually a plan conceived around a table and prepared for decades, to completely destroy the face of the continent.



The Pan-Europe
  Few people know that one of the main initiators of the process of European integration, was also the man who designed the genocide plan of the Peoples of Europe. It is a dark person, whose existence is unknown to the masses, but the elite considers him as the founder of the European Union. His name is Richard Coudenhove Kalergi. His father was an Austrian diplomat named Heinrich von Coudenhove-Kalergi (with connections to the Byzantine family of the Kallergis) and his mother the Japanese Mitsu Aoyama. Kalergi, thanks to his close contacts with all European aristocrats and politicians, due to the relationships of his nobleman-diplomat father, and by moving behind the scenes, away from the glare of publicity, he managed to attract the most important heads of state to his plan , making them supporters and collaborators for the "project of European integration".

In 1922 he founded the "Pan-European" movement in Vienna, which aimed to create a New World Order, based on a federation of nations led by the United States. European integration would be the first step in creating a world government. Among the first supporters, including Czech politicians Tomáš Masaryk and Edvard Beneš and the banker Max Warburg, who invested the first 60,000 marks. The Austrian Chancellor Ignaz Seipel and the next president of Austria, Karl Renner, took the responsibility for leading the "Pan-European" movement. Later, French politicians, such as Léon Bloum, Aristide Briand,  Alcide De Gasperi, etc will offer their help.

With the rise of Fascism in Europe, the project was abandoned and the "Pan-European" movement was forced to dissolve, but after the Second World War, Kalergi, thanks to frantic and tireless activity and the support of Winston Churchill, the Jewish Masonic Lodge B'nai B'rith and major newspapers like the New York Times, the plan manages to be accepted by the United States Government. The CIA later undertakes the completion of the project.

The essence of the Kalergi plan

In his book «Praktischer Idealismus», Kalergi indicates that the residents of the future "United States of Europe" will not be the People of the Old Continent, but a kind of sub-humans, products of miscegenation. He clearly states that the peoples of Europe should interbreed with Asians and colored races, thus creating a multinational flock with no quality and easily controlled by the ruling elite.

Kalergi proclaims the abolition of the right of self-determination and then the elimination of nations with the use of ethnic separatist movements and mass migration. In order for Europe to be controlled by an elite, he wants to turn people into one homogeneous mixed breed of Blacks, Whites and Asians. Who is is this elite however? Kalergi is particularly illuminating on this: 

The man of the future will be of mixed race. The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-negroid race of the future, similar in appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples and the diversity of individuals. Instead of destroying European Judaism, Europe, against her will, refined and educated this people, driving them to their future status as a leading nation through this artificial evolutionary process. It's not surprising that the people that escaped from the Ghetto-Prison, became the spiritual nobility of Europe. Thus, the compassionate care given by Europe created a new breed of aristocrats. This happened when the European feudal aristocracy crashed because of the emancipation of the Jews [due to the actions taken by the French Revolution]
 
Although no textbook mentions Kalergi, his ideas are the guiding principles of the European Union. The belief that the peoples of Europe should be mixed with Africans and Asians, to destroy our identity and create a single mestizo race, is the basis of all community policies that aim to protect minorities. Not for humanitarian reasons, but because of the directives issued by the ruthless Regime that machinates the greatest genocide in history. The Coudenhove-Kalergi European Prize is awarded every two years to Europeans who have excelled in promoting this criminal plan. Among those awarded with such a prize are Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy.
 

continued..

The incitement to genocide, is also the basis of the constant appeals of the United Nations, that demands we accept millions of immigrants to help with the low birth rates of the EU. According to a report published on January 2000 in «Population division» Review of the United Nations in New York, under the title "Immigration replacement: A solution to declining and aging population," Europe will need by 2025 159,000,000 migrants.

One could wonder how there can be such accuracy on the estimates of immigration, although it was not a premeditated plan. It is certain that the low birth rate could easily be reversed with appropriate measures to support families. It is just as clear that it is the contribution of foreign genes do not protect our genetic heritage, but that it enables their disappearance. The sole purpose of these measures is to completely distort our people, to turn them into a group of people without national, historical and cultural cohesion. In short, the policies of the Kalergi plan was and still is, the basis of official government policies aimed at genocide of the Peoples of Europe, through mass immigration. G. Brock Chisholm, former director of the World Health Organization (OMS), proves that he has learned the lesson of Kalergi well when he says: "What people in all places have to do is to limit of birthrates and promote mixed marriages (between different races), this aims to create a single race in a world which will be directed by a central authority. "

... wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 2:00pm:

The end of the world as we know it isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Only if you survive it.

innocentbystander. wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 12:23pm:

Only another Adolph Hitler could save Germany now.  ;D

He is coming.

http://www.infowars.com/report-musli...-refugee-camp/

REPORT: MUSLIM MIGRANTS RAPING WOMEN & CHILDREN AT GERMAN REFUGEE CAMP
Women allegedly forced into prostitution

by PAUL JOSEPH WATSON

An explosive document released by top social welfare organizations in Germany reveals evidence that migrants at a refugee camp in Hessen are raping women and children, while also allegedly forcing women into prostitution.

The document was made public by LFR (Landesfrauenrat) Hessen, Der Paritätische Hessen, Pro Familia Hessen and the Landesarbeitsgemeinschaft Hessischer Frauenbüros.

It asserts that women and children at a migrant camp in Hessen are being sexually molested by Muslim “refugees” on such a regular basis that they are afraid to go to the bathroom at night and have to remain fully clothed when they sleep.

Women who are not accompanied by men are considered easy prey, with some allegedly being forced into prostitution. The groups behind the letter are calling for women and children to be segregated from male migrants.

Infowars talked to German correspondent Alexander Benesch who translated the document and confirmed its content.

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“This is an open letter from a few big organizations to the government of Hessen (one of the 16 regional parts of Germany),” wrote Benesch. “It is about an internment facility in Hessen where they initially put the refugees for further processing. It mentions a lack of security for women and children, leading to rape, molestation and (reportedly but not verified) forced prostitution.”

Benesch added that the groups who released the document, “count among the biggest organizations of their kind,” and that Pro Familia Hessen is a “household name” in Germany.

“Mainstream media coverage of this is scarce, because it embarrasses the government of Hessen and it embarrasses Berlin,” said Benesch.

The story has been covered by Hessenschau.de and Deutschelandfunk.de.

The document directly challenges the media narrative behind the refugee crisis, which has refused to acknowledge any of the negative aspects of allowing potentially millions of Muslim migrants to settle in Europe.

Last week, a 7-year-old girl was raped by a north African migrant in a German park, a story that has received little media attention.

Since nearby Sweden opened its doors to mass immigration, the country has become the rape capital of the west, with cases skyrocketing by 1400%. Around 77.6% of the rapists are identified as “foreigners”.

As we reported last week, a school in Germany which turned over its nearby gymnasium to house migrants is warning girls not to wear shorts or skirts so as not to offend migrants and provoke “attacks”.

Germany plans to accept 800,000 migrants before the end of the year. In what many complained was a measure that should have been implemented weeks ago, the country re-imposed border controls yesterday.

The video below, which has received over a million views on YouTube despite being “age-restricted,” reveals a dark side to the behavior of the migrants that is not being broadcast on major western TV networks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV315xqbRK8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-30gF6WB-GY

If 75 per cent of the Titanic's survivors had been men who'd left their women and children back on the ship, there might have been a few disapproving comments. But not here. And why complain that the Syrian refugees aren't really "refugees"? After all, they're not Syrian either. Only one in five of the arriving migrants are Syrians fleeing the implosion of their country.

European Suicide

'When you side with evil the award is your hell'.

By Andrew Phillips

The Western part of the EU now has a choice: to accept mass Islamization and so complete the renunciation of its Christian history, as its atheists have already mentally done, or to bring back peace to Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and resettle the Muslim millions back in their homes, which is what they want.

First of all, mass immigration has been rejected by Central and Eastern Europe, not just by Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Lands, but also by the Baltics, Slovenia and Poland, which has had to face mass emigration from Ukrainians fleeing the US and EU-instigated war in the Ukraine. EU-Croatia does not want the refugees either, it is simply allowing them to pass through, not to stay. As for Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria and Romania, none of the refugees wants to settle in these countries that are poverty-stricken by the EU, let alone in Non-EU Macedonia, which is already being torn apart by the Muslim invasion from Albania, and NATO-bombed Serbia with all its Serbian refugees from Croatia and Kosovo.

All these former Communist-bloc countries are quite right to hand on the refugees – their countries have not been responsible for this new Muslim invasion – Western Europe has been responsible. Who is paying for the billions of dollars of arms with which the war in Syria is being fought? Who is paying for this murderous conflict that is being played out on the borders of Armageddon? Who is making and supplying the arms for these fanatics to murder with? Who bombed Yugoslavia? Who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? Who bombed Libya? It is not Eastern and Central Europe, it is the Western world that is responsible. At this moment US aircraft and British bombs are slaughtering the people of Yemen. The West always has money for bombs to destroy, but not to feed poor refugees from Western-instigated wars.

Now Germany has to pay the price for its co-destruction of Yugoslavia and the foundation of Muslim states there. If Yugoslavia still existed, the refugees would not be able to pass through its former territory and head for Germany. War in Yugoslavia happened twenty years ago – but the consequences are now. Sooner or later you have to pay for your errors – the chickens always come home to roost. It is called responsibility, responsibility for the injustices that you have committed in the past.

Mass immigration is causing division in the EU – already the Schengen agreement is in tatters. This could be the moment when parts of Eastern Europe, especially Hungary and Slovakia, finally turn their backs on the disastrous EU and join the EEU, the Eurasian Economic Union, together with Serbia, Montenegro and Moldova – if those countries can find the courage to overturn their home-grown traitors who are willing to hand over their countries to NATO tyranny. Thanks to Communism, ironically, these countries had kept their national identity and sovereignty; under EU tyranny they have to lose them. The time for them to choose is coming – to surrender your national identity to so-called ‘multiculturalism’, as have Western European countries, or to keep it by turning to the protection of Sovereign Russia.

The Western part of the EU now has a choice: to accept mass Islamization and so complete the renunciation of its Christian history, as its atheists have already mentally done, or to bring back peace to Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and resettle the Muslim millions back in their homes, which is what they want. But this would be to admit that the West caused the problems in those countries in the first place. This would be a noble act of repentance, but the Western elite is too proud to carry it out.
The Western elite is always capable of making war – but quite unable to make peace. This is because of its essentially anti-Christian, aggressive and destructive nature. Only a rising of ordinary Western people, crushed for so long by its elite, and aided from outside, can make a difference now.


http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/hp.php

Very interesting Athos but I don't see that admitting mistakes like Iraq for instance means surrendering to The Invasion as a repentance, do you?

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:36am:

Very interesting Athos but I don't see that admitting mistakes like Iraq for instance means surrendering to The Invasion as a repentance, do you?

Possibly you are right, but definitely admitting the facts is the first step towards a progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXe4gy_ABf8&feature=youtu.be&t=6

And did anyone see the story about the German nurse turfed out of her flat so it could be used for refugees? I think she was living there about 15 years.
In the Mail I think I saw it.

athos wrote on Sep 25^th, 2015 at 11:23am:

European Suicide 'When you side with evil the award is your hell'. By Andrew Phillips The Western part of the EU now has a choice: to accept mass Islamization and so complete the renunciation of its Christian history, as its atheists have already mentally done, or to bring back peace to Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and resettle the Muslim millions back in their homes, which is what they want. First of all, mass immigration has been rejected by Central and Eastern Europe, not just by Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Lands, but also by the Baltics, Slovenia and Poland, which has had to face mass emigration from Ukrainians fleeing the US and EU-instigated war in the Ukraine. EU-Croatia does not want the refugees either, it is simply allowing them to pass through, not to stay. As for Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria and Romania, none of the refugees wants to settle in these countries that are poverty-stricken by the EU, let alone in Non-EU Macedonia, which is already being torn apart by the Muslim invasion from Albania, and NATO-bombed Serbia with all its Serbian refugees from Croatia and Kosovo. All these former Communist-bloc countries are quite right to hand on the refugees – their countries have not been responsible for this new Muslim invasion – Western Europe has been responsible. Who is paying for the billions of dollars of arms with which the war in Syria is being fought? Who is paying for this murderous conflict that is being played out on the borders of Armageddon? Who is making and supplying the arms for these fanatics to murder with? Who bombed Yugoslavia? Who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? Who bombed Libya? It is not Eastern and Central Europe, it is the Western world that is responsible. At this moment US aircraft and British bombs are slaughtering the people of Yemen. The West always has money for bombs to destroy, but not to feed poor refugees from Western-instigated wars. Now Germany has to pay the price for its co-destruction of Yugoslavia and the foundation of Muslim states there. If Yugoslavia still existed, the refugees would not be able to pass through its former territory and head for Germany. War in Yugoslavia happened twenty years ago – but the consequences are now. Sooner or later you have to pay for your errors – the chickens always come home to roost. It is called responsibility, responsibility for the injustices that you have committed in the past. Mass immigration is causing division in the EU – already the Schengen agreement is in tatters. This could be the moment when parts of Eastern Europe, especially Hungary and Slovakia, finally turn their backs on the disastrous EU and join the EEU, the Eurasian Economic Union, together with Serbia, Montenegro and Moldova – if those countries can find the courage to overturn their home-grown traitors who are willing to hand over their countries to NATO tyranny. Thanks to Communism, ironically, these countries had kept their national identity and sovereignty; under EU tyranny they have to lose them. The time for them to choose is coming – to surrender your national identity to so-called ‘multiculturalism’, as have Western European countries, or to keep it by turning to the protection of Sovereign Russia. The Western part of the EU now has a choice: to accept mass Islamization and so complete the renunciation of its Christian history, as its atheists have already mentally done, or to bring back peace to Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and resettle the Muslim millions back in their homes, which is what they want. But this would be to admit that the West caused the problems in those countries in the first place. This would be a noble act of repentance, but the Western elite is too proud to carry it out. The Western elite is always capable of making war – but quite unable to make peace. This is because of its essentially anti-Christian, aggressive and destructive nature. Only a rising of ordinary Western people, crushed for so long by its elite, and aided from outside, can make a difference now. http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/hp.php

The article is a bit loose with the truth in regards to Western countries invading. Which countries is he specially referring to?

It's like blaming the entire East Asian region for what the Japs did in WWII.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

athos wrote on Sep 25th, 2015 at 11:23am: European Suicide 'When you side with evil the award is your hell'. By Andrew Phillips The Western part of the EU now has a choice: to accept mass Islamization and so complete the renunciation of its Christian history, as its atheists have already mentally done, or to bring back peace to Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and resettle the Muslim millions back in their homes, which is what they want. First of all, mass immigration has been rejected by Central and Eastern Europe, not just by Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Lands, but also by the Baltics, Slovenia and Poland, which has had to face mass emigration from Ukrainians fleeing the US and EU-instigated war in the Ukraine. EU-Croatia does not want the refugees either, it is simply allowing them to pass through, not to stay. As for Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria and Romania, none of the refugees wants to settle in these countries that are poverty-stricken by the EU, let alone in Non-EU Macedonia, which is already being torn apart by the Muslim invasion from Albania, and NATO-bombed Serbia with all its Serbian refugees from Croatia and Kosovo. All these former Communist-bloc countries are quite right to hand on the refugees – their countries have not been responsible for this new Muslim invasion – Western Europe has been responsible. Who is paying for the billions of dollars of arms with which the war in Syria is being fought? Who is paying for this murderous conflict that is being played out on the borders of Armageddon? Who is making and supplying the arms for these fanatics to murder with? Who bombed Yugoslavia? Who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? Who bombed Libya? It is not Eastern and Central Europe, it is the Western world that is responsible. At this moment US aircraft and British bombs are slaughtering the people of Yemen. The West always has money for bombs to destroy, but not to feed poor refugees from Western-instigated wars. Now Germany has to pay the price for its co-destruction of Yugoslavia and the foundation of Muslim states there. If Yugoslavia still existed, the refugees would not be able to pass through its former territory and head for Germany. War in Yugoslavia happened twenty years ago – but the consequences are now. Sooner or later you have to pay for your errors – the chickens always come home to roost. It is called responsibility, responsibility for the injustices that you have committed in the past. Mass immigration is causing division in the EU – already the Schengen agreement is in tatters. This could be the moment when parts of Eastern Europe, especially Hungary and Slovakia, finally turn their backs on the disastrous EU and join the EEU, the Eurasian Economic Union, together with Serbia, Montenegro and Moldova – if those countries can find the courage to overturn their home-grown traitors who are willing to hand over their countries to NATO tyranny. Thanks to Communism, ironically, these countries had kept their national identity and sovereignty; under EU tyranny they have to lose them. The time for them to choose is coming – to surrender your national identity to so-called ‘multiculturalism’, as have Western European countries, or to keep it by turning to the protection of Sovereign Russia. The Western part of the EU now has a choice: to accept mass Islamization and so complete the renunciation of its Christian history, as its atheists have already mentally done, or to bring back peace to Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and resettle the Muslim millions back in their homes, which is what they want. But this would be to admit that the West caused the problems in those countries in the first place. This would be a noble act of repentance, but the Western elite is too proud to carry it out. The Western elite is always capable of making war – but quite unable to make peace. This is because of its essentially anti-Christian, aggressive and destructive nature. Only a rising of ordinary Western people, crushed for so long by its elite, and aided from outside, can make a difference now. http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/hp.php The article is a bit loose with the truth in regards to Western countries invading. Which countries is he specially referring to?

You can go on this web site and ask him this question. He is a nice English gentleman.
http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/hp.php[/quote]

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 8:43am:

And did anyone see the story about the German nurse turfed out of her flat so it could be used for refugees? I think she was living there about 15 years. In the Mail I think I saw it.

German nurse shocked after being forced out of flat to make way for refugees

http://www.rt.com/news/316568-germany-nurse-eviction-refugees/

Having lived in the same flat for 16 years, a German woman is being forced to move out to make way for refugees, because building a new shelter is too expensive. The 51 year-old nurse, who has helped asylum seekers in the past, was shocked by the news.
Bettina Halbey, who lives alone in the small town of Nieheim, received a letter from her landlord and the local municipality at the start of September, Die Welt newspaper reported on Thursday.

“I was completely shocked and I can’t even begin to find the words to describe how the city has treated me,” Halbey told the German publication. “I have had to go through a lot of difficulties recently, and then I get this notice. It was like a kick in the teeth.”

Halbey will have until May 2016 to find a new place to live, along with her dog and her cat. The three-story building, where she rented a 90 sq/m flat will now be turned into accommodation for refugees, who are seeking to make Germany their new home.

The mayor of Nieheim, Rainer Vidal, which has a population of just over 6,000, defended the decision to send the nurse packing, saying converting the building would be “the cheapest option.”

“A new residential unit for 30 refugees in Nieheim would cost €30,000 ($33,600). This solution will cost me nothing,” he told Die Welt.

Over half the population of Germany lives in rented accommodation and the country has laws to defend the rights of tenants.

“Normally, only a private individual can terminate the terms of a contract for personal use. A municipality cannot move into a flat as a legal entity, so the process is legally highly questionable,” Ulrich Ropertz, spokesman of the German Tenants' Federation, told the Telegraph.

Halbey, who brought up two sons as a single parent, became so incensed by the decision that she wrote about her plight on Facebook. The social media reaction was instant. Over 200,000 people have shared her story, which was also picked up by the German media.

The nurse says that she is not against Germany taking in refugees and she says she got on well with asylum seekers who had earlier become her neighbors.

“We take care of each other. Helping people, this is of the utmost importance to me,” Halbey said.

Mayor Vidal slammed Halbey for going public with her complaints and added that she had been given ample time to find new accommodation.

"I find it very regrettable that the tenant has sought to go public with her issues. We have given her a generous period of notice, up until May of next year. We are also willing to help her find a new place to live. There have been several opportunities, but each one has failed because no one wants to offer her a flat because of her dog,” Vidal said.

On Thursday, the German government agreed to allocate a further €2 billion ($2.24 billion) for refugee housing, with €500 million ($560 million) to be spent on the construction of new accommodation centers. Local authorities have also implemented their own strategies, such as Hamburg’s plans to turn empty commercial properties into shelters, while empty apartments could serve the same purpose in Berlin.

Germany could receive between 800,000 and one million refugees this year, according to the UN, with an estimated 8,000 people arriving in Europe every day.

The price of Europe’s fecklessness

By David P. Goldman on September 7, 2015 in AT Top Writers, Spengler      

In Luis Bunuel’s eponymous 1961 film, the young postulant Viridiana leaves her convent to claim her uncle’s rural estate, and creates a refuge for local beggars. They ransack her house in a bachannalia staged to lampoon the Last Supper, and a couple of them rape her. The classic film should be mandatory viewing for European officials caught up in refugee euphoria. This is going to end very, very badly.

The Europeans, to be sure, are a pack of cynical hypocrites. If they had cared about Syrians, they might have sent a couple of brigades of soldiers to fight ISIS. But not a single European will risk his neck to prevent humanitarian catastrophe. The last time European soldiers got close to real trouble, in Srebrenica in 1995, Dutch peacekeepers stood aside while Bosnian Serbs massacred 8,000 Muslims.
...
The prospective size of the migrant stream to Europe, including economic migrants as well as war refugees from Africa, probably exceeds 100 million, or two orders of magnitude larger than the already very large number that Europe has agreed to accept.

Europe will have scenes of horror on its border: barbed wire, tear gas, rubber bullets, malnutrition and epidemic disease in tent camps swollen by millions of desperate people. It will also have acts of terrorism by refugees already inside its borders protesting Europe’s future refusal to accept more.
....

The combination of sectarian and ethnic violence in a multi-player civil war will push even more desperate people towards Europe. And that does not taken into account the potential for instability among the 330 million people of Pakistan and Bengladesh, many of whom live under desperate circumstances already.

The refugee problem can’t be solved at Europe’s borders; it only can be solved before it happens, by stabilizing the situation on the ground. But that would mean containing Iran’s ambitions and crushing the Sunni jihadists at the same time. Blood would spill, and not all of it local. The Europeans don’t think the Middle East is “worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier,” as Bismarck said of the Balkans. They will pay for their fecklessness many times over.
http://atimes.com/2015/09/the-price-of-europes-fecklessness/

How did the krauts go from gassing worthwhile people that were good for the country to handing over the country to the worthless dregs of society, Adolph will be rolling in his grave  ;D

innocentbystander. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 8:44pm:

How did the krauts go from gassing worthwhile people that were good for the country to handing over the country to the worthless dregs of society, Adolph will be rolling in his grave  ;D

yes, the germans did it last time ......... don't tell me they are concerned about gas emissions ?

Everything is possible.
Maybe this time Germans will reopen concentration caps, this time for African migrants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcltV7r-nM

Soren wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 6:28pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcltV7r-nM

Well if the western europeans want to be that STUPID and PLACID , and willing to bend there @***** over to be screwed by a third world muslim population to come over there and change things the way they want it.

Then the western europeans deserve what they get, as much as it hurts saying it.

stryder wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:20pm:

Well if the western europeans want to be that STUPID and PLACID , and willing to bend there @***** over to be screwed by a third world muslim population to come over there and change things the way they want it. Then the western europeans deserve what they get, as much as it hurts saying it.

Can't help but agree, but there is the domino principle we should be concerned about, the whole reason the yanks put so much time and energy into saving the useless European c%nts from communism was mainly to put a buffer in place, sure it will be hilarious watching the idiot Europeans getting converted to islam but the smile will soon wear off when you realise that we are next  :(