The consequences for offspring of consanguineous marriages are unpleasantly clear: Death, low intelligence or even mental retardation, handicaps and diseases often leading to a slow and painful death. Other consequences are:

Limited social skills and understanding, limited ability to manage education and work procedures and painful treatment procedures. The negative cognitive consequences also influence the executive functions. The impairment of concentration and emotional control most often leads to anti-social behavior.

The economic costs and consequences for society of inbreeding are of course secondary to the reality of human suffering.

However, inbreeding among Muslims has severe implications for both the Western societies and the Muslim world.

Expenses related to mentally and physically handicapped Muslim immigrants drains the budget for other public services: "When cousins have children together, they are twice as likely to have a disabled child - it costs municipal funds dearly. Disabled immigrant children costs Danish municipalities millions. In Copenhagen County alone, the number of disabled children in the overall increase of 100 percent at 10 years. ... Meredith Lefelt has contacted 330 families with disabled children in Copenhagen. She estimates that one third of their clients have a foreign cultural background." (BT, 10/11 2003 Immigrants inbreeding costing one million.

On top come the expenses for Muslim immigrants who - because of different consequences of being born from blood related parents - are not able to live up to the challenges of our Western work market: Muslim immigrants and their descendants in Europe have a very high rate of unemployment.

The same goes for Muslims in USA, where the Gallup Institute made a study involving 300.000 people concluding “The majority of Muslims in USA have a lower income, are less educated and have worse jobs than the population as a whole.” (Berlingske Tidende, d. 3. marts 2009: Muslims thrive in USA.

The cognitive consequences of Muslim inbreeding might explain why non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the Danish army's intelligence test than native Danes: "19.3% of non-Western immigrants are not able to pass the Danish army's intelligence test. In comparison, only 4.7% of applicants with Danish background do not pass." (TV 2 Nyhederne, 13/6 2007 Immigrants flunk army test.

It probably also explains - at least partly - why two thirds of all immigrant school children with Arabic backgrounds are illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system: "Those who speak Arabic with their parents have an extreme tendency to lack reading abilities - 64 percent are illiterate. ... No matter if it concerns reading abilities, mathematics or science, the pattern is the same: The bilingual (largely Muslim) immigrants' skills are exceedingly poor compared to their Danish classmates." (Rockwool Foundation Research Unit, May 2007: Ethnic students does not make Danish children worse.

The high expenses on special education for slow learners consumes one third of the budget for the Danish schools. “Immigrant children are clearly overrepresented on Copenhagen’s schools for retarded children and children with physical handicaps. … 51 percent of the children on the three schools in Copenhagen for children with physical and mental handicaps har immigrant back ground and on one of the schools the amount is 70 percent. … These amounts are significantly higher than the share of immigrant children in the municipality, which is 33 percent. The many handicapped children are a clear evidence that there are many intermarried parents in the immigrant families.” (Jydske Vestkysten, 4/4 2009 Tosprogede i overtal på handicapskoler).

Our high level of education may also make it harder for inbred students to follow and finish their studies: "Young people with minority backgrounds have a significantly higher dropout rate at secondary schools than youth with a Danish background. For trade school education, the dropout rate among immigrants is 60 percent, twice as high among adolescents with a Danish background....

There is great variation in educational outcomes when compared with national origin. For example, dropout among young people with Lebanese or Iranian background is far greater than among people of Vietnamese background." (Center for Knowledge on Integration in Randers, May 2005 “Youth, education and integration“). ”Among immigrant children that are born and raised in Denmark, more than a third has no education. Among native Danes it is less than one fifth that do not get an education. (Statistics Denmark: “Indvandrere i 2007”.

The negative consequences of inbreeding are also vast for the Muslim world. Inbreeding may thus explain why only nine Muslims ever managed to receive the prestigious Nobel Prize (5 of them won the "Peace Prize" - for peace that turned out not to last for very long).

The limited ability to understand, appreciate and produce knowledge following a limited IQ is probably also partly the reason why Muslim countries produce 1/10 of the World average when it comes to scientific research: "In 2003, the world average for production of articles per million inhabitants was 137, whereas none of the 47 OIC countries for which there were data achieved production above 107 per million inhabitants. The OIC average was just 13." (Nature 444, p. 26-27, 1. November 2006 ”Islam and science: The data gap”.

The lack of interest in science and human development in the Muslim World is also clear in the UN Arab Human Development Reports (AHDR). AHDR concludes that there have been fewer books translated into Arabic in the last thousand years than the amount of books translated within the country of Spain every year:

"The Arab world translates about 330 books annually, one fifth of the number that Greece translates. The cumulative total of translated books since the Caliph Maa'moun's [sic] time (the ninth century) is about 100,000, almost the average that Spain translates in one year." (Eugene Rogan ”Arab Books and human development”. Index of Censorship, vol. 33, issue 2 April 2004, p. 152-157). "70 percent of the Turkish citizens never read books."(APA, 23 February 2009 “).

Conclusion

There is no doubt that the wide spread tradition of first cousin marriages among Muslims has harmed the gene pool among Muslims. Because Muslims’ religious beliefs prohibit marrying non-Muslims and thus prevents them from adding fresh genetic material to their population, the genetic damage done to their gene pool since their prophet allowed first cousin marriages 1,400 years ago are most likely massive. The overwhelming direct and indirect human and societal consequences have been explained above.

Compassion for the health of future generations should be enough to ban intermarriage among first cousins. The economic and societal consequences do also count. Such a ban would also lessen Muslim immigration to the West because many Muslim families would like to be able to continue their practice of intermarriage in order to live up to cultural and religious traditions and keep wealth and power inside their family.

A legislative ban on first cousin marriages is a logical and compassionate imperative for both the Muslim world, for EU and our Western national governments.

Other articles by Nicolai Sennels:

    Interview to EuropeNews, marts 31st 2009 “Danish psychologist: “Integration of Muslims in Western societies is not possible”.
    Interview to The German Review of Books, December 2009: The one thing Muslim immigrants fear is being deported

Interview to the Finnish Hommaforum, December 17th 2009: An interview with Nicolai Sennels

Gates of Vienna, April 11th 2010: The Stigmatization Fallacy

Article in New English Review, May 2010: Muslims and Westerners: The psychological differences

Review on Gates of Vienna, May 8th 2010: Islam Means Never Having to say you’re sorry

Interview in FrontPage Magazine, May 5th 2010: Among Criminal Muslims
Conference on FrontPageMagazine, June 21st 2010: A psychiatric Conference on Truthful Girl

Article on Europenews.dk, 5. februar 2010: Sexual abuse widespread among Muslims
180Grader, europenews.dk, GatesofVienna etc., July 28th 2010: Open letter to David Cameron regarding Turkey

Nicolai Sennels is a psychologist and author of “Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist’s Experiences from Copenhagen Municipality.”

They drain their own societies of everything they are worth then turn their violence on each other and then infest other countries to destroy. What a shame islamic inbreeding creates such intellectual spastics. You would have to be one to believe the bullshit they do. Allah the great spastic.

Question: Which countries benefit from Middle Eastern migration?
Answer: I don't know, but it sure isn't Australia.

The ones they leave I guess, taking their bile ideology with them.

Do you reckon when Mohammad number 15,000,001 leaves Buttfukistahn all the other Mohammads say, "Thank Allah we got rid of that lazy, illiterate,inbred nutjob". Only another 15 million to go".

Funny thing happened the other day Ordinaryguy. A Paki moved in next door. His place looks like a bomb hit it. The first time I spoke to him he was whinging about the smell of the fertilizer I put on my lawn and the fact that a paperbark tree hangs over his fence. That bloody tree is a 100 years old. Anyway the other day I get a knock on the door and it's him. He says it's Eid (when they finished fasting) and it's his duty to give his neighbours a gift. Out comes a bag of goat meat. I thought that's nice. Anyway we were having a chinwag and he proceeds to tell me he's going to make our 8 ft colorbond fence higher. It sort of went in one ear and out the other. Then it hit me later. He can't do that. It's illegal and it's OUR fence, not his. I'm waiting for him to start modifying the fence so I can ring the council. He thought he's butter me up with some goat so he can lay on me that's he's about to ruin our fence. Muslims are a pain in the ass.

Good thing Islamophobia has nothing to do with racism

Islamaphobia is a bulls$#t, made up term to deflect criticism away from a primitive, violent religion. You'll have to do better than meaningless buzz words.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 4:00pm:

Islamaphobia is a bulls$#t, made up term to deflect criticism away from a primitive, violent religion. You'll have to do better than meaningless buzz words.

Exactly. Islamophobia has nothing to do with race.

Inbreeding aside, I mean.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:25pm:

Funny thing happened the other day Ordinaryguy. A Paki moved in next door. His place looks like a bomb hit it. The first time I spoke to him he was whinging about the smell of the fertilizer I put on my lawn and the fact that a paperbark tree hangs over his fence. That bloody tree is a 100 years old. Anyway the other day I get a knock on the door and it's him. He says it's Eid (when they finished fasting) and it's his duty to give his neighbours a gift. Out comes a bag of goat meat. I thought that's nice. Anyway we were having a chinwag and he proceeds to tell me he's going to make our 8 ft colorbond fence higher. It sort of went in one ear and out the other. Then it hit me later. He can't do that. It's illegal and it's OUR fence, not his. I'm waiting for him to start modifying the fence so I can ring the council. He thought he's butter me up with some goat so he can lay on me that's he's about to ruin our fence. Muslims are a pain in the ass.

Ah. So you now have a legitimate Paki living next door to you and Mum, eh? Not one of those boongs you went to school with, but a real, gen-u-wine Paki.

Your story is, of course, 100%, unadulterated, absolute, authentic TRUTH. Especially since Eid was almost 3 months ago.

Salaam Aleikum, effendi. Welcome to Western Sydney.

Apologies Carnal, I was being informal when I said the other day. I meant 2 and a half months ago. That inaccuracy discredits the entire story, does it? He also keeps his wife and kid captive in the house, leaves rubbish all over the place and over prunes the trees out the front of our house.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 5:30pm:

Apologies Carnal, I was being informal when I said the other day. I meant 2 and a half months ago. That inaccuracy discredits the entire story, does it? He also keeps his wife and kid captive in the house, leaves rubbish all over the place and over prunes the trees out the front of our house.

Oh, I know. You were, of course, fertilizing your lawn and having chinwags over the fence in the middle of Winter. As you do.

They refuse to assimilate, no?

They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks.

None of the Muslims i've met meet that description.

You must attract some unsavoury people Double.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks.

He sounds like a really anal garden-Nazi, Homo.

A bit like you fertilizing your lawn in Winter. Was that Mum’s idea or his?

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double.

Some of them even deliver fresh goat meat.

The goat part was a nice touch, don’t you think?

Homo really had to rack his brains for that one.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 5:30pm:

Apologies Carnal, I was being informal when I said the other day. I meant 2 and a half months ago. That inaccuracy discredits the entire story, does it?

That, and the fact that it was written by you.



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Karnal wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Some of them even deliver fresh goat meat. The goat part was a nice touch, don’t you think? Homo really had to rack his brains for that one.

 

Very evocative. I was impressed.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double.

Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny.

Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double.

Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks?

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 7:24pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks?

They are. I don't know of any group trying to bring down the government but radical Muslims.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 7:26pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? They are. I don't know of any group trying to bring down the government but radical Muslims.

Where is this evidence of people trying to bring down the government Double?

And what are they doing to try to bring down the government?

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:26pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? They are. I don't know of any group trying to bring down the government but radical Muslims. Where is this evidence of people trying to bring down the government Double? And what are they doing to try to bring down the government?

Well they've had multiple terrorist plans foiled dear. They had a plan to blow up Lucas Heights nuclear reactor which would have been a unimaginable disaster. You need to wake up and pull your head out of your ass. What I'm about is waking people up any way i know how. And what I am saying is coming true. Wherever Muslims are is becoming very dangerous.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:29pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:26pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? They are. I don't know of any group trying to bring down the government but radical Muslims. Where is this evidence of people trying to bring down the government Double? And what are they doing to try to bring down the government? Well they've had multiple terrorist plans foiled dear. They had a plan to blow up Lucas Heights nuclear reactor which would have been a unimaginable disaster. You need to wake up and pull your head out of your ass. What I'm about is waking people up any way i know how. And what I am saying is coming true. Wherever Muslims are is becoming very dangerous.

Calm down. You've worked yourself up into a state. Nobody is blowing up Lucas Heights,  nobody is going to  overthrow the government. We've had a few acts of violence out of a population of many, many thousands.

Just like every other demographic.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:33pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:29pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:26pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? They are. I don't know of any group trying to bring down the government but radical Muslims. Where is this evidence of people trying to bring down the government Double? And what are they doing to try to bring down the government? Well they've had multiple terrorist plans foiled dear. They had a plan to blow up Lucas Heights nuclear reactor which would have been a unimaginable disaster. You need to wake up and pull your head out of your ass. What I'm about is waking people up any way i know how. And what I am saying is coming true. Wherever Muslims are is becoming very dangerous. Calm down. You've worked yourself up into a state. Nobody is blowing up Lucas Heights,  nobody is going to  overthrow the government. We've had a few acts of violence out of a population of many, many thousands. Just like every other demographic.

You didn't get the back of your head blown out for no reason. Did you?

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 7:24pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks?

What are the other lots of people to which you are referring?

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring?

Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:38pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related.

Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-)

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing

Neither are non-Islamists.

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-)

I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:04pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main.

But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:06pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:04pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main. But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem.

It's not a part of Islam. It is some very troubled individuals being fanatic.

Fanatics come in all sorts.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:59pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing  Neither are non-Islamists.

Then by  all means object to them doing so.  I promise I wont make any excuses for them, or attempt to change the conversation or deny that they are doing so. 

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:59pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing  Neither are non-Islamists. Then by  all means object to them doing so.  I promise I wont make any excuses for them, or attempt to change the conversation or deny that they are doing so.

How about we do. We just don't lump them into categories that don't represent the main.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:09pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:06pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:04pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main. But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem. It's not a part of Islam. It is some very troubled individuals being fanatic. Fanatics come in all sorts.

Look at the world Mothra. We've imported a problem that will test Australia . This is inter generational and is here for a long time.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:10pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:59pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing  Neither are non-Islamists. Then by  all means object to them doing so.  I promise I wont make any excuses for them, or attempt to change the conversation or deny that they are doing so.  How about we do. We just don't lump them into categories that don't represent the main.

You do?  Which other murderers do you make excuses for, change the conversation about or deny that they are doing so?

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:06pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:04pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main. But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem. It's not a part of Islam. It is some very troubled individuals being fanatic. Fanatics come in all sorts. Look at the world Mothra. We've imported a problem that will test Australia . This is inter generational and is here for a long time.

I don't agree. I think you're panicking.

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:12pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:10pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:59pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing  Neither are non-Islamists. Then by  all means object to them doing so.  I promise I wont make any excuses for them, or attempt to change the conversation or deny that they are doing so.  How about we do. We just don't lump them into categories that don't represent the main. You do?  Which other murderers do you make excuses for, change the conversation about or deny that they are doing so?

Who have i made excuses for?

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:12pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:06pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:04pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main. But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem. It's not a part of Islam. It is some very troubled individuals being fanatic. Fanatics come in all sorts. Look at the world Mothra. We've imported a problem that will test Australia . This is inter generational and is here for a long time. I don't agree. I think you're panicking.

Are you sure?

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:18pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:17pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:12pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:06pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:04pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main. But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem. It's not a part of Islam. It is some very troubled individuals being fanatic. Fanatics come in all sorts. Look at the world Mothra. We've imported a problem that will test Australia . This is inter generational and is here for a long time. I don't agree. I think you're panicking. Are you sure?

I'm sure you're panicking.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:18pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:17pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:12pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:06pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:04pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main. But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem. It's not a part of Islam. It is some very troubled individuals being fanatic. Fanatics come in all sorts. Look at the world Mothra. We've imported a problem that will test Australia . This is inter generational and is here for a long time. I don't agree. I think you're panicking. Are you sure?

Yes.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:18pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:17pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:12pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:09pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:06pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:04pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main. But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem. It's not a part of Islam. It is some very troubled individuals being fanatic. Fanatics come in all sorts. Look at the world Mothra. We've imported a problem that will test Australia . This is inter generational and is here for a long time. I don't agree. I think you're panicking. Are you sure? Yes.

:D :D :D :D

Listen Double, i don't think most of the world's Muslims are coming for us. The absolute vast majority of the world's Muslims are peace loving and just want to be free to live their lives, however integrated that is.

I accept that there is a fanatical element but that is in the extreme minority. Even over in the Middle East, it is the extreme minority.

I'm not saying it isn't a problem but it is no more a problem than any other demographic having a hissy fit.

Muslims aren't out to get you. Stop panicking. The vast majority of Muslims assimilate beautifully.

Fight the real power. That is aggression and misplace of power wherever you see it. People acting in the name of Islam is a tiny percentage of violent crime in this country ... it just gathers a great deal of attention.

You are not in any danger. No more than any of the rest of us. Just relax and live and let live.

Did you brain dead apologists read the article? Studies of Muslims in Denmark have shown just how poorly Muslims integrate. They know it ; and the vast number of Australians that aren't lonely, old pathetic OP m.o.r.o.n.s  know it. This country is FINALLY waking up to the yoke we are putting around the neck of future generations by importing this global scourge.

Start building internment camps Mal.

A new innovative industry for Australia

Then lock them all up until they convert to Christianity.

double plus good wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:06pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 10:04pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:55pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 9:38pm: Secret Wars wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 7:21pm: mothra wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:18pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:12pm: They're  dirty, intimidating  pigs. Assimilate;  no thanks. None of the Muslims i've met meet that description. You must attract some unsavoury people Double. Doesn't detract from the fact that certain Muslim people  are causing big problems in Australia granny. Lots of people are causing big problems in Sydney Double. Why shouldn't Muslims be represented amongst their ranks? What are the other lots of people to which you are referring? Violence every day on the news. Not all of it Muslim related. Unfortunately for you, people are well over the apologists efforts to divert, distract, and  mitigate.   And Islamists are not about to stop shooting and stabbing so you best work out your best excuses and assign them a hot key,  they are going to get a work out.   8-) I think most people understand that the actions of this buggered up kid aren't representative of Islam in the main. But it's a part of Islam and will always be a part of Islam in Australia. This will never go away. I feel sorry for the police having to deal with this permanent problem.

Illegal tree-loppers?

double plus good wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 3:32am:

Did you brain dead apologists read the article? Studies of Muslims in Denmark have shown just how poorly Muslims integrate. They know it ; and the vast number of Australians that aren't lonely, old pathetic OP m.o.r.o.n.s  know it. This country is FINALLY waking up to the yoke we are putting around the neck of future generations by importing this global scourge.

I know, Homo.

But the goat meat’s to die for, no?

Cram the goat meat with walnuts-just stop bringing Muslims into this country. If we refuse to learn from the experiences from countries such as Denmark can we at least learn from our own? Is that too much to ask for ferk's sake?

double plus good wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:08am:

Cram the goat meat with walnuts-just stop bringing Muslims into this country. If we refuse to learn from the experiences from countries such as Denmark can we at least learn from our own? Is that too much to ask for ferk's sake?

Ah yes, dear, but we're learning from the experiences of us. Why would we learn from Denmark when there's a suburb right here in our own country with a dirty, tree-lopping, goat meat-eating Paki?

Okay, he may not be a Paki, he may not eat goat-meat, and he's definitely not a Muslim, but I do feel we need to base our laws on our own experience, no?

That's just example-and the least offensive at that. Do you really want the whole list, sweetheart?

With Karnal being one (ie the Title of this thread) do you really expect him to understand how to learn from someone else or another country.

I am wondering when they will allow muslim culling on weekends. It sorted the kangaroos out and boosted the hunting season.

double plus good wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

That's just example-and the least offensive at that. Do you really want the whole list, sweetheart?

I'd love it, Homo. Please tell me about all the Muslims who visit your home to offer goat meat and discuss tree-lopping. Maybe you'll uncover something really sinister and we can all blame Islam.

Karnal wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 2:55pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 5:31pm: That's just example-and the least offensive at that. Do you really want the whole list, sweetheart? I'd love it, Homo. Please tell me about all the Muslims who visit your home to offer goat meat and discuss tree-lopping. Maybe you'll uncover something really sinister and we can all blame Islam.

and don't forget fertilising the lawn...

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 13th, 2015 at 2:55pm: double plus good wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 5:31pm: That's just example-and the least offensive at that. Do you really want the whole list, sweetheart? I'd love it, Homo. Please tell me about all the Muslims who visit your home to offer goat meat and discuss tree-lopping. Maybe you'll uncover something really sinister and we can all blame Islam. and don't forget fertilising the lawn...

That was Homo. Maybe he was trying to keep his neighbour's goats out.

I could tell you how the Muslim next door won't let his wife and daughter leave the house. My wife works for Centrelink; I could tell you about how Muslim men speak to her like garbage and won't let their wives talk. I could you about all the violent crimes and thefts committed by young Muslim men in the area. We could discuss the acts of terror, the Lebanese drug gangs, the inproportionate representation of Muslims in gaol and on welfare. What exactly would you like to discuss, darling heart?

You shouldn't be asking what's wrong with Muslims, you should be asking what's right with them.

They don't just blow here in the wind - we bring them here - but nobody seems to know what for.  That they don't bring anything of benefit but do bring problems, it is objectively wrong to continue their importation. 

If for some reason we should find that we need more Islam, we can grow enough here, thanks.

True they bring nothing, even the ones here on this forum really bring nothing lets face it.

I believe the pollies bought them for votes originally. They clearly knew nothing about them.
They bloody well know now and so does everyone else.

double plus good wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

I could tell you how the Muslim next door won't let his wife and daughter leave the house. My wife works for Centrelink; I could tell you about how Muslim men speak to her like garbage and won't let their wives talk. I could you about all the violent crimes and thefts committed by young Muslim men in the area. We could discuss the acts of terror, the Lebanese drug gangs, the inproportionate representation of Muslims in gaol and on welfare. What exactly would you like to discuss, darling heart?

I’d like to discuss your wife. You only admitted recently you live with your mum.

You’ve been listening to Ray Hadley again, no?

I’ll let you in on a secret, Homo. Most of those emails he reads on air are from Amerika. Most of the callers say things they’ve overheard: "my wife was in Centrelink the other day, and she..." blah blah blah.

Ray calls himself an "enternainer", not a current affairs host or journalist (!). This explains why he was Mr Abbott’s first choice of media, (after Mr Abbott’s routine leaks to the Tele.)

Your fun facts are pretty obvious. If I was you, I’d give up on the whole Muslim neighbour thing. You tried this with the Abos at school, but we all saw through that one too. Your problem is you just can’t lie convincingly.

Take this as a compliment, Homo. Stick to quoting Ray. Your stories are so dumb, it’s obvious you’re just having a laugh.

No worries, but if you want to pretend, you need to learn about detail: the friend of all artifice.

Its nice to see the OP proven true.

Your wife thinks it’s nice, Homo.

Better put some more lawn fertiliser on her.

Gee muslims are just so smart and intelligent.

Better start liking them after reading such intellect on here.

Yes, Carnal, a laugh.
:o :o :o :o :o