Morrison & Corman.

With these two guys in charge of the govt finances we have nothing to worry about.
And the investment banker looking over their shoulder to make sure they stay focussed on the real world and not the phoney world as described to them by the bureaucracy.

Although I will say, it appears that Turnbull has made some wise choices in terms of his chief advisors, taking us back to the well-managed days of Hawke, Keating and Howard. By all accounts, he has struck the right balance in his office of good solid bureaucrats, political and media advisors.

As I have already said, look forward to a solid 10 years of Turnbull.

**weeps tears of blood**

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Morrison & Corman. With these two guys in charge of the govt finances we have nothing to worry about. And the investment banker looking over their shoulder to make sure they stay focussed on the real world and not the phoney world as described to them by the bureaucracy. Although I will say, it appears that Turnbull has made some wise choices in terms of his chief advisors, taking us back to the well-managed days of Hawke, Keating and Howard. By all accounts, he has struck the right balance in his office of good solid bureaucrats, political and media advisors. As I have already said, look forward to a solid 10 years of Turnbull.

bullshyte   4 terms  ;) ;) ;)

Yes what a 'great team'... for other parties to increase support.


So when is the challenge by morrison on turnbull planned?

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!!

:-? :-? :-?

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Morrison & Corman. With these two guys in charge of the govt finances we have nothing to worry about.

Can't think of many things of a bigger concern.

They have put the vampires in charge of the blood bank.

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-?

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey


He got the job as a condition of selling out Abbott and not because he knows anything about the economy. A mean and nastier version of poor old dumb Joe.

What a great team!!!!

It's what you find underneath the bottom of the barrel.

Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum:

http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html

Cormann is just an idiot.

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Morrison & Corman. With these two guys in charge of the govt finances we have nothing to worry about. And the investment banker looking over their shoulder to make sure they stay focussed on the real world and not the phoney world as described to them by the bureaucracy. Although I will say, it appears that Turnbull has made some wise choices in terms of his chief advisors, taking us back to the well-managed days of Hawke, Keating and Howard. By all accounts, he has struck the right balance in his office of good solid bureaucrats, political and media advisors. As I have already said, look forward to a solid 10 years of Turnbull.

is it for the fact that they have done nothing that you applaud them ?

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-?

Too early to ask for history. What I'm saying is, in Morrison we have a guy who is a proven achiever even if you don't agree with the policy. He gets done what he sets out to do. Whereas Hockey was a mistake from before the start.
Corman is a very competent behind the scenes person.
Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands.

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? Too early to ask for history. What I'm saying is, in Morrison we have a guy who is a proven achiever even if you don't agree with the policy. He gets done what he sets out to do. Whereas Hockey was a mistake from before the start. Corman is a very competent behind the scenes person. Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands.

No excuses not to reduce the real debt and deficit disaster that sloppy and abort have nearly tripled then .

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? Too early to ask for history. What I'm saying is, in Morrison we have a guy who is a proven achiever even if you don't agree with the policy. He gets done what he sets out to do. Whereas Hockey was a mistake from before the start. Corman is a very competent behind the scenes person. Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands.

didn't do so well as director of tourism Australia ('where the bloody hell are you' campaign was a flop), did Ok with policies against non voters, didn't do much in his very short time as social services minister

for me that's a one from two, 50% strike rate. (forget social services as he wasn't there long enough) . That's not a proven achiever, that's someone who waddles along getting by. Keep in mind that the various aspects of the asylum seeker polices weren't his own ideas, all he did was come up with 'operational secrecy'.

Interest rates are a good indicator on where we're at and so far they haven't budged , bruce should be in shortly to tell us about trends  :(

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? Too early to ask for history. What I'm saying is, in Morrison we have a guy who is a proven achiever even if you don't agree with the policy. He gets done what he sets out to do. Whereas Hockey was a mistake from before the start. Corman is a very competent behind the scenes person. Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands.

Proven achiever? Failed ad man, came up with the loser of a campaign “Where the bloody hell are you?”

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

What a great team!!!! It's what you find underneath the bottom of the barrel.

yeah shortarses and the cfmeu gangsters.

I prefer not to look under the barrel

its always cockroaches and lice.the kind shortarse mixes with.

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 2:37pm: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? Too early to ask for history. What I'm saying is, in Morrison we have a guy who is a proven achiever even if you don't agree with the policy. He gets done what he sets out to do. Whereas Hockey was a mistake from before the start. Corman is a very competent behind the scenes person. Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands. Proven achiever? Failed ad man, came up with the loser of a campaign “Where the bloody hell are you?”

well we know krudd and Co FAILED>.. why are you still pointing it out??????

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:

Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html Cormann is just an idiot.

;D But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now?  ;D ;D

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg

Neferti wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:

you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now

actually, It wasn't Monk who claimed Swan was the worlds best treasurer, it was Euromoney ....

he judgement was made by the distinguished magazine Euromoney, the same publication which gave the accolade to Paul Keating in 1984.

http://www.news.com.au/national/wayne-swan-is-euromoneys-finance-minister-of-the-year/story-e6frfkvr-1226142199651


now apart from the libs, who else has claimed Costello was worlds best?  :D :D :D :D

Neferti wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 2:01pm: Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html Cormann is just an idiot. ;D But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now?  ;D ;D http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg

I think you will find its mostly Swan who thinks that nerf... ;D ;D ;D

what a front bench full of MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs.. they had to widen the door frames to let the heads go through..

http://www.news.com.au/national/wayne-swan-is-euromoneys-finance-minister-of-the-year/story-e6frfkvr-1226142199651

distinguished hilarious.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

there are much more distinguished titles that one can be awarded, aren't there Cods?

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Johnsmith wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

there are much more distinguished titles that one can be awarded, aren't there Cods?

yeah we have a few in the cwa club....

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

As I have already said, look forward to a solid 10 years of Turnbull.

After you said the Libs would never do what Labor did and would never reward treachery and you would never vote for a Turnbull government as he's just a Labor politician in disguise, etc, etc, etc.

It is a jolly world, no?

if you keep putting selfies up people will start believing in them ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 4:37pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 12:45pm: As I have already said, look forward to a solid 10 years of Turnbull. After you said the Libs would never do what Labor did and would never reward treachery and you would never vote for a Turnbull government as he's just a Labor politician in disguise, etc, etc, etc. It is a jolly world, no?

hear hear... sometimes we do agree dear.

cods wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:09pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 3:03pm: bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 2:37pm: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? Too early to ask for history. What I'm saying is, in Morrison we have a guy who is a proven achiever even if you don't agree with the policy. He gets done what he sets out to do. Whereas Hockey was a mistake from before the start. Corman is a very competent behind the scenes person. Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands. Proven achiever? Failed ad man, came up with the loser of a campaign “Where the bloody hell are you?” well we know krudd and Co FAILED>.. why are you still pointing it out??????

Only tiny closed minds like yours think so.

Those of us who can think and research for themselves KNOW otherwise.

cods wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 4:37pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 3:23pm: there are much more distinguished titles that one can be awarded, aren't there Cods? yeah we have a few in the cwa club....

it's not called crazy women's association for nothing

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-?

This is not the time of Rudd.  Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy.

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands.

They should grow the debt very well together with Mal looking over their shoulders.

I don't think I ever said any of those things Karnak.
Can you post the quotes?

Neferti wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 2:01pm: Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html Cormann is just an idiot. ;D But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now?  ;D ;D http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg

Got us through the GFC practically unscathed, one of a handful of advanced economies to do so. Unemployment reached over 10% in the US, 5.8% at its highest here.

Implementation of the Carbon Price was smooth, making part of the compensation a tripling of the tax free threshold was genius according to Forbes business magazine.

The two bank guarantees saved the banks, we had no runs, no bank failures, the loan of the commonwealth credit status—the 9As we got for the first time ever—made the govt $16Bn and helped the banks raise funds, rollover lines of credit etc at a time it was hard to find funds to borrow.

Spent and taxed less as a % GDP than Howard/Costello and abbott/hokey. Did this by getting rid of the Baby Bonus and means testing the PHI rebate.

That do to be going on with? Unlike Hokey Swan got all six of his Budgets through, including three as part of minority govt.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 2:37pm: Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands. They should grow the debt very well together with Mal looking over their shoulders.

Yeah - but the top end should be comfortable and then the trickle-down can begin in earnest... thank goodness the adults are in charge now...

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? This is not the time of Rudd.  Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy.

There is Longy with the same bullcrap!

It was the Panel of Experts who recommended FTTH. Good decision too, the klutzes who have been trying to run things for the last two years have made a mess, including kluging up the NBN and running its cost up to $56Bn and counting. Rolling out copper!

What a great team

yeah ... morriscum had to bribe turncoat for the job .... or was it the other way around  :D :D :D :D :D

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? This is not the time of Rudd.  Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy.

Really....How is Abbott's PPL scheme going....You know the policy that was vital for working mothers....Not only was it scrapped the Coalition have tried to cut the existing scheme even further calling it double dipping and a rort???

:-? :-? :-?

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Morrison & Corman.

http://www.vancouversun.com/cms/binary/8031877.jpg

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:21pm: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? This is not the time of Rudd.  Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy. Really....How is Abbott's PPL scheme going....You know the policy that was vital for working mothers....Not only was it scrapped the Coalition have tried to cut the existing scheme even further calling it double dipping and a rort??? :-? :-? :-?

Indeed, Mr Perth.  That was a critical moment in the ultimate demise of Abbott and Hockey, I reckon.  They made it out to be such a big deal, and then walked away from it as though no-one would notice.....and fact is, Shorten and the ALP seem not to have noticed.

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:32pm:

Neferti wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 3:12pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 2:01pm: Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html Cormann is just an idiot. ;D But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now?  ;D ;D http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg Got us through the GFC practically unscathed, one of a handful of advanced economies to do so. Unemployment reached over 10% in the US, 5.8% at its highest here. Implementation of the Carbon Price was smooth, making part of the compensation a tripling of the tax free threshold was genius according to Forbes business magazine. The two bank guarantees saved the banks, we had no runs, no bank failures, the loan of the commonwealth credit status—the 9As we got for the first time ever—made the govt $16Bn and helped the banks raise funds, rollover lines of credit etc at a time it was hard to find funds to borrow. Spent and taxed less as a % GDP than Howard/Costello and abbott/hokey. Did this by getting rid of the Baby Bonus and means testing the PHI rebate. That do to be going on with? Unlike Hokey Swan got all six of his Budgets through, including three as part of minority govt.

Where do you think all the money to do that came from?  FROM THE ZERO DEBT FROM HOWARD.

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 6:21pm: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? This is not the time of Rudd.  Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy. Really....How is Abbott's PPL scheme going....You know the policy that was vital for working mothers....Not only was it scrapped the Coalition have tried to cut the existing scheme even further calling it double dipping and a rort??? :-? :-? :-?

it WAS double-dipping. The public service has a maternity scheme as does the federal government. There should never be both since the money comes from the same source.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:32pm: Neferti wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 3:12pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 2:01pm: Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html Cormann is just an idiot. ;D But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now?  ;D ;D http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg Got us through the GFC practically unscathed, one of a handful of advanced economies to do so. Unemployment reached over 10% in the US, 5.8% at its highest here. Implementation of the Carbon Price was smooth, making part of the compensation a tripling of the tax free threshold was genius according to Forbes business magazine. The two bank guarantees saved the banks, we had no runs, no bank failures, the loan of the commonwealth credit status—the 9As we got for the first time ever—made the govt $16Bn and helped the banks raise funds, rollover lines of credit etc at a time it was hard to find funds to borrow. Spent and taxed less as a % GDP than Howard/Costello and abbott/hokey. Did this by getting rid of the Baby Bonus and means testing the PHI rebate. That do to be going on with? Unlike Hokey Swan got all six of his Budgets through, including three as part of minority govt. Where do you think all the money to do that came from?  FROM THE ZERO DEBT FROM HOWARD.

Howard and Costello left a huge structural Budget deficit, using temporarary boom revenue to spend and give tax cuts. Came the GFC that structural deficit became a cash one.

Not only that: $350Bn boom revenue WASTED! No new road or hospital or university to show for it! All WASTED on tax cuts and idiotic spending like the Baby Bonus. Not since Swan has there been a Treasurer to cut the built–in Howardista spending out the Budget! Just the super tax excemption cost the Budget $40Bn this year and climbing rapidly.

Howard left a surplus, #1 Liberal fairy tale!

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 8:41am: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 8:32pm: Neferti wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 3:12pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 2:01pm: Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html Cormann is just an idiot. ;D But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now?  ;D ;D http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg Got us through the GFC practically unscathed, one of a handful of advanced economies to do so. Unemployment reached over 10% in the US, 5.8% at its highest here. Implementation of the Carbon Price was smooth, making part of the compensation a tripling of the tax free threshold was genius according to Forbes business magazine. The two bank guarantees saved the banks, we had no runs, no bank failures, the loan of the commonwealth credit status—the 9As we got for the first time ever—made the govt $16Bn and helped the banks raise funds, rollover lines of credit etc at a time it was hard to find funds to borrow. Spent and taxed less as a % GDP than Howard/Costello and abbott/hokey. Did this by getting rid of the Baby Bonus and means testing the PHI rebate. That do to be going on with? Unlike Hokey Swan got all six of his Budgets through, including three as part of minority govt. Where do you think all the money to do that came from?  FROM THE ZERO DEBT FROM HOWARD. Howard and Costello left a huge structural Budget deficit, using temporarary boom revenue to spend and give tax cuts. Came the GFC that structural deficit became a cash one. Not only that: $350Bn boom revenue WASTED! No new road or hospital or university to show for it! All WASTED on tax cuts and idiotic spending like the Baby Bonus. Not since Swan has there been a Treasurer to cut the built–in Howardista spending out the Budget! Just the super tax excemption cost the Budget $40Bn this year and climbing rapidly. Howard left a surplus, #1 Liberal fairy tale!

Not only did the Libs leave the budget in surplus but not credible non-tinfoil-hat wearer disputes it since it is a part of the official treasury record.

And the structural Budget deficit is just the same story. Even if Howard had left more than negligible debt, as you can see from the abbott/hokey borrowing spree and profligate spending we could have raised the money anyway.

Howard was one of our worst–ever PMs!

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

And the structural Budget deficit is just the same story. Even if Howard had left more than negligible debt, as you can see from the abbott/hokey borrowing spree and profligate spending we could have raised the money anyway. Howard was one of our worst–ever PMs!

Then sux-to-be-you because Howard is the most popular EVER PM.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6th, 2015 at 1:10pm: I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!! :-? :-? :-? This is not the time of Rudd.  Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy.

Good financial management requires time and analysis

For some 2 years is just not enough ?

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 11:08am:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526

Rudd v Hawke v Keating v Gillard v Howard

I wonder who all the Liberal supporters voted for and why the poll result is meaningless ?

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 11:08am:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526

I created the URL link for you.

What a great team!!!!

Even the majority of conservative supporters are embarrassed by these guys.

Dnarever wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 11:13am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 11:08am: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526 Rudd v Hawke v Keating v Gillard v Howard I wonder who all the Liberal supporters voted for and why the poll result is meaningless ?

I love how you declare any result you don't like as 'meaningless'. It discredits you more than you realise. A brighter person would simply accept that Howard is massively popular and move on. 20 years ago the most popular was Bob Hawke. Get over the fact that Howard topped him.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 11:08am:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526

John Howard was judged by 35 per cent of you as the best PM

from YOUR link


so 65% didn't rate him as the best?

It seems pretty clear cut to me, he definitely wasn't the best PM.

there is little doubt that John Howard was our last great prime minister.
Tragic that he was not the steady hand at the wheel during the GFC.

If he had stayed in power we would have

an ETS
no manus island or assylum seeker debacle
probably no deficit as John would have been able to sell a rise in the GST to the public.

we would be infinitely better off.

Instead the mayhem and havoc of those without the skills to lead.  and no messiah on the horizon (though Scott may grow into the role)

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 11:08am: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526 John Howard was judged by 35 per cent of you as the best PM from YOUR link so 65% didn't rate him as the best? It seems pretty clear cut to me, he definitely wasn't the best PM.

Wow, your education was clearly highly deficient if you don't understand the difference in the meanings of 'best' and 'majority'.  No wonder you oppose private education when you look at how bad yours was.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 2:18pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:13pm: mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 11:08am: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526 John Howard was judged by 35 per cent of you as the best PM from YOUR link so 65% didn't rate him as the best? It seems pretty clear cut to me, he definitely wasn't the best PM. Wow, your education was clearly highly deficient if you don't understand the difference in the meanings of 'best' and 'majority'.  No wonder you oppose private education when you look at how bad yours was.

Wow, that's the best you've got?  ;D ;D ;D
Given that the whole concept of 'best PM' is rather subjective, then yes, the majority makes the determination.

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 2:24pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:18pm: Johnsmith wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:13pm: mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 11:08am: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526 John Howard was judged by 35 per cent of you as the best PM from YOUR link so 65% didn't rate him as the best? It seems pretty clear cut to me, he definitely wasn't the best PM. Wow, your education was clearly highly deficient if you don't understand the difference in the meanings of 'best' and 'majority'.  No wonder you oppose private education when you look at how bad yours was. Wow, that's the best you've got?  ;D ;D ;D Given that the whole concept of 'best PM' is rather subjective, then yes, the majority makes the determination.

So you choose ignorance instead of intelligence. Not unsurprising given your deficient education, but still disappointing (for you).

I can only wonder how you decide which is the most popular football team out of 18 or who is the richest man in the world since in neither case does 'majority' answer the question.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 2:18pm:

there is little doubt that John Howard was our last great prime minister. Tragic that he was not the steady hand at the wheel during the GFC. If he had stayed in power we would have an ETS no manus island or assylum seeker debacle probably no deficit as John would have been able to sell a rise in the GST to the public. we would be infinitely better off. Instead the mayhem and havoc of those without the skills to lead.  and no messiah on the horizon (though Scott may grow into the role)

Howard/Costello a steady hand at the wheel? $1Trn net debt, at least one bank fallen over, unemployment over 10% etc. I worked that out once, applying what the various numpties have done before or said at the time. Maybe they could fan a speculative boom by feeding it huge amounts of tax money but could they manage a shock like the GFC? Doubt it, just look at Mr Trifecta himself, Treasurer to Fraser in the last years of the first oil shock. Clearly, it would have been a disaster to have Howard & Costello at the helm in 2008! The rest of the fantasy is just as wrong.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:24pm: mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:18pm: Johnsmith wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:13pm: mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 11:08am: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526 John Howard was judged by 35 per cent of you as the best PM from YOUR link so 65% didn't rate him as the best? It seems pretty clear cut to me, he definitely wasn't the best PM. Wow, your education was clearly highly deficient if you don't understand the difference in the meanings of 'best' and 'majority'.  No wonder you oppose private education when you look at how bad yours was. Wow, that's the best you've got?  ;D ;D ;D Given that the whole concept of 'best PM' is rather subjective, then yes, the majority makes the determination. So you choose ignorance instead of intelligence. Not unsurprising given your deficient education, but still disappointing (for you). I can only wonder how you decide which is the most popular football team out of 18 or who is the richest man in the world since in neither case does 'majority' answer the question.

the most popular football team is not subjective, it's simple mathematics, count the fans
the richest man is not subjective, again, simple mathematics, count the money

the best PM is subjective and based on ones OPINION ... the majority of people do not agree with your opinion on the best PM.

you didn't say he was the most popular PM, you didn't say he was the richest PM .... you said he was the best

now stop proving your stupidity with every single post. Try to get at least one right.

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 2:24pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:18pm: Johnsmith wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:13pm: mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 11:08am: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526 John Howard was judged by 35 per cent of you as the best PM from YOUR link so 65% didn't rate him as the best? It seems pretty clear cut to me, he definitely wasn't the best PM. Wow, your education was clearly highly deficient if you don't understand the difference in the meanings of 'best' and 'majority'.  No wonder you oppose private education when you look at how bad yours was. Wow, that's the best you've got?  ;D ;D ;D Given that the whole concept of 'best PM' is rather subjective, then yes, the majority makes the determination.

Most of those voting for Howard were probably voting for the happy days before the GFC. Yet Howard’s actions as PM are the cause of much of our Budgetary and economic woes now: the profligate spending built into the Budget, super tax exemption costing $40Bn this year, $50Bn next and the high indebtedness and consequent lack of confidence of the household sector. A little clown is Howard.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 10:36am: And the structural Budget deficit is just the same story. Even if Howard had left more than negligible debt, as you can see from the abbott/hokey borrowing spree and profligate spending we could have raised the money anyway. Howard was one of our worst–ever PMs! Then sux-to-be-you because Howard is the most popular EVER PM.

Interesting to look at the next rankings:

1. John Howard

2. Bob Hawke

3. Gough Whitlam

4. Kevin Rudd and Paul Keating (tied)

6. Julia Gillard

Just one Liberal there.

I said worst, not most popular. And a boom will be remembered fondly in comparison to what came afterwards.

Nobody voted for that paragon of rightard values, Billy Big Ears?

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

I said worst, not most popular.

Yes, most popular is meaningless.

Who's the most popular singer in the world today - Taylor Swift?

Now, I wouldn't call her music 'the best' by any stretch of the imagination.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 11:44am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 11:13am: mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 11:08am: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526 Rudd v Hawke v Keating v Gillard v Howard I wonder who all the Liberal supporters voted for and why the poll result is meaningless ? I love how you declare any result you don't like as 'meaningless'. It discredits you more than you realise. A brighter person would simply accept that Howard is massively popular and move on. 20 years ago the most popular was Bob Hawke. Get over the fact that Howard topped him.

A honest assessment would see agreement that if their is only one liberal he will get the Liberal vote where 4 Labor PM's have to split the Labor vote 4 ways.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:19pm: I said worst, not most popular. Yes, most popular is meaningless. Who's the most popular singer in the world today - Taylor Swift? Now, I wouldn't call her music 'the best' by any stretch of the imagination.

I like this one though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiXmnGWw2EU

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 10:45am: Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 10:36am: And the structural Budget deficit is just the same story. Even if Howard had left more than negligible debt, as you can see from the abbott/hokey borrowing spree and profligate spending we could have raised the money anyway. Howard was one of our worst–ever PMs! Then sux-to-be-you because Howard is the most popular EVER PM. Interesting to look at the next rankings: 1. John Howard 2. Bob Hawke 3. Gough Whitlam 4. Kevin Rudd and Paul Keating (tied) 6. Julia Gillard Just one Liberal there.

The Milky Bar Kid and Juliar ?????

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

where do you dig this shyte up ?

“The Milky Bar Kid and Juliar ????? ”

Who was it said only the left had nicknames for politicians?

And history will forget Howard and Gillard’s star will shine ever brighter.

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 2:18pm: there is little doubt that John Howard was our last great prime minister. Tragic that he was not the steady hand at the wheel during the GFC. If he had stayed in power we would have an ETS no manus island or assylum seeker debacle probably no deficit as John would have been able to sell a rise in the GST to the public. we would be infinitely better off. Instead the mayhem and havoc of those without the skills to lead.  and no messiah on the horizon (though Scott may grow into the role) Howard/Costello a steady hand at the wheel? $1Trn net debt, at least one bank fallen over, unemployment over 10% etc. I worked that out once, applying what the various numpties have done before or said at the time. Maybe they could fan a speculative boom by feeding it huge amounts of tax money but could they manage a shock like the GFC? Doubt it, just look at Mr Trifecta himself, Treasurer to Fraser in the last years of the first oil shock. Clearly, it would have been a disaster to have Howard & Costello at the helm in 2008! The rest of the fantasy is just as wrong.

and comments like that is why even people on your side of politics think you are a fool.

I am happy to reconstruct my reasoning in detail but you would run a mile like you did with MTM costings—about which I am more right than you.

I will leave you with the words of Malodorous when he was LOTO in 2008 or so:

“A deposit guarantee of $25K will be enough.” Thankfully Rudd & Swan didn’t listen to the idiot.

If a $25K guarantee had been implemented then companies, people with savings, rich people etc etc would have been down the bank quicksmart withdrawing balances to deposit in other accounts and other banks or keep as cash. In the uncertainty of the times you think all those people withdrawing wads of money couldn’t start a run? Be all to easy then. Lehman Bros had fallen, Royal Bank of Scotland and so on. Crisis was in the air.

The ANZ in particular, the smallest of the Big Four, would have fallen if there had been a run, WestPac not that far from it.

All this would have depressed confidence and therefor spending.

If a bank had fallen the Commonwealth would have to step in and quickly too. $Bns of liabilities.