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Message started by Yadda on Aug 26th, 2015 at 9:42am

Title: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Yadda on Aug 26th, 2015 at 9:42am

"UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack"

http://www.meforum.org/5452/islamists-ashley-madison





British ISLAMIST preacher, Hamza Tzortzis.


Stone him.

ISLAM's system of law [Sharia] that states that fornicators should be whipped or beaten, and that adulterers should be put to death.


But why should British ISLAMIST preacher, Hamza Tzortzis, be put to death by stoning ?

Because, Mohammed was an adulterer too.

But none of the 'brothers' [for life] put Mohammed to death by stoning.



According to the [official ISLAMIC] record of his own actions,            Mohammed was clearly a fornicator [and an adulterer], in a legal system that condemns fornication and adultery.

Why wasn't Mohammed to death by stoning ?



MOHAMMED'S EXAMPLE.....



Quote:

"We went out with Allah's Messenger"
= = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women" = = it was some form of raiding party, where they, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them" = = hmmmm, i wonder what that means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives" = = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust.

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them." = = in their minds, they sought to sexually 'use' these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them.

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them" = = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.


Those [above] extracts from the Hadith are cited, with references, here;

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8




Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Stratos on Aug 26th, 2015 at 5:05pm
Yes quite a few religious leaders have been busted it seems.  He is claiming his phone was "hacked" with some kind of nuts conspiracy out to set him up.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/08/23/islamic-lecturer-hamza-tzortzis-explains-why-his-data-was-found-in-the-ashley-madison-hack/


Quote:
Important announcement: It has come to my attention that my details are on the Ashley Madison data leak. This includes my name, address, and bank card details.
This is an obvious case of fraud. My email address (this website doesn’t verify emails, and all the relevant emails went to junk) can be found online and so can my address, as it is linked to my business account, which is registered online. My date of birth is known from either previous lectures or Facebook. These types of online attacks are not uncommon, for example in the past year there have been multiple attempts to access my emails.
The first transaction took place last October after my trip to Hajj (pilgrimage). There have been subsequent transactions every month, not under the named site but a discrete label, which I believe is normal for such websites. I don’t check my bank statements because I have paperless statements, and it is something I haven’t made into a habit.
This is a serious matter of fraud or malice for which the bank and police have been informed. They will now pursue the matter further as a formal crime. I am not ruling anything out at the moment, including the possibility of my phone being illegally hacked. Retrospectively speaking, it has shown signs of being hacked.
It seems that the first transaction was made in Australia when I was there for lectures and courses. It could have been someone who knows me, someone who hates me, or a malicious person who found out who I was. It could be one person or two, they could be working locally, from abroad or both. At the moment I have no idea. But it is clear that they probably didn’t complete what they intended to do, as the data so far indicates that there was not much activity and/or dialogue that would have led to a meeting (although I’m getting a few people to go through the data, they haven’t given me the full details yet, so this is speculative).
My whereabouts and activities, both private and public are traceable and recorded, and there is without any doubt that I have not pursued such immoral acts that the site promotes (this includes permissible acts, for instance the endeavour to find another halal wife [who can also be a non-Muslim] who wanted to be with a married man, which is allowed in Islam). My face is recorded when I enter and leave work, and the gym (the main places I go to). My social and professional meetings are public, and with people that can honestly confirm my presence.
I’m trying to find answers to why someone would do this, and what they intended, as they seemed to have profiled me well and attempted to not be explicit about my identity. This was done maybe to expose me in the future by showing signs that I was deliberate discrete, who knows. Additionally, they obviously did not predict the leak.
Unfortunately, some people will have a field day. This is not my concern at all, there’s already a lot of slander and hate online about me. I have my suspicions and unanswered questions too. However, and most importantly, my concern is now with my family and their privacy. I would appreciate that you all respect that.
Thank you. May God bless you all and shower you all with His guidance, mercy and love.

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by moses on Aug 26th, 2015 at 5:31pm
As a righteous muslim you can be sure he only wanted Nikāḥ al-mutʿah

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by wally1 on Aug 26th, 2015 at 5:39pm
Didn't they catch a few Christian role models and speakers on that site yadda?

Bit of hypocrisy wouldn't you say yadda.

How come u don't post them up?

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Yadda on Aug 26th, 2015 at 8:15pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 26th, 2015 at 5:39pm:
Didn't they catch a few Christian role models and speakers on that site yadda?

Bit of hypocrisy wouldn't you say yadda.

How come u don't post them up?



wally,

You are correct.

I'm just a filthy kafir hypocrite.



"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110


I wish that i could be a virtuous person, but i am not a moslem,      ...i'm just a perverted transgressor.



Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by wally1 on Aug 26th, 2015 at 8:17pm
Your right your not virtuous.U got little credibility.

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Yadda on Aug 26th, 2015 at 8:29pm

Stratos wrote on Aug 26th, 2015 at 5:05pm:
Yes quite a few religious leaders have been busted it seems.  He is claiming his phone was "hacked" with some kind of nuts conspiracy out to set him up.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/08/23/islamic-lecturer-hamza-tzortzis-explains-why-his-data-was-found-in-the-ashley-madison-hack/


Quote:
Important announcement: It has come to my attention that my details are on the Ashley Madison data leak. This includes my name, address, and bank card details.
This is an obvious case of fraud. My email address (this website doesn’t verify emails, and all the relevant emails went to junk) can be found online and so can my address, as it is linked to my business account, which is registered online. My date of birth is known from either previous lectures or Facebook. These types of online attacks are not uncommon, for example in the past year there have been multiple attempts to access my emails.
The first transaction took place last October after my trip to Hajj (pilgrimage). There have been subsequent transactions every month, not under the named site but a discrete label, which I believe is normal for such websites. I don’t check my bank statements because I have paperless statements, and it is something I haven’t made into a habit.
This is a serious matter of fraud or malice for which the bank and police have been informed. They will now pursue the matter further as a formal crime. I am not ruling anything out at the moment, including the possibility of my phone being illegally hacked. Retrospectively speaking, it has shown signs of being hacked.
It seems that the first transaction was made in Australia when I was there for lectures and courses. It could have been someone who knows me, someone who hates me, or a malicious person who found out who I was. It could be one person or two, they could be working locally, from abroad or both. At the moment I have no idea. But it is clear that they probably didn’t complete what they intended to do, as the data so far indicates that there was not much activity and/or dialogue that would have led to a meeting (although I’m getting a few people to go through the data, they haven’t given me the full details yet, so this is speculative).
My whereabouts and activities, both private and public are traceable and recorded, and there is without any doubt that I have not pursued such immoral acts that the site promotes (this includes permissible acts, for instance the endeavour to find another halal wife [who can also be a non-Muslim] who wanted to be with a married man, which is allowed in Islam). My face is recorded when I enter and leave work, and the gym (the main places I go to). My social and professional meetings are public, and with people that can honestly confirm my presence.
I’m trying to find answers to why someone would do this, and what they intended, as they seemed to have profiled me well and attempted to not be explicit about my identity. This was done maybe to expose me in the future by showing signs that I was deliberate discrete, who knows. Additionally, they obviously did not predict the leak.
Unfortunately, some people will have a field day. This is not my concern at all, there’s already a lot of slander and hate online about me. I have my suspicions and unanswered questions too. However, and most importantly, my concern is now with my family and their privacy. I would appreciate that you all respect that.
Thank you. May God bless you all and shower you all with His guidance, mercy and love.



LOL

An insistent denial, of any wrongdoing ??

From a moslem !!!!

LOL




Even when they are caught 'red handed' moslems never admit to wrongdoing, ALWAYS claim they are an innocent party.



AND THE EXAMPLE OF OUR VERY OWN CATMEAT SHIEK   ---------- >



"There is a trick in this film/camera!"

WATCH THE EVIDENCE OF THIS SHAMELESS, LYING MOSLEM....

Re Sheik Hilali,
PLEASE WATCH THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO.....

Sheik Hilaly Caught vandalizing his own Mosque
                 goto 5m 55s,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9O5KPI4qTI



.




ANOTHER 'INNOCENT' moslem that comes readily to mind ----- >


Google;
carnita matthews


Google;
Carnita Matthews false complaint against racist Sydney policeman


Google;
Fake Anti-Muslim Hate Crimes and Other Lies



Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 26th, 2015 at 8:30pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 26th, 2015 at 8:17pm:
You're right you're not virtuous. U got little credibility.



"little"?

That suggests that he has at least some credibility.

Can you substantiate that claim?


Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by |dev|null on Aug 27th, 2015 at 12:48pm
Interesting how everybody assumes people use their real names on such websites...   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Stratos on Aug 27th, 2015 at 1:44pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2015 at 12:48pm:
Interesting how everybody assumes people use their real names on such websites...   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D


Real name, real home address, real credit card details (including the numbers on the back apparently)

Real payments appearing monthly on his bank statement too that he failed to notice for quite a long time

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by |dev|null on Aug 27th, 2015 at 3:34pm

Stratos wrote on Aug 27th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2015 at 12:48pm:
Interesting how everybody assumes people use their real names on such websites...   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D


Real name, real home address, real credit card details (including the numbers on the back apparently)

Real payments appearing monthly on his bank statement too that he failed to notice for quite a long time


You have evidence of that?  If so, please present it.  Otherwise, keep your Islamophobia under control!   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by moses on Aug 27th, 2015 at 4:12pm
He has claimed that those who leave Islam "should be killed" and has argued that beheading is painless. He has also argued in favour of setting up an Islamic caliphate.

He told his 92,000 Facebook fans yesterday:


It has come to my attention that my details are on the Ashley Madison data leak. This includes my name, address, and bank card details.

This is an obvious case of fraud. My email address (this website doesn't verify emails, and all the relevant emails went to junk) can be found online and so can my address, as it is linked to my business account, which is registered online. My date of birth is known from either previous lectures or Facebook. These types of online attacks are not uncommon, for example in the past year there have been multiple attempts to access my emails.


Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Stratos on Aug 27th, 2015 at 4:19pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2015 at 3:34pm:
You have evidence of that?  If so, please present it.


I already did, when I posted Hamza's own statement.

He himself acknowledges the details that are there in the very first line of what I previously posted.


Quote:
It has come to my attention that my details are on the Ashley Madison data leak. This includes my name, address, and bank card details.



|dev|null wrote on Aug 27th, 2015 at 3:34pm:
Otherwise, keep your Islamophobia under control

::)

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by |dev|null on Aug 28th, 2015 at 12:37pm
Still no actual evidence linking him to the Ashley Madison account.  Just circumstantial evidence.   ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Stratos on Aug 28th, 2015 at 3:11pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 28th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
Still no actual evidence linking him to the Ashley Madison account.


Lots of evidence actually.  Hamza has admitted this.

We'll have to wait until they leak more details I guess until we know for sure.

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by double plus good on Aug 28th, 2015 at 3:16pm
removed

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Pho Huc on Aug 28th, 2015 at 4:18pm
Religious leader exposed as hypocrite.
Put him on the extensive list.
Then get over it.

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by wally1 on Aug 28th, 2015 at 4:32pm
Muslim on dating website-bad
Any other religion-no comment

Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by Yadda on Aug 28th, 2015 at 5:55pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 28th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

Muslim on dating website-bad



Any other religion-no comment



Yeah, everyone knows that Christians are hypocrites who believe that God has children, and that the Jews are evil invaders of Allah's Palestine.

But wally1, this Hamza Tzortzis is a self declared moslem.




And Allah, who is never in error, has declared that the moslem is a faultless human being, who is always doing what is correct, and forbidding what is wrong.


"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110


wally1,

I really wish that i could be a virtuous person too.

But i am not a moslem,      ...i'm just a perverted transgressor of God's law.



So what is it wally1 ?

-------- >

Is the Koran a corrupt and error ridden book ?

Or did Allah [in error] mis-speak, about the virtue of the moslem people ?




Or, is Hamza Tzortzis simply another moslem impersonator ?

Coz, there seems to be a lot of them about,      ....moslem impersonators, who are always bringing Allah's perfect, peace-loving religion, into disrepute.




------------ >

IMAGE...


"BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET"

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.


'Aussie' moslems on a Sydney street, openly demonstrating and exposing to public view, the violent religious bigotry which ISLAM, has put into their hearts.

'Aussie' moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion'.

Demanding the 'religious freedom', to kill people who offend them, because they do not believe as they [moslems] believe.



< ---------    Those 'Aussie' moslems are engaging in the commission of a HATE CRIME,       on 'MAIN ST', Australia!!!

Those 'Aussie' moslems are inciting cultural and political hatred and cultural and political violence,      against all Australians [i.e. against the government, of the people of Australia].

And those 'Aussie' moslems are engaged in this type of incitement, inter-cultural and political hatred,    simply because many of us, are not moslems, and because Australians do not share the views and opinions of 'Aussie' moslems.




.





IMAGE....


"Behead those who insult ISLAM"
Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.






Title: Re: UK Islamist Leader Exposed in Ashley Madison Hack
Post by wally1 on Aug 28th, 2015 at 6:44pm
Whatever yadda,not sure how you made a connection between a Sydney protest and a overseas website.

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