Even Australia's employees are rebelling against orders to abuse the rights of refugees: "... a call came through from an immigration staffer on Christmas Island with words to the effect of: “I have done what I have been told until now but this is too much, I cannot do this.”

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/10/the-shame-of-australias-offshore-war-on-women


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It came unexpectedly, this war on women. In 2012 we began to hear of unaccompanied women arriving on boats. This was previously the mode of transport for men, boys and families only. It seemed that women and girls in danger were waking to the possibilities of flight. Somali refugee raped on Nauru likely to be brought to Australia for abortion They arrived on Christmas Island, mainly from Somalia and Iran: women and girls who had never left their villages until al-Shabaab massacred their families, women avoiding forced marriages, physical and sexual violence in places where police or government wouldn’t intervene. Bravely they set out across the world in search of protection, often aided by mothers’ or sisters’ gold and jewellery, pooled to help them escape. In some cases fathers too had sent their daughters away from the demands of mullahs and the threats of kidnappers. They all came from countries where the oppression of women is rife. As the boats poured on to Christmas Island during 2013, temporary camps were set up with inadequate toilets and shelter. At first the war against women was waged in small ways: diminishing the women to the status of mendicants begging for rationed clothing, one pair of knickers each and sanitary items handed out piece by piece. These conditions were a warning of what was to come. Two days before the federal election, a call came through from an immigration staffer on Christmas Island with words to the effect of: “I have done what I have been told until now but this is too much, I cannot do this.” She explained that they were told to separate the 50 pregnant women in the camp from their children and families. The women would be flown to Darwin where they would stay for the duration of their pregnancies. For some, this would be almost a full term. A call to the then-minister’s office saw a reversal of this decision but the war wasn’t called off. While controversy raged about sending unaccompanied teenagers to Nauru, nothing was said about the transfer of approximately 80 unaccompanied women and girls to Nauru. Few knew about their existence at this time because “on water matters” extended secrecy to land, too. The women languished without interviews or information about their future for months, until they could stand it no longer. They painted their sheets and hung these as banners on the fence, stood in silence or chanted their distress, day after day. Conditions in the camps placed women at risk both day and night. After dark, male security guards roamed; by day the showers and toilets were regulated by guards sitting a metre from the flimsy curtain which was their only privacy. As we know from consecutive inquiries, and now disclosures from women who were transferred to Australia, some were raped and most had to contend with daily sexual assaults. As another woman reminded me: you can’t lock a tent. “When I sit at the computer the guard comes and touches my breasts, if I speak, he closes computer.” As another woman reminded me: you can’t lock a tent. The contractors did nothing, although they saw and heard what was happening, because of the need to keep the Nauru community onside. Eventually the women’s claims were processed and they were released. Outside in the Nauru community the situation for women grew worse. They were allocated housing by Nauru and Australian governments. Then Connect – a consortium of the Multicultural Development Association (MDA) in Queensland and Adult Multicultural Education Services (Ames) in Victoria – was contracted to provide caseworkers to oversee any difficulties. The young single women were placed in isolated housing without security. Late at night drunken locals knock down their doors with flimsy locks and invade their rooms. The women barricade themselves in the bathrooms and ring Connect for help: “I miscall her – I had no credit. She rang and said that she will ring me tomorrow. It was 3am. No help.” There is an 18-seater minibus to take people around the island but there are now 400 refugees in the community. The girls tell me that the Nauruan driver will not pick them up. This leaves them to walk home in the heat with shopping in one hand and in the other a big stick, to ward off the wild dogs who attack. They are easy pickings for local men who bar the road, grab the women and drag them off into the bush. Some women make police statements about the attacks. Others keep quiet, fearing reprisal in a place where as Geoffrey Eames QC reported in the Senate Inquiry this year, “No Nauruan has been investigated or charged for an asault against a non-Nauruan”. The minister for immigration, Peter Dutton, and his shadow, Richard Marles, show little concern for the lack of protection and safety for refugee women condemned by Australian policy to live in Nauru. Australia's treatment of asylum seekers was bound to lead to something like Border Force So it is with the latest case: a Somali woman who was raped and who will likely be brought to Australia to have her pregnancy terminated....

There must be a limited number of people that are prepared to treat other people so cruelly.

We'll have a whistleblower or two soon, then the proverbial will hit the fan.

It certainly is becoming an embarrassment!

Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this.

They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country!

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 2:05pm:

It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country!

They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 1:20pm:

There must be a limited number of people that are prepared to treat other people so cruelly. We'll have a whistleblower or two soon, then the proverbial will hit the fan.

... and the roof will fall in on the whistleblower...

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 3:47pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 2:05pm: It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country! They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either.

The Philippines have their own problems - poverty, the status of women, crime, religious conflicts.. you name it.

I wonder of the Guardian sends journalists to camps in say.. Turkey.. on the Syrian border...what about Sierra Leone.. Lebanon. the Sudan... funny how we only see anything on Australia...and only since the Libs won power...  funny that.. >:( >:(

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:47pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 2:05pm: It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country! They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either. The Philippines have their own problems - poverty, the status of women, crime, religious conflicts.. you name it.

what about krudds PNG...deal....we are probably still paying for that doozy. >:( >:( >:(.. sending all those single men to a country where rape is the norm.,...nice one kevin... >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 4:01pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:58pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:47pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 2:05pm: It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country! They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either. The Philippines have their own problems - poverty, the status of women, crime, religious conflicts.. you name it. what about krudds PNG...deal....we are probably still paying for that doozy. >:( >:( >:(.. sending all those single men to a country where rape is the norm.,...nice one kevin... >:( >:( >:(

Yes, Labor started it, but that's no excuse to keep it running, especially considering the sub human conditions that the asylum seekers are living in.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 4:22pm:

cods wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:01pm: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:58pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:47pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 2:05pm: It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country! They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either. The Philippines have their own problems - poverty, the status of women, crime, religious conflicts.. you name it. what about krudds PNG...deal....we are probably still paying for that doozy. >:( >:( >:(.. sending all those single men to a country where rape is the norm.,...nice one kevin... >:( >:( >:( Yes, Labor started it, but that's no excuse to keep it running, especially considering the sub human conditions that the asylum seekers are living in.

Exactly right. The buck stops with whoever is in power now.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:47pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 2:05pm: It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country! They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either. The Philippines have their own problems - poverty, the status of women, crime, religious conflicts.. you name it.

Yes including radical muslim extremists in the southern parts around Mindanao.

I'm sure they don't want to import any more either.

But the again if the price is right ..... they can take the money ....

import them

& if they cause trouble

do what they do ::)

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Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 4:22pm:

cods wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:01pm: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:58pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:47pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 2:05pm: It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country! They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either. The Philippines have their own problems - poverty, the status of women, crime, religious conflicts.. you name it. what about krudds PNG...deal....we are probably still paying for that doozy. >:( >:( >:(.. sending all those single men to a country where rape is the norm.,...nice one kevin... >:( >:( >:( Yes, Labor started it, but that's no excuse to keep it running, especially considering the sub human conditions that the asylum seekers are living in.

Why don't you become a bit more vocal about the

human rights abuse/genocide of the thousands of West Papuans

at the hands of Indonesia over the past 53 years?

Too busy batting the innings for illegal economic migrants

who have put themselves in the position they are in   ::)

Gnads wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:22pm: cods wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:01pm: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:58pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:47pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 2:05pm: It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country! They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either. The Philippines have their own problems - poverty, the status of women, crime, religious conflicts.. you name it. what about krudds PNG...deal....we are probably still paying for that doozy. >:( >:( >:(.. sending all those single men to a country where rape is the norm.,...nice one kevin... >:( >:( >:( Yes, Labor started it, but that's no excuse to keep it running, especially considering the sub human conditions that the asylum seekers are living in. Why don't you become a bit more vocal about the human rights abuse/genocide of the thousands of West Papuans at the hands of Indonesia over the past 53 years? Too busy batting the innings for illegal economic migrants who have put themselves in the position they are in   ::)

Why doesn't Gnads do something positive about this cause instead of blithering, blathering and blubbering above a pool of urine.

Gnads wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:22pm: cods wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:01pm: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:58pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:47pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 2:05pm: It certainly is becoming an embarrassment! Regardless of stopping the boats, a decent human being cant stand by and see people treated like this. They must find a solution if not Australia then some other country! They tried Cambodia, that turned out expensive, now Julie Bishop is trying to con the Philippines, they won't be cheap either. The Philippines have their own problems - poverty, the status of women, crime, religious conflicts.. you name it. what about krudds PNG...deal....we are probably still paying for that doozy. >:( >:( >:(.. sending all those single men to a country where rape is the norm.,...nice one kevin... >:( >:( >:( Yes, Labor started it, but that's no excuse to keep it running, especially considering the sub human conditions that the asylum seekers are living in. Why don't you become a bit more vocal about the human rights abuse/genocide of the thousands of West Papuans at the hands of Indonesia over the past 53 years? Too busy batting the innings for illegal economic migrants who have put themselves in the position they are in   ::)

And if i tell you you that i've long campaigned for against the genocide of West Papuans do i get to have an opinion on refugees?

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

And if i tell you you that i've long campaigned for against the genocide of West Papuans do i get to have an opinion on refugees?

If you have, good on ya. They're the descendants of the fuzzy-wuzzy angels from back in WWII, right?

And Australia is NOT running a 'war on women'....except in the minds of idiots like you.

MumboJumbo wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:54pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:29pm: And if i tell you you that i've long campaigned for against the genocide of West Papuans do i get to have an opinion on refugees? If you have, good on ya. They're the descendants of the fuzzy-wuzzy angels from back in WWII, right?

They are, and more importantly they are people deserving of fair treatment and respect.

What is happening there is a major human rights violation.

Australia has blood on it's hands over their current predicament.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:56pm:

And Australia is NOT running a 'war on women'....except in the minds of idiots like you.

Ok the vernacular may be dramatic ... but did yo read the OP?

I'm certain these women feel like they are the victims of war.

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:21am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:56pm: And Australia is NOT running a 'war on women'....except in the minds of idiots like you. Ok the vernacular may be dramatic ... but did yo read the OP? I'm certain these women feel like they are the victims of war.

Yes, I did read the OP..however, these women could 'not be victims' by simply going home, or by not getting on an Asylum seeker boat.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:21am: gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:56pm: And Australia is NOT running a 'war on women'....except in the minds of idiots like you. Ok the vernacular may be dramatic ... but did yo read the OP? I'm certain these women feel like they are the victims of war. Yes, I did read the OP..however, these women could 'not be victims' by simply going home, or by not getting on an Asylum seeker boat.

They are fleeing persecution. How can they simply 'go home'?

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:32am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:30am: mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:21am: gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:56pm: And Australia is NOT running a 'war on women'....except in the minds of idiots like you. Ok the vernacular may be dramatic ... but did yo read the OP? I'm certain these women feel like they are the victims of war. Yes, I did read the OP..however, these women could 'not be victims' by simply going home, or by not getting on an Asylum seeker boat. They are fleeing persecution. How can they simply 'go home'?

Are they actually 'fleeing persecution' or are they country shoppers???

If it was me, running from situation where I, or my family were in danger...(Iraq, Iran, Syria etc) the very first country I landed in where the secret police, or Taliban (or whatever nasty group wanted to kill me) did NOT have power would really be an acceptable place to be in, until I could either apply for asylum, or earn the money/do the paperwork to go somewhere else..

Sorry, but ANY country where I'm not on the 'hit list' from the secret police  or whoever would be ok,

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:55am:

mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:32am: gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:30am: mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:21am: gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:56pm: And Australia is NOT running a 'war on women'....except in the minds of idiots like you. Ok the vernacular may be dramatic ... but did yo read the OP? I'm certain these women feel like they are the victims of war. Yes, I did read the OP..however, these women could 'not be victims' by simply going home, or by not getting on an Asylum seeker boat. They are fleeing persecution. How can they simply 'go home'? Are they actually 'fleeing persecution' or are they country shoppers??? If it was me, running from situation where I, or my family were in danger...(Iraq, Iran, Syria etc) the very first country I landed in where the secret police, or Taliban (or whatever nasty group wanted to kill me) did NOT have power would really be an acceptable place to be in, until I could either apply for asylum, or earn the money/do the paperwork to go somewhere else.. Sorry, but ANY country where I'm not on the 'hit list' from the secret police  or whoever would be ok,

Do you know where the closest countries to the Middle East that accept asylum seekers is?

Do you know the closest country that is signatory to the UNHCR is?

It is Australia.

As for working for money in the closest landing point ... that's just laughable. These people are not permitted to work. They are lost.

Take a look for yourself.


http://www.unhcr.org/3b73b0d63.html

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 1:00am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:55am: mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:32am: gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:30am: mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:21am: gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:56pm: And Australia is NOT running a 'war on women'....except in the minds of idiots like you. Ok the vernacular may be dramatic ... but did yo read the OP? I'm certain these women feel like they are the victims of war. Yes, I did read the OP..however, these women could 'not be victims' by simply going home, or by not getting on an Asylum seeker boat. They are fleeing persecution. How can they simply 'go home'? Are they actually 'fleeing persecution' or are they country shoppers??? If it was me, running from situation where I, or my family were in danger...(Iraq, Iran, Syria etc) the very first country I landed in where the secret police, or Taliban (or whatever nasty group wanted to kill me) did NOT have power would really be an acceptable place to be in, until I could either apply for asylum, or earn the money/do the paperwork to go somewhere else.. Sorry, but ANY country where I'm not on the 'hit list' from the secret police  or whoever would be ok, Do you know where the closest countries to the Middle East that accept asylum seekers is? Do you know the closest country that is signatory to the UNHCR is? It is Australia. As for working for money in the closest landing point ... that's just laughable. These people are not permitted to work. They are lost.

Someone's geographically challenged...

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:32am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:30am: mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:21am: gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 11:56pm: And Australia is NOT running a 'war on women'....except in the minds of idiots like you. Ok the vernacular may be dramatic ... but did yo read the OP? I'm certain these women feel like they are the victims of war. Yes, I did read the OP..however, these women could 'not be victims' by simply going home, or by not getting on an Asylum seeker boat. They are fleeing persecution. How can they simply 'go home'?

Somalians fleeing persecution?

99.8% of Somalia's population is Muslim.

They're economic migrants who take a big risk getting on boats to enter our country illegally claiming they are refugees seeking asylum.

People defend the dispicable actions of these filthy grubs, unbelievable.