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Message started by easel on Sep 30th, 2015 at 3:28pm

Title: Julie Bishop is helping destroy Australia
Post by easel on Sep 30th, 2015 at 3:28pm
Diplomacy is not a short term endeavor. It involves significant acts of good will over significant time frames to garner an ability for a country to be accepted and trusted by a foreign nation. You can't hop around on the matter. You even occasionally have to overlook shortcomings and misdeeds of the nation your are trying to cultivate a relationship with.

Australia has destroyed its' diplomatic relations with:

PRC
ROK
Israel
UK
USA
Indonesia

and others who are not wanting to be so public about it. The relationship is now to keep up appearances. They don't need the patriotic segments of the public radicalising against them (the USA and UK) so they maintain a facade of frienship for the media.

So, just recently, the Australian foreign minister has gone off on this tangent:


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"The fear that a number of countries have is that if the Assad regime were either removed or collapsed, it would create a vacuum, and one might find that it was filled by an even more diabolical presence than the Assad regime," the ABC quoted Bishop as saying. "I don't for a moment shy away from the comments that we have made in the past about the illegitimacy of the regime."
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/australia-softens-stance-syrian-president-assad-1469774

Syria is not a US aligned nation. It is a Russian aligned nation. To get closer to Syria, you are going to have to be closer to Russia. Australia has a non-functioning relationship with Russia. They are not able to engage with each other. Therefore, the DFAT and intelligence agencies (this involves a war and terrorism) are trying to get in to an arena they are incapable of becoming involved in. The USA can do this kind of stuff if they have shattered relations because they are very powerful and their opinions and policies matter. This is not the case for Australia. Australia has a broken relationship with Russia. Australia has no foreign diplomatic capabilities. Syria still has close Russian military ties.

And then we have this:


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Ms Bishop used the address in New York to announce Australia's bid to rejoin the United Nations Security Council, highlighting her work in the wake of the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in 2014.

Ms Bishop said members had a responsibility to use restraint when it came to such mass atrocities.

"We will not let a Russian veto impede the efforts of countries grieving the loss of their citizens and demanding justice for the perpetrators of this atrocity," she said.

"All states must uphold their responsibility to protect civilians from the most serious crimes.

"Security Council members have a particular responsibility to do so in that context.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-30/bishop-urges-limited-use-of-veto-in-security-council/6816166

Not only is she attacking the authority and dignity of the UN by imposing Australian thoughts upon an aspect of the UN Australia was removed from, she is attacking Russia, pretending Australia is important, and not acknowledging the fact that the Australian investigation in the Russian plane crash is illegal. It is a military matter. Not a matter where you send Interpol and the Australian Federal Police. Out of stubborness, misdirected self importance, arrogance, and a huge inferiority complex, Australia, knowing they have an untenable position, are doing acts designed to harm Australia.

Also;


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"Obviously every country can decide who to let [have] a visa but in the current circumstances, given it's an international — as I understand United Nations conference — it is not a very friendly step from Australia as a whole country to do so," he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-14/russian-space-agency-workers-unable-to-obtain-visas-to-australia/6617048

Australia cannot engage with US allies. It cannot engage with China. It cannot engage with Russia. It is trying to be the middle man with Syria. But Russia won't let it, nor will the USA.

And the rest of the team is against Assad.


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France opens war crimes inquiry against Assad regime
http://www.timesofisrael.com/france-opens-war-crimes-inquiry-against-assad-regime/


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Saudi Arabia says there is 'no future' for Assad in Syria
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/30/saudi-arabia-warns-there-is-no-future-for-assad-in-syria

Australia has been destroyed. Future acts by Australian policy makers, advisors and intelligence agencies risk your country becoming a failed state. Worse than Greece.

These are the people you trust with ensuring the functioning of your society and your future comfort.

You need to act and act soon. Your intelligence agencies and foreign affairs capabilities are destroyed. And out of spite, they are prepared to harm millions of Australian's. Much like how Islamic State blows up monuments to protest when they don't get their way.


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Mr Key said he was "blunt" with Australia's Foreign Minister Julie Bishop when discussing the issue on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York.

"I had a good chat to Julie [Bishop] about it and I was pretty blunt," Mr Key said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-30/john-key-australia-detaining-nz-citizens-not-in-anzac-spirit/6816090

Title: Re: Julie Bishop is helping destroy Australia
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 30th, 2015 at 4:16pm
What drivel.

Title: Re: Julie Bishop is helping destroy Australia
Post by easel on Sep 30th, 2015 at 4:39pm

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President Park Geun-hye and her Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, on Wednesday agreed on the importance of continued cooperation between the two nations in efforts for regional peace and stability.

The leaders exchanged congratulatory messages on the 25th anniversary of the establishment of Seoul-Moscow diplomatic ties, according to the Foreign Ministry.

Park called South Korea and Russia "mutually beneficial and future-oriented" partners, it said.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2015/09/30/0200000000AEN20150930003251315.html

This is a capability South Korea has already developed.

With China, Russia and Iran.

A long standing ability to engage with these nations. Something that is now impossible for Australia to do.

Due to the past acts of the Australian government designed to cause personal offense and harm relations and the image of South Korea, any country that wants to use South Korea as a means to engage with the USA will have to avoid Australia. Going anywhere near any kind of diplomatic or intelligence relationship with Australia will destroy your access to South Korea. And therefore the USA.

Australia has had their foreign affairs sanctioned and rendered void. In the USA, UK, Asia, Europe and the Middle East.


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Australia believes South Korea has been trying to spy on its police and government agencies, newly-released documents reveal in separate disclosures that are likely to complicate relations between the two allies.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324266904578458602036593008

Title: Re: Julie Bishop is helping destroy Australia
Post by easel on Sep 30th, 2015 at 6:49pm

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Australia bids for seats on Security Council, Human Rights Council
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/29681566/australia-bids-for-seats-on-security-council-human-rights-council/


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Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has pushed for limited use of the veto by permanent members of the Security Council during an address to the United Nations.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-30/bishop-urges-limited-use-of-veto-in-security-council/6816166

w...t....f

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Australia’s record on cooperating with the United Nations has come under fire after François Crépeau, a special rapporteur on human rights for migrants, cancelled his plans to visit detention facilities in Australia. Crépeau said he feared that the workers at those facilities could face a jail term of up to two years if they spoke to him.
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/united-nations-human-rights-official-cancels-plan-visit-australian-detention-centres-1470272

See. Bishop is helping. To destroy Australia.

Title: Re: Julie Bishop is helping destroy Australia
Post by easel on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:09am

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It showed that despite Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s meeting with Putin in Moscow last week, Russia intends to create new facts on the ground in Syria that will include restricting Israel’s freedom of movement in Syrian skies.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.678097


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However, there was concern among rebel groups and in the west that Russia was targeting all forces opposed to President Bashar al-Assad, rather than focusing on Isis. A US official said the Americans were working on Wednesday to determine which groups the Russian bombing actually hit and whether US-backed Syrian forces were affected.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/30/russia-launches-first-airstrikes-against-targets-in-syria-says-us

Title: Re: Julie Bishop is helping destroy Australia
Post by easel on Oct 1st, 2015 at 2:11am
Support for Assad is support for Hezbollah. They are fighting together.

Does this mean that the Cronulla race riots were actually allowed to go on the way they did as an attack against Israel and interference in middle eastern issues that Australia are not invited to participate in?

Does this also mean Australia's self destructive acts are designed to cause offense and harm relations?

Looking at their track record, yes. Clearly.

Title: Re: Julie Bishop is helping destroy Australia
Post by Dame Pansi on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 4:43pm

Julie Bishop is an idiot. Even Obama has given up on pointing the finger at Russia for the downing of the MH 17.

He tried, he failed, he gave up.....not our Julie.

We are bad at international diplomacy, Russia is good.

Title: Re: Julie Bishop is helping destroy Australia
Post by bias_2012 on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:03pm
Syria is none of our business. Bishop should pull her head in and just shut up

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