Two people are believed to have been shot outside police headquarters in Parramatta, in Sydney's west.

A NSW Police Force spokeswoman said a "police operation is now underway" but could not confirm anything further.

She said Charles Street and Hassall Street were closed as a result.

One Facebook user, who claimed to have witnessed the incident, said a man opened fire at least five times outside the NSW Police Force headquarters building, before being shot by police and a security guard, who returned fire.

This has not been confirmed.

The NSW Police Force maintains an administrative building on Marsden Street in Parramatta's CBD.


www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/02/17/01/two-feared-shot-in-parramatta-in-sydney-s-west


How many more shooting are we to put up with before the Baird mob  stops selling out to the gun lobby.

Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:08pm:

Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target.

Quite possibly.

The IRA, perhaps?

KKK?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:11pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK?

You wish.

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK? You wish.

Which terrorist group do you think it was (if it was terrorism, that is)?

ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:20pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK? You wish. Which terrorist group do you think it was (if it was terrorism, that is)?

take a guess.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:24pm:

ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers.

One attacker dead, and one Police IT expert dead.

That's the reports I've heard.

No confirmation yet, though.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:24pm:

ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers.

One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter.

according to the ABC:


Quote:

The ABC understands the incident is not terror related.

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:26pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter.

What terrorist organisation was he from?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:11pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK?

ISIS

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:27pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from?

take a guess.

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:26pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter.

It wasn't random. The victim of the gunman was employed by the NSW Police.

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? take a guess.

IRA?

KKK?

If not those, then which one?

Can you please enlighten us?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK? ISIS

What makes you say it's an ISIS attack?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:29pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? take a guess. IRA? KKK? If not those, then which one? Can you please enlighten us?

be serious.

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:29pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? take a guess. IRA? KKK? If not those, then which one? Can you please enlighten us? be serious.

I am.

You're calling it a terrorist attack, and yet you can't say what organisation the "terrorist" was representing.

What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group do you think is involved?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:30pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK? ISIS What makes you say it's an ISIS attack?

I doubt a middle eastern man would've been carrying out an attack on behalf of the Catholic Church.

I believe so called 'lone-wolf' attacks can come under the terrorism umbrella greg

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:30pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK? ISIS What makes you say it's an ISIS attack? I doubt a middle eastern man would've been carrying out an attack on behalf of the Catholic Church.

What middle eastern man?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:32pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:29pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? take a guess. IRA? KKK? If not those, then which one? Can you please enlighten us? be serious. I am. You're calling it a terrorist attack, and yet you can't say what organisation the "terrorist" was representing. What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group do you think is involved?

A terrorist attack is a terrorist attack. A man that posts a pipe bomb can be a terrorist. It doesn't have to be a terrorist organisation numpty. Attacking  police headquarters with guns is a terrorist attack.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:33pm:

I believe so called 'lone-wolf' attacks can come under the terrorism umbrella greg

Of course.

What group, movement, or ideology, was he doing it in support of though?

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:32pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:29pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? take a guess. IRA? KKK? If not those, then which one? Can you please enlighten us? be serious. I am. You're calling it a terrorist attack, and yet you can't say what organisation the "terrorist" was representing. What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group do you think is involved? A terrorist attack is a terrorist attack. A man that posts a pipe bomb can be a terrorist. It doesn't have to be a terrorist organisation numpty. Attacking  police headquarters with guns is a terrorist attack.

What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group, movement, or ideology was it done in support of?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:33pm: I believe so called 'lone-wolf' attacks can come under the terrorism umbrella greg Of course. What group, movement, or ideology, was he doing it in support of though?

You are asking the wrong person there.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:38pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:32pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:29pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? take a guess. IRA? KKK? If not those, then which one? Can you please enlighten us? be serious. I am. You're calling it a terrorist attack, and yet you can't say what organisation the "terrorist" was representing. What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group do you think is involved? A terrorist attack is a terrorist attack. A man that posts a pipe bomb can be a terrorist. It doesn't have to be a terrorist organisation numpty. Attacking  police headquarters with guns is a terrorist attack. What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group, movement, or ideology was it done in support of?

I told you why it's a terrorist attack. Why does the group matter??

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:38pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:32pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:29pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? take a guess. IRA? KKK? If not those, then which one? Can you please enlighten us? be serious. I am. You're calling it a terrorist attack, and yet you can't say what organisation the "terrorist" was representing. What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group do you think is involved? A terrorist attack is a terrorist attack. A man that posts a pipe bomb can be a terrorist. It doesn't have to be a terrorist organisation numpty. Attacking  police headquarters with guns is a terrorist attack. What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group, movement, or ideology was it done in support of? I told you why it's a terrorist attack. Why does the group matter??

What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group, movement, or ideology was it done in support of?

Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party...

regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Which is why Man Horan Monis wasn't a terrorist - because it was a deliberate suicide mission to avoid going to gaol over the murder of his wife.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Which is why Man Horan Monis wasn't a terrorist - because it was a deliberate suicide mission to avoid going to gaol over the murder of his wife.

Why did Monis want an ISIS flag then ? Aren't they a political movement?

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism.

Absolutely.

However, doubleplus can't tell us what group, movement, or ideology it was done in support of.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:43pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:41pm: Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Absolutely. However, doubleplus can't tell us what group, movement, or ideology it was done in support of.

Well its pretty obvious he has one in mind.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:41pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:39pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:38pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:32pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:30pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:29pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? take a guess. IRA? KKK? If not those, then which one? Can you please enlighten us? be serious. I am. You're calling it a terrorist attack, and yet you can't say what organisation the "terrorist" was representing. What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group do you think is involved? A terrorist attack is a terrorist attack. A man that posts a pipe bomb can be a terrorist. It doesn't have to be a terrorist organisation numpty. Attacking  police headquarters with guns is a terrorist attack. What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group, movement, or ideology was it done in support of? I told you why it's a terrorist attack. Why does the group matter?? What makes you think it's a terrorist attack, and what group, movement, or ideology was it done in support of?

So attacking the headquarters for police in Sydney isn't terrorism? In time all will be revealed pecca. Be patient.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:43pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:41pm: Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Absolutely. However, doubleplus can't tell us what group, movement, or ideology it was done in support of. Well its pretty obvious he has one in mind.

I'm not sure. But black robes are worn by ISIS so it's a good chance. But we don't know yet. Don't you agree?

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Which is why Man Horan Monis wasn't a terrorist - because it was a deliberate suicide mission to avoid going to gaol over the murder of his wife.

Rigggggthhhhtttt, so not islamic terrorism, just inspired by islamic terrorism.  A distinction without a difference. 

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:45pm:

In time all will be revealed pecca. Be patient.

Ah.

So you're just guessing.

If you're correct, what group, movement, or ideology was it done in support of?

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:43pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:41pm: Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Absolutely. However, doubleplus can't tell us what group, movement, or ideology it was done in support of. Well its pretty obvious he has one in mind. I'm not sure. But black robes are worn by ISIS so it's a good chance. But we don't know yet. Don't you agree?

Are you saying the shooter was wearing black robes? Do you know something no one else does homo?

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:52pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:43pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:41pm: Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Absolutely. However, doubleplus can't tell us what group, movement, or ideology it was done in support of. Well its pretty obvious he has one in mind. I'm not sure. But black robes are worn by ISIS so it's a good chance. But we don't know yet. Don't you agree? Are you saying the shooter was wearing black robes? Do you know something no one else does homo?

That's what the media is reporting. You would know too if you did some reading.

The gunman, who was wearing black robes, stormed the Charles Street building about 4.30pm, firing multiple shots as he approached.
Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/02/17/01/two-feared-shot-in-parramatta-in-sydney-s-west#lT6O5uQFFqUDHQfQ.99

http://saxonuniforms.com/regalia/images/judgebentsimgown.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:57pm:

http://saxonuniforms.com/regalia/images/judgebentsimgown.jpg

The only thing that snifter in the photo would be guilty of is stockpiling kiddie porn. The sheila would be that she is sexless.

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:52pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:43pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:41pm: Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Absolutely. However, doubleplus can't tell us what group, movement, or ideology it was done in support of. Well its pretty obvious he has one in mind. I'm not sure. But black robes are worn by ISIS so it's a good chance. But we don't know yet. Don't you agree? Are you saying the shooter was wearing black robes? Do you know something no one else does homo? That's what the media is reporting. You would know too if you did some reading. The gunman, who was wearing black robes, stormed the Charles Street building about 4.30pm, firing multiple shots as he approached. Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/02/17/01/two-feared-shot-in-parramatta-in-sydney-s-west#lT6O5uQFFqUDHQfQ.99

Fair enough.

Still, from the same article....


Quote:

Police said they are yet to identify either of the gunman. Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/02/17/01/two-feared-shot-in-parramatta-in-sydney-s-west#oQvpAIThFBZ44qff.99

'either of the gunman' - is obviously gramatically incorrect, and could be disregarded as a typo - *BUT* - it doesn't help that earlier reports said that there were 2 gunmen. All this information is coming from witnesses, since the police are staying mum. So if witnesses are wrong about there being 2 gunmen, perhaps we should take the claim about a "black robed" gunman with a grain of salt until we get official confirmation.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:04pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:54pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:52pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:46pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:43pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:41pm: Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Absolutely. However, doubleplus can't tell us what group, movement, or ideology it was done in support of. Well its pretty obvious he has one in mind. I'm not sure. But black robes are worn by ISIS so it's a good chance. But we don't know yet. Don't you agree? Are you saying the shooter was wearing black robes? Do you know something no one else does homo? That's what the media is reporting. You would know too if you did some reading. The gunman, who was wearing black robes, stormed the Charles Street building about 4.30pm, firing multiple shots as he approached. Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/02/17/01/two-feared-shot-in-parramatta-in-sydney-s-west#lT6O5uQFFqUDHQfQ.99 Fair enough. Still, from the same article.... Quote: Police said they are yet to identify either of the gunman. Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/02/17/01/two-feared-shot-in-parramatta-in-sydney-s-west#oQvpAIThFBZ44qff.99 'either of the gunman' - is obviously gramatically incorrect, and could be disregarded as a typo - *BUT* - it doesn't help that earlier reports said that there were 2 gunmen. All this information is coming from witnesses, since the police are staying mum. So if witnesses are wrong about there being 2 gunmen, perhaps we should take the claim about a "black robed" gunman with a grain of salt until we get official confirmation.

I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do.

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:07pm:

I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do.

Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack?

We can rule out the ABC: "The ABC understands the incident is not terror related."

So ... ?

homo is only going by what the media report. The media reports that


Quote:

There is no confirmation the incident was a terrorist attack Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/02/17/01/two-feared-shot-in-parramatta-in-sydney-s-west#oQvpAIThFBZ44qff.99

and


Quote:

The ABC understands the incident is not terror related.

Regardless, Homo concludes that its terror related. But he is just going by what the media report  :D

Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack, doubleplusgoo?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:09pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:07pm: I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do. Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack? We can rule out the ABC: "The ABC understands the incident is not terror related." So ... ?

Which organisation said it wasn't? I don't pay any attention to the stupid ABC. We were talking about robes pecca.

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:07pm: I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do. Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack? We can rule out the ABC: "The ABC understands the incident is not terror related." So ... ? Which organisation said it wasn't? I don't pay any attention to the stupid ABC. We were talking about robes pecca.

Ignore the ABC all you like. That's not a problem.

However, you said "I'm just going on what the media is reporting".

So, which media organisation reported this as a terrorist attack?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:20pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:07pm: I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do. Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand???? Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack? We can rule out the ABC: "The ABC understands the incident is not terror related." So ... ? Which organisation said it wasn't? I don't pay any attention to the stupid ABC. We were talking about robes pecca. Ignore the ABC all you like. That's not a problem. However, you said "I'm just going on what the media is reporting". So, which media organisation reported this as a terrorist attack?

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:20pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:07pm: I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do. Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand???? Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack? We can rule out the ABC: "The ABC understands the incident is not terror related." So ... ? Which organisation said it wasn't? I don't pay any attention to the stupid ABC. We were talking about robes pecca. Ignore the ABC all you like. That's not a problem. However, you said "I'm just going on what the media is reporting". So, which media organisation reported this as a terrorist attack?

Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand????

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:22pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:20pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:07pm: I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do. Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand???? Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack? We can rule out the ABC: "The ABC understands the incident is not terror related." So ... ? Which organisation said it wasn't? I don't pay any attention to the stupid ABC. We were talking about robes pecca. Ignore the ABC all you like. That's not a problem. However, you said "I'm just going on what the media is reporting". So, which media organisation reported this as a terrorist attack? Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand????

Your answer is "None. No media organisation has reported this as a terrorist attack".

Glad we cleared that up.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:26pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:22pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:20pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:07pm: I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do. Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand???? Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack? We can rule out the ABC: "The ABC understands the incident is not terror related." So ... ? Which organisation said it wasn't? I don't pay any attention to the stupid ABC. We were talking about robes pecca. Ignore the ABC all you like. That's not a problem. However, you said "I'm just going on what the media is reporting". So, which media organisation reported this as a terrorist attack? Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand???? Your answer is "None. No media organisation has reported this as a terrorist attack". Glad we cleared that up.

I'm allowed a friggen opinion!

double plus good wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:26pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:22pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:21pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:20pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:18pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:07pm: I'm just going on what the media is reporting. That's what we all do. Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand???? Which media organisation said it was a terrorist attack? We can rule out the ABC: "The ABC understands the incident is not terror related." So ... ? Which organisation said it wasn't? I don't pay any attention to the stupid ABC. We were talking about robes pecca. Ignore the ABC all you like. That's not a problem. However, you said "I'm just going on what the media is reporting". So, which media organisation reported this as a terrorist attack? Going on what the media is reporting about the robes. Now do you understand???? Your answer is "None. No media organisation has reported this as a terrorist attack". Glad we cleared that up. I'm allowed a friggen opinion!

Opinion?

You said: "I'm just going on what the media is reporting".

Make up your mind: is it media reports, or personal opinion?

Parramatta shooting: Multiple shots fired outside police HQ on Charles Street
24 minutes ago
DailyTelegraph

Witness films scene around the time of Parramatta shooting
Witness films scene around the time of Parramatta shooting
POLICE had warning of a possible attack on the Parramatta headquarters through intelligence sources ahead of today’s deadly shooting that saw a lone gunman shoot dead a police IT worker before being gunned down by officers.

Staff had been sent a number of emails warning of men who had been taking photographs of the building’s entrance.

The shooter, believed to be of Middle Eastern appearance and dressed in black, launched an attack from the street at 4.30pm, peppering the front of the building with bullets.

He shot a police IT expert before being gunned down by special constables who guard the entrance, The Daily Telegraph can confirm.

NSW Police commissioner Andrew Scipione remains inside the Parramatta

headquarters with his three deputies and is being briefed by investigators.



He is expected to deliver a brief press conference just before 9pm to the assembled media following the high level meetings.

____ wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 5:24pm:

How many more shooting are we to put up with before the Baird mob  stops selling out to the gun lobby.

Who is the gun lobby, is it the members of parliament like the SFP who were elected in this democracy by the people of Australia?

The Greens are champions of illegals like that Lindt siege guy called Man Monis

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 9:23pm:

____ wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 5:24pm: How many more shooting are we to put up with before the Baird mob  stops selling out to the gun lobby. Who is the gun lobby, is it the members of parliament like the SFP who were elected in this democracy by the people of Australia? The Greens are champions of illegals like that Lindt siege guy called Man Monis

"illegals"?

The Liberal Party let him in and granted him citizenship.  All perfectly legal.

These attacks are becoming routine. If you ask me where has been the one area where there's been frustration, it is the fact that Australia is a nation in which, we do not have sufficient common-sense immigration laws, even in the face of repeated terrorist killings.

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 9:50pm:

These attacks are becoming routine. If you ask me where has been the one area where there's been frustration, it is the fact that Australia is a nation in which, we do not have sufficient common-sense immigration laws, even in the face of repeated terrorist killings.

Very true. I worry for our country.

Bet abbott's not happy. So close, yet so far.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:27pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from?

Looks like I was right from the outset. How stupid you must feel...


•Victim, a police IT worker, was ‘simply leaving work’ when shot dead
•Shooting happened outside Police HQ in Parramatta at 4.30pm
•Gunman shot dead by Special Constables after gunfight
•Children were trapped in daycare with dead body at door

THE gunman who shot dead a police staffer was a 15-year-old who had visited Parramatta Mosque on his way to commit murder.

The teenager, a naturalised Australian who arrived his with his family from Iran, had walked to the police headquarters in Charles Street from his home in North Parramatta before opening fire on a civilian police employee.

Police are today trying to track down the teenage killer’s family who may have left the area.

His victim was a father-of-two, a son and a daughter, who is understood to have worked in the finance area for police.

Witnesses have told The Saturday Telegraph that after shooting dead the civilian employee, the teenager ran up and down infront of police headquarters waving his handgun in the air and shouting: “Allah. Allah.”

It was then that two special constables on security duty ran from the police building and shot the gunman dead.

Police are trying to find out who radicalised the teenager.

He had no identification on him and it is understood to be his brother who rang police and said he thought he knew who the gunman was.

Security may be beefed up at tomorrow’s NRL grand final following the incident.

“An employee of the NSW Police Force has been callously murdered,” Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said last night. “I viewed a number of pieces of footage. I can tell you this was a brutal crime. A terrible crime.”

The gunman, walked past one ­female police officer before shooting the civilian employee in the back of the head.

It is not certain if the victim was known to the gunman, who had still not been identified late on Friday night.

Mr Scipione said the vision showed the civilian employee was “targeted”.

The attacker remained on the street after killing the public servant with a single shot and got into an exchange with special constables working in the building.

The commissioner praised the bravery of the special constables guarding the entrance, who have full police powers and who were sprayed with bullets by the gunman before he was shot dead.

He said police had not ruled out that the gunman, who had no identification on him, was working with others, although it was too soon to know the motive.

The Saturday Telegraph has learned messages had been sent to police to be on alert because people had been seen taking photographs of the entrance to the building, which houses the crack major crime squads.

Sources said the building had been “cased” and there had been “chatter” in recent weeks about a potential ­attack, but the target was not clear.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/parramatta-shooting-multiple-shots-fired-outside-police-hq-on-charles-street/story-fni0cx4q-1227554454582

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 8:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? Looks like I was right from the outset. How stupid you must feel... •Victim, a police IT worker, was ‘simply leaving work’ when shot dead •Shooting happened outside Police HQ in Parramatta at 4.30pm •Gunman shot dead by Special Constables after gunfight •Children were trapped in daycare with dead body at door THE gunman who shot dead a police staffer was a 15-year-old who had visited Parramatta Mosque on his way to commit murder. The teenager, a naturalised Australian who arrived his with his family from Iran, had walked to the police headquarters in Charles Street from his home in North Parramatta before opening fire on a civilian police employee. Police are today trying to track down the teenage killer’s family who may have left the area. His victim was a father-of-two, a son and a daughter, who is understood to have worked in the finance area for police. Witnesses have told The Saturday Telegraph that after shooting dead the civilian employee, the teenager ran up and down infront of police headquarters waving his handgun in the air and shouting: “Allah. Allah.” It was then that two special constables on security duty ran from the police building and shot the gunman dead. Police are trying to find out who radicalised the teenager. He had no identification on him and it is understood to be his brother who rang police and said he thought he knew who the gunman was. Security may be beefed up at tomorrow’s NRL grand final following the incident. “An employee of the NSW Police Force has been callously murdered,” Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said last night. “I viewed a number of pieces of footage. I can tell you this was a brutal crime. A terrible crime.” The gunman, walked past one ­female police officer before shooting the civilian employee in the back of the head. It is not certain if the victim was known to the gunman, who had still not been identified late on Friday night. Mr Scipione said the vision showed the civilian employee was “targeted”. The attacker remained on the street after killing the public servant with a single shot and got into an exchange with special constables working in the building. The commissioner praised the bravery of the special constables guarding the entrance, who have full police powers and who were sprayed with bullets by the gunman before he was shot dead. He said police had not ruled out that the gunman, who had no identification on him, was working with others, although it was too soon to know the motive. The Saturday Telegraph has learned messages had been sent to police to be on alert because people had been seen taking photographs of the entrance to the building, which houses the crack major crime squads. Sources said the building had been “cased” and there had been “chatter” in recent weeks about a potential ­attack, but the target was not clear. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/parramatta-shooting-multiple-shots-fired-outside-police-hq-on-charles-street/story-fni0cx4q-1227554454582

Whats that 3 deaths under the Libs now? We never had this problem when Labor were in.

Its time wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 8:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? Looks like I was right from the outset. How stupid you must feel... •Victim, a police IT worker, was ‘simply leaving work’ when shot dead •Shooting happened outside Police HQ in Parramatta at 4.30pm •Gunman shot dead by Special Constables after gunfight •Children were trapped in daycare with dead body at door THE gunman who shot dead a police staffer was a 15-year-old who had visited Parramatta Mosque on his way to commit murder. The teenager, a naturalised Australian who arrived his with his family from Iran, had walked to the police headquarters in Charles Street from his home in North Parramatta before opening fire on a civilian police employee. Police are today trying to track down the teenage killer’s family who may have left the area. His victim was a father-of-two, a son and a daughter, who is understood to have worked in the finance area for police. Witnesses have told The Saturday Telegraph that after shooting dead the civilian employee, the teenager ran up and down infront of police headquarters waving his handgun in the air and shouting: “Allah. Allah.” It was then that two special constables on security duty ran from the police building and shot the gunman dead. Police are trying to find out who radicalised the teenager. He had no identification on him and it is understood to be his brother who rang police and said he thought he knew who the gunman was. Security may be beefed up at tomorrow’s NRL grand final following the incident. “An employee of the NSW Police Force has been callously murdered,” Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said last night. “I viewed a number of pieces of footage. I can tell you this was a brutal crime. A terrible crime.” The gunman, walked past one ­female police officer before shooting the civilian employee in the back of the head. It is not certain if the victim was known to the gunman, who had still not been identified late on Friday night. Mr Scipione said the vision showed the civilian employee was “targeted”. The attacker remained on the street after killing the public servant with a single shot and got into an exchange with special constables working in the building. The commissioner praised the bravery of the special constables guarding the entrance, who have full police powers and who were sprayed with bullets by the gunman before he was shot dead. He said police had not ruled out that the gunman, who had no identification on him, was working with others, although it was too soon to know the motive. The Saturday Telegraph has learned messages had been sent to police to be on alert because people had been seen taking photographs of the entrance to the building, which houses the crack major crime squads. Sources said the building had been “cased” and there had been “chatter” in recent weeks about a potential ­attack, but the target was not clear. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/parramatta-shooting-multiple-shots-fired-outside-police-hq-on-charles-street/story-fni0cx4q-1227554454582 Whats that 3 deaths under the Libs now? We never had this problem when Labor were in.

What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 8:39am:

Its time wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:32am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? Looks like I was right from the outset. How stupid you must feel... •Victim, a police IT worker, was ‘simply leaving work’ when shot dead •Shooting happened outside Police HQ in Parramatta at 4.30pm •Gunman shot dead by Special Constables after gunfight •Children were trapped in daycare with dead body at door THE gunman who shot dead a police staffer was a 15-year-old who had visited Parramatta Mosque on his way to commit murder. The teenager, a naturalised Australian who arrived his with his family from Iran, had walked to the police headquarters in Charles Street from his home in North Parramatta before opening fire on a civilian police employee. Police are today trying to track down the teenage killer’s family who may have left the area. His victim was a father-of-two, a son and a daughter, who is understood to have worked in the finance area for police. Witnesses have told The Saturday Telegraph that after shooting dead the civilian employee, the teenager ran up and down infront of police headquarters waving his handgun in the air and shouting: “Allah. Allah.” It was then that two special constables on security duty ran from the police building and shot the gunman dead. Police are trying to find out who radicalised the teenager. He had no identification on him and it is understood to be his brother who rang police and said he thought he knew who the gunman was. Security may be beefed up at tomorrow’s NRL grand final following the incident. “An employee of the NSW Police Force has been callously murdered,” Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said last night. “I viewed a number of pieces of footage. I can tell you this was a brutal crime. A terrible crime.” The gunman, walked past one ­female police officer before shooting the civilian employee in the back of the head. It is not certain if the victim was known to the gunman, who had still not been identified late on Friday night. Mr Scipione said the vision showed the civilian employee was “targeted”. The attacker remained on the street after killing the public servant with a single shot and got into an exchange with special constables working in the building. The commissioner praised the bravery of the special constables guarding the entrance, who have full police powers and who were sprayed with bullets by the gunman before he was shot dead. He said police had not ruled out that the gunman, who had no identification on him, was working with others, although it was too soon to know the motive. The Saturday Telegraph has learned messages had been sent to police to be on alert because people had been seen taking photographs of the entrance to the building, which houses the crack major crime squads. Sources said the building had been “cased” and there had been “chatter” in recent weeks about a potential ­attack, but the target was not clear. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/parramatta-shooting-multiple-shots-fired-outside-police-hq-on-charles-street/story-fni0cx4q-1227554454582 Whats that 3 deaths under the Libs now? We never had this problem when Labor were in. What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate?

They weren't waving guns around because of poor foreign policy and antagonising our home grown brown people.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 8:39am:

What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate?

No.

Its time wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 8:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: Its time wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:32am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:27pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:26pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:24pm: ABC originally reported the two dead were police. Now its pretty obvious the only ones killed were the attackers. One terrorist and one bystander who was executed randomly  by the shooter. What terrorist organisation was he from? Looks like I was right from the outset. How stupid you must feel... •Victim, a police IT worker, was ‘simply leaving work’ when shot dead •Shooting happened outside Police HQ in Parramatta at 4.30pm •Gunman shot dead by Special Constables after gunfight •Children were trapped in daycare with dead body at door THE gunman who shot dead a police staffer was a 15-year-old who had visited Parramatta Mosque on his way to commit murder. The teenager, a naturalised Australian who arrived his with his family from Iran, had walked to the police headquarters in Charles Street from his home in North Parramatta before opening fire on a civilian police employee. Police are today trying to track down the teenage killer’s family who may have left the area. His victim was a father-of-two, a son and a daughter, who is understood to have worked in the finance area for police. Witnesses have told The Saturday Telegraph that after shooting dead the civilian employee, the teenager ran up and down infront of police headquarters waving his handgun in the air and shouting: “Allah. Allah.” It was then that two special constables on security duty ran from the police building and shot the gunman dead. Police are trying to find out who radicalised the teenager. He had no identification on him and it is understood to be his brother who rang police and said he thought he knew who the gunman was. Security may be beefed up at tomorrow’s NRL grand final following the incident. “An employee of the NSW Police Force has been callously murdered,” Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said last night. “I viewed a number of pieces of footage. I can tell you this was a brutal crime. A terrible crime.” The gunman, walked past one ­female police officer before shooting the civilian employee in the back of the head. It is not certain if the victim was known to the gunman, who had still not been identified late on Friday night. Mr Scipione said the vision showed the civilian employee was “targeted”. The attacker remained on the street after killing the public servant with a single shot and got into an exchange with special constables working in the building. The commissioner praised the bravery of the special constables guarding the entrance, who have full police powers and who were sprayed with bullets by the gunman before he was shot dead. He said police had not ruled out that the gunman, who had no identification on him, was working with others, although it was too soon to know the motive. The Saturday Telegraph has learned messages had been sent to police to be on alert because people had been seen taking photographs of the entrance to the building, which houses the crack major crime squads. Sources said the building had been “cased” and there had been “chatter” in recent weeks about a potential ­attack, but the target was not clear. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/parramatta-shooting-multiple-shots-fired-outside-police-hq-on-charles-street/story-fni0cx4q-1227554454582 Whats that 3 deaths under the Libs now? We never had this problem when Labor were in. What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? They weren't waving guns around because of poor foreign policy and antagonising our home grown brown people.

Typical lefty thinking, also wrong!

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 8:53am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No.

True, the correct figure is probably much higher.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 9:01am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher.

No.

Any more lies like this, and we'll have to start calling you Longy.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Islam presumably... or it could be communism, jedi or the liberal party... regardless - as long as its "politically motivated" it counts as terrorism. Which is why Man Horan Monis wasn't a terrorist - because it was a deliberate suicide mission to avoid going to gaol over the murder of his wife.

Ohhh - Muslim or communist or jedi or liberal party - because the occurence of terrorism around the world by these groups is pretty evenly distributed, none more prominent and active than the other.

And hanging the ISIS flag in the window and pledging allegiance to ISIS are undesipherable clues as to his allegiances. One simply must not believe what Muslims are actually saying or doing. They are duped.

Or if not, then they are a tiny minority.
Or if not, then there are other, more reforming Muslims.
Or if not, then they are not doing and saying terriblle things 24/7, they sometimes say and do other things so they can't be all bad.

In any case, there is a global conspiracy against Islam, that's for sure.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2015 at 7:11pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK?

No, you persnickety, pedantic pr!k, it's the massive elephant in every room - Muslim terrorism.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 9:01am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher.

More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:21am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher. More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie.

I don't think any of the deaths are OK.

Labor should be ashamed of themselves, as should those who lie about the figures.

Using dead people to score political points is pretty low.

Soren wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 9:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK? No, you persnickety, pedantic pr!k, it's the massive elephant in every room - Muslim terrorism.

Making excuses for murderers again, I see.

You're a hopeless apologist, Sore End.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:24am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:21am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher. More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie. I don't think any of the deaths are OK. Labor should be ashamed of themselves, as should those who lie about the figures. Using dead people to score political points is pretty low.

I get the sense that you are a bit grumpy Pecca. Didn't sleep well perhaps?? :-?

NSW Police Commissioner said the gunman acted alone and that he is of Iraqi/Kurdish descent.

double plus good wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:24am: mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:21am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher. More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie. I don't think any of the deaths are OK. Labor should be ashamed of themselves, as should those who lie about the figures. Using dead people to score political points is pretty low. I get the sense that you are a bit grumpy Pecca. Didn't sleep well perhaps?? :-?

Not grumpy.

Just disappointed that there are so many low life people in this country who enjoy scoring political points by exploiting the deaths of innocent children.

I can understand how that doesn't phase you, though.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:30am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:26am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:24am: mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:21am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher. More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie. I don't think any of the deaths are OK. Labor should be ashamed of themselves, as should those who lie about the figures. Using dead people to score political points is pretty low. I get the sense that you are a bit grumpy Pecca. Didn't sleep well perhaps?? :-? Not grumpy. Just disappointed that there are so many low life people in this country who enjoy scoring political points by exploiting the deaths of innocent children. I can understand how that doesn't phase you, though.

it is 'faze'. You are just as bad by the way you pedantically address the number of deaths as if to a truly moral person it would make any difference. The fact is there were large numbers of deaths. THAT is the issue be it 100 or 2000.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:37am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:30am: double plus good wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:26am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:24am: mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:21am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher. More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie. I don't think any of the deaths are OK. Labor should be ashamed of themselves, as should those who lie about the figures. Using dead people to score political points is pretty low. I get the sense that you are a bit grumpy Pecca. Didn't sleep well perhaps?? :-? Not grumpy. Just disappointed that there are so many low life people in this country who enjoy scoring political points by exploiting the deaths of innocent children. I can understand how that doesn't phase you, though. it is 'faze'. You are just as bad by the way you pedantically address the number of deaths as if to a truly moral person it would make any difference. The fact is there were large numbers of deaths. THAT is the issue be it 100 or 2000.

Nice deflection.


http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/1196474423529bm1.jpg


The fact is, you try to score political points, from the death of innocent children, by inflating the figures.

That's not on, Longy.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:40am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:37am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:30am: double plus good wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:26am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:24am: mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:21am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher. More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie. I don't think any of the deaths are OK. Labor should be ashamed of themselves, as should those who lie about the figures. Using dead people to score political points is pretty low. I get the sense that you are a bit grumpy Pecca. Didn't sleep well perhaps?? :-? Not grumpy. Just disappointed that there are so many low life people in this country who enjoy scoring political points by exploiting the deaths of innocent children. I can understand how that doesn't phase you, though. it is 'faze'. You are just as bad by the way you pedantically address the number of deaths as if to a truly moral person it would make any difference. The fact is there were large numbers of deaths. THAT is the issue be it 100 or 2000. Nice deflection. http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/1196474423529bm1.jpg The fact is, you try to score political points, from the death of innocent children, by inflating the figures. That's not on, Longy.

By continuing to pedantically argue about the numbers, it is YOU who is seeking to score points. The number is debatable. The fact is not.

The point is Wee Johnnie Howard's policy has created a problem with a massive underground trade in firearms, and the possession of firearms by all kinds of people who have no idea of either sense of legal use of them, and no intention of abiding by any rules.

Had legal firearms been left with their owners, we would not be having this problem, but the moment the whole deal went south with gun confiscation by any name, hundreds of thousands of them went on the market immediately.

I was in Queensland just before the cut-off date, and you could buy automatic weapons for $300.

That's what this mad rush caused here - and those with stashes of illegal cash lapped them up like a cat licking milk.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:40am: mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:37am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:30am: double plus good wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:26am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:24am: mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:21am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher. More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie. I don't think any of the deaths are OK. Labor should be ashamed of themselves, as should those who lie about the figures. Using dead people to score political points is pretty low. I get the sense that you are a bit grumpy Pecca. Didn't sleep well perhaps?? :-? Not grumpy. Just disappointed that there are so many low life people in this country who enjoy scoring political points by exploiting the deaths of innocent children. I can understand how that doesn't phase you, though. it is 'faze'. You are just as bad by the way you pedantically address the number of deaths as if to a truly moral person it would make any difference. The fact is there were large numbers of deaths. THAT is the issue be it 100 or 2000. Nice deflection. http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/1196474423529bm1.jpg The fact is, you try to score political points, from the death of innocent children, by inflating the figures. That's not on, Longy. By continuing to pedantically argue about the numbers, it is YOU who is seeking to score points. The number is debatable. The fact is not.

Too late, Longy.

You and Armpit are the ones who continually lie about the figures in order to score political points from dead children.

I'm just the one reminding everyone that that's what you two are up to.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 11:02am:

The point is Wee Johnnie Howard's policy has created a problem with a massive underground trade in firearms, and the possession of firearms by all kinds of people who have no idea of either sense of legal use of them, and no intention of abiding by any rules. Had legal firearms been left with their owners, we would not be having this problem, but the moment the whole deal went south with gun confiscation by any name, hundreds of thousands of them went on the market immediately. I was in Queensland just before the cut-off date, and you could buy automatic weapons for $300. That's what this mad rush caused here - and those with stashes of illegal cash lapped them up like a cat licking milk.

What problem? Where are the mass shootings?

None so blind as they who choose not to see --- the entire problem of illegal firearms out there.... the issue of massacre could arise at any time since these are mostly done by possessors of illegal or unlicenced arms anyway.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 12:59pm:

None so blind as they who choose not to see --- the entire problem of illegal firearms out there.... the issue of massacre could arise at any time since these are mostly done by possessors of illegal or unlicenced arms anyway.

Except that in the USA the vast majority of guns are legally obtained and the shooters dont have criminal records.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:26am:

Soren wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:52am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK? No, you persnickety, pedantic pr!k, it's the massive elephant in every room - Muslim terrorism. Making excuses for murderers again, I see. You're a hopeless apologist, Sore End.

When you deploy this stupid trope we all know that you are f Vcked and you know it.

Ta.

Soren wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 4:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:26am: Soren wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:52am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:11pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 7:08pm: Sounds like a terrorist attack to me going by the description of the gunman and his target. Quite possibly. The IRA, perhaps? KKK? No, you persnickety, pedantic pr!k, it's the massive elephant in every room - Muslim terrorism. Making excuses for murderers again, I see. You're a hopeless apologist, Sore End. When you deploy this stupid trope we all know that you are f Vcked and you know it. Ta.

You're an apologist, Sore End.

You always make excuses for murderers.

Do you have some sort of vested interest?

mariacostel wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 1:55pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 12:59pm: None so blind as they who choose not to see --- the entire problem of illegal firearms out there.... the issue of massacre could arise at any time since these are mostly done by possessors of illegal or unlicenced arms anyway. Except that in the USA the vast majority of guns are legally obtained and the shooters dont have criminal records.

Not until they kill someone, that is.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 1:55pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 12:59pm: None so blind as they who choose not to see --- the entire problem of illegal firearms out there.... the issue of massacre could arise at any time since these are mostly done by possessors of illegal or unlicenced arms anyway. Except that in the USA the vast majority of guns are legally obtained and the shooters dont have criminal records.

You'll find most of the mass murderers are f....ken loons, they have a loon with guns problem not a gun problem.


We have as many guns now as we did before fuehrer howard had his bright idea, we now have less loons with guns and therefore less mass shootings. As seen today we are not loon free, with just another lunatic muslim who got an (probably) illegal handgun.

Get rid of loons, religious and otherwise.

A 15.5 kid can't legally own a firearm, and I can't see how his parents would get a licence for one.  So it's either stolen, hence illegal, or it is an underground gun either brought in here or purchased on the black market that thrives in the sale of such thing within certain ethnic groups - the same ethnic groups that the deposed NSW Police Commissioner, Peter Ryan, had the temerity to name and be swatted by Commissar Carr for 'discrimination'.

One of the joys of being older is that you know and remember one hell of a lot.....

It was well known in the police and security community that you could buy a 'Saturday Night Special' at the Mekong Club in Carbramatta for a hundred bucks - in the late 1980's.

double plus good wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:24am: mariacostel wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 10:21am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:53am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 8:39am: What was the death tally under Labor? Something like 1,100 dead at sea as a conservative estimate? No. True, the correct figure is probably much higher. More than likely a lot higher. Although for some reason Greg thinks that 1000 deaths is okay but 1100 is a scurrilous lie. I don't think any of the deaths are OK. Labor should be ashamed of themselves, as should those who lie about the figures. Using dead people to score political points is pretty low. I get the sense that you are a bit grumpy Pecca. Didn't sleep well perhaps?? :-?

You're confusing grumpy with dopey.