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American service members used in chemical and biological testing have some questions: What exactly were they exposed to? And how is it affecting their health? Tens of thousands of troops were used in testing conducted by the U.S. military between 1922 and 1975. As one Army scientist explained, the military wanted to learn how to induce symptoms such as "fear, panic, hysteria, and hallucinations" in enemy soldiers. Recruitment was done on a volunteer basis, but the details of the testing and associated risks were often withheld from those who signed up. Many of the veterans who served as test subjects have since died. But today, those who are still alive are part of a class action lawsuit against the Army. If they're successful, the Army will have to explain to anyone who was used in testing exactly what substances they were given and any known risks. The Army would also have to provide those veterans with health care for any illnesses that result, in whole or in part, from the testing. The law firm representing the veterans estimates at least 70,000 troops were used in the testing, including World War II veterans exposed to mustard gas, whom NPR reported on earlier this summer. Bill Blazinski has chronic lymphocytic leukemia, which he thinks may have been caused by the military tests. He was 20 years old and had just graduated from boot camp when he volunteered in 1968. "There would be a guaranteed three-day pass every weekend unless you had a test," he says. "There would be no kitchen police duties, no guard duties. And it sounded like a pretty good duty." What sounded more like a vacation than military duty quickly changed, he says. In one test, doctors said they would inject him with an agent and its antidote back to back. "We were placed in individual padded cells. And you know the nurse left and I'm looking at this padded wall and I knew it was solid but all of a sudden started fluttering like a flag does up on a flag pole," he recalls. To learn about what substances made him hallucinate, in 2006, Blazinski requested the original test documents under the Freedom of Information Act. It showed two antidotes for nerve agent poisoning with dangerous known side effects. Three test subjects enter a gas chamber, which will fill with mustard gas, as part of the military's secret chemical warfare testing in March 1945. Alan Oates was exposed to herbicides, such as Agent Orange, while serving in Vietnam in 1968. Decades after returning home, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, and because Congress passed the Agent Orange Act, he's able to receive VA benefits. Can The Agent Orange Act Help Veterans Exposed To Mustard Gas? Researchers kept information about which agents they were administering from test subjects to avoid influencing the test results. A lawyer representing the veterans, Ben Patterson of the law firm Morrison and Foerster, says that's a problem. "They don't know what they were exposed to. You know, some of these substances were only referred to by code names," Patterson says. Code names such as CAR 302668. That's one of the agents, records show, that researchers injected into Frank Rochelle in 1968. During one test, Rochelle remembers that the freckles on his arms and legs appeared to be moving. Thinking bugs had crawled under his skin, he tried using a razor blade from his shaving kit to cut them out. After that test, he says he hallucinated for 40 hours. "There were animals coming out of the walls," he says. "I saw a huge rabbit and he was solid white with red eyes." In 1975, the Army's chief of medical research admitted to Congress that he didn't have the funding to monitor test subjects' health after they went through the experiments. Since then, the military says it has ended all chemical and biological testing. Test subjects like Rochelle say that's not enough. "We were assured that everything that went on inside the clinic, we were going to be under 100 percent observation; they were going to do nothing to harm us," he says. "And also we were sure that we would be taken care of afterwards if anything happened. Instead we were left to hang out to dry." The Department of Justice is representing the Army in the case and declined to comment for this story. In June, an appeals court ruled in favor of the veterans. On Friday, the Army filed for a rehearing.

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/05/437555125/veterans-used-in-secret-experiments-sue-military-for-answers

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April 13, 1953: CIA OKs MK-ULTRA Mind-Control Tests

http://www.wired.com/2010/04/0413mk-ultra-authorized/

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ABC Developing ‘MKUltra’ CIA Miniseries

http://deadline.com/2014/10/mkultra-abc-miniseries-845276/

Thanks fake foreign operative.

Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster.

It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally.

>:(

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7^th, 2015 at 5:20am:

Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster. It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally. >:(

You can literally not afford to state that opinion on this forum at the same time as stating a defence connection. Because it's you. And you are no one.

Security risk.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 6^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

Thanks fake foreign operative.

Any further attacks will be considered to be an attack with the backing of Australian government authorities. We will retaliate.

You are now a national security risk, and if you continue, are undertaking acts specifically designed to harm Australia. What ASIO do, if anything, is for them. A lack of action indicates a government sponsored attack against multiple foreign governments. We will retaliate.

https://www.cia.gov/images/CIA_OlderKids_160w.jpg/image.jpg

easel wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 12:14am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 5:20am: Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster. It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally. >:( You can literally not afford to state that opinion on this forum at the same time as stating a defence connection. Because it's you. And you are no one. Security risk.

Dickhead

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 12:18am:

easel wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 12:14am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 5:20am: Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster. It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally. >:( You can literally not afford to state that opinion on this forum at the same time as stating a defence connection. Because it's you. And you are no one. Security risk. Dickhead

Any further attacks will be considered to be an attack with the backing of Australian government authorities. We will retaliate.

You are now a national security risk, and if you continue, are undertaking acts specifically designed to harm Australia. What ASIO do, if anything, is for them. A lack of action indicates a government sponsored attack against multiple foreign governments. We will retaliate.

https://www.cia.gov/images/CIA_OlderKids_160w.jpg/image.jpg

If you broke it you will be paying for it.

easel wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 12:14am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 5:20am: Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster. It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally. >:( You can literally not afford to state that opinion on this forum at the same time as stating a defence connection. Because it's you. And you are no one. Security risk.

And which of the three did you put your time into?

Like you, this has nothing to do with the ADF, and should be deleted or sent elsewhere.


Frig I saw that crap you spun on the F88, whilst ignoring the F89 and M4 which use the same ammo as well as the NATO stuff.

Countless hours on Call of Duty, does not make you an expert in anything let alone the ADF.

easel wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 12:19am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 12:18am: easel wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 12:14am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 5:20am: Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster. It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally. >:( You can literally not afford to state that opinion on this forum at the same time as stating a defence connection. Because it's you. And you are no one. Security risk. Dickhead Any further attacks will be considered to be an attack with the backing of Australian government authorities. We will retaliate. You are now a national security risk, and if you continue, are undertaking acts specifically designed to harm Australia. What ASIO do, if anything, is for them. A lack of action indicates a government sponsored attack against multiple foreign governments. We will retaliate. https://www.cia.gov/images/CIA_OlderKids_160w.jpg/image.jpg

Blah blah fricking blah.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 5:16am:

easel wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 12:14am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 5:20am: Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster. It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally. >:( You can literally not afford to state that opinion on this forum at the same time as stating a defence connection. Because it's you. And you are no one. Security risk. And which of the three did you put your time into? Like you, this has nothing to do with the ADF, and should be deleted or sent elsewhere. Frig I saw that crap you spun on the F88, whilst ignoring the F89 and M4 which use the same ammo as well as the NATO stuff. Countless hours on Call of Duty, does not make you an expert in anything let alone the ADF.

The issue at fault was the F88 gas system.

You are engaging multiple foreign governments in a hostile manner.

You were warned repeatedly.

Your life is destroyed.

Have a nice day.

Any further attacks will be considered to be an attack with the backing of Australian government authorities. We will retaliate.

You are now a national security risk, and if you continue, are undertaking acts specifically designed to harm Australia. What ASIO do, if anything, is for them. A lack of action indicates a government sponsored attack against multiple foreign governments. We will retaliate.

https://www.cia.gov/images/CIA_OlderKids_160w.jpg/image.jpg

easel wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 5:53pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 5:16am: easel wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 12:14am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 5:20am: Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster. It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally. >:( You can literally not afford to state that opinion on this forum at the same time as stating a defence connection. Because it's you. And you are no one. Security risk. And which of the three did you put your time into? Like you, this has nothing to do with the ADF, and should be deleted or sent elsewhere. Frig I saw that crap you spun on the F88, whilst ignoring the F89 and M4 which use the same ammo as well as the NATO stuff. Countless hours on Call of Duty, does not make you an expert in anything let alone the ADF. The issue at fault was the F88 gas system. You are engaging multiple foreign governments in a hostile manner. You were warned repeatedly. Your life is destroyed. Have a nice day.

Same to you and your Mum

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easel wrote on Sep 8^th, 2015 at 5:53pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 5:16am: easel wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 12:14am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 5:20am: Why is this american bullsh1t wasting space in Defence and the same could be said about the poster. It should be either deleted in its entirety or sent to Thinking Globally. >:( You can literally not afford to state that opinion on this forum at the same time as stating a defence connection. Because it's you. And you are no one. Security risk. And which of the three did you put your time into? Like you, this has nothing to do with the ADF, and should be deleted or sent elsewhere. Frig I saw that crap you spun on the F88, whilst ignoring the F89 and M4 which use the same ammo as well as the NATO stuff. Countless hours on Call of Duty, does not make you an expert in anything let alone the ADF. The issue at fault was the F88 gas system.

And what was the fault, Easel?  You've avoided this question several times.  Lets hear an answer.   ::)

It wasn't NATO standard. Australian made ammunition has different chamber pressures and burn rates to standard NATO rounds.

It would not feed NATO rounds due to the gas system which was also different in the Australian AUG designated F88.

Maybe they have fixed it now? Maybe it was so that cheaper tenders could not be considered by AU-NZ and therefore there was a corruption issue where price fixing was used to fleece the Kiwis or maintain the Australian defense manufacturing industries.

easel wrote on Sep 9^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

It wasn't NATO standard. Australian made ammunition has different chamber pressures and burn rates to standard NATO rounds. It would not feed NATO rounds due to the gas system which was also different in the Australian AUG designated F88. Maybe they have fixed it now? Maybe it was so that cheaper tenders could not be considered by AU-NZ and therefore there was a corruption issue where price fixing was used to fleece the Kiwis or maintain the Australian defense manufacturing industries.

Why didn't it affect the F89 or M4 both of which have "gas system" and no obvious operational issues?

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The Defense Security Service continues to receive reports from companies with U.S. Government facility clearances concerning inappropriate conduct by foreign personnel during the course of visits to the facilities.

http://www.dss.mil/ci/foreign_visit_what_inappro.html

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BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 7:59am:

easel wrote on Sep 9th, 2015 at 5:10pm: It wasn't NATO standard. Australian made ammunition has different chamber pressures and burn rates to standard NATO rounds. It would not feed NATO rounds due to the gas system which was also different in the Australian AUG designated F88. Maybe they have fixed it now? Maybe it was so that cheaper tenders could not be considered by AU-NZ and therefore there was a corruption issue where price fixing was used to fleece the Kiwis or maintain the Australian defense manufacturing industries. Why didn't it affect the F89 or M4 both of which have "gas system" and no obvious operational issues?

It's kind of amusing how little you really know about this subject, compared to how much you expect people to believe you know.

As a civilian with a couple of copies of Guns and Ammo in your toilet you will not be able to match it with ex-service personnel in this sort of argument, ultimately you will look exactly how you do now; like a whiny little douche bag, trying to big note himself.

Stick to subjects you know something about and ones where there are no people present who did that for a living. it is going to limit you to very little to talk about but at least we won't be laughing at you as much.

You are attacking an internationally protected person receiving instruction from the defense attache of an allied nation. Continually.

You are attacking my facts, calling them false, and attacking my credibility.

Your life is ruined.

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easel wrote on Sep 11^th, 2015 at 7:41pm:

You are attacking an internationally protected person receiving instruction from the defense attache of an allied nation. Continually.

Which nation, which defence attache?


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You are attacking my facts, calling them false, and attacking my credibility.

Because they are incorrect on the basis of my personal knowledge.


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Your life is ruined.

I doubt it.   ::)

You are attacking an internationally protected person receiving instruction from the defense attache of an allied nation. Continually.

You are attacking my facts, calling them false, and attacking my credibility.

Your life is ruined.

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easel wrote on Sep 11^th, 2015 at 11:09pm:

You are attacking an internationally protected person receiving instruction from the defense attache of an allied nation. Continually. You are attacking my facts, calling them false, and attacking my credibility. Your life is ruined. http://www.dss.mil/images/banner.png

Actually with the exception of a cold that Im getting over, my life is excellent, and if that is because of you, thanks.


I mean I have be demeaning and belittling you for a few weeks now and you have promised to ruin my life and if this is your doing..... sweet job.


Look, I doubt you could ruin nanna's scone recipe, you're a little man who has over stepped and is never going to recover; best you get a new sock and try again. A little less of everything might help.

Your life is going to be destroyed. This is not a joke.

Why you think you can fight us, when we take entire countries down baffles me.

Your existence on this planet is in the process of being destroyed.

Your life is ruined.

Have a nice day.

http://www.nis.go.kr/img/common/logo.png

easel wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

Your life is going to be destroyed. This is not a joke. Why you think you can fight us, when we take entire countries down baffles me. Your existence on this planet is in the process of being destroyed. Your life is ruined. Have a nice day. http://www.nis.go.kr/img/common/logo.png

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easel wrote on Sep 11^th, 2015 at 11:09pm:

You are attacking an internationally protected person receiving instruction from the defense attache of an allied nation. Continually.

Which nation?  Which attache?  Name, names, Easel or bugger off.


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You are attacking my facts, calling them false, and attacking my credibility.

The only person attacking your credibility is yourself.


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Your life is ruined.

Is it?  Appears to be exactly the same as before your arrival on this fora, Easel.  Not ruined in the slightest.  Keep trying though, I'm enjoying myself.   ::)

Your life is in the process of being destroyed. This will not take five minutes.

You are continuing to attack a representative of a foreign government.

It's going to get worse.

Your life is destroyed.

Keep going. It's just the rest of your life. It's worth it.

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easel wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 5:26pm:

Your life is in the process of being destroyed. This will not take five minutes. You are continuing to attack a representative of a foreign government. It's going to get worse. Your life is destroyed. Keep going. It's just the rest of your life. It's worth it.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QptOvTtl3H4/VKmAaedHqNI/AAAAAAAABJY/qk5NAc-sq7M/s1600/yawning.gif

I see some of the forum regulars have approached their acme by debating the mentally unhinged.   ::)

Coming soon, arse kicking competitions featuring cripples.   8-)

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 7:14pm:

I see some of the forum regulars have approached their acme by debating the mentally unhinged.   ::) Coming soon, arse kicking competitions featuring cripples.   8-)

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Acme (/ˈækmiː/; Greek: ακμή, the peak, zenith, prime) is a Greek word denoting the best of something.

And it's all downhill from here.


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RAF Menwith Hill is situated off the A59 Skipton Road, approximately nine miles west of Harrogate in North Yorkshire and occupies about one square mile of moorland.  The base is owned by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) and made available to the US Department of Defense (DoD).

http://www.raf.mod.uk/organisation/rafmenwithhill.cfm

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The base, which plays a key role in the global network of the National Security Agency (NSA), GCHQ's American partner, now includes 33 radomes – commonly called "golf balls" after the white sheeting protecting the satellite receiving and transmission stations – and is undergoing a big construction programme.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/01/menwith-hill-eavesdropping-base-expansion

We take down entire countries. And intelligence agencies on their own turf. Why would you want to play in this arena? You were warned repeatedly there would be dire consequences. It was actually your choice.

We even offered to investigate ASIO for you. We're up to overhauling them anyway. We've already done state and federal police. They no longer have an intelligence, overseas or counter-terrorism or counter espionage capability beyond a keeping up appearances act by stating they to the public they do.

Why was this worth it for you?

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SYDNEY—Australia believes South Korea has been trying to spy on its police and government agencies, newly-released documents reveal in separate disclosures that are likely to complicate relations between the two allies.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324266904578458602036593008

And this is why state and federal agencies, including within ASIO and defence are undergoing a massive review and overhaul.

Because whilst under investigation for breaking international law, they accused us of spying on them.

Whilst they were under official sanctioned investigation.

http://www.mod.go.jp/dih/IMG/symbole-s.gif

http://www.nsb.gov.tw/pic4_5_1v2.jpg

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The Daily Telegraph can reveal former British and Australian submarine commanding officer Peter Clarke, who runs executive leadership company Leadexec, will run full-day seminars for the deputies and other police executives to improve “communication and leadership” skills. The revelation comes as new Acting Ombudsman John McMillan yesterday released a statement saying he had taken on Operation Prospect — the investigation into a police bugging scandal that has ensnared both deputy commissioners.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/nsw-police-retired-admiral-peter-clarke-brought-in-to-improve-communication-and-leadership-skills/story-fni0cx12-1227477886663


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The former chief of Britain’s GCHQ, Sir Iain Lobban, will help shape Australia’s response to cyber security threats. He joins BCA head Jennifer Westacott and others in providing advice to the government’s Cyber Security Review.

http://www.themandarin.com.au/30763-former-british-spy-appointed-cyber-security-review-panel/

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Anyway, your life is ruined.

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Generally, in-camera describes court cases, parts of it, or process where the public and press are not allowed to observe the procedure or process.[2] In-camera is the opposite of trial in open court where all parties and witnesses testify in a public courtroom, and attorneys publicly present their arguments to the trier of fact. Entire cases may be heard in-camera when, for example, matters of national security are involved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_camera

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Former ASIO boss says beef up IGIS

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/former-asio-boss-says-beef-up-igis/story-fn3dxiwe-1227405561529


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The IGIS' inquiries are conducted in private, but many of them are reported in annual reports.

http://igis.gov.au/about/what-we-do


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An intelligence investigation of an ongoing criminal enterprise must determine the size and composition of the group involved, its geographic dimensions, its past acts and intended criminal goals, and its capacity for harm. While a standard criminal investigation terminates with the decision to prosecute or not to prosecute, the investigation of a criminal enterprise does not necessarily end, even though one or more of the participants may have been prosecuted.

http://www.justice.gov/ag/attorney-generals-guidelines-general-crimes-racketeering-enterprise-and-domestic

I would personally just Delta Force them. It might not be gentlemanly, but it would be legal.

easel wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Anyway, your life is ruined.

You keep claiming this.  I see no proof of it, Easel...   ::)

Yeah and I told you it will take more than five minutes and that you are engaging hostilely with the CIA.

Your life is destroyed.

Have a nice day.

easel wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Yeah and I told you it will take more than five minutes and that you are engaging hostilely with the CIA.

Really?  And where are your credentials, Easel?  I'm interested to see them, please.


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Your life is destroyed.

You keep threatening this.  Somehow I doubt it is in reality.


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Have a nice day.

I am.  Are you?  How is your net.therapy going, BTW?   ::)

You have started a fight you will lose for the rest of your life.

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easel wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 8:03pm:

You have started a fight you will lose for the rest of your life.

Whose fighting, Easel?

How long have you suffered from Paranoia?   ::)

Your life is beyond destroyed.

I don't care at this point. Nor should you. It's the rest of your life. Don't worry about it.

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easel wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 7:11pm:

Your life is beyond destroyed.

No it isn't, Easel.


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I don't care at this point. Nor should you. It's the rest of your life. Don't worry about it.

I don't, Easel.  My life is fine.    ::)

For the last time:

You tried to fight and damage the reputation of multiple foreign governments.

You were warned repeatedly.

And you are being made aware we are putting in place measures to ruin your existence on this planet.

We took half the Soviet Union and turned it in to NATO. We crippled ASIO.

You are less than a nobody. You will be no effort to ruin. I decline to entertain you further.

Your life is ruined. Have a nice day.

easel wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

For the last time: You tried to fight and damage the reputation of multiple foreign governments.

Really? How?  ::)


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You were warned repeatedly.

Not by the foreign governments or their representatives (with credentials), Easel.   ::)


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And you are being made aware we are putting in place measures to ruin your existence on this planet.

Really?  I see no evidence of that.   ::)


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We took half the Soviet Union and turned it in to NATO. We crippled ASIO.

ASIO has always been crippled and "half the Soviet Union" wasn't the Soviet Union, Easel.   ::)


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You are less than a nobody. You will be no effort to ruin. I decline to entertain you further. Your life is ruined. Have a nice day.

No it isn't.   ::)

http://www.mnd.gov.tw/App_Themes/Chinese/images/mobileqrcode.png

There is no satisfaction taken in ruining your life. I wish it didn't come to this point.

easel wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

http://www.mnd.gov.tw/App_Themes/Chinese/images/mobileqrcode.png There is no satisfaction taken in ruining your life. I wish it didn't come to this point.

You keep making that boast, Easel.  I see no evidence of it occurring.   ::)

I'm not proud of it.

Look, you can have the last word if you want.

The facts are:

You continually are engaged in behavior designed to harm an international intelligence operation and the reputation thereof. You are doing this of your own volition. You were offered assistance that you refused.

Due to this, there will be retaliation. Your life is ruined. I will not feel bad about it. I will not feel happy about it either.

And if you want to make yourself feel better that I am misrepresenting myself, you should report it to the appropriate authority. Because misrepresentation at this level is beyond illegal and an international security risk.

But I am real. And your life is ruined.

I am not going to engage with you further. You can have the last post if you want, because that is all your endeavors seem to be aiming to achieve.

You have not attempted to rectify the situation, nor have you attempted to backtrack from your path.

You are continuing your assault on an internationally protected person and an international operation.

And your life is going to be destroyed.

easel wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 8:20pm:

I'm not proud of it. Look, you can have the last word if you want. The facts are: You continually are engaged in behavior designed to harm an international intelligence operation and the reputation thereof. You are doing this of your own volition. You were offered assistance that you refused. Due to this, there will be retaliation. Your life is ruined. I will not feel bad about it. I will not feel happy about it either. And if you want to make yourself feel better that I am misrepresenting myself, you should report it to the appropriate authority. Because misrepresentation at this level is beyond illegal and an international security risk. But I am real. And your life is ruined. I am not going to engage with you further. You can have the last post if you want, because that is all your endeavors seem to be aiming to achieve. You have not attempted to rectify the situation, nor have you attempted to backtrack from your path. You are continuing your assault on an internationally protected person and an international operation. And your life is going to be destroyed.

You keep making that boast, Easel.  I see no evidence of it occurring.    ::)

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2015/09/18/0200000000AEN20150918006800315.html


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focused on a former military official now working at a major gunpowder company.

Mere coincidence. But you are royally screwed.

Yoo-hoo!  Easel?  You keep making that boast, Easel about wrecking my life.  I see no evidence of it occurring.     ::)

I work sometimes at DSC. Last time I was at DIC.

They do not make press releases. And when they do it's for not informing the public but other reasons.

And I do not want to talk to you anymore.

I know what your future looks like. I don't need to discuss it with you. I don't need to rub it in. 

End of conversation.

I also own a record company. Major acts.

It is beneath my dignity to engage with you further. So I will stop now. I don't want to help you anyway, so me further engaging with you would be disgustingly barbaric.

easel wrote on Sep 21^st, 2015 at 1:54am:

I also own a record company. Major acts. It is beneath my dignity to engage with you further. So I will stop now. I don't want to help you anyway, so me further engaging with you would be disgustingly barbaric.

Lol, sure you do.

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An exchange officer is a commissioned officer in a country's armed forces who is temporarily attached to a unit of the armed forces of another country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_officer

https://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/game-of-pawns

Just a little bump...


Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Yoo-hoo!  Easel?  You keep making that boast, Easel about wrecking my life.  I see no evidence of it occurring.     ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGEi_nUPGkM

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2015/09/18/0200000000AEN20150918006800315.html


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focused on a former military official now working at a major gunpowder company.

hard at work eh easel

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An international incident is a seemingly relatively small or limited action or clash that results in a wider dispute between two or more nation-states. International incidents can arise from unanticipated actions involving citizens, government officials, or armed units of one or more nation-states, or out of a deliberate but small provocative action by espionage agents of one nation-state, or by terrorists, against another nation-state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_incident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWZ2-WEMdDk

Why the irrelevant links to Chinese pop videos, Easel?

Please don't threaten to ruin my life again.  We all know you're quite powerless to carry out the threat.    ::)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is

easel wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2015 at 10:11pm:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is

Why the irrelevant links to  pop videos, Easel?   ::)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NlLc_s6VDqU

Asian pop sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqss6GJFAEc

Thats the worst one yet. Computer derived beat and the most appalling use of auto-tune you've ever seen. She doesnt even have to have anywhere near a singing voice for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbyh0wzTS0

easel wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 3:48pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbyh0wzTS0

Why the irrelevant links to  pop videos, Easel?   ::)

Whats worse is its all poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MyR2kNQLXk

Why the irrelevant links to Chinese pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M69TE1yzt4

Why the irrelevant links to Chinese pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZaJYDPY-YQ

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ju79e8rM0c

Why the irrelevant links to Chinese pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQy54gw-pls

Interesting how this is considered music

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWDZ0xj-Yxw

Theres just not enough pink there

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15fuuc_pv-akb48-sugar-rush_music

I take it when you mean you investigate foreign intelligence, you actually watch KPop you freal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doXnuStEf2I

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8oyKoINFrM

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

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"Dance dance dance till we run this town, Oppa Oppa I'll be I'll be down down down."    The addictive K-pop mega-hit song "Oh!" by Girls' Generation hopped up an unlikely audience in the dark nights of August. The South Korean military broadcast the girl group's music and other K-pop songs to front-line North Korean soldiers, in what could be termed a K-pop counterattack last month in retaliation for the blasts of North Korea's land mines that maimed two South Korean soldiers earlier in August. The dance song was a proven success among young South Korean military conscripts with its sweet calling of "oppa," the Korean term for older brother or lover, and it may have worked as well for the North Korean equivalents, dramatizing life over the border and disillusioning them about their communist country and leader Kim Jong-un.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2015/09/04/32/0301000000AEN20150904006400315F.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbwL8kSpEk

easel wrote on Sep 30^th, 2015 at 6:38pm:

Quote: "Dance dance dance till we run this town, Oppa Oppa I'll be I'll be down down down."    The addictive K-pop mega-hit song "Oh!" by Girls' Generation hopped up an unlikely audience in the dark nights of August. The South Korean military broadcast the girl group's music and other K-pop songs to front-line North Korean soldiers, in what could be termed a K-pop counterattack last month in retaliation for the blasts of North Korea's land mines that maimed two South Korean soldiers earlier in August. The dance song was a proven success among young South Korean military conscripts with its sweet calling of "oppa," the Korean term for older brother or lover, and it may have worked as well for the North Korean equivalents, dramatizing life over the border and disillusioning them about their communist country and leader Kim Jong-un. http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2015/09/04/32/0301000000AEN20150904006400315F.html

What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?    ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?    ::)

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDGcxAf9D8

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t4FGuCvGmY

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbqBv7Tz1QY

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuLDFGw1mYA

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OrCA1OInoo

Why the irrelevant links to pop videos, Easel?  What relevance does it have to "Veterans used in secret experiments"?   ::)

When are you going to discuss the issue which you raised?  Mmm?   ::)

You are engaging in conduct designed to inflict reputational damage upon a foreign government and increase your own standing by degrading mentioned foreign governement.

You are in a situation that you are never going to recover from.

You are destroyed.

Idiot.

easel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 11:35pm:

You are engaging in conduct designed to inflict reputational damage upon a foreign government and increase your own standing by degrading mentioned foreign governement.

How?  By asking you to stick to the topic of the thread which you created, Easel?  Please explain how that is "inflicting reputational damage upon a foreign government"?  Sure, by starting the thread and damning the US Government, you're the one who has been "inflicting reputational damage" upon that government?  Tsk, tsk, caught in your own web, it appears, Easel.   ::)


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You are in a situation that you are never going to recover from. You are destroyed. Idiot.

Really?  How so?  My life continues in exactly the same form it always has, Easel.  How has it been "destroyed"?   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 12:46am:

easel wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 11:35pm: You are engaging in conduct designed to inflict reputational damage upon a foreign government and increase your own standing by degrading mentioned foreign governement. How?  By asking you to stick to the topic of the thread which you created, Easel?  Please explain how that is "inflicting reputational damage upon a foreign government"?  Sure, by starting the thread and damning the US Government, you're the one who has been "inflicting reputational damage" upon that government?  Tsk, tsk, caught in your own web, it appears, Easel.   ::) Quote: You are in a situation that you are never going to recover from. You are destroyed. Idiot. Really?  How so?  My life continues in exactly the same form it always has, Easel.  How has it been "destroyed"?   ::) ::)

You know what your conduct is aimed at achieving.

I am not here to engage with you.

You bet the house and lost.

You know it, I know it. You can write what you want, it doesn't change the fact your life is ruined.

Keep fighting us. I want you to be an extreme national security espionage risk so you get a control order and are banned from engagement with a wide variety of people.

Please, continue.

Let's see how far you want to take this.

You can feign ignorance and naivety all you want.

That doesn't detract from the fact you can end up with a control order.

Keep going.

Easel, please call your nurse, I think you need stronger medication.    ::)

I don't believe it....

easel wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 7:46pm:

I don't believe it....

You had better believe it.  Your threats are hollow, like your head.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 7:23pm:

Easel, please call your nurse, I think you need stronger medication.    ::)

Finally 1 post we agree on. ;D ;D ;D

easel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 1:43am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13th, 2015 at 12:46am: easel wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 11:35pm: You are engaging in conduct designed to inflict reputational damage upon a foreign government and increase your own standing by degrading mentioned foreign governement. How?  By asking you to stick to the topic of the thread which you created, Easel?  Please explain how that is "inflicting reputational damage upon a foreign government"?  Sure, by starting the thread and damning the US Government, you're the one who has been "inflicting reputational damage" upon that government?  Tsk, tsk, caught in your own web, it appears, Easel.   ::) Quote: You are in a situation that you are never going to recover from. You are destroyed. Idiot. Really?  How so?  My life continues in exactly the same form it always has, Easel.  How has it been "destroyed"?   ::) ::) You know what your conduct is aimed at achieving. I am not here to engage with you. You bet the house and lost. You know it, I know it. You can write what you want, it doesn't change the fact your life is ruined. Keep fighting us. I want you to be an extreme national security espionage risk so you get a control order and are banned from engagement with a wide variety of people. Please, continue. Let's see how far you want to take this. You can feign ignorance and naivety all you want. That doesn't detract from the fact you can end up with a control order. Keep going.

Don't mess with brain, he knows stuff man. Stuff you would lose your head over.

easel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 11:35pm:

You are engaging in conduct designed to inflict reputational damage upon a foreign government and increase your own standing by degrading mentioned foreign governement. You are in a situation that you are never going to recover from. You are destroyed. Idiot.

He's been doing that here in Australia for years.

You are not having a discussion. You are attempting to provoke a reaction.

Your attempts have been successful. There are going to be consequences.

easel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 1:08am:

You are not having a discussion. You are attempting to provoke a reaction. Your attempts have been successful. There are going to be consequences.

I'll pop the kettle on.

This isn't going to benefit the rest of your life.

You are an international security risk.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 1:11am:

easel wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 1:08am: You are not having a discussion. You are attempting to provoke a reaction. Your attempts have been successful. There are going to be consequences. I'll pop the kettle on.

I'll bring the Biccies.  Chocolate OK?

easel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 1:21am:

This isn't going to benefit the rest of your life. You are an international security risk.

You know, I haven't been accused of that for over 25 years...  Ah, memories.   ::) ::)

It's not an accusation. It's a fact.

Look who you are intentionally starting a fight with and self radicalising against.

You are in extremely serious trouble.

easel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 9:58pm:

It's not an accusation. It's a fact. Look who you are intentionally starting a fight with and self radicalising against. You are in extremely serious trouble.

You appear to have a persecution complex, Easel.  Have you sought aid for it?   :)

Yeah I'm persecuting you.

Not really.

The issue is you are publicly continually engaging a foreign government representative in an extremely hostile and subversive manner.

And as a national security measure, we are destroying your life.

That is not persecution.

You need to realise you are not going to be afforded a capability that allows you to feel or believe that you can engage with someone like me in this manner, be treated as if you have important backing or legitimate aims and ideas and mount a continued and sustained attack on multiple foreign nations and diplomatic channels.

That is not persecution.

These are legitimate measures being enacted in the name of national security.

You can't get involved with foreign intelligence agencies and militaries in a discussion, engage with them hostilely and not expect your acts to be interpreted extremely seriously.

Destroying the rest of your life is not persecution.

You know that.

"foreign government representative"

;D ;D ;D

The only thing he is engaging is some nutter called midnightcowboy who now calls himself easel trying to live a fantasy online.

Even if you were a "foreign government representative" which you are not clearly. Big deal, welcome to an Australian forum. Maybe you should grow a set before making utterly ridiculous statements about ending peoples lives. You come across as a clown of the highest order.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

"foreign government representative" ;D ;D ;D The only thing he is engaging is some nutter called midnightcowboy who now calls himself easel trying to live a fantasy online. Even if you were a "foreign government representative" which you are not clearly. Big deal, welcome to an Australian forum. Maybe you should grow a set before making utterly ridiculous statements about ending peoples lives. You come across as a clown of the highest order.

Your life is getting destroyed.

It was worth it for you I bet. You knew this was going to be the outcome.

So this is what you wanted.

And we are happy to oblige.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 9:57pm:

easel wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 1:21am: This isn't going to benefit the rest of your life. You are an international security risk. You know, I haven't been accused of that for over 25 years...  Ah, memories.   ::) ::)

Did you engage easel on the Hi 5 web forums back in the day ?

Was your life ruined back in the day or is this a new development for you?

I assume you knew you were already destroyed and this type of participation is due to your own frustration and incompetence, and allowing you to believe you are getting one back on 'the man'.

But you are allowing 'the man' to make anyone who finds this forum aware that the slightest attack not on policy, but on a direct government channel, destroys their life.

So you are also restricting via fear the potential for anyone to mount a public attack on 'the man'.

You have nothing and no backing. Welcome to the ruining of your life.

And the destruction of your aims and objectives.

Idiot.

Stop going around abusing people, you come across as someone with a mental illness. Its all fun and games pretending to be who you do and is a good laugh and all but being abusive and threatening people calling people idiots all the time and that you are going to see their lives destroyed is going over the top.

Grow up.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 11:07pm:

Stop going around abusing people, you come across as someone with a mental illness. Its all fun and games pretending to be who you do and is a good laugh and all but being abusive and threatening people calling people idiots all the time and that you are going to see their lives destroyed is going over the top. Grow up.

YOUR LIFE IS BEYOND DESTROYED, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

YOU CANNOT ENGAGE ME IN THAT MANNER.

YOU ARE BEYOND STUPID. AND YOUR LIFE IS BEYOND DESTROYED.

easel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 11:09pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:07pm: Stop going around abusing people, you come across as someone with a mental illness. Its all fun and games pretending to be who you do and is a good laugh and all but being abusive and threatening people calling people idiots all the time and that you are going to see their lives destroyed is going over the top. Grow up. YOUR LIFE IS BEYOND DESTROYED, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? YOU CANNOT ENGAGE ME IN THAT MANNER. YOU ARE BEYOND STUPID. AND YOUR LIFE IS BEYOND DESTROYED.

Clearly you have some mental illness, and that's sad.

http://www.mnd.gov.tw/App_Themes/Chinese/images/mobileqrcode.png

easel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 11:12pm:

http://www.mnd.gov.tw/App_Themes/Chinese/images/mobileqrcode.png

;D ;D ;D ;D

BIG DEAL anyone can post a website link to ANY website.

Keep dreaming little man.

Doing it in this context implies representation and authority of the mentioned government.

Which I have already established.

And you are attacking that capability rather than using the appropriate channel and reporting it to the government for potential or suspected misrepresentation of an extremely serious national security matter.

You are out of line.

And attacking and trying to harm the capabilities of multiple foreign governments.

Your life is destroyed.

Any further attacks will be considered to be an attack with the backing of Australian government authorities. We will retaliate.

You are now a national security risk, and if you continue, are undertaking acts specifically designed to harm Australia. What ASIO do, if anything, is for them. A lack of action indicates a government sponsored attack against multiple foreign governments. We will retaliate.

https://www.cia.gov/images/CIA_OlderKids_160w.jpg/image.jpg

Clearly yours is, with mental illness.

I still have access to multiple official government representatives.

You writing on the internet does nothing to me.

It does destroy your life though.

Keep doing it.

easel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 11:25pm:

I still have access to multiple official government representatives. You writing on the internet does nothing to me. It does destroy your life though. Keep doing it.

Prove it.

I already did.

Your life is ruined.

easel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 11:26pm:

I already did. Your life is ruined.

In what way , prove it, nothing has changed.

You can't even prove you aren't in a mental home with wifi access.

I already did prove it.

For like, the last three months I have been here.

North Korean.

I already did prove it.

For like, the last three months I have been here.

North Korean.

easel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2015 at 11:35pm:

I already did prove it. For like, the last three months I have been here. North Korean.

What a coincidence I am North Korean also maybe we work for the same place.

I'm Chinese. From Hualien.

Not North Korean.

You are in more trouble than you can ever imagine.

Just by writing on the internet. And it was worth it for you. Or you wouldn't have let it get to this point.

Your life is ruined.

Enjoy.

Actually I am really Chinese I was just joking with you.

No you're not.

There is no Chinese association or government that will say you are Chinese.

Anywhere on the planet.

Actually I am and neither will they for you.

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Various operations of Taiwan's Military Intelligence Bureau (MIB) will be allocated to different branches of the administration that are under the purview of the Ministry of National Defense, our sister newspaper China Times reports.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20130103000087&cid=1101


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Men in Black is an American comic science fiction franchise of comic books and other media that focuses on the eponymous and fictional non-governmental organization which monitors and regulates paranormal and alien activity on Earth while preventing civilians from finding out about it.

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Hualien County (Chinese: 花蓮縣; pinyin: Huālián Xiàn) has the largest area of all counties in Taiwan, and is located on the country's mountainous eastern coast.

and ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiBLgEx6svA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhD0vBFta58

..

http://www.nis.go.kr/img/common/logo.png

Check this one out its pretty cool too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R7pgjj3_zg

https://www.cia.gov/++theme++contextual.agencytheme/images/logo.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4qfspyIIAABHUp.jpg

http://www.army.mil/e2/c/images/2011/12/15/230273/size0.jpg

Easel if you think the military and cia are going to come here to this forum and destroy the lives of people just because you posted a link from there just for disagreeing with you. May I suggest there computer system isn't going to give a fat rats ass.

At most they would be laughing at your posts bud.
...

You are attempting to psychologically manipulate the CIA and give your self credibility in the field of international intelligence utilising the reference point of the CIA.

You are in extremely serious trouble.

;D ;D ;D

http://www.mnd.gov.tw/App_Themes/Chinese/images/mobileqrcode.png

easel wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 12:54am:

http://www.mnd.gov.tw/App_Themes/Chinese/images/mobileqrcode.png

http://7-themes.com/data_images/out/65/6995435-clown.jpg

http://www.mnd.gov.tw/App_Themes/Chinese/images/mobileqrcode.png

::)

You think you're going to be able to socially degrade a foreign intelligence service deployed operationally and attempt to use that to improve your own image and get away with it?

Who's laughing now?

easel wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:14am:

You think you're going to be able to socially degrade a foreign intelligence service deployed operationally and attempt to use that to improve your own image and get away with it? Who's laughing now?

I am of course ;D ;D ;D


Well and probably the rest of readers here. ;D

Fact is that many US, Australian and British personnel were used as 'guinea pigs' for certain things, such as gas, atomic blasts, and so forth.

Medical records of service personnel involved in atomic tests at Maralinga and Montebello were magically 'disappeared'.  Not something I was involved in, but my medical records are also MIA.

Nothing new there.....or am I missing something, since I've known that for many years.....

An old friend, SAS Major, gave me 'Spycatcher' to read, and I came back and said to him that there was not a single thing new in that book and that Thatcher's opposition to it was a ploy to publicise it and garner sales for Peter Wright  .....  must have been an 'oops' moment on my part.

Why do people make such a big deal out of things that - well - I believe - are general knowledge?

Correct they are general knowledge. Maybe they just like to grandstand on the hopes some people believe what they type on an internet forum is actually true. Sorta like trying to be the local village hero/idiot.