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Message started by Aussie on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:13pm

Title: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Aussie on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:13pm
They just can't lay a glove on Billy.  I'm sure he'd rather do without all the attention, but, he remains an innocent man.  Nothing the LNP has thrown has really stuck.

Link.

Of course, not one would give a rats's arse if he did not hold the balance of power with the Katter boys.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by John Smith on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:17pm
I'm glad they're charging one with attempted blackmail ... they should also charge the other 3.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by macman on Oct 29th, 2015 at 6:13pm
How long do we have to wait to find out the connection between these charming ladies who have made these accusations and the LNP.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by John Smith on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:50pm
armpit you are as stupid as is humanely possible. I don't see how anyone could possibly get dumber than you.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:51pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:50pm:
armpit you are as stupid as is humanely possible. I don't see how anyone could possibly get dumber than you.


You know I'm right, that's why you resort to personal abuse. :)

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by John Smith on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:52pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:50pm:
armpit you are as stupid as is humanely possible. I don't see how anyone could possibly get dumber than you.


You know I'm right, that's why you resort to personal abuse. :)


personal abuse? In your case it's a compliment.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:54pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:50pm:
armpit you are as stupid as is humanely possible. I don't see how anyone could possibly get dumber than you.


You know I'm right, that's why you resort to personal abuse. :)


personal abuse? In your case it's a compliment.


Again with the personal abuse. I accept your surrender and acknowledgement that I am right and you are wrong (as per normal).

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by John Smith on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:58pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:50pm:
armpit you are as stupid as is humanely possible. I don't see how anyone could possibly get dumber than you.


You know I'm right, that's why you resort to personal abuse. :)


personal abuse? In your case it's a compliment.


Again with the personal abuse. I accept your surrender and acknowledgement that I am right and you are wrong (as per normal).



I doubt you've been right once in your life .... you can accept whatever you like, the opinion of an idiot like yourself means nothing to me.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:08pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:50pm:
armpit you are as stupid as is humanely possible. I don't see how anyone could possibly get dumber than you.


You know I'm right, that's why you resort to personal abuse. :)


personal abuse? In your case it's a compliment.


Again with the personal abuse. I accept your surrender and acknowledgement that I am right and you are wrong (as per normal).



I doubt you've been right once in your life .... you can accept whatever you like, the opinion of an idiot like yourself means nothing to me.


More abuse, eh? Clearly that's all you've got and it sure ain't much! Nite.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:15pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


One is either guilty or innocent , no charges, no conviction zip zero nada nenti so nothing to answer to , Libs failed as they did with Gillard and as they will with Shorten  :)

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by gizmo_2655 on Oct 29th, 2015 at 10:01pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:13pm:
They just can't lay a glove on Billy.  .



Yeah, but no-one is allowed to 'take the piss out of Aboriginals'...So Billy being a Koori means NO court or any other group can or will declare him guilty

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by The Grappler on Oct 29th, 2015 at 10:21pm

macman wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
How long do we have to wait to find out the connection between these charming ladies who have made these accusations and the LNP.


Hard to trace paper bag trails..... maybe a little preferential treatment at Centrelink..... bit of a boost up the housing chain..... nice location....

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by The Mechanic on Oct 30th, 2015 at 5:27am

Its time wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


One is either guilty or innocent , no charges, no conviction zip zero nada nenti so nothing to answer to , Libs failed as they did with Gillard and as they will with Shorten  :)


so in your eyes OJ Simpson was Not Guilty of murder??

in YOUR eyes.. ?

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:17am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 5:27am:

Its time wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


One is either guilty or innocent , no charges, no conviction zip zero nada nenti so nothing to answer to , Libs failed as they did with Gillard and as they will with Shorten  :)


so in your eyes OJ Simpson was Not Guilty of murder??

in YOUR eyes.. ?


The lefties just don't get it, eh? Not guilty means a person has been cleared because they are deemed not guilty. Not enough evidence means just that - not enough to judge a person's innocence or guilt.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by cods on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:18am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.





there is so much nudity now flying through space if someone sees the need to flash on his phone I can only guess he is in need of treatment...

but I guess being in parliament is the next best thing.. ::) ::) ::) ::)

there must be a shortage of intelligent people with morals and respect  in Qld...when all they have to pre select are  people of this type.

not surprising this country is going down hill.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:19am

cods wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.





there is so much nudity now flying through space if someone sees the need to flash on his phone I can only guess he is in need of treatment...

but I guess being in parliament is the next best thing.. ::) ::) ::) ::)

there must be a shortage of intelligent people with morals and respect  in Qld...when all they have to pre select are  people of this type.

not surprising this country is going down hill.


One thing's for sure, the ALP has form in picking these candidates!

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Oct 30th, 2015 at 7:18am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:17am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 5:27am:

Its time wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


One is either guilty or innocent , no charges, no conviction zip zero nada nenti so nothing to answer to , Libs failed as they did with Gillard and as they will with Shorten  :)


so in your eyes OJ Simpson was Not Guilty of murder??

in YOUR eyes.. ?


The lefties just don't get it, eh? Not guilty means a person has been cleared because they are deemed not guilty. Not enough evidence means just that - not enough to judge a person's innocence or guilt.


Kangaroo court  :)

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 30th, 2015 at 7:26am

Its time wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 7:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:17am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 5:27am:

Its time wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 9:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


One is either guilty or innocent , no charges, no conviction zip zero nada nenti so nothing to answer to , Libs failed as they did with Gillard and as they will with Shorten  :)


so in your eyes OJ Simpson was Not Guilty of murder??

in YOUR eyes.. ?


The lefties just don't get it, eh? Not guilty means a person has been cleared because they are deemed not guilty. Not enough evidence means just that - not enough to judge a person's innocence or guilt.


Kangaroo court  :)


No - common sense. I know - not something you have, but we're happy to teach you.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Kytro on Oct 30th, 2015 at 9:53am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


This is true, but it's cleared as far as our legal system is concerned because we have a presumption of innocence

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by cods on Oct 30th, 2015 at 10:09am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:19am:

cods wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.





there is so much nudity now flying through space if someone sees the need to flash on his phone I can only guess he is in need of treatment...

but I guess being in parliament is the next best thing.. ::) ::) ::) ::)

there must be a shortage of intelligent people with morals and respect  in Qld...when all they have to pre select are  people of this type.

not surprising this country is going down hill.


One thing's for sure, the ALP has form in picking these candidates!



they dont have a good record do they?....

as far as I am concerned anyone who shows his true colours...in this case sending unwanted pic of his own ego....should not be representing people in parliament...do we honestly think anyone would have voted for him had this been common knowledge before the election????... hardly..... well whats different now....

the point is..he did it...it creeps me out to be honest...

I can only believe the Qld people donbt care who is there as long as its not the side they dont like.... >:( >:( I see no call for his dismissal

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Aussie on Oct 30th, 2015 at 10:13am

Quote:
I see no call for his dismissal


Why call for the impossible?  He cannot be dismissed.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by John Smith on Oct 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm

cods wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 10:09am:
they dont have a good record do they?....



Geoff Shaw, Peter Slipper, Troy Buswell .. shall I go on?  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Aussie on Oct 30th, 2015 at 1:46pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

cods wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 10:09am:
they dont have a good record do they?....



Geoff Shaw, Peter Slipper, Troy Buswell .. shall I go on?  :D :D :D


LNP's Peter Dowling is more on point.  Get your text with testicles in a wine glass off him.

Link.



Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on Oct 30th, 2015 at 2:13pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

cods wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 10:09am:
they dont have a good record do they?....



Geoff Shaw, Peter Slipper, Troy Buswell .. shall I go on?  :D :D :D



Bloke who sent a picture of his donk in a glass of red....

Bloke who took the girlfriend on a queensland hideaway while the missus worked.

And if the voters of queensland are unhappy with the current Labor government, then the wonderful Lawrence Springborg awaits your vote.



Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Aussie on Oct 30th, 2015 at 2:27pm

Vic wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

cods wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 10:09am:
they dont have a good record do they?....



Geoff Shaw, Peter Slipper, Troy Buswell .. shall I go on?  :D :D :D



Bloke who sent a picture of his donk in a glass of red....

Bloke who took the girlfriend on a queensland hideaway while the missus worked.

And if the voters of queensland are unhappy with the current Labor government, then the wonderful Lawrence Springborg awaits your vote.


That's the Peter Dowling I just mentioned.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:11pm

Kytro wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


This is true, but it's cleared as far as our legal system is concerned because we have a presumption of innocence


Hasn't gone to our legal system. The Police decided not to go further due to insufficient evidence.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Kiron22 on Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:26pm

macman wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
How long do we have to wait to find out the connection between these charming ladies who have made these accusations and the LNP.


They probably will, but the media won't report on it.

When my friend worked for the Greens, almost on a weekly basis Young Libs would create some bullshit scandal that they themselves had completely instigated and it would be posted in The Australian the next morning without any evidence what so ever. They got so petty here last election Young Libs literally made up a scandal that lost the Greens Representative's wife her job at the ANU because of bad press, even though a few weeks later she was completely cleared and it was found Young Libs made the entire thing up.

According to my friend, they would literally be stalked by Young Libs, they had people watching the office and literally following Simon Sheikh and senior campaign execs wherever they went.

Zed ran a brutally dirty campaign last election. It actually sickens me he's my senator. He's worse than Abbott.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:32pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:11pm:

Kytro wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


This is true, but it's cleared as far as our legal system is concerned because we have a presumption of innocence


Hasn't gone to our legal system. The Police decided not to go further due to insufficient evidence.

Police do not say “innocent” they look for evidence and if none os found that is what they say. Courts can declare someone innocent of whatever charge they were indicted for.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:09pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:11pm:

Kytro wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


This is true, but it's cleared as far as our legal system is concerned because we have a presumption of innocence


Hasn't gone to our legal system. The Police decided not to go further due to insufficient evidence.

Police do not say “innocent” they look for evidence and if none os found that is what they say. Courts can declare someone innocent of whatever charge they were indicted for.


So then the truth is that Gordon wasn't "cleared". There's just not enough evidence to secure a conviction.

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by John Smith on Nov 1st, 2015 at 3:26pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:09pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:11pm:

Kytro wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


This is true, but it's cleared as far as our legal system is concerned because we have a presumption of innocence


Hasn't gone to our legal system. The Police decided not to go further due to insufficient evidence.

Police do not say “innocent” they look for evidence and if none os found that is what they say. Courts can declare someone innocent of whatever charge they were indicted for.


So then the truth is that Gordon wasn't "cleared". There's just not enough evidence to secure a conviction.


there wasn't even enough evidence for him to be charged you idiot. :D :D :D

Title: Re: Qld MLA Billy Gordon cleared - again.
Post by Aussie on Nov 1st, 2015 at 3:34pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:09pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:32pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:11pm:

Kytro wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:47pm:
A "comprehensive" police investigation concluded with "insufficient evidence to lay charges" over the claims.

That's not the same as being cleared of the allegations. It means just what it says - there isn't enough evidence to mount a prosecution. It doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent. I don't know enough about his situation to say much more on it other than this.


This is true, but it's cleared as far as our legal system is concerned because we have a presumption of innocence


Hasn't gone to our legal system. The Police decided not to go further due to insufficient evidence.

Police do not say “innocent” they look for evidence and if none os found that is what they say. Courts can declare someone innocent of whatever charge they were indicted for.


So then the truth is that Gordon wasn't "cleared". There's just not enough evidence to secure a conviction.


Correct.  There was not enough evidence to suggest he was guilty of any offence. He was not charged, not convicted.  Ergo, in our system of justice,  he is an innocent man.

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