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The mistake wasn’t that you voted for him. In fact, you got one of the finest human beings to be Prime Minister In many ways he seemed too moral for the job, yet he achieved more in two years than the last two Labor prime ministers achieved in six. Compare. Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard left us with record deficits after blowing billions on trash — on overpriced school halls, “free” insulation that killed people, green schemes that collapsed, “stimulus” checks to the dead. They meanwhile opened our borders to 50,000 illegal immigrants and drowned 1200. They hyped the global warming scare and forced us to pay a job-killing carbon tax just to pretend they were saving us. But Abbott? I won’t go through the whole list: how he stopped the boats, curbed spending, scrapped the useless carbon and mining taxes, led the world’s defiance of deadly Russian strongman Vladimir Putin and made us safer from terrorism. He even signed three free trade deals to secure jobs for our kids — including one with China that the last three governments couldn’t clinch. And he did all this in the face of astonishing heckling and even vilification from our media class, and despite often feral opposition in the Senate. But your mistake was not to care about all that. Deeds didn’t count with you. Image was all. And so you told the pollsters you didn’t like Abbott. You believed the vicious crap written about him, until his MPs finally panicked and dumped him. Your mistake was that you couldn’t look behind the flim flam — the way Abbott looked, the way he spoke, the way he walked, the way he ate an onion — to see what he’d actually done for you and for your country You even laughed at some of his finest qualities and emblems of his public service. Journalists ridiculed his work as a lifesaver by mocking his costume and body hair. They dismissed his firefighting service as just a photo-op. Wrote off his patriotism as bigotry. When he defended women, he was called insincere. When he warned that our finances were in strife or that terrorism menaced us, they called him a scaremonger. And you believed them. You let people treat like absolute dirt a man who had a record of volunteerism no prime minister has equalled — working in Aboriginal communities, lifesaving, firefighting, helping people in natural disasters, and raising money for women’s shelters and a hospice for dying children. And none of it was done just to puff his CV for an election pamphlet. The only reason I know Abbott helped people secure their homes after one Sydney storm is that my wife’s uncle asked the head of the team getting the tree off his house if that really was Abbott over there, helping to cut it away. Shush, said the captain. He doesn’t like people knowing. Now, I must declare straight up — I call Tony Abbott a friend. So you’ll call me biased. You’ll laugh that I can write this massive praise of him when almost everyone else is horse-laughing. And you’ll say that’s why I see more qualities in Abbott than are actually there. But you’ll just be making another mistake. See, I don’t think Abbott is a great man because he’s my friend. He’s my friend because he’s a great man. Greater than the people who tore him down. He’s my friend especially because he’s not those things that so many journalists wrote — including some who must have known what they wrote were lies. Truth is that Abbott is not a thug, bully, racist, fool, liar, woman-hater, homophobe or bigot. He’s not cruel or lacking compassion. If he were any of those things he would not be my friend. Those are deal breakers for me. Those I love best are people of honour, warmth and kindness. Tony Abbott is one such man, and that he has been betrayed and deposed doesn’t just break my heart. It makes me fear for this country. I can only hope that Australians will one day wake up to what they’ve tossed away. Sorry to sound so melodramatic, but here are some glimpses of the man I know — ones that put the lie to the trash that even big-name correspondents peddled about him. A woman hater? Ask his daughters or female chief of staff. Ask the many women on his staff, so loyal that he had one of the lowest turnovers of modern prime ministers. A crash-through insensitive bully with no people skills? Ask my children how gentle he was when he called around. Ask one of my 2GB listeners, Pat, who rang in to say how moved he was that Abbott, on the way to a crucial Question Time on the day the carbon tax was repealed, still had the time to ring Pat’s dying brother. Or consider this: just minutes after Malcolm Turnbull told Abbott he was challenging for his job, Abbott still honoured a promise to meet girl guides, rather than hit the phones to save himself. Too loyal? Well, true, yet when I once asked why he wouldn’t buy off his critics by sacking Joe Hockey as Treasurer, Abbott told me he knew Hockey actually had the talent to be great, and would be if given another chance. A homophobe? Abbott actually had a deep friendship with one of my friends, too, the out-and-proud gay commentator Christopher Pearson, and even helped carry the coffin of this much-missed man.

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In fact, when one Fairfax writer this year accused Abbott — on entirely fictitious evidence — of having had a “possibly homophobic” moment, a gay adviser on Abbott’s staff texted me in rage: “If PM was so homophobic he wouldn’t be sharing the C1 car with me.” Every Prime Minister thinks they don’t get the press they deserve. But I bet Abbott’s friends would agree that none could have been so different in the flesh from what you read in the papers — and so much better. Shame on the journalists responsible for this great slander. Yes, I know Abbott made mistakes, and I was hard on the worst. I know he was too stubborn. And I know he was clumsy in selling himself. I admit I even quarrelled with him privately when he too-nobly refused to whack Labor leader Bill Shorten over some detail of national security. No, the country before politics, he declared. I could have shaken the silly bugger, who played politics like it was cricket when everyone else was cage fighting. God, he wouldn’t even do the populist thing and just promise to build our next submarines in Adelaide, and to hell with the cost or national interest. But that was Abbott, and for me character always counts in the end. That’s why I say: this country has despised and rejected a great servant. It is a time of sorrow.

Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated..

a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ...

but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum...

you deserve what you get...  >:(

Bolt nailed it..

That's why the media needs to be cleaned up. The Australian media is a political party as it is now-this must stop.

Turnbull must be removed by the grass roots voters at the next election. I could never vote for the left but the treacherous scum turnbull has to go.

Stop getting all sentimental about Abbott -

he's gone & it's the best solution.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 7:35am:

Stop getting all sentimental about Abbott - he's gone & it's the best solution.

bullshit...

they've kept every one of his policies and are trying to revive some of the ones the Feral Senate have already canned...

everyone knows that he was kicking ass on policies.. but oh on.. he walked a bit funny.. lets get rid of him..

smacking pathetic...  >:(

The Mechanic has been sniffing petrol again.

Where did you find that rubbish Mechanic, Murdoch press I imagine.

He was a useless pr1ck that got what he deserved.

He was an embarrassment every time he opened his mouth.

Andrew Bolt, I should have guessed, even the Mechanic is too embarrassed to acknowledge the writer in the Op or provide a link

Aborts vindictiviness will see him challenge for the job again , i doubt we have heard the last from the angry little sociopath

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had

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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had http://media.giphy.com/media/Ne7aenG4oM1Py/giphy.gif http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af26/Mamma4ever/Gifs%20for%20Blogging/funny/Ashton-Kutcher-laughing.gif

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Abbott - You made a Huge mistake dumping him..

Yes I think so too.

While we all have acknowledged that he was a dreadful PM IMO he was still the favourite to win the next election.

Changing Leaders at this time I feel has made them substantially more vulnerable. Particularly a nothing change like this one - one dumb bully with a replacement one man show who has both hands tied behind his back.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it..

I agree I have never seen such press as Tony got...and fairfax was relentless not one word of praise...

I have a feeling we will live to regret what this mob did...

turncoat is another krudd they even agreed on stuff didnt they>>>>.. and both stood in the wings waiting their chance to pounce in the mean time not quite fitting in with the govt of the day... ::) ::) ::).. extremely sneaky and conniving and indicative of their true nature.....

to witness people like Bishop and Pyne crawling up his bum was even more sickening......

I cant discribe how low I thought and still do think shortarse is for what he did

but the libs go a step lower..... I am still stunned they took this road.... >:( >:(

History will judge Tony... not the creeps on here...

and you will all be made to look like the fools you are...

POLLS.... bloody hilarious its a shame the country is now a laughing stock

but we shall see who has the last laugh....

we shall see...make the most of your sour grapes moments.. because they wont last..

remember the second coming... what was it 6 months... ;D ;D ;D ;D... of SMELL THE FEAR... then CRASH AND BURN>>

its always the same with lefties they never learn from their mistakes  they keep repeat repeat repeating them...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

cods wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 10:05am:

but the libs go a step lower..... I am still stunned they took this road.... >:( >:(

I'm not sure why you're stunned.

"Since 1966 ... it has been the exception rather than the rule that the people decide who should be prime minister."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-28/cassidy-prime-ministerial-trivia/4284398

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ...

are you drunk? he was the worst PM in out history

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ...  are you drunk? he was the worst PM in out history

Yes, and yes.

The trade agreements - I'd forgotten them. Yes, these are part of Abbott's legacy. The one with China, in particular, is big.

Abbott deserves credit for these.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

The trade agreements - I'd forgotten them. Yes, these are part of Abbott's legacy. The one with China, in particular, is big. Abbott deserves credit for these.

Most of the work was already done long before he came into govt. All he did was buckle on the few sticking points that remained and he signed them. He needed something to claim as his legacy, everything else was falling down around him.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 10:15am:

cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:05am: but the libs go a step lower..... I am still stunned they took this road.... >:( >:( I'm not sure why you're stunned. "Since 1966 ... it has been the exception rather than the rule that the people decide who should be prime minister." [url]http://www.ab greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:15am: cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:05am: but the libs go a step lower..... I am still stunned they took this road.... >:( >:( I'm not sure why you're stunned. "Since 1966 ... it has been the exception rather than the rule that the people decide who should be prime minister." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-28/cassidy-prime-ministerial-trivia/4284398 c.net.au/news/2012-09-28/cassidy-prime-ministerial-trivia/4284398[/url]

yes have to admit I forgot Gorton..... and look how that turned out?.. but I am not looking at what happens in opposition...to me thats standard  its like the captain of the team... however the PM.. is a whole different ball game...

and even you would have to admit watching shortarse destroy labor was not a PRETTY SIGHT...

it is one you would like to forget and hope history will forget it as well...

but it wont..

I always said Howard should have stepped aside for Costello...it was the correct and ethical thing to do...

there is and never will be anything ETHICAL about what this motley crew have done...at least not in my book...

I know some folks love underhand...I am just not one of them

10 people voted against Tony

I have forgotten the score with Labor but Kevin changed the rules so just a certain few could never do that to a Labor PM again....

why did he do that?... do you think?.. ::) ::) ::)

seeing as how he was on  both ends of that sticky stick.!!!

I note Bolt did not give credit to Labor for the two of the biggest policy changes in the last decade, NDIS and Gonski. Saying sorry to the stolen generation (Bolt denies this ever happened) started the conversation on Aboriginal reconciliation. Abbott has done nothing for Aboriginal people worth any substance.

However the problem Bolt has is he glossed over Abbott's lies and backflips like they where irrelevant and had no bearing on his ultimate demise....Abbott has done nothing worthwhile for the nation and has put the nation in a far worse position than when he came to office...No one likes a liar and a fraud Mr Bolt and although you cannot see any failings in Abbott's bullshit the public are not as bigoted and stupid as you take them for....Abbott was a failure as a PM and deserves the criticism he levelled at everyone else!!!

:) :) :)

The history of our race, and each individual's experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), Advice to Youth

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it..

Abbott was dumped by his own party not because of members on this forum or some bullshit about media bias....Abbott was criticised because he deserved it after his lies and backflips....If you want to put the blame where it belongs look no further than the Liberal Party of Australia mate...Its always someone else's fault with you lot!!!

::) ::) ::)

You cannot have a proud and chivalrous spirit if your conduct is mean and paltry; for whatever a man's actions are, such must be his spirit.
Demosthenes (384 BC - 322 BC), Third Olynthiac

cods wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 10:37am:

10 people voted against Tony

54 voted against Tony.

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:25am: The trade agreements - I'd forgotten them. Yes, these are part of Abbott's legacy. The one with China, in particular, is big. Abbott deserves credit for these. Most of the work was already done long before he came into govt. All he did was buckle on the few sticking points that remained and he signed them. He needed something to claim as his legacy, everything else was falling down around him.

True, but he could have axed them or stuffed them up, which was his pattern.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 11:14am:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:32am: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:25am: The trade agreements - I'd forgotten them. Yes, these are part of Abbott's legacy. The one with China, in particular, is big. Abbott deserves credit for these. Most of the work was already done long before he came into govt. All he did was buckle on the few sticking points that remained and he signed them. He needed something to claim as his legacy, everything else was falling down around him. True, but he could have axed them or stuffed them up, which was his pattern.

he did stuff them up ... we have a FTA with japan, one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, that prohibits our spare parts (gearbox) manufacturers from selling their wares in Japan

we have a FTA with China that lets the Chinese bring in foreign workers with no regard for locals.

Abbott was a goose who's only concern was that he get the photo opp, regardless of what it cost us.

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 11:23am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 11:14am: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:32am: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:25am: The trade agreements - I'd forgotten them. Yes, these are part of Abbott's legacy. The one with China, in particular, is big. Abbott deserves credit for these. Most of the work was already done long before he came into govt. All he did was buckle on the few sticking points that remained and he signed them. He needed something to claim as his legacy, everything else was falling down around him. True, but he could have axed them or stuffed them up, which was his pattern. he did stuff them up ... we have a FTA with japan, one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, that prohibits our spare parts (gearbox) manufacturers from selling their wares in Japan we have a FTA with China that lets the Chinese bring in foreign workers with no regard for locals. Abbott was a goose who's only concern was that he get the photo opp, regardless of what it cost us.

Yes, he was a goose.

Speaking of geese ...


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I think the goose has changed his name.

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Abbott - You made a Huge mistake dumping him.

The people who dumped Abbott where members of the same two faced party you voted for....Once again we see the Liberal faithful blaming everyone else but themselves for their problems....The Australian public have a right to be upset that they never got the chance to throw out the bastard themselves....The LNP have nothing to be proud of and need to man up to their own actions!!!

::) ::) ::)

Re the FTAs I said that abbott made a huge mistake saying he wanted the FTAs signed by certain days, the other countries just had to sit there and do nothing and we would have to capitulate to get the damn things signed. That happened.

That alone made abbott a very bad PM.

He also cut funding to Domestic violence, cutting funding for refuges and for legal advice centres dealing just with DV. Given that, I find it incredible any female can say a good word for our immediate past PM!

Another crap thing he did, looking at ways to rain in his out of control spending, he would have included the tax exemptions for super which are growing out of control! But because Labor suggested a couple of savings he ruled them out straight away. That is not the action of even a slightly competent PM!

Tony had to go, but I was under no illusions that Turncoat was in any way shape or form progressive.

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 11:23am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 11:14am: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:32am: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:25am: The trade agreements - I'd forgotten them. Yes, these are part of Abbott's legacy. The one with China, in particular, is big. Abbott deserves credit for these. Most of the work was already done long before he came into govt. All he did was buckle on the few sticking points that remained and he signed them. He needed something to claim as his legacy, everything else was falling down around him. True, but he could have axed them or stuffed them up, which was his pattern. he did stuff them up ... we have a FTA with japan, one of the largest car manufacturers in the world, that prohibits our spare parts (gearbox) manufacturers from selling their wares in Japan we have a FTA with China that lets the Chinese bring in foreign workers with no regard for locals. Abbott was a goose who's only concern was that he get the photo opp, regardless of what it cost us.

And a deal with China to let us send our workers and services to them.

Let's face it, labour mobility is crucial in a globalized market. This works for us. Any foreign sub manufacturers, for example, who make subs here are going to need to send their experts over.

Trade is increasingly in services, not goods. If you're trading services, people need to move around.

I'm giving Abbott a tick for his trade-agreements.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

Re the FTAs I said that abbott made a huge mistake saying he wanted the FTAs signed by certain days, the other countries just had to sit there and do nothing and we would have to capitulate to get the damn things signed. That happened.

The politics of trade agreements are another matter. Ministers need to be able to make deals with their foreign counterparts. Putting everything before a partisan parliament doesn't work. Having an opposition shoot them down during the negotiation is not a good way to do business.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 11:58am: Re the FTAs I said that abbott made a huge mistake saying he wanted the FTAs signed by certain days, the other countries just had to sit there and do nothing and we would have to capitulate to get the damn things signed. That happened. The politics of trade agreements are another matter. Ministers need to be able to make deals with their foreign counterparts. Putting everything before a partisan parliament doesn't work. Having an opposition shoot them down during the negotiation is not a good way to do business.

What are you talking about? that has NOTHING to do with what I said!

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 11:59am:

And a deal with China to let us send our workers and services to them. Let's face it, labour mobility is crucial in a globalized market. This works for us. Any foreign sub manufacturers, for example, who make subs here are going to need to send their experts over. Trade is increasingly in services, not goods. If you're trading services, people need to move around. I'm giving Abbott a tick for his trade-agreements.

Companies are already able to send 'experts' over here. Especially is such specialised fields as Submarine building. The China FTA however will allow the Chinese to buy a farm (for example) and then import farmhands or abattoir workers to do the work, at the expense of locals.  An exchange of workers can only work if it goes both ways. Whilst on paper China may have agreed to allow some of our workers their, the reality is very few Aussies will go to work in China to earn $2 a day.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Ministers need to be able to make deals with their foreign counterparts. Putting everything before a partisan parliament doesn't work. Having an opposition shoot them down during the negotiation is not a good way to do business.

Ministers do not have carte blanche to do as they wish on these deals.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 12:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:04pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 11:58am: Re the FTAs I said that abbott made a huge mistake saying he wanted the FTAs signed by certain days, the other countries just had to sit there and do nothing and we would have to capitulate to get the damn things signed. That happened. The politics of trade agreements are another matter. Ministers need to be able to make deals with their foreign counterparts. Putting everything before a partisan parliament doesn't work. Having an opposition shoot them down during the negotiation is not a good way to do business. What are you talking about? that has NOTHING to do with what I said!

Ah.

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 12:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 11:59am: And a deal with China to let us send our workers and services to them. Let's face it, labour mobility is crucial in a globalized market. This works for us. Any foreign sub manufacturers, for example, who make subs here are going to need to send their experts over. Trade is increasingly in services, not goods. If you're trading services, people need to move around. I'm giving Abbott a tick for his trade-agreements. Companies are already able to send 'experts' over here. Especially is such specialised fields as Submarine building. The China FTA however will allow the Chinese to buy a farm (for example) and then import farmhands or abattoir workers to do the work, at the expense of locals.

I wonder if that's right. If it is, what we're facing is a massive flood of Chinese investment, ownership and cheap labour. This doesn't ring true to me. We already have 457 visas that do a similar thing.

I agree that foreign companies should be made to scout the local labour market first, before flying people in.

Sure ministers don't have carte blanche. But in foreign relations, you can't put every deal before a politicized body, such as a parliament.

The China free trade deal is different, of course. It's a big one. But the ALP are being a little too tricky for their own good here.

This deal should pass.

Poooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Bolt . ;D ;D ;D ;D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 12:42pm:

Poooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Bolt . ;D ;D ;D ;D

I love how Bolt blames the media. Bolt has been an active part of Abbott's Pravda. News Ltd owns 70% of print news in Australia.

That's the same News Ltd that impaled two previous prime ministers on the daily front pages of each of its capital city tabloids.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 12:28pm:

I wonder if that's right. If it is, what we're facing is a massive flood of Chinese investment, ownership and cheap labour. This doesn't ring true to me. We already have 457 visas that do a similar thing. I agree that foreign companies should be made to scout the local labour market first, before flying people in. Sure ministers don't have carte blanche. But in foreign relations, you can't put every deal before a politicized body, such as a parliament. The China free trade deal is different, of course. It's a big one. But the ALP are being a little too tricky for their own good here. This deal should pass.

and it will. Labor has always said that it supports the deal. It just wants to make sure the Chinese can't bring in cheap foreign labor willy nilly. I'm not sure why the libs are fighting this so hard. It can only make them look bad if they fight for Chinese labour.

I personally don't see labor protecting Aussie jobs as a bad thing, Someone has to stand up for the Aussies.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 1:09pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:42pm: Poooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Bolt . ;D ;D ;D ;D I love how Bolt blames the media. Bolt has been an active part of Abbott's Pravda. News Ltd owns 70% of print news in Australia. That's the same News Ltd that impaled two previous prime ministers on the daily front pages of each of its capital city tabloids.

I love the basic thrust of what Bolt wrote which is that Abbot is a great fella because he, Bolt, allowed Abbott to be his friend.  Ferk me, what an ego!

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 1:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:28pm: I wonder if that's right. If it is, what we're facing is a massive flood of Chinese investment, ownership and cheap labour. This doesn't ring true to me. We already have 457 visas that do a similar thing. I agree that foreign companies should be made to scout the local labour market first, before flying people in. Sure ministers don't have carte blanche. But in foreign relations, you can't put every deal before a politicized body, such as a parliament. The China free trade deal is different, of course. It's a big one. But the ALP are being a little too tricky for their own good here. This deal should pass. and it will. Labor has always said that it supports the deal. It just wants to make sure the Chinese can't bring in cheap foreign labor willy nilly. I'm not sure why the libs are fighting this so hard. It can only make them look bad if they fight for Chinese labour. I personally don't see labor protecting Aussie jobs as a bad thing, Someone has to stand up for the Aussies.

We can do better than Labor, Labors credibility was lost when their last circus was in charge.

Aussie wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 1:09pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:42pm: Poooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Bolt . ;D ;D ;D ;D I love how Bolt blames the media. Bolt has been an active part of Abbott's Pravda. News Ltd owns 70% of print news in Australia. That's the same News Ltd that impaled two previous prime ministers on the daily front pages of each of its capital city tabloids. I love the basic thrust of what Bolt wrote which is that Abbot is a great fella because he, Bolt, allowed Abbott to be his friend.  Ferk me, what an ego!

Exactly. Mates. All that guff about conservatives is utter krap.

Bolt's not a conservative, he just has mates.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 1:38pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:28pm: I wonder if that's right. If it is, what we're facing is a massive flood of Chinese investment, ownership and cheap labour. This doesn't ring true to me. We already have 457 visas that do a similar thing. I agree that foreign companies should be made to scout the local labour market first, before flying people in. Sure ministers don't have carte blanche. But in foreign relations, you can't put every deal before a politicized body, such as a parliament. The China free trade deal is different, of course. It's a big one. But the ALP are being a little too tricky for their own good here. This deal should pass. and it will. Labor has always said that it supports the deal. It just wants to make sure the Chinese can't bring in cheap foreign labor willy nilly. I'm not sure why the libs are fighting this so hard. It can only make them look bad if they fight for Chinese labour. I personally don't see labor protecting Aussie jobs as a bad thing, Someone has to stand up for the Aussies. We can do better than Labor, Labors credibility was lost when their last circus was in charge.

We can do better than Labor

Problem is that you not only have not done better but that you have not done anywhere near as well.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:07pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 2:58pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 1:38pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:28pm: I wonder if that's right. If it is, what we're facing is a massive flood of Chinese investment, ownership and cheap labour. This doesn't ring true to me. We already have 457 visas that do a similar thing. I agree that foreign companies should be made to scout the local labour market first, before flying people in. Sure ministers don't have carte blanche. But in foreign relations, you can't put every deal before a politicized body, such as a parliament. The China free trade deal is different, of course. It's a big one. But the ALP are being a little too tricky for their own good here. This deal should pass. and it will. Labor has always said that it supports the deal. It just wants to make sure the Chinese can't bring in cheap foreign labor willy nilly. I'm not sure why the libs are fighting this so hard. It can only make them look bad if they fight for Chinese labour. I personally don't see labor protecting Aussie jobs as a bad thing, Someone has to stand up for the Aussies. We can do better than Labor, Labors credibility was lost when their last circus was in charge. We can do better than Labor Problem is that you not only have not done better but that you have not done anywhere near as well.

We can do better than Shorten.

Going back to either Rudd or Gillard would be a huge improvement.

At least they weren't rapists and could speak publicly albeit both clowns that will never run this country again.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

At least they weren't rapists and could speak publicly albeit both clowns that will never run this country again.

Exactly. They could speak very well publicly and were on top of each and every brief. Hopefully, we'll have a similar leader in Turnbull.

we definitely don't have it in Shorten.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:13pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:11pm: At least they weren't rapists and could speak publicly albeit both clowns that will never run this country again. Exactly. They could speak very well publicly and were on top of each and every brief. Hopefully, we'll have a similar leader in Turnbull. we definitely don't have it in Shorten.

I would remove very well from that sentence. At least they tried albeit being backstabbing clownery most the time. Gillard had issues stringing two words together and rudd was too busy choking on his own ego which was hilarious.

Shorten just hides. The Libs have something on him and he knows it.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 1:38pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:28pm: I wonder if that's right. If it is, what we're facing is a massive flood of Chinese investment, ownership and cheap labour. This doesn't ring true to me. We already have 457 visas that do a similar thing. I agree that foreign companies should be made to scout the local labour market first, before flying people in. Sure ministers don't have carte blanche. But in foreign relations, you can't put every deal before a politicized body, such as a parliament. The China free trade deal is different, of course. It's a big one. But the ALP are being a little too tricky for their own good here. This deal should pass. and it will. Labor has always said that it supports the deal. It just wants to make sure the Chinese can't bring in cheap foreign labor willy nilly. I'm not sure why the libs are fighting this so hard. It can only make them look bad if they fight for Chinese labour. I personally don't see labor protecting Aussie jobs as a bad thing, Someone has to stand up for the Aussies. We can do better than Labor, Labors credibility was lost when their last circus was in charge.

labor actually did a pretty good ob under tough times if you ignore the bickering between rudd and gillard.... Abbotts crying about being hamstrung by the senate and he had a majority govt. Imagine if he had to deal with a hung parliament? he'd have spent 2 years hiding in his office twiddling his thumbs crying it's everyone else's fault.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:07pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 2:58pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 1:38pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 12:28pm: I wonder if that's right. If it is, what we're facing is a massive flood of Chinese investment, ownership and cheap labour. This doesn't ring true to me. We already have 457 visas that do a similar thing. I agree that foreign companies should be made to scout the local labour market first, before flying people in. Sure ministers don't have carte blanche. But in foreign relations, you can't put every deal before a politicized body, such as a parliament. The China free trade deal is different, of course. It's a big one. But the ALP are being a little too tricky for their own good here. This deal should pass. and it will. Labor has always said that it supports the deal. It just wants to make sure the Chinese can't bring in cheap foreign labor willy nilly. I'm not sure why the libs are fighting this so hard. It can only make them look bad if they fight for Chinese labour. I personally don't see labor protecting Aussie jobs as a bad thing, Someone has to stand up for the Aussies. We can do better than Labor, Labors credibility was lost when their last circus was in charge. We can do better than Labor Problem is that you not only have not done better but that you have not done anywhere near as well. We can do better than Shorten. Going back to either Rudd or Gillard would be a huge improvement.

Gillard yes Rudd probably not.

Shorten is an unknown, we do know that every time he has stepped forward in a speech situation like the budget reply or other occasions he carved tony & Joe up.

I suspect that there could well be more substance there than a number of posters here think.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Gillard had issues stringing two words together

rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker.

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:21pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker.

;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip.

Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool.

Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:13pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:11pm: At least they weren't rapists and could speak publicly albeit both clowns that will never run this country again. Exactly. They could speak very well publicly and were on top of each and every brief. Hopefully, we'll have a similar leader in Turnbull. we definitely don't have it in Shorten. I would remove very well from that sentence. At least they tried albeit being backstabbing clownery most the time. Gillard had issues stringing two words together and rudd was too busy choking on his own ego which was hilarious. Shorten just hides. The Libs have something on him and he knows it.

Tony was great at stringing 2 words together, he used a classic trick - always repeat the same word twice and it normally had one syllable or less. He did however have a significant issue with 3 words at the same time.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool.

Your view has failed all credibility testing.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:24pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:13pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:11pm: At least they weren't rapists and could speak publicly albeit both clowns that will never run this country again. Exactly. They could speak very well publicly and were on top of each and every brief. Hopefully, we'll have a similar leader in Turnbull. we definitely don't have it in Shorten. I would remove very well from that sentence. At least they tried albeit being backstabbing clownery most the time. Gillard had issues stringing two words together and rudd was too busy choking on his own ego which was hilarious. Shorten just hides. The Libs have something on him and he knows it. Tony was great at stringing 2 words together, he used a classic trick - always repeat the same word twice and it normally had one syllable or less. He did however have a significant issue with 3 words at the same time.

Agreed

Dnarever wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:25pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Your view has failed all credibility testing.

According to a rusted on, I don't think so. Maybe in your little world.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them.

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Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them. Can I recommend you use http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8cd19cd2-256e-41dc-b5f7-7d5c57cfcb03_300.jpg

You're clearly the rusted on not champ. Spray away.Let me know how you go. You might like to give DNA a squirt or two as well.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Gillard had issues stringing two words together

Gillard was a consummate communicator. Endearing, personable, and direct. She had all the answers and she didn't shy away from stating them. She had an excellent sense of humour.

There is no comparison between a politician like Gillard and one Tony Abbott. Abbott would not even go on Q&A. He rarely faced the public without at least 5 flags and minders fencing the questions. And when he answered them, he always put his foot in it.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:26pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them. Can I recommend you use http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8cd19cd2-256e-41dc-b5f7-7d5c57cfcb03_300.jpg You're clearly the rusted on not champ. Spray away.Let me know how you go. You might like to give DNA a squirt or two as well.

Apparently you out do me in the rusted on stakes. You can't even give gillard her dues in regards to her public speaking. She was a brilliant public speaker. You can bitch about her voice, you can cry about her message, but don't pretend she couldn't speak.

Gillard was a class clown act, a total idiot nothing more, only idiots or bogans would consider that twat intelligent. As far as Q&A were concerned why would anyone other than a rusted on labor supporter or greeny want to go on that ridiculous show. Its a bunch of lefties in a room with recording gear and a bunch of their mates pretending to be an audience. Gosh what a waste of time that would be. What a waste of tax payers money is that ABC.

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:29pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:26pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them. Can I recommend you use http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8cd19cd2-256e-41dc-b5f7-7d5c57cfcb03_300.jpg You're clearly the rusted on not champ. Spray away.Let me know how you go. You might like to give DNA a squirt or two as well. Apparently you out do me in the rusted on stakes. You can't even give gillard her dues in regards to her public speaking. She was a brilliant public speaker. You can bitch about her voice, you can cry about her message, but don't pretend she couldn't speak.

Apparently not. You responded like a true rusted on. Gillard is getting her dues. I am astonished you think she was a brilliant public speaker she was atrocious and most cringed whenever she opened her mouth. Clearly you have not scene a good speaker. She certainly spoke alright she spoke utter nonsensical rubbish. Shouting out misogynist over and over again like a silly little child. She made an utter fool of herself locally and intentionally. Now she can own her own nonsense and get her dues as you say.

I didn't vote him out -= his party did..... now it is they who have to live with the consequences - and may those consequences be worthy of the occasion......

Put a red nose on Gillard and the character would have been complete.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:39pm:

I didn't vote him out -= his party did..... now it is they who have to live with the consequences - and may those consequences be worthy of the occasion......

Yep so true. All they did was slum it down labor style. Lost all credibility down in the gutter because of one mans ego.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:39pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:34pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:29pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:26pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them. Can I recommend you use http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8cd19cd2-256e-41dc-b5f7-7d5c57cfcb03_300.jpg You're clearly the rusted on not champ. Spray away.Let me know how you go. You might like to give DNA a squirt or two as well. Apparently you out do me in the rusted on stakes. You can't even give gillard her dues in regards to her public speaking. She was a brilliant public speaker. You can bitch about her voice, you can cry about her message, but don't pretend she couldn't speak. Apparently not. You responded like a true rusted on. Gillard is getting her dues. I am astonished you think she was a brilliant public speaker she was atrocious and most cringed whenever she opened her mouth. Clearly you have not scene a good speaker. She certainly spoke alright she spoke utter nonsensical rubbish. Shouting out misogynist over and over again like a silly little child. She made an utter fool of herself locally and intentionally. Now she can own her own nonsense and get her dues as you say.

you keep going back to the misogynist speech as if it's the only time she spoke. It was one speech in thousands, and the world praised her for it. Only Murdocks lackeys thought it was a bad speech :D :D :D

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

Put a red nose on Gillard and the character would have been complete.

Rusted–on crap!

At least I give Howard credit for the gun buy-back and abbott credit for fixing the excise for small breweries so they don’t have to pay like the big brewers.

When I criticise I give real reasons: Howard for being a dessicated, mean spirited little turd who with Costello pissed $350Bn of boom time revenue up the wall.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:35pm:

Gillard was a class clown act, a total idiot nothing more, only idiots or bogans would consider that twat intelligent. As far as Q&A were concerned why would anyone other than a rusted on labor supporter or greeny want to go on that ridiculous show. Its a bunch of lefties in a room with recording gear and a bunch of their mates pretending to be an audience. Gosh what a waste of time that would be. What a waste of tax payers money is that ABC.

You're working yourself up again, Matty. You know what happens when you do that.

Abbott himself praised Gillard for the above. Abbott's praises were outshone by the independents,  Oakeshot and Windsor.

Unlike Abbott, Gillard has proven to be gracious in defeat. She lived her political death like she lived her political life: with dignity and integrity.

Tony Abbott has a lot to learn.

cods wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 10:05am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I agree I have never seen such press as Tony got...and fairfax was relentless not one word of praise... :( >:(

Absolutely stunningly clueless comment.

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:39pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:34pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:29pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:26pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them. Can I recommend you use http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8cd19cd2-256e-41dc-b5f7-7d5c57cfcb03_300.jpg You're clearly the rusted on not champ. Spray away.Let me know how you go. You might like to give DNA a squirt or two as well. Apparently you out do me in the rusted on stakes. You can't even give gillard her dues in regards to her public speaking. She was a brilliant public speaker. You can bitch about her voice, you can cry about her message, but don't pretend she couldn't speak. Apparently not. You responded like a true rusted on. Gillard is getting her dues. I am astonished you think she was a brilliant public speaker she was atrocious and most cringed whenever she opened her mouth. Clearly you have not scene a good speaker. She certainly spoke alright she spoke utter nonsensical rubbish. Shouting out misogynist over and over again like a silly little child. She made an utter fool of herself locally and intentionally. Now she can own her own nonsense and get her dues as you say. you keep going back to the misogynist speech as if it's the only time she spoke. It was one speech in thousands, and the world praised her for it. Only Murdocks lackeys thought it was a bad speech :D :D :D

;D ;D ;D Ah you are so funny. Keep going. The world never praised her for it at all she was ridiculed for the fool she was being. Get a grip.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:47pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:35pm: Gillard was a class clown act, a total idiot nothing more, only idiots or bogans would consider that twat intelligent. As far as Q&A were concerned why would anyone other than a rusted on labor supporter or greeny want to go on that ridiculous show. Its a bunch of lefties in a room with recording gear and a bunch of their mates pretending to be an audience. Gosh what a waste of time that would be. What a waste of tax payers money is that ABC. You're working yourself up again, Matty. You know what happens when you do that. Abbott himself praised Gillard for the above. Abbott's praises were outshone by the independents,  Oakeshot and Windsor. Unlike Abbott, Gillard has proven to be gracious in defeat. She lived her political death like she lived her political life: with dignity and integrity. Tony Abbott has a lot to learn.

Oh here we go, when karnel gets upset out comes the matty this matty that. If you are incapable of maintaining composure simply don't post.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:42pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:39pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:34pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:29pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:26pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them. Can I recommend you use http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8cd19cd2-256e-41dc-b5f7-7d5c57cfcb03_300.jpg You're clearly the rusted on not champ. Spray away.Let me know how you go. You might like to give DNA a squirt or two as well. Apparently you out do me in the rusted on stakes. You can't even give gillard her dues in regards to her public speaking. She was a brilliant public speaker. You can bitch about her voice, you can cry about her message, but don't pretend she couldn't speak. Apparently not. You responded like a true rusted on. Gillard is getting her dues. I am astonished you think she was a brilliant public speaker she was atrocious and most cringed whenever she opened her mouth. Clearly you have not scene a good speaker. She certainly spoke alright she spoke utter nonsensical rubbish. Shouting out misogynist over and over again like a silly little child. She made an utter fool of herself locally and intentionally. Now she can own her own nonsense and get her dues as you say. you keep going back to the misogynist speech as if it's the only time she spoke. It was one speech in thousands, and the world praised her for it. Only Murdocks lackeys thought it was a bad speech :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Ah you are so funny. Keep going. The world never praised her for it at all she was ridiculed for the fool she was being. Get a grip.

ridiculed by whom? you and Bolt?   like that counts  :D :D :D :D

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:06pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:58pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:42pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:39pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:34pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:29pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:26pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them. Can I recommend you use http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8cd19cd2-256e-41dc-b5f7-7d5c57cfcb03_300.jpg You're clearly the rusted on not champ. Spray away.Let me know how you go. You might like to give DNA a squirt or two as well. Apparently you out do me in the rusted on stakes. You can't even give gillard her dues in regards to her public speaking. She was a brilliant public speaker. You can bitch about her voice, you can cry about her message, but don't pretend she couldn't speak. Apparently not. You responded like a true rusted on. Gillard is getting her dues. I am astonished you think she was a brilliant public speaker she was atrocious and most cringed whenever she opened her mouth. Clearly you have not scene a good speaker. She certainly spoke alright she spoke utter nonsensical rubbish. Shouting out misogynist over and over again like a silly little child. She made an utter fool of herself locally and intentionally. Now she can own her own nonsense and get her dues as you say. you keep going back to the misogynist speech as if it's the only time she spoke. It was one speech in thousands, and the world praised her for it. Only Murdocks lackeys thought it was a bad speech :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Ah you are so funny. Keep going. The world never praised her for it at all she was ridiculed for the fool she was being. Get a grip. ridiculed by whom? you and Bolt?   like that counts  :D :D :D :D

The media and international media. Its astonishing you see the gillard rant as positive, and you reckon you are not rusted on. ;D

doesn't look much like ridicule to me


And The New Yorker has also praised her, claiming that Barack Obama could learn a thing or two from Julia Gillard.

The Feminist Ladies and Gentlemen of Twitter have united in praise for our PM.

Many are saying this speech will be an iconic one in the history of Australian politics and international feminism.

Read more at http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/why-julia-gillards-smackdown-speech-was-brilliant/#yTOtjTHw2qK6Apl7.99


http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/why-julia-gillards-smackdown-speech-was-brilliant/



The UK's Spectator magazine said there was "much to admire" in Ms Gillard's address.

The Daily Beast noted that Ms Gillard's speech would bring a smile to the face of former British leader Margaret Thatcher, while Business Insider said she gave Mr Abbott a "stern drubbing".

US feminist blog Jezebel called the Prime Minister "badass", while news blog Salon magazine speculated on whether Ms Gillard would take requests to "take on Congress's misogynist caucus".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-10/international-reaction-to-gillard-speech/4305294

Julia Gillard’s fiery speech in parliament yesterday has made headlines around the world, with commentators from independent media sites declaring the performance a blistering success.    

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2012/10/10/awesome-julia-gillard-speech-goes-viral

NEWLY re-elected US President Barack Obama complimented Julia Gillard on her "sexism" speech to Parliament when he telephoned her last night.

http://www.news.com.au/national/obama-praises-gillards-sexism-speech/story-fndo4eg9-1226513851310


Prime Minister Julia Gillard has been praised at an International summit in Laos for her misogyny speech in parliament last month.

The prime minister’s fiery 15-minute address to the Australian parliament, where she branded Opposition Leader Tony Abbott a misogynist, went viral worldwide, making news headlines and dominating social media.

The French President Francois Hollande among others, commended the Prime Minister on her speech during sideline talks at the conference.

http://seeseeeye.csu.edu.au/nrn/gillard-praised-for-misogyny-speech/


you should read something other than the Smellograph
:D :D :D

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:06pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:58pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:42pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:39pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:34pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:29pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:26pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:23pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:21pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:17pm: Gillard had issues stringing two words together rubbish ... Gillard was a pretty good speaker. ;D ;D ;D You are clearly a rusted on. She warbled and nearly lied every time she opened her mouth  and her silly misogynist comment was ludicrous and rendered her a joke to the international community from that day forth. She never ever sounded like a woman. Get a grip. Rudd was a kid in a candy store and an utter fool. Bubble head Shorten is fed his speeches if in fact he actually has the courage to go public with them. Can I recommend you use http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8cd19cd2-256e-41dc-b5f7-7d5c57cfcb03_300.jpg You're clearly the rusted on not champ. Spray away.Let me know how you go. You might like to give DNA a squirt or two as well. Apparently you out do me in the rusted on stakes. You can't even give gillard her dues in regards to her public speaking. She was a brilliant public speaker. You can bitch about her voice, you can cry about her message, but don't pretend she couldn't speak. Apparently not. You responded like a true rusted on. Gillard is getting her dues. I am astonished you think she was a brilliant public speaker she was atrocious and most cringed whenever she opened her mouth. Clearly you have not scene a good speaker. She certainly spoke alright she spoke utter nonsensical rubbish. Shouting out misogynist over and over again like a silly little child. She made an utter fool of herself locally and intentionally. Now she can own her own nonsense and get her dues as you say. you keep going back to the misogynist speech as if it's the only time she spoke. It was one speech in thousands, and the world praised her for it. Only Murdocks lackeys thought it was a bad speech :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Ah you are so funny. Keep going. The world never praised her for it at all she was ridiculed for the fool she was being. Get a grip. ridiculed by whom? you and Bolt?   like that counts  :D :D :D :D The media and international media.

Hang on, isn't that what they did to poor old Mr Abbott?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 7:19am:

Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it..

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

The article is not accredited, but I suppose Bolt wrote it.

:'( :'( :'( :'( crocodile tears  ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

as Lisa would say lmao ....she says lmfao but I don't have a fat r's

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. The article is not accredited, but I suppose Bolt wrote it.

Bolt, Piers, Miranda Divine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtson, or any number of media commentators who had it out for poor old Mr Abbott.

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:05am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I agree I have never seen such press as Tony got...and fairfax was relentless not one word of praise... :( >:( Absolutely stunningly clueless comment.

Abbott got thrashed by social media more than the press.

Gillard got thrashed by the press more than social media.

Gillard didn't have a cry after it finished her off, she got on with the rest of her life......Abbott  should do the same.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:28pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. The article is not accredited, but I suppose Bolt wrote it. Bolt, Piers, Miranda Divine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtson, or any number of media commentators who had it out for poor old Mr Abbott.

It was Bolt.

Link.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:48pm: cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:05am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I agree I have never seen such press as Tony got...and fairfax was relentless not one word of praise... :( >:( Absolutely stunningly clueless comment. Abbott got thrashed by social media more than the press. Gillard got thrashed by the press more than social media. Gillard didn't have a cry after it finished her off, she got on with the rest of her life......Abbott  should do the same.

Maybe he should have a good sook like Rudd did.

Aussie wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:28pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. The article is not accredited, but I suppose Bolt wrote it. Bolt, Piers, Miranda Divine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtson, or any number of media commentators who had it out for poor old Mr Abbott. It was Bolt. Link.

Well, he'd know, he's Mr Abbott's best friend. He's also the most read columnist in Australia.

How could the media do such a thing to our Prime Minister?

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:39pm: I didn't vote him out -= his party did..... now it is they who have to live with the consequences - and may those consequences be worthy of the occasion...... Yep so true. All they did was slum it down labor style.

You don't know much anything about Australian political history, do you?

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:47pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:35pm: Gillard was a class clown act, a total idiot nothing more, only idiots or bogans would consider that twat intelligent. As far as Q&A were concerned why would anyone other than a rusted on labor supporter or greeny want to go on that ridiculous show. Its a bunch of lefties in a room with recording gear and a bunch of their mates pretending to be an audience. Gosh what a waste of time that would be. What a waste of tax payers money is that ABC. You're working yourself up again, Matty. You know what happens when you do that. Abbott himself praised Gillard for the above. Abbott's praises were outshone by the independents,  Oakeshot and Windsor. Unlike Abbott, Gillard has proven to be gracious in defeat. She lived her political death like she lived her political life: with dignity and integrity. Tony Abbott has a lot to learn. Oh here we go, when karnel gets upset out comes the matty this matty that. If you are incapable of maintaining composure simply don't post.

Are you going to get cranky when you come back as another poster and we call you Ordinary?

I'm curious.

There is no we Einstein only you. You accusing everyone of being matty when you get upset is a bore. If in doubt try and make out everyone has multiple ID's and they are upset with you.

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

There is no we Einstein only you. You accusing everyone of being matty when you get upset is a bore. If in doubt try and make out everyone has multiple ID's and they are upset with you.

I'll take it that's a yes, Ordinary.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:10pm: There is no we Einstein only you. You accusing everyone of being matty when you get upset is a bore. If in doubt try and make out everyone has multiple ID's and they are upset with you. I'll take it that's a yes, Ordinary.

I don't care how you take it, clearly you are illiterate. No surprises there I guess given your background mate.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:28pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. The article is not accredited, but I suppose Bolt wrote it. Bolt, Piers, Miranda Divine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtson, or any number of media commentators who had it out for poor old Mr Abbott.

Are you taking the p1ss?

Gerard Henderson?

Mmmmm yes you are, luv it!

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:12pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:10pm: There is no we Einstein only you. You accusing everyone of being matty when you get upset is a bore. If in doubt try and make out everyone has multiple ID's and they are upset with you. I'll take it that's a yes, Ordinary. I don't care how you take it, clearly you are illiterate. No surprises there I guess given your background mate.

Given you've only been here 14 days, what would you know of his 'background?'

I take it by "You" Mr Bolt means his readership...

Very telling that.

As per usual, Mr Bolt has not nailed anything - at least though he is consistent.

The biggest problem for Mr Abbott which Bolt conveniently ignores is the fact he was a liar and a hypocrite....After the 2014 budget it was all down hill for Mr Abbott and Mr Hockey because the electorate knew they had been lied to....Blaming everyone else for Abbott's lies is typical of Bolt who has no credibility what so ever....A liar cannot be trusted Mr Bolt, you told us that every day under Labor's term in office!!!

:-? :-? :-?

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191

Aussie wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:16pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:12pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:10pm: There is no we Einstein only you. You accusing everyone of being matty when you get upset is a bore. If in doubt try and make out everyone has multiple ID's and they are upset with you. I'll take it that's a yes, Ordinary. I don't care how you take it, clearly you are illiterate. No surprises there I guess given your background mate. Given you've only been here 14 days, what would you know of his 'background?'

I find it funny you take over 14 days to work out if someone is illiterate or not or what their background is. Heres a thought I read it DUH. That should take how many days again ?

Maybe you are illiterate and you don't even know. Now there's a thought, get back to us all in 14 days and let us all know troll.

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:05am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I agree I have never seen such press as Tony got...and fairfax was relentless not one word of praise... :( >:( Absolutely stunningly clueless comment.

oh look! return of the vampire...we havent missed your cherry picking one b it why dont you pop back into your box and do us all a favour the place has been just a smidgin better since you departed..

or it this you just showing off one of your old nics...I realise  they are all unpleasant....

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:

The biggest problem for Mr Abbott which Bolt conveniently ignores is the fact he was a liar and a hypocrite....After the 2014 budget it was all down hill for Mr Abbott and Mr Hockey because the electorate knew they had been lied to....Blaming everyone else for Abbott's lies is typical of Bolt who has no credibility what so ever....A liar cannot be trusted Mr Bolt, you told us that every day under Labor's term in office!!!

What got your balls in a knot?

Abbott and Hockey are not there any more but you are still farting around and arguing about some sort of in the past carry on. Are you mentally challenged?

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:17pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:16pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:12pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:10pm: There is no we Einstein only you. You accusing everyone of being matty when you get upset is a bore. If in doubt try and make out everyone has multiple ID's and they are upset with you. I'll take it that's a yes, Ordinary. I don't care how you take it, clearly you are illiterate. No surprises there I guess given your background mate. Given you've only been here 14 days, what would you know of his 'background?' I find it funny you take over 14 days to work out if someone is illiterate or not or what their background is. Heres a thought I read it DUH. That should take how many days again ? Maybe you are illiterate and you don't even know. Now there's a thought, get back to us all in 14 days and let us all know troll.

its time you realised lefties are the B.all and End all...they know everything...

.they cant get their choice of leaders right even when they play swapsies..and  they have landed themselves with a doozy who got where he is with the ,lowest of actions........even ripping off his own union members....


and whilst they are telling all the lies they like about Abbott it takes their minds off the  poo Bomb they call their leader....he will  lead them all right. ;D
right  into obscurity..

then it will be on all over again.. the scramble to find someone who doesnt look like something from Dr Who... and doesnt have a record of being investigated for rape..or drugs or paedophilia or porn.

and what have they got left to choose from... ;D ;D ;D

thats right!!!!!!!!!!more cfmeu ex stand over men....all wearing ties now ;) ;).....as if anyone wants crooks and blackmailers running the govt.....only the blind leading the blind on here apparently .. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Neferti wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:41pm: The biggest problem for Mr Abbott which Bolt conveniently ignores is the fact he was a liar and a hypocrite....After the 2014 budget it was all down hill for Mr Abbott and Mr Hockey because the electorate knew they had been lied to....Blaming everyone else for Abbott's lies is typical of Bolt who has no credibility what so ever....A liar cannot be trusted Mr Bolt, you told us that every day under Labor's term in office!!! What got your balls in a knot? Abbott and Hockey are not there any more but you are still farting around and arguing about some sort of in the past carry on. Are you mentally challenged?

I believe The Mechanic started the thread, not philperth2010.

Neferti wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:41pm: The biggest problem for Mr Abbott which Bolt conveniently ignores is the fact he was a liar and a hypocrite....After the 2014 budget it was all down hill for Mr Abbott and Mr Hockey because the electorate knew they had been lied to....Blaming everyone else for Abbott's lies is typical of Bolt who has no credibility what so ever....A liar cannot be trusted Mr Bolt, you told us that every day under Labor's term in office!!! What got your balls in a knot? Abbott and Hockey are not there any more but you are still farting around and arguing about some sort of in the past carry on. Are you mentally challenged?

Really....and here I was thinking it was Andrew Bolt that was still farting around and arguing about some sort of in the past carry on. Are you really using the all in the past defence when it was Bolt who raised the issue....Are you mentally challenged???

::) ::) ::)

cods wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:48pm: cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:05am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I agree I have never seen such press as Tony got...and fairfax was relentless not one word of praise... :( >:( Absolutely stunningly clueless comment. oh look! return of the vampire...we havent missed your cherry picking one b it why dont you pop back into your box and do us all a favour the place has been just a smidgin better since you departed.. or it this you just showing off one of your old nics...I realise  they are all unpleasant....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmR9CesbXk

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:59pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:51pm: philperth2010 wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:41pm: The biggest problem for Mr Abbott which Bolt conveniently ignores is the fact he was a liar and a hypocrite....After the 2014 budget it was all down hill for Mr Abbott and Mr Hockey because the electorate knew they had been lied to....Blaming everyone else for Abbott's lies is typical of Bolt who has no credibility what so ever....A liar cannot be trusted Mr Bolt, you told us that every day under Labor's term in office!!! What got your balls in a knot? Abbott and Hockey are not there any more but you are still farting around and arguing about some sort of in the past carry on. Are you mentally challenged? I believe The Mechanic started the thread, not philperth2010.

;D ;D ;D

Aussie wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:16pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:12pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:10pm: There is no we Einstein only you. You accusing everyone of being matty when you get upset is a bore. If in doubt try and make out everyone has multiple ID's and they are upset with you. I'll take it that's a yes, Ordinary. I don't care how you take it, clearly you are illiterate. No surprises there I guess given your background mate. Given you've only been here 14 days, what would you know of his 'background?'

Matty just hasn’t been banned for 14 days, Aussie.

I believe it’s a record.

Sorry, Matty. Ordinary.

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:28pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. The article is not accredited, but I suppose Bolt wrote it. Bolt, Piers, Miranda Divine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtson, or any number of media commentators who had it out for poor old Mr Abbott. Are you taking the p1ss? Gerard Henderson? Mmmmm yes you are, luv it!

It’s strange. Gerard Henderson defended everything Mr Abbott did. Mr Abbott couldn’t do a thing wrong.

I wonder who all those dastardly media commentators were.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:17pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:16pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:12pm: ordinaryguy wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:10pm: There is no we Einstein only you. You accusing everyone of being matty when you get upset is a bore. If in doubt try and make out everyone has multiple ID's and they are upset with you. I'll take it that's a yes, Ordinary. I don't care how you take it, clearly you are illiterate. No surprises there I guess given your background mate. Given you've only been here 14 days, what would you know of his 'background?' Matty just hasn’t been banned for 14 days, Aussie. I believe it’s a record. Sorry, Matty. Ordinary.

You can be sure you are getting to ole kamal toe when he starts calling you two names at once OG. Palestinians are born that way. Just watch the throwing of his shoe.

Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:28pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. The article is not accredited, but I suppose Bolt wrote it. Bolt, Piers, Miranda Divine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtson, or any number of media commentators who had it out for poor old Mr Abbott.

I didn't mind the look of Albrechtsen on Q & A - li'l ole chauvinist me... the rest.. piffle!

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 6:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 4:28pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. The article is not accredited, but I suppose Bolt wrote it. Bolt, Piers, Miranda Divine, Gerard Henderson, Janet Albrechtson, or any number of media commentators who had it out for poor old Mr Abbott. I didn't mind the look of Albrechtsen on Q & A - li'l ole chauvinist me... the rest.. piffle!

She hasn’t been on in ages.

She was only following orders. Something tells me she’ll be back now that the war’s over.

cods wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:48pm: cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:05am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I agree I have never seen such press as Tony got...and fairfax was relentless not one word of praise... :( >:( Absolutely stunningly clueless comment. oh look! return of the vampire...we havent missed your cherry picking one b it why dont you pop back into your box and do us all a favour the place has been just a smidgin better since you departed.. or it this you just showing off one of your old nics...I realise  they are all unpleasant....

Only have one id . Always have had.

Cherry picking?


Like I said. Absolutely clueless. 

You are incapable of honest, critical unbiased thought.

You have the  self awareness of algae.




"I have never seen such press as Tony got"

Out of the country when Rudd and Gillard were in government were you?

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 29^th, 2015 at 4:35pm:

cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 5:48pm: darkhall67 wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 3:48pm: cods wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:05am: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:19am: Absolutely disgraceful the way Tony was treated.. a champion guy.. one of the best PMs Australia has ever had ... but was character assassinated by the disgraceful media and that of the deadsheets on this forum... you deserve what you get...  >:( Bolt nailed it.. I agree I have never seen such press as Tony got...and fairfax was relentless not one word of praise... :( >:( Absolutely stunningly clueless comment. oh look! return of the vampire...we havent missed your cherry picking one b it why dont you pop back into your box and do us all a favour the place has been just a smidgin better since you departed.. or it this you just showing off one of your old nics...I realise  they are all unpleasant.... Only have one id . Always have had. Cherry picking? Like I said. Absolutely clueless.  You are incapable of honest, critical unbiased thought. You have the  self awareness of algae. "I have never seen such press as Tony got" Out of the country when Rudd and Gillard were in government were you?

I asked you a question.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28^th, 2015 at 7:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:35am: Stop getting all sentimental about Abbott - he's gone & it's the best solution. bullshit... they've kept every one of his policies and are trying to revive some of the ones the Feral Senate have already canned... everyone knows that he was kicking ass on policies.. but oh on.. he walked a bit funny.. lets get rid of him.. smacking pathetic...  >:(

Do you know the way politics work in this country?  They aren't Abbott's policies that are being retained, its the LNP's policies.

What policies anyway? Ax the tax, stop the boats, try and make those with the least pay to get the Budget back in black. Idiotic, childish even. Nothing in the way of detailed, evidence based policy formulation, the more on was way too busy with stunts as LOTO.

Maybe not a mistake—it is nice not to have an inarticulate thug representing us—but maybe a waste of time?


Quote:

Scientist who likened wind industry to Hitler shapes as potential Turnbull government adviser The government will also soon announce who will fill the role of national wind farm commissioner to investigate complaints about wind turbines, despite refusing to appoint a full-time disability commissioner.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/scientist-who-likened-wind-industry-to-hitler-shapes-as-potential-turnbull-government-adviser-20150930-gjyijg.html

For the RWNJs here, rest assured that Malodorous is not a lefty.  :D ;D

Abbott was never the proble, merely the face of the problem.

The problem is the entire neo-con ideology.

They all need to go, whether by ballot or by bullet.

Either will do.

An ugly face. Thuggish.

Cliff48 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 12:48am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:41am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 7:35am: Stop getting all sentimental about Abbott - he's gone & it's the best solution. bullshit... they've kept every one of his policies and are trying to revive some of the ones the Feral Senate have already canned... everyone knows that he was kicking ass on policies.. but oh on.. he walked a bit funny.. lets get rid of him.. smacking pathetic...  >:( Do you know the way politics work in this country?  They aren't Abbott's policies that are being retained, its the LNP's policies.

It was never Tony Abbott that people hated it was the policies, getting rid of the front man and keeping the problem is rather self defeating.