Anyone got any advice on what to get?

Wouldn't mind some tips on what to look for.

Google for all the information, just like you can about when to prune passion fruit vines. 

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:27am:

Anyone got any advice on what to get? Wouldn't mind some tips on what to look for.

Hmmm need something quiet, easy to use.

Aussie wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:30am:

Google for all the information, just like you can about when to prune passion fruit vines.

STALKER ALERT

Avoid Chinese brands.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:37am:

Avoid Chinese brands.

Gee thanks lol  ;D

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:38am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:37am: Avoid Chinese brands. Gee thanks lol  ;D

The Japanese brands are good, they cost a little more yet by the time you replace your cheap Chinese junk the Japanese stuff works out cheaper in the long run.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:39am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:38am: Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:37am: Avoid Chinese brands. Gee thanks lol  ;D The Japanese brands are good, they cost a little more yet by the time you replace your cheap Chinese junk the Japanese stuff works out cheaper in the long run.

Yep. Agree.

I'll need to see a few. It's hard to know just by looking online.

Ok....time to pack the car, the family and head off to see what's out there.

Lucky me  :'(

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:33am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:27am: Anyone got any advice on what to get? Wouldn't mind some tips on what to look for. Hmmm need something quiet, easy to use.

Where's the challenge in that? Aquascoot will be disappointed.

Now I'm wondering if anyone makes noisy air conditioning systems these days.....that are hard to use.

Don't you just press the buttons on the remote?......much like the tv.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:27am:

Anyone got any advice on what to get? Wouldn't mind some tips on what to look for.

Mitsubushi Electric or Diakyn.

I prefer Mitsubishi Electric

I hope she hasn't rushed off to buy one.

She didn't wait for ozpolitic advice. She'll probably believe some 'air conditioning specialist' from Harvey Norman.

Get five star energy rating.

http://image.haier.com/in/products/refrigerator/directcooldc/W020130607533976041038.png

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:27am:

I hope she hasn't rushed off to buy one. She didn't wait for ozpolitic advice. She'll probably believe some 'air conditioning specialist' from Harvey Norman. Get five star energy rating. http://image.haier.com/in/products/refrigerator/directcooldc/W020130607533976041038.png

Lisas pretty intelligent.
Mitsubushi and diakyn are the industry leaders.
Sort of like buying a toyota or honda.

I used a local A/C electrical company to do my splits for the house.
It's a 2 day job.

They are very good Mitsubs. Diakyns would have been as good

go the mitsu ....

do you only want to cool one room?

The condensation drain leads from a tray under the air handler in the room and passes out through the wall where it is clearly visible dripping while the machine runs. This outlet should have something like a mesh baffle to prevent undesirable creatures getting in and nesting when the machine is not in use.

Turn the power off at the breaker during the off season otherwise the powerboard will invite a short circuit from said creatures getting into the compressor unit.

DAIKIN SPLIT AC (recommended by Neferti some time ago)

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Lisas pretty intelligent.

LOL!!!!!

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 2:24pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 12:22pm: Lisas pretty intelligent. LOL!!!!!

I know. It's hilarious. But look who said it.

mothra wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 2:26pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 2:24pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 12:22pm: Lisas pretty intelligent. LOL!!!!! I know. It's hilarious. But look who said it.

I know, he must think we're all geniuses.

In QLD, we use it for heating in winter, cooling in summer.
So they are really very good.

In winter I put ours on the timer to come on at 2 am and heat to 18 degrees.

In summer I use it to cool the house down when we get home. After 8 pmish, we get breezes and the house is cooled down. Turn it off and open the windows.

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 1:39pm:

DAIKIN SPLIT AC (recommended by Neferti some time ago)

Thanks, mate.  Still going strong, especially in the Canberra Winters.  Had it on today, since if got down to 13C or something.  The cold A/C is also very efficient when we get those 38C days.  Plus it is worth getting the unit serviced every year.

Mitsubishi.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:04am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:33am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:27am: Anyone got any advice on what to get? Wouldn't mind some tips on what to look for. Hmmm need something quiet, easy to use. Where's the challenge in that? Aquascoot will be disappointed. Now I'm wondering if anyone makes noisy air conditioning systems these days.....that are hard to use. Don't you just press the buttons on the remote?......much like the tv.

Bugger off troll!

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:18am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:27am: Anyone got any advice on what to get? Wouldn't mind some tips on what to look for. Mitsubushi Electric or Diakyn. I prefer Mitsubishi Electric

Thanks Sprint.

I saw a few of those today.

I'm still undecided though.

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 12:46pm:

go the mitsu .... do you only want to cool one room?

Hey John...it needs to cool a large open plan lounge/dining/kitchen area.

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 1:39pm:

DAIKIN SPLIT AC (recommended by Neferti some time ago)

Ah.

Will have to think about it a tad more then.

Need to have this sorted by the weekend  :'(

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 5:15pm:

Mitsubishi.

Thanks Greg.

I'm thinking Mitsubishi too.

Not sure .....damn lol.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 7:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 5:15pm: Mitsubishi. Thanks Greg. I'm thinking Mitsubishi too. Not sure .....damn lol.

Never had a problem with mine, and very easy to get parts for (if there is a problem).

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 12:46pm: go the mitsu .... do you only want to cool one room? Hey John...it needs to cool a large open plan lounge/dining/kitchen area.

We got 2. One for our bedroom, other does the rest of the house.That's a common scenario here.

I believe it is better to get a specialist company to come in and measure up for it.
Sure, do your own calculations.
Then get a pro in :-)

We got one of our compressors situated about 4M further away than need be, behind the house.
This allows for normal access on the path beside the house.
It was dearer and a MUCH better location for living with.

We got a mitsi.
Am certain a daikyn would do the job just as well.
Amazingly quiet, very effective.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 7:19pm: Johnsmith wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 12:46pm: go the mitsu .... do you only want to cool one room? Hey John...it needs to cool a large open plan lounge/dining/kitchen area. We got 2. One for our bedroom, other does the rest of the house.That's a common scenario here. I believe it is better to get a specialist company to come in and measure up for it. Sure, do your own calculations. Then get a pro in :-) We got one of our compressors situated about 4M further away than need be, behind the house. This allows for normal access on the path beside the house. It was dearer and a MUCH better location for living with. We got a mitsi. Am certain a daikyn would do the job just as well. Amazingly quiet, very effective.

these days you can get multi systems, one compressor with as many head units as you need. Much cheaper than ducted air conditioning.

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 8:15pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 7:44pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 7:19pm: Johnsmith wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 12:46pm: go the mitsu .... do you only want to cool one room? Hey John...it needs to cool a large open plan lounge/dining/kitchen area. We got 2. One for our bedroom, other does the rest of the house.That's a common scenario here. I believe it is better to get a specialist company to come in and measure up for it. Sure, do your own calculations. Then get a pro in :-) We got one of our compressors situated about 4M further away than need be, behind the house. This allows for normal access on the path beside the house. It was dearer and a MUCH better location for living with. We got a mitsi. Am certain a daikyn would do the job just as well. Amazingly quiet, very effective. these days you can get multi systems, one compressor with as many head units as you need. Much cheaper than ducted air conditioning.

I see.

Looks like I'll need to conduct a few further enquiries before buying anything.

I had a look at the multi head systems.
For a variety of reasons, not a good idea.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:40pm:

I had a look at the multi head systems. For a variety of reasons, not a good idea.

Oh...ok  :-/

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:40pm: I had a look at the multi head systems. For a variety of reasons, not a good idea. Oh...ok  :-/

Well, that's just made your decision making easier.
A multihead system is not significantly cheaper.
It is significantly more complex.
It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable.
If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity.

The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them.
They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days.
You'll be very happy with either.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:44pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:40pm: I had a look at the multi head systems. For a variety of reasons, not a good idea. Oh...ok  :-/ Well, that's just made your decision making easier. A multihead system is not significantly cheaper. It is significantly more complex. It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable. If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity. The general concensus here is mitsubishi or daikin split systems. 1 or 2 of them. They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days. You'll be very happy with either.

Yep. I'm looking up a few prices atm.

Oh and check out the topic next to this one.....pathetically titled "Message to Freediver"  ::)

Let me know if your sides start hurting from laughing too hard .....coz mine are doing that right now  :P

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:48am:

I'll need to see a few. It's hard to know just by looking online. Ok....time to pack the car, the family and head off to see what's out there. Lucky me  :'(

Why can't hubby and the teenagers get themselves into a car?

Do you have to do everything for them?

I don't know why you bothered dragging them around, they were no help.

What a drama for a simple air conditioner.

Can we expect Part II today?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:44pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:40pm: I had a look at the multi head systems. For a variety of reasons, not a good idea. Oh...ok  :-/ Well, that's just made your decision making easier. A multihead system is not significantly cheaper. It is significantly more complex. It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable. If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity. The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them. They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days. You'll be very happy with either.

How so? I could get a multi head unit to do 3 bedrooms for $5k, ducted would cost me over 10k. with a multi, I can turn it on in the room I am using and leave the others off.

I don't think a multi will suit Lisa's purposes, but I think they're a good option for someone who already has air in the living areas and wants to put air into the bedrooms. It's certainly better and cheaper than a compressor for each room.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 6:47am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:48am: I'll need to see a few. It's hard to know just by looking online. Ok....time to pack the car, the family and head off to see what's out there. Lucky me  :'( Why can't hubby and the teenagers get themselves into a car? Do you have to do everything for them? I don't know why you bothered dragging them around, they were no help. What a drama for a simple air conditioner. Can we expect Part II today?

Hubby - work.

Kids - studying/working.

Toddlers need help getting into/out of cars.

Drama? Yep.

Why? There's nothing simple about split system air conditioners. Only a complete nong would suggest otherwise.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:20am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 6:47am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:48am: I'll need to see a few. It's hard to know just by looking online. Ok....time to pack the car, the family and head off to see what's out there. Lucky me  :'( Why can't hubby and the teenagers get themselves into a car? Do you have to do everything for them? I don't know why you bothered dragging them around, they were no help. What a drama for a simple air conditioner. Can we expect Part II today? Hubby - work. Kids - studying/working. Toddlers need help getting into/out of cars. Drama? Yep. Why? There's nothing simple about split system air conditioners. Only a complete nong would suggest otherwise.

It's a home air conditioner not the large hadron collider.

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:17am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:23pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:44pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:40pm: I had a look at the multi head systems. For a variety of reasons, not a good idea. Oh...ok  :-/ Well, that's just made your decision making easier. A multihead system is not significantly cheaper. It is significantly more complex. It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable. If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity. The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them. They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days. You'll be very happy with either. How so? I could get a multi head unit to do 3 bedrooms for $5k, ducted would cost me over 10k. with a multi, I can turn it on in the room I am using and leave the others off. I don't think a multi will suit Lisa's purposes, but I think they're a good option for someone who already has air in the living areas and wants to put air into the bedrooms. It's certainly better and cheaper than a compressor for each room.

Ok John, Sprint etc.....I really need to wrap this up today.

1. I'm buying a split system air conditioner system. It has to be split system.  Can't be ducted.

2. It must service an open plan area consisting of a lounge room, dining room, kitchen oh and I just remembered.....these are exposed to a hallway AND vestibule area....and a current study/office (soon to become Mum's new bedroom). So in essence, all of Mum's downstairs areas.

2. The bedrooms are all upstairs. They don't require anything.

3. The system has to be quiet, easy to operate, and energy efficient. Mum needs to be able to confidently use the remote control on her own.

4. It must be a reliable brand/model.  I'm not prepared to go through this shyte again...nor do I need ongoing breakdown hassles.

5. Price of system is irrelevant. I have that under control. I know how to negotiate. That's my forte lol.

6. Installation costs are also irrelevant. I have electricians and plumbers on tap here lol. Again...I can get all that done at a good price.

7. I think I might need 2 split systems. Can I really get away with just 1? I don't know that I can. It may leave pockets of warm zones here and there which is very unhealthy.

8. Thanks for your help guys. I really mean it. My husband is absolutely useless when it comes to anything practical. He's a man of the suit, pen and laptop. The same now applies to my 2 useless brothers.

Anyway....

issuevoter wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 12:55pm:

The condensation drain leads from a tray under the air handler in the room and passes out through the wall where it is clearly visible dripping while the machine runs. This outlet should have something like a mesh baffle to prevent undesirable creatures getting in and nesting when the machine is not in use. Turn the power off at the breaker during the off season otherwise the powerboard will invite a short circuit from said creatures getting into the compressor unit.

Ummm. Okkkkay.  :-/

Good luck today Lisa.

You must be able to find one in the whole of the wider Sydney area, surely.

I really hope you don't have to go to Europe to get it, that could be costly and time consuming.

It's always a blessing to have people to help damsels in distress, I know.

Don't you hate it when all your air conditioners break down at the same time?

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 12:55pm: The condensation drain leads from a tray under the air handler in the room and passes out through the wall where it is clearly visible dripping while the machine runs. This outlet should have something like a mesh baffle to prevent undesirable creatures getting in and nesting when the machine is not in use. Turn the power off at the breaker during the off season otherwise the powerboard will invite a short circuit from said creatures getting into the compressor unit. Ummm. Okkkkay.  :-/

Ah. Gotcha now. Ongoing maintenance issues.

Need to ask about that too.

Thanks.  :)

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:45am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 8:17am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:23pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:44pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:40pm: I had a look at the multi head systems. For a variety of reasons, not a good idea. Oh...ok  :-/ Well, that's just made your decision making easier. A multihead system is not significantly cheaper. It is significantly more complex. It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable. If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity. The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them. They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days. You'll be very happy with either. How so? I could get a multi head unit to do 3 bedrooms for $5k, ducted would cost me over 10k. with a multi, I can turn it on in the room I am using and leave the others off. I don't think a multi will suit Lisa's purposes, but I think they're a good option for someone who already has air in the living areas and wants to put air into the bedrooms. It's certainly better and cheaper than a compressor for each room. Ok John, Sprint etc.....I really need to wrap this up today. 1. I'm buying a split system air conditioner system. It has to be split system.  Can't be ducted. 2. It must service an open plan area consisting of a lounge room, dining room, kitchen oh and I just remembered.....these are exposed to a hallway AND vestibule area....and a current study/office (soon to become Mum's new bedroom). So in essence, all of Mum's downstairs areas. 2. The bedrooms are all upstairs. They don't require anything. 3. The system has to be quiet, easy to operate, and energy efficient. Mum needs to be able to confidently use the remote control on her own. 4. It must be a reliable brand/model.  I'm not prepared to go through this shyte again...nor do I need ongoing breakdown hassles. 5. Price of system is irrelevant. I have that under control. I know how to negotiate. That's my forte lol. 6. Installation costs are also irrelevant. I have electricians and plumbers on tap here lol. Again...I can get all that done at a good price. 7. I think I might need 2 split systems. Can I really get away with just 1? I don't know that I can. It may leave pockets of warm zones here and there which is very unhealthy. 8. Thanks for your help guys. I really mean it. My husband is absolutely useless when it comes to anything practical. He's a man of the suit, pen and laptop. The same now applies to my 2 useless brothers. Anyway....

you need the total floor area you want cooled. One split system will be enough if you buy one big enough. Once you have the floor area your local air con retailer will be able to tell you which one you need.

Have you got one yet?

An efficient housewife would have had this organised months ago, well before summer is upon us. You needed it to be supplied and installed before October.

You may well lose your #1 Housewife and Mummy Award over this dithering.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:24pm:

Have you got one yet? An efficient housewife would have had this organised months ago, well before summer is upon us. You needed it to be supplied and installed before October. You may well lose your #1 Housewife and Mummy Award over this dithering.

I like all the planning and reconsiderings.
That's where all the fun is.

Once you've decided and paid the deposit ........... well, that's it.

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 3:02pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 8:45am: Johnsmith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 8:17am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:23pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:44pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:40pm: I had a look at the multi head systems. For a variety of reasons, not a good idea. Oh...ok  :-/ Well, that's just made your decision making easier. A multihead system is not significantly cheaper. It is significantly more complex. It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable. If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity. The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them. They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days. You'll be very happy with either. How so? I could get a multi head unit to do 3 bedrooms for $5k, ducted would cost me over 10k. with a multi, I can turn it on in the room I am using and leave the others off. I don't think a multi will suit Lisa's purposes, but I think they're a good option for someone who already has air in the living areas and wants to put air into the bedrooms. It's certainly better and cheaper than a compressor for each room. Ok John, Sprint etc.....I really need to wrap this up today. 1. I'm buying a split system air conditioner system. It has to be split system.  Can't be ducted. 2. It must service an open plan area consisting of a lounge room, dining room, kitchen oh and I just remembered.....these are exposed to a hallway AND vestibule area....and a current study/office (soon to become Mum's new bedroom). So in essence, all of Mum's downstairs areas. 2. The bedrooms are all upstairs. They don't require anything. 3. The system has to be quiet, easy to operate, and energy efficient. Mum needs to be able to confidently use the remote control on her own. 4. It must be a reliable brand/model.  I'm not prepared to go through this shyte again...nor do I need ongoing breakdown hassles. 5. Price of system is irrelevant. I have that under control. I know how to negotiate. That's my forte lol. 6. Installation costs are also irrelevant. I have electricians and plumbers on tap here lol. Again...I can get all that done at a good price. 7. I think I might need 2 split systems. Can I really get away with just 1? I don't know that I can. It may leave pockets of warm zones here and there which is very unhealthy. 8. Thanks for your help guys. I really mean it. My husband is absolutely useless when it comes to anything practical. He's a man of the suit, pen and laptop. The same now applies to my 2 useless brothers. Anyway.... you need the total floor area you want cooled. One split system will be enough if you buy one big enough. Once you have the floor area your local air con retailer will be able to tell you which one you need.

Yep. This afternoon, we went over to Mum's place to measure the floor area which needs to be cooled.

Tomorrow, we're buying the damn thing.

Thanks for all your tips and advice.

Things should be ok now.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:24pm:

Have you got one yet? An efficient housewife would have had this organised months ago, well before summer is upon us. You needed it to be supplied and installed before October. You may well lose your #1 Housewife and Mummy Award over this dithering.

Another way Pansi  would have to just roughly measured up, gone to Harvey Norman - there is one near hurstville - and told them that there is  a two bedroom unit that needs A/C.     Needs to consider is that the unit is near a busy road and also houses a red hot internet router that is in operation 24 hours a day.

Vic wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 9:01am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:24pm: Have you got one yet? An efficient housewife would have had this organised months ago, well before summer is upon us. You needed it to be supplied and installed before October. You may well lose your #1 Housewife and Mummy Award over this dithering. Another way Pansi  would have to just roughly measured up, gone to Harvey Norman - there is one near hurstville - and told them that there is  a two bedroom unit that needs A/C.     Needs to consider is that the unit is near a busy road and also houses a red hot internet router that is in operation 24 hours a day.

In the REAL world, yes......how undramatic that would be.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:11pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 3:02pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 8:45am: Johnsmith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 8:17am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 11:23pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:44pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 10:40pm: I had a look at the multi head systems. For a variety of reasons, not a good idea. Oh...ok  :-/ Well, that's just made your decision making easier. A multihead system is not significantly cheaper. It is significantly more complex. It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable. If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity. The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them. They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days. You'll be very happy with either. How so? I could get a multi head unit to do 3 bedrooms for $5k, ducted would cost me over 10k. with a multi, I can turn it on in the room I am using and leave the others off. I don't think a multi will suit Lisa's purposes, but I think they're a good option for someone who already has air in the living areas and wants to put air into the bedrooms. It's certainly better and cheaper than a compressor for each room. Ok John, Sprint etc.....I really need to wrap this up today. 1. I'm buying a split system air conditioner system. It has to be split system.  Can't be ducted. 2. It must service an open plan area consisting of a lounge room, dining room, kitchen oh and I just remembered.....these are exposed to a hallway AND vestibule area....and a current study/office (soon to become Mum's new bedroom). So in essence, all of Mum's downstairs areas. 2. The bedrooms are all upstairs. They don't require anything. 3. The system has to be quiet, easy to operate, and energy efficient. Mum needs to be able to confidently use the remote control on her own. 4. It must be a reliable brand/model.  I'm not prepared to go through this shyte again...nor do I need ongoing breakdown hassles. 5. Price of system is irrelevant. I have that under control. I know how to negotiate. That's my forte lol. 6. Installation costs are also irrelevant. I have electricians and plumbers on tap here lol. Again...I can get all that done at a good price. 7. I think I might need 2 split systems. Can I really get away with just 1? I don't know that I can. It may leave pockets of warm zones here and there which is very unhealthy. 8. Thanks for your help guys. I really mean it. My husband is absolutely useless when it comes to anything practical. He's a man of the suit, pen and laptop. The same now applies to my 2 useless brothers. Anyway.... you need the total floor area you want cooled. One split system will be enough if you buy one big enough. Once you have the floor area your local air con retailer will be able to tell you which one you need. Yep. This afternoon, we went over to Mum's place to measure the floor area which needs to be cooled. Tomorrow, we're buying the damn thing. Thanks for all your tips and advice. Things should be ok now.

Got everything sorted through the Good Guys.

They've got great deals on split system air conditioners atm.

Awwww, what a pity the 2 lazy and unemployed trolls hovering about in this topic like blowflies and who can't afford anything....will just have to sit back and sweat it out this Summer ... yet again ;D

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 9:28am:

Got everything sorted through the Good Guys. They've got great deals on split system air conditioners atm. Awwww, what a pity the 2 lazy and unemployed trolls hovering about in this topic like blowflies and who can't afford anything....will just have to sit back and sweat it out this Summer ... yet again ;D

well done Lisa .
I have bought things from the good guys before.
They are good.

What did you end up with ?
I'm pretty sure they come out first to confirm the model will be correct.

Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage.

There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever.

You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan.

Now Pansi, leave Lisa alone!

Grandiosity can be a symptom of Bipolar Disorder you know, she needs pity not scorn!

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 2:52pm:

Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage. There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever. You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan.

what sort of mother are you? expecting your kids to buy your air conditioner for you .... buy your own.

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:52pm: Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage. There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever. You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan. what sort of mother are you? expecting your kids to buy your air conditioner for you .... buy your own.

Exactly.  Anyone who owns their own home two floor home outright ought go and get their own.  Fancy waiting for one of your kids to do it for you. 

Aussie wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 3:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:52pm: Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage. There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever. You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan. what sort of mother are you? expecting your kids to buy your air conditioner for you .... buy your own. Exactly.  Anyone who owns their own home two floor home outright ought go and get their own.  Fancy waiting for one of your kids to do it for you.

see Pansi, even Aussie agrees that you were sponging off your kids :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:52pm: Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage. There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever. You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan. what sort of mother are you? expecting your kids to buy your air conditioner for you .... buy your own. Exactly.  Anyone who owns their own home two floor home outright ought go and get their own.  Fancy waiting for one of your kids to do it for you.  see Pansi, even Aussie agrees that you were sponging off your kids :D :D :D

Like Lisa, my little suckers fall for it every time  ;D poor mama  :'(

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:52pm: Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage. There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever. You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan. what sort of mother are you? expecting your kids to buy your air conditioner for you .... buy your own. Exactly.  Anyone who owns their own home two floor home outright ought go and get their own.  Fancy waiting for one of your kids to do it for you.  see Pansi, even Aussie agrees that you were sponging off your kids :D :D :D Like Lisa, my little suckers fall for it every time  ;D poor mama  :'(

you raised them well then  :D :D :D :D

I've been telling my 6 yr old for years that he has to be a doctor and buy daddy a ferrari when he grows up ... so far it's working, he's determined to buy ma a Ferrari ...

I'm not hopeful it will last though :D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

you raised them well then     I've been telling my 6 yr old for years that he has to be a doctor and buy daddy a ferrari when he grows up ... so far it's working, he's determined to buy ma a Ferrari ... I'm not hopeful it will last though

Get him coached in soccer, that way when the EPL sign him up he can buy you and the rest of the family anything your heart desires!
;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:41pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:52pm: Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage. There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever. You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan. what sort of mother are you? expecting your kids to buy your air conditioner for you .... buy your own. Exactly.  Anyone who owns their own home two floor home outright ought go and get their own.  Fancy waiting for one of your kids to do it for you.  see Pansi, even Aussie agrees that you were sponging off your kids :D :D :D Like Lisa, my little suckers fall for it every time  ;D poor mama  :'( you raised them well then  :D :D :D :D I've been telling my 6 yr old for years that he has to be a doctor and buy daddy a ferrari when he grows up ... so far it's working, he's determined to buy ma a Ferrari ... I'm not hopeful it will last though :D :D :D :D

They're so sweet.

Then they grow up.

Quote:

I've been telling my 6 yr old for years that he has to be a doctor and buy daddy a ferrari when he grows up ... so far it's working, he's determined to buy ma a Ferrari ...

Bah.  I actually signed my nephew up to a written deal when he was about seven.  He wanted a dollar, and we agreed that I would give him  that dollar (which I did) if he signed a piece of paper stating that, in exchange, when he was a grown up, he would buy me a Farrari.  He signed.

He now claims I bribed him and refuses to cough up.

Ingrate!

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:43pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:41pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:52pm: Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage. There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever. You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan. what sort of mother are you? expecting your kids to buy your air conditioner for you .... buy your own. Exactly.  Anyone who owns their own home two floor home outright ought go and get their own.  Fancy waiting for one of your kids to do it for you.  see Pansi, even Aussie agrees that you were sponging off your kids :D :D :D Like Lisa, my little suckers fall for it every time  ;D poor mama  :'( you raised them well then  :D :D :D :D I've been telling my 6 yr old for years that he has to be a doctor and buy daddy a ferrari when he grows up ... so far it's working, he's determined to buy ma a Ferrari ... I'm not hopeful it will last though :D :D :D :D They're so sweet. Then they grow up.

Damn ... you mean I won't get my Ferrari?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 11:23am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 9:28am:   Got everything sorted through the Good Guys. They've got great deals on split system air conditioners atm. Awwww, what a pity the 2 lazy and unemployed trolls hovering about in this topic like blowflies and who can't afford anything....will just have to sit back and sweat it out this Summer ... yet again ;D well done Lisa . I have bought things from the good guys before. They are good. What did you end up with ? I'm pretty sure they come out first to confirm the model will be correct.

What did you get lisa?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 11:23am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 9:28am:   Got everything sorted through the Good Guys. They've got great deals on split system air conditioners atm. Awwww, what a pity the 2 lazy and unemployed trolls hovering about in this topic like blowflies and who can't afford anything....will just have to sit back and sweat it out this Summer ... yet again ;D well done Lisa . I have bought things from the good guys before. They are good. What did you end up with ? I'm pretty sure they come out first to confirm the model will be correct. What did you get lisa?

A split system air conditioning unit, like 90% of the population has.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 5:45pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 11:23am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 9:28am:   Got everything sorted through the Good Guys. They've got great deals on split system air conditioners atm. Awwww, what a pity the 2 lazy and unemployed trolls hovering about in this topic like blowflies and who can't afford anything....will just have to sit back and sweat it out this Summer ... yet again ;D well done Lisa . I have bought things from the good guys before. They are good. What did you end up with ? I'm pretty sure they come out first to confirm the model will be correct. What did you get lisa? A split system air conditioning unit, like 90% of the population has.

She is a bit slow Pansi, despite all the grandstanding she puts on.

Perhaps its the Bipolar Disorder showing up.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

If it's not too late - then get a DAIKIN.

I had a Split System specialist here in my lounge room only a few months ago because I thought something must be wrong with my 2.75hp LG Inverter system because it was piss-weak in delivering hot air on the coldest winter mornings.

It turns out there was nothing wrong with the system, and its poor handling was well known to people in the industry.

He told me the only brand known to perform well at start-up on very cold mornings was the Daikin.

Lesson learnt.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 25^th, 2015 at 6:40am:

If it's not too late - then get a DAIKIN. I had a Split System specialist here in my lounge room only a few months ago because I thought something must be wrong with my 2.75hp LG Inverter system because it was piss-weak in delivering hot air on the coldest winter mornings. It turns out there was nothing wrong with the system, and its poor handling was well known to people in the industry. He told me the only brand known to perform well at start-up on very cold mornings was the Daikin. Lesson learnt.

Yes - I have a split system at work & on cold mornings
it blows a cold draft for the first hour.
Sure - the air is warmer than the original cold air but it's still
not what you would call hot air.

An electric heater instantly blows hot air.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 25^th, 2015 at 6:45am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 25th, 2015 at 6:40am: If it's not too late - then get a DAIKIN. I had a Split System specialist here in my lounge room only a few months ago because I thought something must be wrong with my 2.75hp LG Inverter system because it was piss-weak in delivering hot air on the coldest winter mornings. It turns out there was nothing wrong with the system, and its poor handling was well known to people in the industry. He told me the only brand known to perform well at start-up on very cold mornings was the Daikin. Lesson learnt. Yes - I have a split system at work & on cold mornings it blows a cold draft for the first hour. Sure - the air is warmer than the original cold air but it's still not what you would call hot air. An electric heater instantly blows hot air.

'DAIKIN' is the answer. That will be my next brand if my LG is ever headed for the council tip.

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 4:41pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:47pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 3:38pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 2:52pm: Lisa is starting to sound like longy, he thinks he's special because he has a mortgage. There's absolutely nothing special about having air conditioning Lisa.....it's been around like......forever. You should have got mama air con long before this. Are you a neglectful daughter? No wonder she's sick, she's been sweltering all these years with a little $12 fan. what sort of mother are you? expecting your kids to buy your air conditioner for you .... buy your own. Exactly.  Anyone who owns their own home two floor home outright ought go and get their own.  Fancy waiting for one of your kids to do it for you.  see Pansi, even Aussie agrees that you were sponging off your kids :D :D :D Like Lisa, my little suckers fall for it every time  ;D poor mama  :'( you raised them well then  :D :D :D :D I've been telling my 6 yr old for years that he has to be a doctor and buy daddy a ferrari when he grows up ... so far it's working, he's determined to buy ma a Ferrari ... I'm not hopeful it will last though :D :D :D :D

YOU SHOULD BE!

ALL GREEK AND ITALIAN HOUSEHOLDS FUNCTION THIS WAY.

AUSSIES? NO.

WOGS? YES.

FACT!

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 5:45pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 11:23am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 9:28am:   Got everything sorted through the Good Guys. They've got great deals on split system air conditioners atm. Awwww, what a pity the 2 lazy and unemployed trolls hovering about in this topic like blowflies and who can't afford anything....will just have to sit back and sweat it out this Summer ... yet again ;D well done Lisa . I have bought things from the good guys before. They are good. What did you end up with ? I'm pretty sure they come out first to confirm the model will be correct. What did you get lisa? A split system air conditioning unit, like 90% of the population has.

That's right.

Pity you're still stuck in that lonely 10% hey Pantsie. ;D

Welcome to the modern world Lisa.

Is the remote easy to use?  ;D ;D ;D

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 11:23am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 24th, 2015 at 9:28am:   Got everything sorted through the Good Guys. They've got great deals on split system air conditioners atm. Awwww, what a pity the 2 lazy and unemployed trolls hovering about in this topic like blowflies and who can't afford anything....will just have to sit back and sweat it out this Summer ... yet again ;D well done Lisa . I have bought things from the good guys before. They are good. What did you end up with ? I'm pretty sure they come out first to confirm the model will be correct. What did you get lisa?

Foojitsoo  :P

We got a great deal, extended warranty and installation deal from the Good Guys.

Mum's upcoming birthday present is now sorted.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:17am:

Welcome to the modern world Lisa. Is the remote easy to use?  ;D ;D ;D

I can assure you Mum reckons it is.

You should try and buy one. Save up Pantsie....save up.

Well done Lisa.
Fujitsu are a well reputed brand.

I'm sure you will appreciate it on those hot afternoons and cold mornings.
I see A/C's as being a health bonus.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Well done Lisa. Fujitsu are a well reputed brand. I'm sure you will appreciate it on those hot afternoons and cold mornings. I see A/C's as being a health bonus.

Nahhh...we've got ducted.

The split system air con was for Mum's place.

She's been fighting with us for years over getting air conditioning in.

The tough bugger caved in this time....that's her upcoming birthday present from us kids.

When I say the tough bugger caved in..she negotiated a take it or leave it deal with us.

We could only install the system inside her house IF we were prepared to pay all her future electricity bills.

I bet she'll never switch the bloody thing off now lol.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:24am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 7:17am: Welcome to the modern world Lisa. Is the remote easy to use?  ;D ;D ;D I can assure you Mum reckons it is. You should try and buy one. Save up Pantsie....save up.

You might like one of these Lisa.

Electric kettle. They're easy to use. I would recommend a $7 K Mart one, guaranteed for a year.

Does anyone else have some advice on electric kettles for Lisa?

I doubt if someone from K Mart will come out and measure up for it though.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Well done Lisa. Fujitsu are a well reputed brand. I'm sure you will appreciate it on those hot afternoons and cold mornings. I see A/C's as being a health bonus.

Well, maybe not so much on cold mornings ...

And make very sure the fan in the wall unit can swing left and right - and up and down. VERY important.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 7:52am: Well done Lisa. Fujitsu are a well reputed brand. I'm sure you will appreciate it on those hot afternoons and cold mornings. I see A/C's as being a health bonus. Well, maybe not so much on cold mornings ... And make very sure the fan in the wall unit can swing left and right - and up and down. VERY important.

I don't get that.

In what situation wouldn't it be able to?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 1:50pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 7:52am: Well done Lisa. Fujitsu are a well reputed brand. I'm sure you will appreciate it on those hot afternoons and cold mornings. I see A/C's as being a health bonus. Well, maybe not so much on cold mornings ... And make very sure the fan in the wall unit can swing left and right - and up and down. VERY important. I don't get that. In what situation wouldn't it be able to?

Herb has a pommie air con .... it just blows hot air with no real action

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 1:50pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 7:52am: Well done Lisa. Fujitsu are a well reputed brand. I'm sure you will appreciate it on those hot afternoons and cold mornings. I see A/C's as being a health bonus. Well, maybe not so much on cold mornings ... And make very sure the fan in the wall unit can swing left and right - and up and down. VERY important. I don't get that. In what situation wouldn't it be able to?

There wouldn't be one for sale in the shops today which did not have that as a standard thing.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 1:50pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 7:52am: Well done Lisa. Fujitsu are a well reputed brand. I'm sure you will appreciate it on those hot afternoons and cold mornings. I see A/C's as being a health bonus. Well, maybe not so much on cold mornings ... And make very sure the fan in the wall unit can swing left and right - and up and down. VERY important. I don't get that. In what situation wouldn't it be able to?

Some split system air cons just don't have a mobile fan system. Keep a close eye on that.

And do yourself a BIG favour and buy the biggest unit in the shop. Don't be persuaded by some Indian or Italian salesman telling you that one of the smaller units will be enough for you.

Just tell him "vaffanculo!" and go find an Australian salesman to help you. If he follows you around then shout at him "Fottiti!"

8-)

Quote:

Some split system air cons just don't have a mobile fan system. Keep a close eye on that.

Which brands?

Aussie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Quote: Some split system air cons just don't have a mobile fan system. Keep a close eye on that. Which brands?

Buggered if I know. That was about 12 years ago.

My brother made the mistake of having a split system installed - only to find the vanes inside the wall unit were 'static'. Weren't designed to move. Up until then we had never heard of such a thing, and that's what caught us short.

**

Let me repeat: Get a powerful brute or you'll be sorry. Mine is 2.75 HP (HP or candle power or whatever they call it nowadays). Don't get anything less than that.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 5:31pm: Quote: Some split system air cons just don't have a mobile fan system. Keep a close eye on that. Which brands? Buggered if I know. That was about 12 years ago. My brother made the mistake of having a split system installed - only to find the vanes inside the wall unit were 'static'. Weren't designed to move. Up until then we had never heard of such a thing, and that's what caught us short.

And you think they are still of the same design today?

I have a DAIKIN split system. This last Winter in Canberra, I left it on 24/7 so that the house was kept warm .... and for the 3 months, it cost me only about $100 extra from the previous year's quarter when I used to turned it off at night. It uses more energy to "warm" up (much like fluorescent lights).

Oh, I did NOT go to the Good Guys and buy a "system" and then have to get "someone" to install the thing.  I went to the "local" DAIKIN Authorised Agent and they came out and used some computer thing to check the area I needed to heat/cool to determine the size of the unit. They gave me a quote and then supplied the system, installed it and they ring me annually when the annual "service" is due. If I recall the DAIKIN and the installation cost me $2,500 in about 2009.  I hardly ever use the cold air, however, I expect the same thing would apply .... leave the a/c on 24/7 rather than turn it off and on. We can only hope that Canberra won't have a HEAT WAVE Summer.

Congratulations, Neferti. You made the best choice according to the expert I was talking to.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'annual servicing'. I've had my system for yonkers without 'servicing' - and the fellow I called at the beginning of winter told me my unit was in perfect order. The gas was ok - the pressure was okay - and the compressors were okay. Nothing to be done.

Being a woman - they are ripping you off with this annual servicing nonsense.

Aussie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 5:36pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 5:31pm: Quote: Some split system air cons just don't have a mobile fan system. Keep a close eye on that. Which brands? Buggered if I know. That was about 12 years ago. My brother made the mistake of having a split system installed - only to find the vanes inside the wall unit were 'static'. Weren't designed to move. Up until then we had never heard of such a thing, and that's what caught us short. And you think they are still of the same design today?

The cheaper brands - maybe. Just be aware that some shops might still be off-loading these static units from some warehouse deep in the heart of China.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:05pm:

I'm not sure what you mean by 'annual servicing'.

They come once a year, check your gas levels (which shouldn't ever leak anyway), pour a little radiator flush fluid down your overflow outlet and dust the filters . It should all take 5 minutes unless they stop for a chat .  ... all for between $80 to $100

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:05pm:

You made the best choice according to the expert I was talking to.

you're talking to the wrong guy ... don't talk to the air con salesman, he'll always push whatever makes him the most money ... as far as cooling, they'll all do a similar job anyway ...

if you really want the best, its best to talk the appliance repair guys. Best way to find out whats the best is to ask them what they are called out for the least. According to my appliance repair guys, Mitsubishi is the one he is least often called out for.

John Smith wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:13pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 7:05pm: You made the best choice according to the expert I was talking to. you're talking to the wrong guy ... don't talk to the air con salesman, he'll always push whatever makes him the most money ... as far as cooling, they'll all do a similar job anyway ... if you really want the best, its best to talk the appliance repair guys. Best way to find out whats the best is to ask them what they are called out for the least. According to my appliance repair guys, Mitsubishi is the one he is least often called out for.

He wasn't a salesman. He wasn't here to sell me a unit. I hired him from an independent company at an exorbitant $240 for the House Call to tell me why my air con wasn't pumping hot air into my lounge room in the cold early mornings as I was expecting it to do.

And the answer was - it's a brilliant unit I have, but like ALL of them except DAIKIN - they're piss-weak so far as hot air is concerned on very cold mornings.

I am otherwise very happy with my LG Inverter - and have it on almost all year around. In winter I set it to start up at 3.00am.

That's exactly what this guy was - an appliance repair guy. He was embarrassed to take my cheque after finding there was nothing wrong with the unit - but at least for that money I learnt an important lesson for next time - if there is a next time - and that's to choose DAIKIN and don't settle for any other.

Cost me $240 to know that.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:05pm:

Congratulations, Neferti. You made the best choice according to the expert I was talking to. I'm not sure what you mean by 'annual servicing'. I've had my system for yonkers without 'servicing' - and the fellow I called at the beginning of winter told me my unit was in perfect order. The gas was ok - the pressure was okay - and the compressors were okay. Nothing to be done. Being a woman - they are ripping you off with this annual servicing nonsense.

Part of the WARRANTY was to have an annual "service"  I had a 5 year WARRANTY and although that has now passed, having an annual "service" is still well worth the money.

Neferti wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 7:52pm:

Part of the WARRANTY was to have an annual "service"  I had a 5 year WARRANTY and although that has now passed, having an annual "service" is still well worth the money.

Money totally wasted. Any split air con that doesn't last 5 years is junk at the time you bought it.

You're being 'had' - but you're now too ashamed to admit it.

Keep the air filters clean and the static filters washed from time to time - and the rotating fan brushed clean of dust - (all takes less than 30 minutes) - and then terminate the services of this parasite who turns up each year to swindle you out of your hard-earned Aged Pension.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 8:15pm:

Neferti wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 7:52pm: Part of the WARRANTY was to have an annual "service"  I had a 5 year WARRANTY and although that has now passed, having an annual "service" is still well worth the money. Money totally wasted. Any split air con that doesn't last 5 years is junk at the time you bought it. You're being 'had' - but you're now too ashamed to admit it. Keep the air filters clean and the static filters washed from time to time - and the rotating fan brushed clean of dust - (all takes less than 30 minutes) - and then terminate the services of this parasite who turns up each year to swindle you out of your hard-earned Aged Pension.

Absolute bullshit, Herbie. I don't do "cleaning" especially not of "filters".......... besides it is only about $160 a year and the service males are quite worth looking at.  ;D

Neferti wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

besides it is only about $160 a yea

geez ... they saw you coming  :D :D :D

Neferti wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 8:15pm: Neferti wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 7:52pm: Part of the WARRANTY was to have an annual "service"  I had a 5 year WARRANTY and although that has now passed, having an annual "service" is still well worth the money. Money totally wasted. Any split air con that doesn't last 5 years is junk at the time you bought it. You're being 'had' - but you're now too ashamed to admit it. Keep the air filters clean and the static filters washed from time to time - and the rotating fan brushed clean of dust - (all takes less than 30 minutes) - and then terminate the services of this parasite who turns up each year to swindle you out of your hard-earned Aged Pension. Absolute bullshit, Herbie. I don't do "cleaning" especially not of "filters".......... besides it is only about $160 a year and the service males are quite worth looking at.  ;D

Shucks nef, us men love that.

thanks

We have a DAIKIN Ducted System. Apart from cleaning the filters myself, it doesn't need servicing. The Split System is more cost-effective but it does depend on the size of your house.

Muttley wrote on Oct 27^th, 2015 at 8:54am:

We have a DAIKIN Ducted System. Apart from cleaning the filters myself, it doesn't need servicing. The Split System is more cost-effective but it does depend on the size of your house.

Precisely. Doesn't need servicing each year to the tune of 100's of dollars.

Take note Nefertiti.

Don't be too proud to admit you've been making an annual charity donation to your local air conditioner parasites.

Neferti wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Absolute bullshit, Herbie. I don't do "cleaning" especially not of "filters".......... besides it is only about $160 a year and the service males are quite worth looking at.  ;D

You look up their shorts when they climb those A-Frame ladders, don't you? Shameless hussy. And at your age ...

For $160 I'll be your Male Escort for an evening - how about that? You pay for the fine dining and the roulette-wheel at the casino ... and then you get to take me home for an entire night of rollicking horse-play of an amorous nature ...

:-*

John Smith wrote on Oct 26^th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Neferti wrote on Oct 26th, 2015 at 8:31pm: besides it is only about $160 a yea geez ... they saw you coming  :D :D :D

Precisely ... but she's saying ... "la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la ..." with her fingers in her ears.

They get more stubborn as they get older.