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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Fibre uptake zooming! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1446002097 Message started by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 1:14pm |
Title: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 1:14pm Kiwis are switching to FTTH at a record rate! That could have been us but for the stinking Libs! http://www.zdnet.com/article/new-zealand-fibre-uptake-rate-10-times-oecd-average/ I don’t think it is a coincidence that kiwis are returning to NZ in record numbers. Australia is a dump where only housing speculation is flourishing. How long before our creative industries leave for kiwi too? We are paying a heavy price for howard/costello and abbott/hokey and Malodorous. Expect growth to decline and unemployment to rise unless policies are changed. $58Bn and counting for a mish mash of incompatible obsolete technologies is a waste of public money only exceeded by howard. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by IamCOPPERinternetMEETMYHUBRIS on Oct 28th, 2015 at 1:30pm
WELCOME TO THE COPPER INTERNET ELECTION WE HAD TO HAVE :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 2:10pm
No rightard game to comment on this? It shows we are sliding to the status of the poor white trash of Asia.
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Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by IamCOPPERinternetMEETMYHUBRIS on Oct 28th, 2015 at 3:27pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 28th, 2015 at 2:10pm:
Dood, think of nations like Mexico laughing at us :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 5:34pm
Outer Mongolia, Upper Limpopoland are laughing at us. We are an international frigging JOKE! Thanks, stupid Libs, more ons!
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Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 5:56pm
Some comments from Friends of the NBN FaceBook page:
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Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by mariacostel on Oct 28th, 2015 at 6:07pm
A brighter person than the Dumb Monk would note that the graph supplied also showed as as 4th in the OECD.
You really are a dummie, monk! |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 6:19pm
No, I think the real dummy is you, Longy.
All NBN has been doing for the last 49 months is hooking people up to the fibre rolled out under Labor. People want fibre and will move to where it is, especially if it has some enlightened leadership in the country like NZ has. Rolling out the MTM, for well over $100Bn, is the act of a traitor. People are leaving Aust for NZ—can’t you draw the obvious conclusion from that FFS? |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 6:34pm
Wow, one tap with a limp lettuce leaf is all the rightards can do here? Really? What powder puffs!
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Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by mariacostel on Oct 28th, 2015 at 7:42pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 28th, 2015 at 6:19pm:
A) YOUR chart shows australia as 4th thereby debunking your idiot claim B) THe MTM does not cost over $100B. that is yet another of your delusional fantaises with zero evidence C) People are leaving NZ for Oz, not the other way. The only ones going back are being DEPORTED. see if you can get ONE THING RIGHT. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by IamCOPPERinternetMEETMYHUBRIS on Oct 28th, 2015 at 7:57pm mariacostel wrote on Oct 28th, 2015 at 6:07pm:
Mexico laughs at Australia: laugh at that for your legacy fake foreign vested interested sister :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 28th, 2015 at 8:52pm mariacostel wrote on Oct 28th, 2015 at 6:07pm:
The graph also doesn't stipulate whether this is FTTN or FTTH. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 9:52pm mariacostel wrote on Oct 28th, 2015 at 7:42pm:
You are not up to date, Longy! The movement is the other way, Aust to NZ as Aust slowly sinks in the sh1t econmically. More investment in infrastructure, rolling out the real NBN, cleaning up the Budget, stimulating the economy are urgently needed but we aren’t getting it from the abbott/turncoat shambles. The cost of the MTM outdated and incompatible rubbish has already zoomed up to $56Bn. Nothing has been done bar two trials of FTTN and you think the cost won’t increase markedly from $56Bn? Remember, NBN Co more ons still do not know the state of the Telstra copper! And they will run out new copper, the most expensive option to roll out, power and maintain, where the Telstra copper is too bloody crap to use. In years to come $56Bn will be regarded with a snort of derision. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 28th, 2015 at 9:54pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 28th, 2015 at 8:52pm:
FTTH—it is NZ we are talking about, started rolling out FTTN but soon realised it was rubbish and ran out FTTH. Guess Libs are sloooow learners. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 6:19am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 28th, 2015 at 9:54pm:
You have some proof this is what the graph represents - besides your word, which is unreliable at best? |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:37am
Everything I post is fact based. You want to disprove it then go to it and good luck. I know it is hard for you when you can’t just get your opinions straight from the Daily Toilet propaganda rag.
NZ started rolling out FTTN but soon realised it was crap and swapped to rolling out FTTH. You want to dispute that history then good luck to you and your 5 working braincells! |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:50am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:37am:
Come again? :o |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:55am
You are welcome to test everything I post, my not very bright friend.
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Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:05am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:55am:
In science, the onus is on the person making a claim to prove it is sound and can be backed-up. You've done no such thing. All you've provided is a graph with some numbers. Without data the graph is essentially meaningless. You need to prove that it is a graph indicating either FTTH or FTTN. You made the claim, you need to back it up with proof. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:12am
The history of FTTN ==> FTTH is well known. I don’t have to prove it.
There is a brain drain from Australia especially by ICT people. This is mainly because of the mishmash of rubbish the Libs are installing instead of a National Broadband Network. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:42am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:12am:
Gawd, you're daft. I'm not talking about the history of one or the other. I'm talking about you proving the data pertaining to the graph is on FTTN or FTTH!!! ::) |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:01am Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:42am:
I am not a primary school teacher, people on this board are presumed to be adults. So do some reading and educate yourself on the history of FTTN and FTTH in NZ. FTTN rollout was stopped early as it was useless and since then FTTH has been rolled out to a fair part of the country. Or continue displaying your total ignorance—your call. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:04am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:01am:
You make the claim, you back it up. It's very simple - we've all been asked to do it. If you won't we'll accept you are wrong and move on from your discredited graph. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by mariacostel on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:07am Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 6:19am:
He doesnt provide proof. He provides paranoid delusion... |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by mariacostel on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:09am Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:04am:
Mopey Monk will keep this up for weeks, pretending there is proof and then providing none. It is is what imbeciles call 'debating'. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:29am Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:42am:
BUGGER–ALL FTTN WAS ROLLED OUT IN KIWI! Can you read that, my intelligence–deprived mate? |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:35am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:29am:
Says you. Can you prove it? |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by AiA on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:38am
Fibre intake is zooming as well and Aussies all across the country are noticing their turds now float.
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Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:44am
Like I said, you ain’t a schoolkid (presumably, one does sometimes wonder. . .) and I ain’t no teacher, do some reading. This is a good place to start: https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTheNationalBroadbandNetwork/
AiA’s troll–like post reminded me of something: Verizon and AT&T are changing to FTTH from FTTN. We will be the laugh of the planet once the UK switches to FTTH and that won’t be long, their FTTC[abinet] rollout has been nothing but trouble. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:52am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:44am:
Like I said, you make a claim you have to back it up. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by IamCOPPERinternetMEETMYHUBRIS on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:04am mariacostel wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:09am:
--> you just want your homework done because you think everyone's your slave and they have no choices ;) ;) we all know libs smoke crack and lean on daddy for more pocket money until he gets them a job 'estimating' in the family rort :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by IamCOPPERinternetMEETMYHUBRIS on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:06am mariacostel wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:07am:
maria likes her homework done: would you like your feet kissed aswell like a typical female who only ever uses the art of conversation for one thing ??? |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:13am
Looks like ArmPit and Longy are primary school kids. That fits with their behavior here “Is so” “Is not!” Is so!” “You’re a liar” “No, YOU are a liar” and then the abuse comes.
Here you pathetic specimens of so–called adults: http://www.zdnet.com/article/new-zealand-fibre-uptake-rate-10-times-oecd-average/ You might need to do more reading—moving your lips the whole time no doubt. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by mariacostel on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:22am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:44am:
FaceBook??? You have the audacity to use facebook as proof of anything? This is why people laugh at you! |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by IamCOPPERinternetMEETMYHUBRIS on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:22am
A "visionary" investment in fibre networks in New Zealand is propelling the country to the front of the OECD pack, network company Chorus told investors today.
Chief executive Mark Ratcliffe said the rate of fibre adoption in New Zealand is "comfortably" the fastest in the OECD and more than 10-times the OECD average (see chart below). "It is clear that 2015 was the year that fibre went mass market in New Zealand, and that change has come upon all of us in the industry remarkably rapidly," he said. Describing fibre as "the fourth utility", chairman Patrick Strange said, in contrast with New Zealand, Australia's fibre rollout was "awash in cost over-runs and red ink". British Telecom has been building out a fibre-to-the-cabinet network and Australia was now looking to do likewise, he said. "We completed our fibre-to-the-cabinet network in 2011, covering around 80 percent of the population." Fibre use was taking off "massively", Ratcliffe said, outstripping the take-up of copper broadband at the same stage of availability. After four years of availability, copper broadband was used by about 8 percent of customers who could buy it, he said. Fibre adoption is already pushing 20 percent while availability was now "nudging ahead" of the OECD average. Ratcliffe said he had just returned from the Broadband World Forum in Europe and concluded they were not likely to catch up for "decades at least". Therefore, New Zealand needed to benchmark itself against the progressive broadband nations of Asia, not Europe and the US. "We are the envy of many -- they want to do what we are doing but haven't figured out how yet. I firmly believe that the fibre network we are building today will be a visionary investment that future generations will thank us for." While Chorus is clearly pleased with progress on the fibre rollout, it continues to struggle with regulation that has seen the price it can charge for legacy copper access -- still the bulk of its revenue -- slashed. source: http://www.zdnet.com/article/new-zealand-fibre-uptake-rate-10-times-oecd-average/ |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:39am
“Fast broadband should be just a utility”
http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/70081-these-days-fast-broadband-should-be-just-another-utility Well, too bloody bad because we are not going to get superfast internet. FTTN over Telstra copper wouldn’t provide decent speeds even if the nods were well provided with fibre which they are not. HFC can’t provide fast internet either, too subject to congestion—and streamed video just adds to this congestion. You will have to go to Hansard for the committee looking into the MTM to see that there is no provision for DOCSIS3.1 in the NBN Co budget. A steaming pile of second hand crap. Watch emigration of skilled people and creative industries rush out of Australia. The MTM is treason! |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by IamCOPPERinternetMEETMYHUBRIS on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:46am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:39am:
THIS IS THE UPLOAD ELECTION WE HAD TO HAVE! ;) YES INDEEDY: MALCOLM 'WHAT UPLOAD SPEED" TURNBULL IS IN VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE AND SHORTEN SMELLS BLOOD! ...AND DON'T LONGY AND MARIA WHOEVER THE FOREIGN VESTED INTERESTS ARE CALLING THEMSELVES THESE DAYS KNOW IT :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 12:12pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:44am:
LMAO - using Facebook to try to back up your falsehoods. Yeah, we should all use FB as our source because of the sheer volume of peer-reviewed articles it contains! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Oct 29th, 2015 at 12:17pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 12:12pm:
--> welcome to THE UPLOAD ELECTION you and all your foreign investor mates asked for! Enjoy brutha: enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:20pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 12:12pm:
That page is full of information from technical sources. It would probably hurt your little head to read it. Ignorance is bliss to Armpit. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:26pm Quote:
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/turnbulls-faster-cheaper-nbn/6895762 The obsolete technologies Malodorous is running out are not compatible and so IT costs are soaring past $1Bn. |
Title: Re: Fibre uptake zooming! Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 5:19pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31st, 2015 at 7:26pm:
https://delimiter.com.au/2015/11/02/fifield-gets-serious-about-vdsl-cross-talk-issue/ GST is being used as a distraction :) :) |
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