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Message started by Lot Of Shyte on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am

Title: question about religion
Post by Lot Of Shyte on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am
What religion did god start?

We know that Abraham is the father of the Jewish Religion, jesus started christian religion and muhammad started islam religion.

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?

Was religion started by man to answer questions he didn't have the answers too? Like where did we come from, why are we here and where do we go when we die.

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Swagman on Sep 12th, 2015 at 10:58am
You left out the Climate religion.....


Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:15am

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

We know that Abraham is the father of the Jewish Religion, jesus started christian religion and muhammad started islam religion.

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?

Was religion started by man to answer questions he didn't have the answers too? Like where did we come from, why are we here and where do we go when we die.


muslims are fighting jews.
muslims are fighting christians.
muslims are fighting muslims.

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by The_Barnacle on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Swagman on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:38am

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:
Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism


+ eco-socialism

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by The Heartless Felon on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:48am

Swagman wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:38am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:
Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism


+ eco-socialism


+ Pastafarianism

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


it's only islam that fights all the time.

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Stratos on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:56am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:
it's only islam that fights all the time.


Lol

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by The_Barnacle on Sep 12th, 2015 at 12:01pm

Stratos wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:
it's only islam that fights all the time.


Lol


All religions fight. George W Bush said that God was on his side when he was bombing Iraq and Afghanistan. How many thousands of civilians did that kill?


Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Johnsmith on Sep 12th, 2015 at 12:03pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:
There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


You forgot 'Jedi'

:D :D :D

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Johnsmith on Sep 12th, 2015 at 12:03pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


it's only islam that fights all the time.




Title: Re: question about religion
Post by issuevoter on Sep 12th, 2015 at 12:30pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:
   

There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


I suppose that is true in very general terms, but I think the reasons for the fighting lies in several different aspects of the human condition. One important factor is that the ego cannot bear to be contradicted. By taking advantage of this basic instinct, fighting another religion is used to unify the faithful. This perpetuates the hierarchies of power. Piety is a good cover for a desire to control people and get one's hands into the coffers.

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Lot Of Shyte on Sep 12th, 2015 at 1:02pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.



How many of those religion pray to a god

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Johnsmith on Sep 12th, 2015 at 1:04pm

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 1:02pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.



How many of those religion pray to a god


do you count one god for Hind's? or 330 million of them?

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Swagman on Sep 12th, 2015 at 1:08pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 12:01pm:

Stratos wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:
it's only islam that fights all the time.


Lol


All religions fight. George W Bush said that God was on his side when he was bombing Iraq and Afghanistan. How many thousands of civilians did that kill?


Maybe he meant his Dog but was dyslexic? 

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Ajax on Sep 12th, 2015 at 1:23pm
The ancient Greeks had a special place in Athens where they had erected statues of the 12 Olympians (gods) like Zues, Athena, Apollo on pedestals etc etc.

There was also a thirteenth pedestal with no statue and the inscription read to the unknown god.

Paul seized this opportunity to spread the word of Jesus to Europe by proclaiming this is the God that he represented.

There is only one God, to the Muslims he is known as Alla, to the Jews he is Yahweh (Jehovah), tgo the Christians he is "I am", Jesus and God.

Men made the religions and even though they talk about love and peace they always practice hate and war.

It's in man's nature to destroy himself, man is a selfish creature that only thinks about himself.

Individualism will destroy the group as a whole, cause individuals only care about themselves and not their neighbours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ4kSCXf1GM


Title: Re: question about religion
Post by The_Barnacle on Sep 12th, 2015 at 1:29pm

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 1:02pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.



How many of those religion pray to a god


They all pray to one God or another. Some of them have more than one God. Pagans also have many Gods as did the ancient Greek and Roman religions.

So yes, religion is a man made creation to try and explain the world.

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Unforgiven on Sep 12th, 2015 at 1:43pm

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

We know that Abraham is the father of the Jewish Religion, jesus started christian religion and muhammad started islam religion.

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?

Was religion started by man to answer questions he didn't have the answers too? Like where did we come from, why are we here and where do we go when we die.


The gods must be crazy.

There must be a super-god above them who opposed monopoly theism and compelled competition between the gods.

The one with the underwear on the outside of it's trousers is the super god.

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Soren on Sep 12th, 2015 at 2:03pm

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

None. Religion is a human institution.


Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 12th, 2015 at 2:10pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


it's only islam that fights all the time.


in all battles, it's islam vs anyone else.

islam is incompatible with the rest of the planet

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Phemanderac on Sep 12th, 2015 at 3:00pm
I read a long time ago now (so don't expect a link anytime in this life) that, at least as far as the Celts were concerned, they developed religion at about the same time they moved from being familial (small) tribal groups to larger mixed family groups. Apparently, they realised it might be problematic for one lot of people to make laws for all people, so, over time, they elevated heroes from folk lore to be Gods or Demi gods and then used their moral examples as the basis for law... that is a very simplistic version of what was almost an entire book... The Celts were a pagan religion, their wise people, priests, doctors and a range of other things were the Druids (or at least in the ranks leading up to being a Druid). Celtic religion also related at some level to Wicker but I don't recall now either what that link was or how strong it was.

It kind of made sense to me at the time as a reason why, very primitive man may have reasoned the need to religion and, further, how religion went on to exercise great power and control as we still see today.

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 12th, 2015 at 3:37pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.
Indeed, religion is a breeding ground for intolerance and bigotry. 

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 12th, 2015 at 3:40pm
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Title: Re: question about religion
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 12th, 2015 at 3:41pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


it's only islam that fights all the time.
Yeah, I reckon the first and second world war bloodbaths were almost fought entirely by muslims in disguise. Same as the American civil war. Just muslims hacking at each other mercilessly.   

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Unforgiven on Sep 12th, 2015 at 4:16pm
It is the age old question. How and why are we here.

It is strange that people can believe that nothing would exist without divine intervention while they fail to understand that belief contravenes their belief in the supreme being because it would imply multiple layers of supreme beings creating their subordinate beings and their universes or pluriverses.

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 12th, 2015 at 4:27pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


it's only islam that fights all the time.
Yeah, I reckon the first and second world war bloodbaths were almost fought entirely by muslims in disguise. Same as the American civil war. Just muslims hacking at each other mercilessly.   


good to see you agree

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by Johnsmith on Sep 12th, 2015 at 6:14pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


it's only islam that fights all the time.
Yeah, I reckon the first and second world war bloodbaths were almost fought entirely by muslims in disguise. Same as the American civil war. Just muslims hacking at each other mercilessly.   


don't forget vietnam, the korean war, the Boer War, Napoleons battle with England, England v Spain, Irish wars   etc etc etc .

Title: Re: question about religion
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 12th, 2015 at 7:59pm

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:55am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Lot Of Shyte wrote on Sep 12th, 2015 at 8:06am:
What religion did god start?

If god started all 3 religion why are they fighting one and other?

They all pray to the same god or is there 3 different gods in the sky?


There are more than three religions. There are actually 12 classical world religions.

Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, and Zoroastrianism.

The reason that they fight all the time is that everyone thinks that there own religion is the right one.


it's only islam that fights all the time.
Yeah, I reckon the first and second world war bloodbaths were almost fought entirely by muslims in disguise. Same as the American civil war. Just muslims hacking at each other mercilessly.   


don't forget vietnam, the korean war, the Boer War, Napoleons battle with England, England v Spain, Irish wars   etc etc etc .
Exactly, and that's just the tip of the iceburg. The Opium Wars for god's sake, where England insisted on forcing opium down china's throat. The countless wars to subjugate India. You really have to be a blind western bigot to point to muslims and accuse them of incessantly warring against themselves. 

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