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[quote]Frontpage, by Raymond Ibrahim, August 19, 2015: Saudi Arabia recently preached to the international community about the need to confront “intolerance, extremism and human rights violations.” If this sounds surreal, consider the following excerpts from a July 26 report in the Saudi Gazette (emphasis added): Saudi Arabia has reiterated its call on the international community to criminalize any act vilifying religious beliefs and symbols of faith as well as all kinds of discrimination based on religion. Saudi Arabia wants Western cartoonists, comedians, and others—people who represent only their individual selves—to stop mocking the religious beliefs and symbols of Islam, even as the Arabian kingdom’s own institutionalized policy is to vilify and discriminate against the religious beliefs and symbols of all other faiths. Not a single non-Muslim worship building is allowed there; the highest Islamic authority decreed that it is “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region.”  Whenever Christians are suspected of meeting in a house for worship—or as one Saudi official once complained, “plotting to celebrate Christmas”—they are arrested and punished. Any cross or other non-Muslim symbol found is confiscated and destroyed. Anyone caught trying to smuggle Bibles or any other “publications that have prejudice to any other religious belief other than Islam” can be executed. In 2011, a Colombian soccer-player “was arrested by the Saudi moral police after customers in a Riyadh shopping mall expressed outrage over the sports player’s religious tattoos, which included the face of Jesus of Nazareth on his arm.”  In 2010 a Romanian player kissed the tattoo of a cross he had on his arm after scoring a goal, causing public outrage. And yet, Saudi Arabia has the unmitigated gall to ask the West—where Islam is freely practiced, where mosques and Korans proliferate, and where Muslims are granted full equality—to cease “discrimination based on religion.” Continues the Saudi Gazette: Addressing an international symposium on media coverage of religious symbols based on international law, which started in this French city on Saturday, a senior Saudi official said the Kingdom emphasized years ago that the international community must act urgently to confront ethnic, religious and cultural intolerance, which has become widespread in all communities and peoples of the world. Meanwhile, back in the real world, few countries exhibit as much “ethnic, religious and cultural intolerance” as does the Arabian kingdom.  Along with the aforementioned discrimination and intolerance against all other religions, Saudi Arabia is notoriously clannish and racist. Ten percent of the population is denied equal rights because of their race; back men are barred from holding many government positions; black women are often put on trial for “witchcraft”; castrated African slaves are sold on Facebook in the birthplace of Islam and its princes are known to beat their black slaves to death. Human Rights Watch has described conditions for foreign workers in Saudi Arabia as resembling slavery. Worse of all is if you’re black and Christian.  After 35 Christian Ethiopians were arrested and abused in prison for almost a year, simply for holding a private house prayer, one of them said after being released: “They [Saudis] are full of hatred towards non-Muslims.” This is unsurprising considering that the Saudi education system makes it a point to indoctrinate Muslim children with hatred, teaching that “the Apes are the people of the Sabbath, the Jews; and the Swine are the infidels of the communion of Jesus, the Christians.” According to Saudi novelist Hani Naqshabandi, “Our religious institutions do not give us room to exercise free thought….  They [Saudi institutions] said that the Christian is an infidel, a denizen of hell, an enemy to Allah and Islam.  So we said, ‘Allah’s curse on them.’” Again, bear in mind that all this is official Saudi policy—not the “free expressions” of individuals, which the Saudis are condemning as creating “ethnic, religious and cultural intolerance” around the world. The Saudi Gazette goes on to quote one Abdulmajeed Al-Omari, “a senior Saudi official.” Speaking at a recent international symposium in France which hosted representatives from 16 European nations, he said that Western “freedom of expression without limits or restrictions” are “abuses [that] bred intolerance, extremism and human rights violations…” Again, it bears reemphasizing that in the West individuals are free to express themselves.  And it’s just that—expression, not action (as in murder, terrorism, rape, enslavement, church bombings, or the slaughter of “apostates”). As for Western governments, thanks to political correctness, not only do they discourage freedom of expression but honest, objective talk concerning Islam is suppressed (hence every Western leader maintains that ISIS “has nothing to do with Islam,” AKA, “the religion of peace”). Meanwhile, it is precisely Islamic teachings that breed “intolerance, extremism and human rights violations,” and not just in Saudi Arabia but all throughout the Muslim world.  And it is precisely these teachings that prompt Western peoples to criticize Islam, including through cartoons. None of this is enough to embarrass the Saudis from their farce:

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Al-Omari said the Saudi participation in the symposium falls in line with its efforts to support the principles of justice, humanity, promotion of values and the principles of tolerance in the world as well as to emphasize the importance of respecting religions and religious symbols. Actually, because of Saudi Arabia’s absolute lack of “justice, humanity, promotion of values and the principles of tolerance,” even the U.S. State Department lists the home of Islam and Muhammad as one of eight “Countries of Particular Concern.” Thus in ultra-hypocritical manner, Saudi Arabia asks the international community to stop exercising freedom of expression—even as it openly and unapologetically persecutes, discriminates, and violates the most basic human rights of non-Muslims and non-Saudis on a daily basis. It still remains to determine which is more surreal, more unbelievable: that Saudi Arabia, which tops the charts of state-enforced religious intolerance and ethnic discrimination, is calling on the West “to confront ethnic, religious and cultural intolerance,” or that the West deigns to participate in such disgracefully hypocritical forums.

http://counterjihadreport.com/2015/08/19/saudi-arabia-the-worlds-greatest-hypocrite/

And the PC west deigns to this Muslim hypocrisy whilst the Saudis feign the right to some deluded moral high ground.

The house of Saud are some of the worst scum on the face of the planet, and their best friends are the Bush family in the US.

Yes they are .... & the Yanks are still asleep on the matter.

Perhaps deliberately

issuevoter wrote on Aug 28^th, 2015 at 8:55pm:

The house of Saud are some of the worst scum on the face of the planet, and their best friends are the Bush family in the US.

Just more fake morals.

Saudi Arabia is currently slaughtering civilians in air strikes against Yemen - with the full blessing and material support from the US.

All nations are hypocritical to some degree or other.  Be it Sweden or Australia or the United States of America or any other country.   Saudi Arabia is just looking outwards, it's easier than looking at itself and changing things for the better for it's own people.   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Do you even understand what you are fighting against?

The SYSTEM in Saudi Arabia is ISLAMIC.

Therefore, cartoons of Mohammed can be used to incite unrest against the SYSTEM.

The STATE SECURITY APPARATUS is there to protect the SYSTEM.

To protect the SYSTEM, offending ISLAM IS ILLEGAL.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

They are tolerant of all religions. And if you persecute Jews in Saudi Arabia they will come down on you with the full force of the law.

They are also an Israeli military ally.

easel wrote on Sep 4^th, 2015 at 2:21pm:

They are tolerant of all religions. And if you persecute Jews in Saudi Arabia they will come down on you with the full force of the law. They are also an Israeli military ally.

;D ;D ;D

Yeah, they are tolerant of all religions as long as they are not practiced in SA.
And you cannot enter Saudi with an Israeli passport.

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 29^th, 2015 at 8:19pm:

issuevoter wrote on Aug 28th, 2015 at 8:55pm: The house of Saud are some of the worst scum on the face of the planet, and their best friends are the Bush family in the US. Just more fake morals. Saudi Arabia is currently slaughtering civilians in air strikes against Yemen - with the full blessing and material support from the US.

No contest. Although I  don't see any morals, fake or whatever. I do see dollar signs.

As to easel's interpretation? Saudi Arabia is a piece of territory own by one family. Its like calling the US, the Obama States of America. As a family, they are no different to the European robber barons of the early history, who were perfectly happy to adopt any religion, just as long as it meant the church sanctioned them. You cannot compare Saud family law to the legislative process in modern Western democracies. Such relativism is not even worth use as toilet paper.

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 29^th, 2015 at 8:19pm:

Saudi Arabia is currently slaughtering civilians in air strikes against Yemen - with the full blessing and material support from the US.

Do you really think the USA could stop the Saudis from bombing their neighbors or supporting terrorists?

The Islamic state are in Yemen they are fighting the exact same shia the Saudis are fighting, the Saudis are aligned with IS in Yemen.

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 29^th, 2015 at 8:19pm:

slaughtering

Muslims love that word.  It suits their emotional incontinence and love of exaggeration.  They practically ululate over it.

Muslims in ISIS ARE actually slaughtering their enemies - beheading kneeling captives, burning captives in cages - but that has nuffin to do wiv nuffin'.

If the cocksuckers wanted to bomb someone Saudi Arabia was a good place to start as they are the source of most money supporting the jihadists, Osama et all

They are closely followed by Egypt

Nuke the flaming lot!

Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 29th, 2015 at 8:19pm: slaughtering Muslims love that word.  It suits their emotional incontinence and love of exaggeration.  They practically ululate over it. Muslims in ISIS ARE actually slaughtering their enemies - beheading kneeling captives, burning captives in cages - but that has nuffin to do wiv nuffin'.

Interesting. I'm pretty sure I could post a video of me burning the Quran in the middle of ISIS territory and you'd still manage to turn me into a spineless apologist for Islamists.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:39pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 7:08pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 29th, 2015 at 8:19pm: slaughtering Muslims love that word.  It suits their emotional incontinence and love of exaggeration.  They practically ululate over it. Muslims in ISIS ARE actually slaughtering their enemies - beheading kneeling captives, burning captives in cages - but that has nuffin to do wiv nuffin'. Interesting. I'm pretty sure I could post a video of me burning the Quran in the middle of ISIS territory and you'd still manage to turn me into a spineless apologist for Islamists.

But you're the standard bearer for modern Western liberal values, aren't you?

Apparently these are values you don't know you have - or something. It's all become frighfully complicated.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:39pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 7:08pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 29th, 2015 at 8:19pm: slaughtering Muslims love that word.  It suits their emotional incontinence and love of exaggeration.  They practically ululate over it. Muslims in ISIS ARE actually slaughtering their enemies - beheading kneeling captives, burning captives in cages - but that has nuffin to do wiv nuffin'. Interesting. I'm pretty sure I could post a video of me burning the Quran in the middle of ISIS territory and you'd still manage to turn me into a spineless apologist for Islamists.

You would burn the Koran, and maintain that you are a Muslim? Would you care to explain the contradiction?

We all blame Islam, Issue. G’s just joining in.

Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 11:03am:

easel wrote on Sep 4th, 2015 at 2:21pm: They are tolerant of all religions. And if you persecute Jews in Saudi Arabia they will come down on you with the full force of the law. They are also an Israeli military ally. ;D ;D ;D Yeah, they are tolerant of all religions as long as they are not practiced in SA. And you cannot enter Saudi with an Israeli passport.

Japan and South Korea hate each other in the media, in politics as well.

But if there is a war with North Korea and China they are on the same side.

If Japan and South Korea were best friends it would make diplomatic engagement with China difficult.

Israel and Saudi Arabia are on the same side in a war with Iran or anyone.

But, if in the hostile Muslim countries, where Israel is the demon against Islam, people thought that Saudi didn't have some sanctions against Israel, Saudi Arabia, as an Islamic kingdom, would have zero negotiating powers or credibility with countries that are not aligned with them already. Such as Syria. Or Iran. Or previously Iraq.

issuevoter wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 10:21pm:

You would burn the Koran, and maintain that you are a Muslim? Would you

No. Its a silly question that completely misses the point I was making.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 10:21pm: You would burn the Koran, and maintain that you are a Muslim? Would you No. Its a silly question that completely misses the point I was making.

Or perhaps you are confused about yourself, and your maybe religiosity.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 7:39pm:

Interesting. I'm pretty sure I could post a video of me burning the Quran in the middle of ISIS territory and you'd still manage to turn me into a spineless apologist for Islamists.

When a Florida pastor wanted to burn a Quran the Indonesian president said it could threaten world peace.

If you said a filthy kuffar s h a t  on the Quran perhaps they might let you burn that one.

If a Quran is damaged or incomplete then burning it is acceptable.