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Message started by Yadda on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm

Title: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Yadda on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



The Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies;

"We moslems refuse and reject any form of terrorist activities"



IMAGE.....


Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed




Quote:
Parramatta shooting: 'We refuse and reject any form of terrorist activities,' Australian Grand Mufti says

2015-Oct-09

Australian Muslim leaders have gathered in Sydney to denounce extremism and express their condolences a week after a Sydney teenager shot dead a police accountant outside NSW Police headquarters in Parramatta.

"The Grand Mufti of Australia, Australian National Imams Council, and community leaders were extremely shocked by the tragic incident that took place," said Muslim leaders in a joint statement to begin the community address.

"We would like to convey our deepest condolences to the families and friends of the deceased," the statement continued.

Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed said he and other leaders rejected all forms of terrorist acts.

"I reiterate that the sanctity of human life is guaranteed in Islam," Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-09/grand-mufti-addresses-community-over-parramatta-shooting/6840250



Beware moslem sophistry !

n.b.
In other places and forums, moslem spokesmen have defined 'terrorism', as any act which resists Allah's will.

And Allah's will is that the influence of Allah's perfect religion, ISLAM and Sharia, should be permitted to spread throughout the world.

Therefore, the moslem can 'legitimately' regard every action by a non-moslem, which is designed to prevent the spread and influence of ISLAM as a terrorist act!



And moslem spokesmen have also stated that only moslems are regarded by ISLAM, as innocent human beings, worthy of ISLAM's/Allah's protection.

Google;
when we say innocent people, we mean muslims


ISLAM's teachings = =    ---------- >


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11




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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.           :P




Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4



Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Yadda on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:07pm



IMAGE.....


UCLA professor Khaled Abou El Fadl says that the permissibility of lying in Islam is a "complete invention."

source....
http://www.meforum.org/blog/2015/10/reagan-taqiyya

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Hey, Malcolm Turnbull, are you going to believe that guy !!!!!!

Duh!!!





Quote:

What Reagan Could Tell Us About Islamic Taqiyya
by Raymond Ibrahim  •  Oct 7, 2015

.....Back in the 1980s, Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, the president of Pakistan, explained to Ronald Reagan how it was no problem for the Pakistanis to sign the Geneva agreements and yet continue supplying weapons to the Afghan jihadis ("freedom fighters") combating the Soviet Union.

Why wasn't it a problem?

According to Zia, "We'll just lie about it. That's what we've been doing for eight years."

He added, "Muslims have the right to lie in a good cause." (Don Oberdorfer, The Turn: From the Cold War to a New Era: The United States and the Soviet Union, 1983-1991, p.280.)

Compare this casual statement from the president of a Muslim nation with the claims of UCLA's Khaled Abou El Fadl, whom the Washington Post's Glenn Kessler quoted at length in an effort to prove Carson wrong about taqiyya.

According to the Muslim professor, "there is no concept that would encourage a Muslim to lie to pursue a goal. That is a complete invention.".....
http://www.meforum.org/blog/2015/10/reagan-taqiyya






QUESTION;
Hey, Malcolm Turnbull, if mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine declares that ISLAMIC law provides a lawful context, for a moslem to kill a disbeliever, and it does!

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260


           ......are you then going to believe the moslem, when he assures you that it is a sin for him [a moslem], to lie to you ?

!!!!!!!

Duh!!!





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Beware of the sophistry, that is used by the moslem,       in all of his communication with those he considers to be the infidel !


Dictionary;
sophistry = = the use of fallacious arguments, especially to deceive.




Every moslem [in the West] preaches peace, except when he doesn't....
....and when he doesn't, then other moslems will claim that he is an extremist, who is misrepresenting ISLAM.



Every moslem [in the West] preaches that ISLAM should only be spread peacefully, except when he doesn't....
....and when he doesn't, then other moslems will claim that he is an extremist, who is misrepresenting ISLAM.



Thankfully, more and more infidels are seeing through the blatant deceit of the leaders of the moslem community resident in the West.




Quote:
Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam

01/05/2007

In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: "Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".

The article advised: "The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy.

There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims.

Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550211/Cleric-preaches-that-violence-is-part-of-Islam.html



Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Redneck on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:08pm
I will be convinced when I see one of them exposing these terrorist.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Yadda on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:25pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:08pm:
I will be convinced when I see one of them exposing these terrorist.



I will be convinced, when i see moslems, en masse, renouncing and denouncing ISLAM.

And i'm not holding my breath.



e.g.
gandalf, considers it offensive, for me to expect him to acknowledge the inherent failings [of logic] of ISLAM, and the inherent evil of ISLAM,        .....and my expectation, for him [consequently] to choose to abandon ISLAM.

But it isn't going to happen.

People like gandalf are not going to abandon ISLAM.

They have become enthralled, by ISLAM.


Dictionary;
enthral = =
1  capture the fascinated attention of.
enslave.



ISLAM is a death trap, for the human psyche, imo.

But, the moslem psyche seems enthralled, by what ISLAM is.




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Quote:

Pakistani cleric: 'We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world.

We would like to do this by preaching.

But if not then we would use force.'


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/12/pakistani-cleric-we-want-islamic-law-for-all-pakistan-and-then-the-world-we-would-like-to-do-this-by.html





Every moslem, is a moslem.


Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.


ISLAM's teachings = =    ---------- >


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4



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"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.






Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by moses on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:02pm
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 11 :: Hadith 626

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to c awl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses


Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by gandalf on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:14pm

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


Actually I agree with you S. This is not a good look at all. The representative of Australian muslims ff_s  ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:33pm

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


Whatever language he used, he said exactly what you've been ordering the Muselman to say for a decade, old dear.

Minus the beard and headscarf comments, of course.

Maybe one day you'll be happy, dear chap.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by double plus good on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:35pm
The Grand Mufti of Australia can't even speak english. What would he know about integration?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:38pm

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


You really are rather illiberal in your attitudes, Soren, you realise that?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:41pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 4:14pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


Actually I agree with you S. This is not a good look at all. The representative of Australian muslims ff_s  ::)



Not just a representative - the Grand Mufti, no less.




2014:
National supermarket chain Woolworths has apologised for “inadvertently” stocking a singlet which says “if you don’t love it, leave” alongside a picture of the Australian flag in two of its stores …

The spokesman said the singlet had already been withdrawn from shelves.



2015:
Labor leader Bill Shorten: “If you really hate Australia, you should go.”

Parramatta Mosque chairman Neil El-Kadomi: “if you don’t like Australia, leave.”

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, as usual taking more words than anybody else to say the same thing: “It’s is not compulsory to live in Australia. If you find Australian values unpalatable, then there’s a big wide world out there.”

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


You really are rather illiberal in your attitudes, Soren, you realise that?   ::) ::)


He's an illibertarian.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


You really are rather illiberal in your attitudes, Soren, you realise that?   ::) ::)



He's not a nobody, Brain, he's the bloody Grand Mufti OF AUSTRALIA.

He's been here 20 years. He is a Phd. He speaks fopr AUSTRALIAN Muslims - but he can't speak for them in their own language.

He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by double plus good on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm
Islam is peace????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The message is getting lost somewhere. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:54pm
Australia’s Grand Mufti vowed four years ago he would master English:

A much more important question, one everyone I speak to in preparing for this interview advises me to ask, concerns his poor command of English. How can he cope with the media, mainstream Australia and the diverse Muslim communities here if he has to do it through an interpreter?

This is something he has been asked a lot, he replies through his interpreter  ( :D) , Nasser Kat, saying he understands the importance of good English. ‘’I promise that, given time, I will solve this problem. I can understand 80 per cent of what is said and can reply, but I don’t feel that if I speak in English I will have the same speed, depth and richness that I speak in Arabic.’’


Four years later, and one week after Curtis Cheng was murdered by an Islamic terrorist, the Grand Mufti offered his speedy response. Through an interpreter. The Mufti, by the way, is a fan of Hamas:
“I am pleased to stand on the land of jihad to learn from its sons and I have the honor to be among the people of Gaza where the weakness always becomes strength, the few becomes many and the humiliation turns into pride,” Sheikh Salem said.

He didn't have to speak English there, luckily.

After 20 years, he can understand 80%.

This is what happens when you give doctorates for memorising the Koran. He has memorised the Koran and so there is no room to remember English.




Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:56pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


You really are rather illiberal in your attitudes, Soren, you realise that?   ::) ::)


He's an illibertarian.


Ah.  That explains everything, Karnal.  I thank you for your cogent explanation.   ;)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


You really are rather illiberal in your attitudes, Soren, you realise that?   ::) ::)



He's not a nobody, Brain, he's the bloody Grand Mufti OF AUSTRALIA.

He's been here 20 years. He is a Phd. He speaks fopr AUSTRALIAN Muslims - but he can't speak for them in their own language.

He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren.  Seems smart thinking on his behalf.  I know many Liberal politicians who would love to have that facility sometimes.  I suspect you'd like it as well?   ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by double plus good on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? :-? :-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 10th, 2015 at 6:40pm

double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? :-? :-? :-? :-?


Soren, will, of course, disabuse you of that notion, I don't doubt.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:40am

double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? :-? :-? :-? :-?



It is a scandal. The position of Grand Mufti OF AUSTRALIA is not some obscure position. The guy is in the news every other week over some Muslim atrocity or plot.
Twenty years in a country in plenty to learn the language.

His inability to communicate in English is emblematic of the position of the community he heads and leads: even the Grand Mufti doesn't speak the language of the country where he nevertheless calls himself by grand titles.

The Governor of SA is a Vietnamese refugee. He speaks English. So does every other political or community leader in Australia who has been here for 20 years - except the Grand Mufti of the Muslims, who still needs an interpreter.

It is a scandal, an outrageous contempt for the country.




Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by double plus good on Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:43am

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:40am:

double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? :-? :-? :-? :-?



It is a scandal. The position of Grand Mufti OF AUSTRALIA is not some obscure position. The guy is in the news every other week over some Muslim atrocity or plot.
Twenty years in a country in plenty to learn the language.

His inability to communicate in English is emblematic of the position of the community he heads and leads: even the Grand Mufti doesn't speak the language of the country where he nevertheless calls himself by grand titles.

The Governor of SA is a Vietnamese refugee. He speaks English. So does every other political or community leader in Australia who has been here for 20 years - except the Grand Mufti of the Muslims, who still needs an interpreter.

It is a scandal, an outrageous contempt for the country.
Yep, it's absolutely disgusting.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.



Were you a Canadian, you would have been among the po-faced harpies decrying a tweet by their Minister Of Multiculturalism praising an 11 year old Iraqi boy who has been in Canada for only a year but speaks ‘perfect, unaccented English’. 

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by moses on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:17am
OH come on he hasn't got time to learn English this is just to go to the toilet, then he has to follow the sunnahs of drinking, eating, sleeping, putting on your clothes, taking off your clothes etc.etc.

sunnah of the toilet

1. Cover your head.

2. Enter with the left foot.

3. Any item (e.g. ring, locket etc.) that has the names of Allah (The

Exalted) or His beloved Messenger (may Allah bless him and grant him

peace) or any verse of the Qur'an, should be removed before entering

the toilet. An Amulet (Ta'weez) can be worn as long as it is covered.

4. It is forbidden (Haram) to face or have the back facing towards

the Qibla whilst relieving oneself.

5. It is best to lower oneself as much as possible before uncovering

the body.

6. Put slight pressure on the left leg it makes it relieving easier.

7. One should be very careful about the splashing of urine (as this

is a grave sin). One should sit to urinate.

8. One should not talk in the toilet without absolute necessity but

if a person outside is calling and does not know then cough thrice to

make them aware. This includes the use of a mobile phone be it for

texting as this is not the place to do such things.

9. When two people talk when the body is uncovered Allah (The

Exalted) is displeased.

10. Hold the container in the right hand whilst cleansing with the

left.

11. The right hand should not be used to cleanse oneself. Unless

there is a problem with the left hand then one can use the right hand.

12. Use the left hand middle three fingers for cleanings.

13. The sister should cleanse themselves with the lower palm of the

left hand and do not separate the legs to wide.

14. Wash in odd numbers i.e. 1, 3, 5 or 7 times.

15. When cleansing yourself, males should hold their penis from the

top with the left hand index finger and the thumb. Gently work your

way down (as if milking an animal) so if drops are left they will come

out.

16. After performing urination, if you feel that another drop of

urine will come, then it is wajib for you to perform 'Istibrao'

meaning after urination to perform some act that would force the urine

left inside, to come out .

17. First wash the front then the back.

18. After cleansing with water you can dry yourself with some tissue.

19. After you have relieved yourself, wash your hands up to the

wrists thrice.

20. Without necessity do not look at your private parts as there is a

chance of the memory becoming weak.

21. Do not sit on the toilet for a long time as there is a chance of

getting piles.

22. Do not play with your clothing or body, nor look here or there,

nor look above, and do not touch your body without necessity.

23. Do not spit or clean your nose in the toilet.

24. Soon as you have cleansed yourself cover yourself as soon as

possible.

25. When leaving the toilet one should step out with the right foot.

Supplication on Leaving
Once outside the toilet read this supplication :

'Ghuf-raa-naka Al-ham-du-Lil-la-hil-ladhi Adh-haba 'An-nil Adhaa

Wa-'Aa-faani'

'O Allah I seek Your pardon. All praises are due to Allah who has

taken away from me discomfort and granted me relief.'

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Karnal on Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:11pm

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.



Were you a Canadian, you would have been among the po-faced harpies decrying a tweet by their Minister Of Multiculturalism praising an 11 year old Iraqi boy who has been in Canada for only a year but speaks ‘perfect, unaccented English’. 


Naturalicht, old boy, if an 11 year old can do it in a year, one day, you can do it too.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by moses on Oct 11th, 2015 at 1:16pm
Does Wa-'Aa-faani' in Reply #22 - Today at 11:17am refer to the female muslim part, or is that what the male muslim wants?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 11th, 2015 at 1:19pm

double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? :-? :-? :-? :-?


Dunno.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ9y1c73-IM

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.


So, the opposite of tolerance is, what again, exactly, Soren?    ::)

The opposite of love, is what again, exactly, Soren?   What about the opposite of suggesting that you're a bigot?   I'm interested to know, Soren, please demonstrate to us where you've made statements which support those opposites, will you?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 11th, 2015 at 5:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.


So, the opposite of tolerance is, what again, exactly, Soren?    ::)

The opposite of love, is what again, exactly, Soren?   What about the opposite of suggesting that you're a bigot?   I'm interested to know, Soren, please demonstrate to us where you've made statements which support those opposites, will you?   ::) ::)



The opposite of bigot is the straight common sense that perceives the scandal that the emperor's - Grand Mufti of Australia, no less - has no clothes - he contemptuous of Australia, its language and customs and so can't speak English after 20 years in the country of which he imagines himself to be the GRAND Mufti.


The opposite of love is you who will pander to every deadbeat as long as it is a hostile deadbeat.




Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 11th, 2015 at 6:45pm

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.


So, the opposite of tolerance is, what again, exactly, Soren?    ::)

The opposite of love, is what again, exactly, Soren?   What about the opposite of suggesting that you're a bigot?   I'm interested to know, Soren, please demonstrate to us where you've made statements which support those opposites, will you?   ::) ::)



The opposite of bigot is the straight common sense that perceives the scandal that the emperor's - Grand Mufti of Australia, no less - has no clothes - he contemptuous of Australia, its language and customs and so can't speak English after 20 years in the country of which he imagines himself to be the GRAND Mufti.


Still missing the 80% of English he can speak, Soren, why?

Still missing that the opposite of Bigot is acceptance and tolerance of differences.  Something you so ably demonstrate that you cannot and will not do.

The Grand Mufti has not shown, as far as I am aware, any contempt for Australia or Australian society, Soren.  He has shown contempt for you though, and good on him.  It shows he's a real Australian, now doesn't it?    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by moses on Oct 12th, 2015 at 11:39am
It's a pretty safe bet the muffti suffers from low I.Q. caused by inbreeding.

After 1400 years of islamic inbreeding he would be his own father, grandfather, uncle, brother, son and cousin all rolled into one.

His mother would be his own sister, grandmother, cousin, aunty, daughter and mother all rolled into one.

His father would be his brother, grandfather, son, cousin and father all rolled into one.

How could he learn English?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Bojack Horseman on Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:03pm

moses wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 11:39am:
It's a pretty safe bet the muffti suffers from low I.Q. caused by inbreeding.

After 1400 years of islamic inbreeding he would be his own father, grandfather, uncle, brother, son and cousin all rolled into one.

His mother would be his own sister, grandmother, cousin, aunty, daughter and mother all rolled into one.

His father would be his brother, grandfather, son, cousin and father all rolled into one.

How could he learn English?


How charming.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 12th, 2015 at 10:35pm

moses wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 11:39am:
It's a pretty safe bet the muffti suffers from low I.Q. caused by inbreeding.

After 1400 years of islamic inbreeding he would be his own father, grandfather, uncle, brother, son and cousin all rolled into one.

His mother would be his own sister, grandmother, cousin, aunty, daughter and mother all rolled into one.

His father would be his brother, grandfather, son, cousin and father all rolled into one.

How could he learn English?


By the usual methods, Moses.  Your Islamophobia is very obvious.    ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by moses on Oct 13th, 2015 at 4:09pm
The muffti spends all his time in the toilet in the correct islamic manner of course.

sunnah of the toilet

Rule fifteen

perform 'Istibrao'


15. When cleansing yourself, males should hold their penis from the top with the left hand index finger and the thumb. Gently work your way down (as if milking an animal) so if drops are left they will come out.


muffti's very clean he loves to perform 'Istibrao' a few times a day.

He's got no time to learn Englishl


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Karnal on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:08pm
Miam miam.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by double plus good on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:12pm
15. When cleansing yourself, males should hold their penis from the top with the left hand index finger and the thumb. Gently work your way down (as if milking an animal) so if drops are left they will come out.

That's the same as pulling yourself. The Grand Masturbater Mufti Of Australia. :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:17pm

double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:35pm:
The Grand Mufti of Australia can't even speak english. What would he know about integration?


I believe he has a book called the qu'ran that explains how to integrate islam into everyone elses colon.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:20pm
Seriously I am amazed this idiot thinks Aussies would remotely listen to him being the grand clown.

The problem with Australia is Aussies don't give two shytes about muslims until they poo on their lawn then they cop it. Too bloody laid back and let them fester.

Lakemba now a dump. Bankstown now a dump both no go zones after hours and good ole Auburn a total shyte hole. Where ever they are you can bet your ass its a criminal violent DUMP.

Cronulla beach, now a lovely place to visit.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by double plus good on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:22pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:20pm:
Seriously I am amazed this idiot thinks Aussies would remotely listen to him being the grand clown.

The problem with Australia is Aussies don't give two shytes about muslims until they poo on their lawn then they cop it. Too bloody laid back to let them fester.

Lakemba now a dump. Bankstown now a dump both no go zones after hours and good ole Auburn a total shyte hole. Where ever they are you can bet your ass its a criminal violent DUMP.

Cronulla beach, now a lovely place to visit.
People are waking up. Opposition will grow.  ;)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:24pm
They need to wake up faster.

I know that but at what expense. How many more lives to muslim maggotry needs to be lost.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by double plus good on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:51pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 13th, 2015 at 9:24pm:
They need to wake up faster.

I know that but at what expense. How many more lives to muslim maggotry needs to be lost.
Muslim terrorism isn't going to stop anytime soon  I'm afraid. There will be many more lives lost. There hasn't been many more now because we have good intelligence and police. When a big one happens people will wake up and then it will get going. Right now they'll arrest aussies before muslims. Traitors run Australia at the moment. That will change.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 13th, 2015 at 10:10pm
Unfortunately that is the case.

They are not content to see anyone else live a happy life.

This we must have tolerance and its never islams fault is only for mind numbingly stupid people to soak up.

Our media is ran by idiots of the highest order also, you can watch al jazeera news to get the real story when mulims laugh at us and our media. At least that is the truth about our media farce in this country.


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 14th, 2015 at 7:26pm
I do so enjoy reading Matty talking to himself.   ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.


So, the opposite of tolerance is, what again, exactly, Soren?    ::)

The opposite of love, is what again, exactly, Soren?   What about the opposite of suggesting that you're a bigot?   I'm interested to know, Soren, please demonstrate to us where you've made statements which support those opposites, will you?   ::) ::)



The opposite of bigot is the straight common sense that perceives the scandal that the emperor's - Grand Mufti of Australia, no less - has no clothes - he contemptuous of Australia, its language and customs and so can't speak English after 20 years in the country of which he imagines himself to be the GRAND Mufti.


Still missing the 80% of English he can speak, Soren, why?

Because he AIN'T speakin' it, ya thick bloody drongo. He ain't speaking da English lingo, fvuckwit.   HE DOESN't SPEAKA DA ENGLISH. Geddit??   No, you are oblivious as a matter of policy. Thick like the Mufti.

He has been in Australia for 2-0 years but he STILL doesn't speak English.  But he IS the Grand frigging Mufti of the Muslims in Australia.

There is the problem with Muslims, in a single snapshot: their own big chief can't be f Vcking fagged to be seen to be fitting in.

The mufti is modelling contempt for the kuffar society of Australia and he knows it, Muslims know it, we all know it. It is a scandal and the contemptuous bastard should be booted out forthwith. 








Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 7:26pm:
I do so enjoy reading Matty talking to himself.   ::)


Is that you Karnal ? ;) ;)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 14th, 2015 at 9:00pm

Soren wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 8:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.


So, the opposite of tolerance is, what again, exactly, Soren?    ::)

The opposite of love, is what again, exactly, Soren?   What about the opposite of suggesting that you're a bigot?   I'm interested to know, Soren, please demonstrate to us where you've made statements which support those opposites, will you?   ::) ::)



The opposite of bigot is the straight common sense that perceives the scandal that the emperor's - Grand Mufti of Australia, no less - has no clothes - he contemptuous of Australia, its language and customs and so can't speak English after 20 years in the country of which he imagines himself to be the GRAND Mufti.


Still missing the 80% of English he can speak, Soren, why?

Because he AIN'T speakin' it, ya thick bloody drongo. He ain't speaking da English lingo, fvuckwit.   HE DOESN't SPEAKA DA ENGLISH. Geddit??   No, you are oblivious as a matter of policy. Thick like the Mufti.

He has been in Australia for 2-0 years but he STILL doesn't speak English.  But he IS the Grand frigging Mufti of the Muslims in Australia.

There is the problem with Muslims, in a single snapshot: their own big chief can't be f Vcking fagged to be seen to be fitting in.

The mufti is modelling contempt for the kuffar society of Australia and he knows it, Muslims know it, we all know it. It is a scandal and the contemptuous bastard should be booted out forthwith. 


Well after all he is a highly intellectual muslim designed only for muslims. Fashioned after mohammed the pedophile king. The day he assimilates will be the day palestinians admit there is no indigenous palestinians at all.

Won't happen, ever.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by issuevoter on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:05pm
The weird thing is that a great many Australians actually want to believe the Mufti, even when he clearly contradicts the Koran. Infidels are fair game in its august pages, and lies and deceit are sanctioned when made to the glory of Allah and his prophet.

You will notice the absence of any reference to the shooter's sense of faith. The Mufti uses the vague reference to terrorist acts and the ABC did not question the use of such euphemisms. The shooter was not a terrorist, he went down there to kill in the name of Allah. He was a religious fanatic, and there are way too many of them in the Muslim faith.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:12pm
Maybe he should learn what Allah Ackbar means when muslims call it out when they senselessly murder innocent people. He is a typical muslim vile idiot period.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
The weird thing is that a great many Australians actually want to believe the Mufti, even when he clearly contradicts the Koran. Infidels are fair game in its august pages, and lies and deceit are sanctioned when made to the glory of Allah and his prophet.


Ah, yes, rather like lying for the greater good is allowed in Christianity and Judaism...   ::)


Quote:
You will notice the absence of any reference to the shooter's sense of faith. The Mufti uses the vague reference to terrorist acts and the ABC did not question the use of such euphemisms. The shooter was not a terrorist, he went down there to kill in the name of Allah. He was a religious fanatic, and there are way too many of them in the Muslim faith.



Yes, there are but is their presence the fault of the Grand Mufti?  He has preached against Terrorism and violence.   What a shame you appear to believe something about Islam that the Grand Mufti obviously doesn't...   ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
The weird thing is that a great many Australians actually want to believe the Mufti, even when he clearly contradicts the Koran. Infidels are fair game in its august pages, and lies and deceit are sanctioned when made to the glory of Allah and his prophet.


Ah, yes, rather like lying for the greater good is allowed in Christianity and Judaism...   ::)


No that is only in islam. You may like to learn about islam before posting about it brain bot.


Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm:

Quote:
You will notice the absence of any reference to the shooter's sense of faith. The Mufti uses the vague reference to terrorist acts and the ABC did not question the use of such euphemisms. The shooter was not a terrorist, he went down there to kill in the name of Allah. He was a religious fanatic, and there are way too many of them in the Muslim faith.



Yes, there are but is their presence the fault of the Grand Mufti?  He has preached against Terrorism and violence.   What a shame you appear to believe something about Islam that the Grand Mufti obviously doesn't...   ::)


If the Grand Muff is muslim and believes the qu'ran then he is a Liar. Which we all know is true of course. What a shame you clearly don't even know what islams fictitious book the quran teaches and muslims actually believe.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:56pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
The weird thing is that a great many Australians actually want to believe the Mufti, even when he clearly contradicts the Koran. Infidels are fair game in its august pages, and lies and deceit are sanctioned when made to the glory of Allah and his prophet.


Ah, yes, rather like lying for the greater good is allowed in Christianity and Judaism...   ::)


No that is only in islam. You may like to learn about islam before posting about it brain bot.


I recommend you learn some history and theology, Matty, before commenting further.   Christians and Jews have long been allowed to lie if their or their loved ones' lives depended on it.


Quote:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm:
[quote]
You will notice the absence of any reference to the shooter's sense of faith. The Mufti uses the vague reference to terrorist acts and the ABC did not question the use of such euphemisms. The shooter was not a terrorist, he went down there to kill in the name of Allah. He was a religious fanatic, and there are way too many of them in the Muslim faith.



Yes, there are but is their presence the fault of the Grand Mufti?  He has preached against Terrorism and violence.   What a shame you appear to believe something about Islam that the Grand Mufti obviously doesn't...   ::)


If the Grand Muff is muslim and believes the qu'ran then he is a Liar. Which we all know is true of course. What a shame you clearly don't even know what islams fictitious book the quran teaches and muslims actually believe.[/quote]

I know a great deal about the Q'ran and what Muslims believe.  Do you, Matty in your depths of Islamophobic trolling?    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:56pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
The weird thing is that a great many Australians actually want to believe the Mufti, even when he clearly contradicts the Koran. Infidels are fair game in its august pages, and lies and deceit are sanctioned when made to the glory of Allah and his prophet.


Ah, yes, rather like lying for the greater good is allowed in Christianity and Judaism...   ::)


No that is only in islam. You may like to learn about islam before posting about it brain bot.


I recommend you learn some history and theology, Matty, before commenting further.   Christians and Jews have long been allowed to lie if their or their loved ones' lives depended on it.


Quote:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm:
[quote]
You will notice the absence of any reference to the shooter's sense of faith. The Mufti uses the vague reference to terrorist acts and the ABC did not question the use of such euphemisms. The shooter was not a terrorist, he went down there to kill in the name of Allah. He was a religious fanatic, and there are way too many of them in the Muslim faith.



Yes, there are but is their presence the fault of the Grand Mufti?  He has preached against Terrorism and violence.   What a shame you appear to believe something about Islam that the Grand Mufti obviously doesn't...   ::)


If the Grand Muff is muslim and believes the qu'ran then he is a Liar. Which we all know is true of course. What a shame you clearly don't even know what islams fictitious book the quran teaches and muslims actually believe.


I know a great deal about the Q'ran and what Muslims believe.  Do you, Matty in your depths of Islamophobic trolling?    ::) ::)[/quote]

Both incorrect again. Learn about what you post before posting you look silly. You look even sillier trying to copy karnal seeing matty everywhere too. Unless you are karnal. ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by issuevoter on Oct 15th, 2015 at 6:40am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
The weird thing is that a great many Australians actually want to believe the Mufti, even when he clearly contradicts the Koran. Infidels are fair game in its august pages, and lies and deceit are sanctioned when made to the glory of Allah and his prophet.


Ah, yes, rather like lying for the greater good is allowed in Christianity and Judaism...   ::)


Quote:
You will notice the absence of any reference to the shooter's sense of faith. The Mufti uses the vague reference to terrorist acts and the ABC did not question the use of such euphemisms. The shooter was not a terrorist, he went down there to kill in the name of Allah. He was a religious fanatic, and there are way too many of them in the Muslim faith.



Yes, there are but is their presence the fault of the Grand Mufti?  He has preached against Terrorism and violence.   What a shame you appear to believe something about Islam that the Grand Mufti obviously doesn't...   ::)


You are one of the people I noted in line one. Your relativism would have Christians and Jews as big a threat to social cohesion as Muslims. You are able to completely ignore the evidence to maintain your hopeful sense of fairness; something not shared by the Mufti or the scripture he and Farad follow.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by bogarde73 on Oct 15th, 2015 at 1:02pm
Grand Scumbag of the Unwelcome would be more appropriate.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Karnal on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by double plus good on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
we do.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Karnal on Oct 15th, 2015 at 8:37pm

double plus good wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
we do.


That's the spirit, Homo. You're really very brave.

We need more like you. Anyone else?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 15th, 2015 at 9:50pm
How do you say in Arabic, 'I am a non English speaking, irrelevant and exceedingly small mufti of Australia who couldn't be fagged to learn the kufffar lingo in 20+ years coz let's face it, I speak Arabic and that's as good as it gets"?

Allahu akhbar, I fear.

:o


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 15th, 2015 at 10:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
I know a great deal about the Q'ran and what Muslims believe.    ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


You pompous, pretentious, preening git, you.


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 15th, 2015 at 10:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:46pm:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
The weird thing is that a great many Australians actually want to believe the Mufti, even when he clearly contradicts the Koran. Infidels are fair game in its august pages, and lies and deceit are sanctioned when made to the glory of Allah and his prophet.


Ah, yes, rather like lying for the greater good is allowed in Christianity and Judaism...   ::)



Oh?? Taqiyya is  now a Christian and Jewish concept?? Explain, Brain, explain.


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:28pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
we do.


That's the spirit, Homo. You're really very brave.

We need more like you. Anyone else?


No need to be brave to blame islam. Islam is for the mentally backward.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:56pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
we do.


That's the spirit, Homo. You're really very brave.

We need more like you. Anyone else?


No need to be brave to blame islam. Islam is for the mentally backward.



he's been here many tears and can't speak english, I'ld have him deported

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:07am
He is a buffoon why do these clowns even bother conversing with such a goofball. By clowns I mean media and government. We know the others are clowns already.

Just look at old Hilayli for crying out out what a backward little man he was.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by easel on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:07am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:07am:
He is a buffoon why do these clowns even bother conversing with such a goofball. By clowns I mean media and government. We know the others are clowns already.

Just look at old Hilayli for crying out out what a backward little man he was.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:13am

issuevoter wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 6:40am:
You are one of the people I noted in line one. Your relativism would have Christians and Jews as big a threat to social cohesion as Muslims. You are able to completely ignore the evidence to maintain your hopeful sense of fairness; something not shared by the Mufti or the scripture he and Farad follow.


You have no evidence, merely your suspicion of that, IssueVoter.  I prefer to act on fact, not Islamophobia.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:14am

easel wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:07am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:07am:
He is a buffoon why do these clowns even bother conversing with such a goofball. By clowns I mean media and government. We know the others are clowns already.

Just look at old Hilayli for crying out out what a backward little man he was.



Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by easel on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:15am

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:15am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:56pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
we do.


That's the spirit, Homo. You're really very brave.

We need more like you. Anyone else?


No need to be brave to blame islam. Islam is for the mentally backward.



he's been here many tears and can't speak english, I'ld have him deported


You apparently have no idea how ironic your statement is, Sprint.    ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:17am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:56pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
we do.


That's the spirit, Homo. You're really very brave.

We need more like you. Anyone else?


No need to be brave to blame islam. Islam is for the mentally backward.



he's been here many tears and can't speak english, I'ld have him deported


You apparently have no idea how ironic your statement is, Sprint.    ::)


Actually it wasn't ironic at all. With all your islamophobia going on brain its a wonder you don't check under your bed in case you said something wrong.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:22am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:17am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:56pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
we do.


That's the spirit, Homo. You're really very brave.

We need more like you. Anyone else?


No need to be brave to blame islam. Islam is for the mentally backward.



he's been here many tears and can't speak english, I'ld have him deported


You apparently have no idea how ironic your statement is, Sprint.    ::)


Actually it wasn't ironic at all. With all your islamophobia going on brain its a wonder you don't check under your bed in case you said something wrong.


Your Islamophobia blinds you to everything, doesn't it, Lifeordeath?   ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:28am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:22am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:17am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:56pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 7:52pm:
Come on, guys. Let's all do the right thing and blame Islam.
we do.


That's the spirit, Homo. You're really very brave.

We need more like you. Anyone else?


No need to be brave to blame islam. Islam is for the mentally backward.



he's been here many tears and can't speak english, I'ld have him deported


You apparently have no idea how ironic your statement is, Sprint.    ::)


Actually it wasn't ironic at all. With all your islamophobia going on brain its a wonder you don't check under your bed in case you said something wrong.


Your Islamophobia blinds you to everything, doesn't it, Lifeordeath?   ::)


I am not scared of islam so I have no Islamophobia but YOUR Islamophobia shines through in the fact you will say anything not to upset a muslim. Even if you make it up. You live in fear.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:38am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:28am:
I am not scared of islam so I have no Islamophobia but YOUR Islamophobia shines through in the fact you will say anything not to upset a muslim. Even if you make it up. You live in fear.


I must remember that when I'm telling one of my Muslim subordinates off, Matty.   ::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:42am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:38am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:28am:
I am not scared of islam so I have no Islamophobia but YOUR Islamophobia shines through in the fact you will say anything not to upset a muslim. Even if you make it up. You live in fear.


I must remember that when I'm telling one of my Muslim subordinates off, Matty.   ::)


Anyone can tell pretend Muslim subordinates off, Karnal.   ::)


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by easel on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:58am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:38am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:28am:
I am not scared of islam so I have no Islamophobia but YOUR Islamophobia shines through in the fact you will say anything not to upset a muslim. Even if you make it up. You live in fear.


I must remember that when I'm telling one of my Muslim subordinates off, Matty.   ::)


Anyone can tell pretend Muslim subordinates off, Karnal.   ::)


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 16th, 2015 at 1:01am

easel wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:58am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:38am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 12:28am:
I am not scared of islam so I have no Islamophobia but YOUR Islamophobia shines through in the fact you will say anything not to upset a muslim. Even if you make it up. You live in fear.


I must remember that when I'm telling one of my Muslim subordinates off, Matty.   ::)


Anyone can tell pretend Muslim subordinates off, Karnal.   ::)




Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by easel on Oct 16th, 2015 at 1:05am

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 16th, 2015 at 1:06am
::)

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by easel on Oct 16th, 2015 at 1:10am
You think you're going to be able to socially degrade a foreign intelligence service deployed operationally and attempt to use that to improve your own image and get away with it?

Who's laughing now?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 16th, 2015 at 1:27am
islam is a political movement

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by easel on Oct 16th, 2015 at 1:36am
Islam has a notion of being used as a social/political system.

Eg, Sharia law, as used in Malaysia and elsewhere.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 16th, 2015 at 9:27am
Islam is not a religion but is a ridiculous ideology to any sane human.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Brian Ross on Oct 16th, 2015 at 11:07pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 9:27am:
Islam is not a religion but is a ridiculous ideology to any sane human.




Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 16th, 2015 at 11:51pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 9:27am:
Islam is not a religion but is a ridiculous ideology to any sane human.




Careful now. Your ignorance is showing.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:23am

mothra wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 11:51pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 9:27am:
Islam is not a religion but is a ridiculous ideology to any sane human.




Careful now. Your ignorance is showing.


You would be one of the not sane I take it. Islam is a ridiculous ideology.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:24am

mothra wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 11:51pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 9:27am:
Islam is not a religion but is a ridiculous ideology to any sane human.


Careful now. Your ignorance is showing.


ignorance
ˈɪɡn(ə)r(ə)ns/
noun
lack of knowledge or information.
"he acted in ignorance of basic procedures"
synonyms:      incomprehension, unawareness, unconsciousness, inexperience, innocence;


That would be you.


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:26am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:23am:

mothra wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 11:51pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 9:27am:
Islam is not a religion but is a ridiculous ideology to any sane human.




Careful now. Your ignorance is showing.


You would be one of the not sane I take it. Islam is a ridiculous ideology.



;D ;D ;D Spot On

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:31am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.



Do you require a translator?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:33am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.


Don't mind mothra she's just an old troll from yahoo before they shut their forums down.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:36am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:33am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.


Don't mind mothra she's just an old troll from yahoo before they shut their forums down.



Yes yes. That;s the best you have. Pitiful really. Are you too intimidated to meet me on solid ground? You have to try to poison the well?

Here's me, laughing at you.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:37am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:33am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.


Don't mind mothra she's just an old troll from yahoo before they shut their forums down.


I figured she was a troll.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:39am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:37am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:33am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.


Don't mind mothra she's just an old troll from yahoo before they shut their forums down.


I figured she was a troll.



LOL. Oh no. It's K-k-ken ... c-c-coming to k-k-k-ill me.

Islamophobic trolls are what you and your sidekicks are.

Quite happy in my skin, thanks very much.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:44am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:37am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:33am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.


Don't mind mothra she's just an old troll from yahoo before they shut their forums down.


I figured she was a troll.


She is an Islamophobic troll too scared to speak out against islam. She has trouble understanding people that aren't scared of islam.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:45am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:44am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:37am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:33am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.


Don't mind mothra she's just an old troll from yahoo before they shut their forums down.


I figured she was a troll.


She is an Islamophobic troll too scared to speak out against islam. She has trouble understanding people that aren't scared of islam.


I feel sorry for people that live in an irrational fear like that.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:47am
You are aware you are describing yourselves. Didn't that even glance across your bow?

I'm perfectly happy with the Islamic community. No problem.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:50am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:45am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:44am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:37am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:33am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:30am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Not me gentlemen. But continue your useless Islamophobia by all means.

Jump at shadows until kingdom come for all i care.

Just don't expect you'll be received well by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.


Your the islamophobic here too scared to speak out against islam certainly not me. I doubt you know what the word intelligence is you clearly didn't know what ideology meant.


Don't mind mothra she's just an old troll from yahoo before they shut their forums down.


I figured she was a troll.


She is an Islamophobic troll too scared to speak out against islam. She has trouble understanding people that aren't scared of islam.


I feel sorry for people that live in an irrational fear like that.


Its ironic they run around calling everyone else that offends their ridiculous mentality islamophobic. Gawd the word is so worn out its laughable.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.




NO. The problem is far more far reaching than that.

Are you interested in the actual problem?

Or are you far too busy blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few?

Whilst you continue to do that, the real problem scurries neatly under your nose.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.


I find them more offensive too, and extremely THICK. I have never met one of these apologist that even know whats in the Qu'ran or even how the doctrine even defines what a muslim actually is. Then when its pointed out to them they ignore it and babble on in ignorance and live in denial.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:58am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.


I find them more offensive too, and extremely THICK. I have never met one of these apologist that even know whats in the Qu'ran or even how the doctrine even defines what a muslim actually is. Then when its pointed out to them they ignore it and babble on in ignorance and live in denial.


Yet most Muslims are peace loving.

How do you reconcile that?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:01am

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am:
NO. The problem is far more far reaching than that.

Are you interested in the actual problem?

Or are you far too busy blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few?

Whilst you continue to do that, the real problem scurries neatly under your nose.


I don't need to reach far to see the problem.
I already know the actual problem.
I already know what ALL muslims believe, it is in their doctrine which states it is NOT open to interpretation but you already know your subject matter so well I really never needed to post that did I.
The real problem is scurrying neatly right up your nose clearly.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:04am

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:58am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.


I find them more offensive too, and extremely THICK. I have never met one of these apologist that even know whats in the Qu'ran or even how the doctrine even defines what a muslim actually is. Then when its pointed out to them they ignore it and babble on in ignorance and live in denial.


Yet most Muslims are peace loving.

How do you reconcile that?


Yeas most if not ALL these muslim extremists that have KILLED AUSTRALIANS were peace loving muslims too. Not only that fulfilled their so called holy books directives.

Are we there yet ?


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:05am
Muslims are simply sleepers with their instruction manual on display for all to read and apologists to deny.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:05am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:04am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:58am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.


I find them more offensive too, and extremely THICK. I have never met one of these apologist that even know whats in the Qu'ran or even how the doctrine even defines what a muslim actually is. Then when its pointed out to them they ignore it and babble on in ignorance and live in denial.


Yet most Muslims are peace loving.

How do you reconcile that?


Yeas most if not ALL these muslim extremists that have KILLED AUSTRALIANS were peace loving muslims too. Not only that fulfilled their so called holy books directives.

Are we there yet ?



Clearly they were not peace loving. Hadn't you worked that out for yourself?

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by mothra on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:06am

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:05am:
Muslims are simply sleepers with their instruction manual on display for all to read and apologists to deny.



Wow. How do you even sleep at night with that amount of paranoia running through you?

Chill out. Enjoy. Most of the world is not out to get you.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:11am

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:06am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:05am:
Muslims are simply sleepers with their instruction manual on display for all to read and apologists to deny.



Wow. How do you even sleep at night with that amount of paranoia running through you?

Chill out. Enjoy. Most of the world is not out to get you.


I'm not paranoid, maybe you should learn a bit about the subject matter before even commenting.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:12am
Good luck with that one.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by LifeOrDeath on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:29am

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:05am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 1:04am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:58am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.


I find them more offensive too, and extremely THICK. I have never met one of these apologist that even know whats in the Qu'ran or even how the doctrine even defines what a muslim actually is. Then when its pointed out to them they ignore it and babble on in ignorance and live in denial.


Yet most Muslims are peace loving.

How do you reconcile that?


Yeas most if not ALL these muslim extremists that have KILLED AUSTRALIANS were peace loving muslims too. Not only that fulfilled their so called holy books directives.

Are we there yet ?



Clearly they were not peace loving. Hadn't you worked that out for yourself?


Exactly the same ones/type you are calling peace loving muslims now. How ironic.

According to the qu'ran every muslim is a justified terrorist and psychopath, ready to go at any time.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Karnal on Oct 17th, 2015 at 8:37am

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.




NO. The problem is far more far reaching than that.

Are you interested in the actual problem?

Or are you far too busy blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few?

Whilst you continue to do that, the real problem scurries neatly under your nose.


We blame Islam.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Soren on Oct 17th, 2015 at 10:14am

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:58am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.


I find them more offensive too, and extremely THICK. I have never met one of these apologist that even know whats in the Qu'ran or even how the doctrine even defines what a muslim actually is. Then when its pointed out to them they ignore it and babble on in ignorance and live in denial.


Yet most Muslims are peace loving.

How do you reconcile that?


Peace through Submission.

Once you submit to Islam, they are lovin' it.


Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by averageguy on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:03pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 8:37am:

mothra wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:57am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 17th, 2015 at 12:53am:
Its fools like that that live in denial of the motivations of islamic terrorism and cry its not islams fault. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about. In may ways they are sicker than the muslims, they should know better. Stupid dumb ignorant apologists are why we have the problem here in the first place.




NO. The problem is far more far reaching than that.

Are you interested in the actual problem?

Or are you far too busy blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few?

Whilst you continue to do that, the real problem scurries neatly under your nose.


We blame Islam.


In your case there is no WE, just YOU.

Title: Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Post by Yadda on Oct 18th, 2015 at 10:28am

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace



The Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies;

"We moslems refuse and reject any form of terrorist activities"



IMAGE.....


Australian Grand Mufti Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed




How could anyone know what ISLAM teaches, better than our 'very own' Grand Mufti of Australia, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed ?

It is not possible!!!!!           :P

After all, he is the Grand Mufti of Australia!


Grand Mufti = = ISLAMIC teacher, and an 'authority' on ISLAMIC law and tenets



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