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Message started by easel on Sep 29th, 2015 at 10:03pm

Title: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Sep 29th, 2015 at 10:03pm
China


Quote:
“Organ harvesting from live Falun Gong practitioners in China, the majority of whom are prisoners of conscience, is horrific and must be stopped,” Ms Wong said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/parramatta/nsw-state-parliament-briefing-on-unethical-harvesting-of-organs-from-political-prisoners/story-fngr8huy-1227474163781 this is being discussed in NSW Parliament


Quote:
U.S. representatives have found no evidence to support allegations that a site in northeast China has been used as a concentration camp to jail Falun Gong practitioners and harvest their organs, according to the U.S. Department of State.


http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/texttrans/2006/04/20060416141157uhyggep0.5443231.html#axzz3n33C5wlQ


Quote:
Resources stocks were the worst hit after a 30 per cent overnight plunge in the London-listed shares of miner and commodity trader Glencore sent shock-waves through global markets.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/29669990/51b-wiped-from-asx-resources-dumped/


Quote:
China will use its growing relationship with Brazil to pressure Australia into running a more independent foreign policy, according to analysts and academics, as Beijing seeks to use its economic muscle for strategic influence.

In a sign that Beijing is increasingly looking towards Brazil for food and mineral commodities, China also pledged to lift a ban on Brazilian beef.


http://www.afr.com/business/mining/china-using-brazil-resources-as-lever-against-australia-20150525-gh93de


Quote:
Australia's cattle herd to plummet to 20-year low, pushing up prices and spelling more tough times for drought-stricken Queensland producers
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-29/australia-cattle-herd-to-drop-to-a-20-year-low/6814294

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Sep 29th, 2015 at 10:07pm
China (more)


Quote:
"The situation in the South China Sea remains generally stable. China is resolving relevant disputes through bilateral negotiation with countries directly concerned and maintaining peace and stability of the South China Sea together with ASEAN countries. We hope that the Australian side would honor its commitment of not taking sides on issues concerning sovereignty disputes, respect efforts by China and ASEAN countries and take concrete actions to uphold regional peace and stability,"
http://en.people.cn/n/2015/0922/c90000-8953676.html


Quote:
As a country thousands of miles away from the South China Sea, Australia has nothing to do with the disputes and should have been wise enough to keep away from them.

As its largest trading partner, China is no doubt an important country for Australia.


http://en.people.cn/n/2015/0610/c90780-8904778.html

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Sep 29th, 2015 at 10:08pm
Global (extreme damage caused to the image of the Australian government and policy makers)


Quote:
An independent UN investigator into the human rights of migrants has postponed an official visit to Australia that was due to begin on Sunday, citing a lack of government cooperation and “unacceptable” legal restrictions.


http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/un-expert-postpones-australia-visit-over-unacceptable-restrictions-1.2368079#.VggYALpuGDs.facebook

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Sep 29th, 2015 at 10:11pm
Indonesia


Quote:
Indonesia has snubbed Australia’s regional security initiative on countering violent extremism by declining to send a ministerial representative to the Regional Summit in Sydney.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/06/09/indonesia-snubs-australia-over-regional-security-summit


Quote:
The Indonesian government hopes to start importing beef from countries like Brazil and Uruguay next year to provide sufficient supply for the country's expanding population, according to a top government official.
http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/business/govt-eyeing-import-brazil-uruguay-beef/


Quote:
Indonesia seeks new beef markets to end dependence on Australia
http://www.smh.com.au/world/indonesia-seeks-new-beef-markets-to-end-dependence-on-australia-20150919-gjqbvy.html


Quote:
Australia's cattle herd to plummet to 20-year low, pushing up prices and spelling more tough times for drought-stricken Queensland producers
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-29/australia-cattle-herd-to-drop-to-a-20-year-low/6814294

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Sep 29th, 2015 at 10:29pm
Discussion

Agriculture and mining are major aspects of the Australian economic ability to garner foreign investment and foreign reserves.

Australia has a poorly performing economy to start with.

That this has occurred is because countries are trying to harm Australia. Because of prior Australian acts. These are not insignificant issues for the Australian economy. These are being done to harm Australia, not help or salvage Brazil.

The Brazilian economy is functional as it is, as people are accustomed to and prepared for a lower standard of living.

Australian's have a high standard of living. This can destroy your country if allowed to continue.

And by destroy your country I mean this can destroy your standard of living and quality of life in Australia.

Who is to blame for this attack on Australia?

The blame lies with the Australian Intelligence Community, DFAT, and Australian police agencies.

They have been performing calculated acts designed to harm Australian foreign relations due to their inability to have authority or importance in internationally significant matters. Their attitude is, okay, if our country of 20 million, our tiny military, our geographic isolation and our basket case economy is not enough to make you think we need or deserve a prominent voice in world affairs, we will harass and intimidate your foreign representatives when they are not in the office.

The threat to the Australian way of life is the Australian Intelligence Community, DFAT and the Australian police departments.

This is what you need to be aware of.

There are countries with much less potential than Australia has doing much better than Australia. Because their government officials are friendly and work towards global benefit, rather than towards their own self importance.

The enemy is your own government.

This is not a Chinese issue. This has the UN involved.

This also has sanctions placed on Australia I will not discuss from countries including Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia, the UK and the USA.

What are you doing to save your country?

Would you like more examples that you won't find anywhere about what Australian agencies are doing to destroy your country?

A week ago I was approached by the NSW state/local police asking questions about top secret US DoD data. This is not the first time it has happened. I instructed them it was illegal and will harm their foreign relations and that I had nothing to tell them. They stated they do not care.

A few days ago I was approached by Australian federal representatives asking me to utilise a person that they had identified that has access to the British government. They wanted me to attempt to obtain information regarding the BBC announcement that they were intending to broadcast in to North Korea.

This was not their intended aim. Their intended aim was to further harm Australian relations with the ROK and the UK.

Which has been achieved.

Already this week I have conversed with someone who has access to someone who can get direct access to the Central Military Commission of the PRC.

The agreement was any discussions or liasons with the Australian Intelligence Community will ruin the relationship.

At the same time the Chinese are positively engaging with the USA and South Korea and shunning North Korea, attempting to get them to disarm, downsizing their military and attempting to participate in joint training/friendship exercises with the USA and their allies to remove from the mindset of their military that we are the enemy (this could take many years).

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by athos on Sep 30th, 2015 at 1:45pm
I would say that Australia with it's irresponsible international policy actually generating self imposed economical sanctions.
Instead to serve own interest Australia is actually tries to benefit and please American globalism.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Sep 30th, 2015 at 3:02pm
Yes Australian sanctions are due to Australian actions. And therefore self imposed.

This has nothing to do with globalisation or the American agenda.

This has everything to do with policy makers and analysts within the AUstralian Intelligence Community desiring to make for themselves an empire or sorts, whilst making a joke of the system.

Which is a massive human rights issue as millions of people's lives are being used for fun and amusement.

Destruction of the economy is evidence that this is a human rights issue. After repeated warnings that Australia is unable to participate in significant global groups and that the disregard of human dignity by Australian police and intelligence agencies is against what is acceptable to all involved in this field of xyz and people concerned about their 'karma' and similar notions, Australia said they were not concerned.

They are having fun and pretending to be medieval kings at the expense of human beings. This is not a reenactors society that wears armor on the weekend.

And this can and will destroy your country. The rights of the individual, or even the safety and comfort of the individual, is not a concern for these people.

Your country is on the verge of destruction.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 30th, 2015 at 3:03pm
Says a guy who seems to watch Asian pop videos all day

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 30th, 2015 at 3:29pm

athos wrote on Sep 30th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
I would say that Australia with it's irresponsible international policy actually generating self imposed economical sanctions.
Instead to serve own interest Australia is actually tries to benefit and please American globalism.


;D ;D ;D

Jesus Christ athos! Where do you get all this anti-US and anti-British conspiracy theory bullshit from? Are you going to evening classes? Who radicalised you against these countries?

Just wait until Chinese 'globalism' takes a good strong grip on Australia's balls through the auspices of 'Free Trade'.

You'll be singing a different tune then - in a high falsetto.



Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by athos on Sep 30th, 2015 at 6:17pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 30th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

athos wrote on Sep 30th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
I would say that Australia with it's irresponsible international policy actually generating self imposed economical sanctions.
Instead to serve own interest Australia is actually tries to benefit and please American globalism.


;D ;D ;D

Jesus Christ athos! Where do you get all this anti-US and anti-British conspiracy theory bullshit from? Are you going to evening classes? Who radicalised you against these countries?

Just wait until Chinese 'globalism' takes a good strong grip on Australia's balls through the auspices of 'Free Trade'.

You'll be singing a different tune then - in a high falsetto.


Jesus Christ Lord, don't accuse messengers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThljZBvUocw


Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 30th, 2015 at 8:37pm
China is on the ascendancy towards being the dominant World Power within 100 years.

Thankfully, they are more capitalist than a roomful of Wall Street Jews, and so it won't signal any major changes when we eventually come under their political power in just the same way as we are now captive to their economic power.





Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by Secret Wars on Sep 30th, 2015 at 8:46pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 30th, 2015 at 8:37pm:
China is on the ascendancy towards being the dominant World Power within 100 years.

Thankfully, they are more capitalist than a roomful of Wall Street Jews, and so it won't signal any major changes when we eventually come under their political power in just the same way as we are now captive to their economic power.


Nahhhh, their own one child policy is going to bit them in the bum, they are looking at the mother of all aging population demographics.  Lots of famously old as they do in China supported by bugger all people. They cannot even repopulate in time as preferentially killed the females.   

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Sep 30th, 2015 at 9:25pm
Their economy benefits us. The survival of their social system is reliant on the consumer society in the west.

We are not captive to them or their military.

In fact, they are trying to be best friends with South Korea and disarm the north.

Problems arise when China is attacked, as the Australian government is apt to do, causing a reaction, mentions of the USA and then a problem further develops as south Korea is militarily very close to the USA.

And Australia is paying for it.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:12pm

Quote:
To enhance U.S.-China relations, Chao emphasized public diplomacy and increased interactions between both countries.
http://www.ecns.cn/2015/10-06/183402.shtml

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:13pm

Quote:
"I don't think it matters who it is, don't talk to someone via the television set," Mr Joyce said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-06/joyce-visits-jakarta-to-argue-for-greater-certainty-for-farmers/6829404

Australia is still not getting it. Or getting in to a favourable position regarding international relations.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:25pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:13pm:

Quote:
"I don't think it matters who it is, don't talk to someone via the television set," Mr Joyce said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-06/joyce-visits-jakarta-to-argue-for-greater-certainty-for-farmers/6829404

Australia is still not getting it. Or getting in to a favourable position regarding international relations.
Indonesia are 250 million people with not enough food to support it's population in a healthy way. Indonesia needs Australian protein more than we need theirs. Australia doesn't have millions of people living with raw sewerage flowing down the gutters.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:34pm
I don't think your comments on Indonesia are accurate or relevant to the discussion of:

Invisible Sanctions on Australia made visible.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:35pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:34pm:
I don't think your comments on Indonesia are accurate or relevant to the discussion of:

Invisible Sanctions on Australia made visible.
Sanctions on Indonesia? Indonesia treats Australia like crap. Why would Australia want to deal with these cretins?

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:39pm

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:35pm:

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:34pm:
I don't think your comments on Indonesia are accurate or relevant to the discussion of:

Invisible Sanctions on Australia made visible.
Sanctions on Indonesia? Indonesia treats Australia like crap. Why would Australia want to deal with these cretins?


So you are identifying as a supporter of hostile Australian foreign policy?

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:41pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:39pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:35pm:

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:34pm:
I don't think your comments on Indonesia are accurate or relevant to the discussion of:

Invisible Sanctions on Australia made visible.
Sanctions on Indonesia? Indonesia treats Australia like crap. Why would Australia want to deal with these cretins?


So you are identifying as a supporter of hostile Australian foreign policy?
So do you deal with people who treat you badly in your everyday life?

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:48pm
I don't understand the inference you are trying to make.

The topic is that:

Australian foreign and domestic policy, intelligence directives and other acts have led to sanctions on Australia from various countries.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:50pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:48pm:
I don't understand the inference you are trying to make.

The topic is that:

Australian foreign and domestic policy, intelligence directives and other acts have led to sanctions on Australia from various countries.
Indonesia doesn't like Australia and have cut their trade with Australia. You are wrong.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:53pm
The thread has established that what you stated is accurate. Which is the point I was pushing.

Further, it is not just Indonesia.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:59pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:53pm:
The thread has established that what you stated is accurate. Which is the point I was pushing.

Further, it is not just Indonesia.
Australia is moving away from Indonesia. Australia is looking more into China, Japan and other asian countries.  Australia doesn't need Indonesia.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:02pm
China is moving away from Australia. Australia is not looking to China.

China is a major producer of the worlds goods. China will buy less from Australia and Australia will remain reliant on China.

Those are sanctions.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:03pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:02pm:
China is moving away from Australia. Australia is not looking to China.

China is a major producer of the worlds goods. China will buy less from Australia and Australia will remain reliant on Australia.

Those are sanctions.
You are wrong.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:04pm
Australia needs Indonesia due to the fact it has a 300 million person market.

Due to the geographic location of Indonesia, transport of goods to Indonesia is low.

Indonesia is capable of destroying the Australian beef agriculture industry.

If you desire to destroy Australia, follow along with Australian policy directives.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:04pm

Quote:
South Korea will sign a deal with Indonesia this month to cement the Southeast Asian country's partnership in the local Air Force project to build indigenous combat jets with stealth capacities, the procurement agency said Tuesday.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2015/10/06/0301000000AEN20151006004600315.html

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:06pm

Quote:
Australia believes South Korea has been trying to spy on its police and government agencies, newly-released documents reveal in separate disclosures that are likely to complicate relations between the two allies.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324266904578458602036593008

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:07pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:06pm:
...
You dislike Australia. Don't you?

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:09pm

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:06pm:
...
You dislike Australia. Don't you?


My signature says I work for a foreign government.

Are you asking me for my personal opinion?

My personal opinion is that Australian policy directives are aimed at destroying Australia. I have a problem with Australian policy directives and agencies and departments responsible for them.

I would like to save Australia.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:12pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:06pm:
...
You dislike Australia. Don't you?


My signature says I work for a foreign government.

Are you asking me for my personal opinion?

My personal opinion is that Australian policy directives are aimed at destroying Australia. I have a problem with Australian policy directives and agencies and departments responsible for them.

I would like to save Australia.
It's obvious to me you dislike Australia. You are on a public forum frequented by Australians and you are running my and others country down. If you want to help Australia talk to the Australian Government. You won't help Australia on here. Take your hate somewhere else.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:17pm
Do you use this website as a point of activism or as a pressure point?

According to your previous post doing so is not a worthy use of the website. Even though that is what it was created for.

I am still determined to remedy the major problems your nation is facing.

With global assistance.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:18pm

Quote:
SEJONG, Oct. 4 (Yonhap) -- South Korea will resume exporting pears to Australia that were halted after the outbreak of fire blight in the country, the government said Sunday.

According to the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs, the ban on locally grown pears that has been in place since June will be lifted Monday. Joint inspections carried out by South Korean and Australian officials confirmed that Seoul is keeping the highly contagious disease under control, and that it has not spread across the country, it added.

Fire blight has the capability to destroy a whole orchard in a single growing season.

"The experts who checked local pear growers in August agreed that the country is maintaining a transparent system of reporting outbreaks," the ministry said.

Local farms in Anseong and Cheonan, in the central part of the country, reported the outbreak in May that caused a blanket ban on pears, even from regions that were not affected.

It said while exports can resume immediately, the first shipments will likely take place in mid-October, from growers in Sangju, Naju and Hadong. The three regions are all located further south on the Korean Peninsula.

The ministry said that under the agreement, pears that can be exported must have a certification stating they are from regions not affected by fire blight.

In 2014, South Korean pear exports to Australia reached 100 tons, up from around 50 tons the previous year.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2015/10/03/0200000000AEN20151003002200320.html


Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by double plus good on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:22pm

easel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:17pm:
Do you use this website as a point of activism or as a pressure point?

According to your previous post doing so is not a worthy use of the website. Even though that is what it was created for.

I am still determined to remedy the major problems your nation is facing.

With global assistance.
You aren't fixing Australia on here. You are just insulting it. That's what you want to do.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:24pm
By bringing to your attention the issues your country is facing from foreign policy directives, I feel as though bringing attention to the issue is going to help fix it.

Your attack on Indonesia a few posts up is clearly aligned with Australian foreign policy directives aimed to harm Australia.

You are directly working towards destroying Australia.

If an Indonesian government person or similar was on this website for public opinion on Indonesia, and saw your post, you are doing your country no favours.

Unless your intended aim is to destroy Australia.

Title: Re: Invisible sanctions on Australia made visible
Post by easel on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:52pm

Quote:
The United States' most senior military officer says he would like to see Australia build its relationship with Indonesia in order to boost stability in the south-east Asian region.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/us-military-chief-martin-dempsey-urges-stronger-australian-relationship-with-indonesia-20150224-13na70.html


Quote:
Boeing has been awarded a USD295.8 million firm-fixed-price foreign military sales contract for eight AH64E Apache Guardian attack helicopters for Indonesia, the Department of Defence (DoD) disclosed on 27 January.
http://www.janes.com/article/48321/boeing-awarded-indonesian-ah-64e-contract


Quote:
The United Kingdom has requested from the US government the remanufacture of 50 of its AgustaWestland-Boeing WAH-64D Block I Apache Longbow AH.1 helicopters to the latest AH-64E Guardian standard.
http://www.janes.com/article/53882/uk-requests-remanufacture-of-apaches-to-ah-64e-standard

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