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Message started by Raven on Nov 1st, 2015 at 11:28pm

Title: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Raven on Nov 1st, 2015 at 11:28pm
Do we have the world's most expensive refugee policy? It costs us a fortune - over a billion dollars in 2014 for  just over 2000 refugees on both Nauru and Manus Island. By contrast UNHCR spent $157 Million (or 16% of our spending) looking after 200,000 refugees, half a million internally displaced people and 1.4 million stateless people.

How long can we justify this cost? One country's hot potato issues is another's lottery win. We've substantially increased foreign aid and introduced a brand new Asylum Seeker processing industry which has injected hundreds of millions of dollars into their economies.

We’ve taken money (and jobs) out of the Australian economy so that we can send victims of war, terrorism and persecution to these islands.

What we've become is a Sugar Daddy. At the expense of our own citizens. The question is, should we persue a policy that has a massive expense with little gain?

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by mothra on Nov 1st, 2015 at 11:32pm

Raven wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 11:28pm:
Do we have the world's most expensive refugee policy? It costs us a fortune - over a billion dollars in 2014 for  just over 2000 refugees on both Nauru and Manus Island. By contrast UNHCR spent $157 Million (or 16% of our spending) looking after 200,000 refugees, half a million internally displaced people and 1.4 million stateless people.

How long can we justify this cost? One country's hot potato issues is another's lottery win. We've substantially increased foreign aid and introduced a brand new Asylum Seeker processing industry which has injected hundreds of millions of dollars into their economies.

We’ve taken money (and jobs) out of the Australian economy so that we can send victims of war, terrorism and persecution to these islands.

What we've become is a Sugar Daddy. At the expense of our own citizens. The question is, should we persue a policy that has a massive expense with little gain?


No. We should abandon this outrageous policy at the earliest convenience.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by He Man on Nov 1st, 2015 at 11:59pm

mothra wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 11:32pm:

Raven wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 11:28pm:
Do we have the world's most expensive refugee policy? It costs us a fortune - over a billion dollars in 2014 for  just over 2000 refugees on both Nauru and Manus Island. By contrast UNHCR spent $157 Million (or 16% of our spending) looking after 200,000 refugees, half a million internally displaced people and 1.4 million stateless people.

How long can we justify this cost? One country's hot potato issues is another's lottery win. We've substantially increased foreign aid and introduced a brand new Asylum Seeker processing industry which has injected hundreds of millions of dollars into their economies.

We’ve taken money (and jobs) out of the Australian economy so that we can send victims of war, terrorism and persecution to these islands.

What we've become is a Sugar Daddy. At the expense of our own citizens. The question is, should we persue a policy that has a massive expense with little gain?


No. We should abandon this outrageous policy at the earliest convenience.


Agreed we should shut the borders and let the little termites infest a place of their own bile religion. Indonesia.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 3:45am
Look on the bright side. Lifting and broadening taxes, so everyone pays more GST, helps fund these gulags.

Conservatives are happy to pay higher taxes for inhumane treatment of refugees, yet not to save our environment so to save ourselves.

Conservatives are strange creatures.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by macman on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 5:24am
Do not forget our 'millionaire refugees' in Cambodia. Shame liberals shame.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 5:38am
yes...

the cost of a Labor/Greens government is horrendous.. and never ending...

Rudd.. Gillard.. and all of those dropkicks that voted for them ought to be ashamed of themselves...  >:(

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by bogarde73 on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:25am
Nothing more important than keeping the enemy outside your gates.
Christ, we've got enough of them already in . . .like Mother Russia fr instance.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by aquascoot on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:34am
a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"


the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Dame Pansi on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:41am

macman wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 5:24am:
Do not forget our 'millionaire refugees' in Cambodia. Shame liberals shame.



An extremely expensive failed attempt to offload our troubles onto a corrupt, third world nation.

Next country on the shopping list....Kyrgyzstan....oh my allah!

When will we grow up and take responsibility for our own problems?

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:43am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:34am:
a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"


the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

Nah, the Libs spend that money to appease bogans and racists, like Scoot it seems.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 7:23am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:34am:
a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"


the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

Nah, the Libs spend that money to appease bogans and racists, like Scoot it seems.


So now it's racist to decide who we allow into this country?

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by innocentbystander. on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 8:54am
The more the idiot left hear about Sweden becoming the rape capital of Europe because of muslim immigration the more they want to ramp up muslim immigration here, why does the idiot left want women to be raped?  :'(

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by bogarde73 on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 9:05am
So they can turn around and yell about how bad men are.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Kiron22 on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 9:05am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 7:23am:
So now it's racist to decide who we allow into this country?


Does it feel good to have John Howards hand up your arse?

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by aquascoot on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 9:09am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:34am:
a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"


the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

Nah, the Libs spend that money to appease bogans and racists, like Scoot it seems.



These people should be given an opportunity to stay in australia with the following provisos.

No access to citizenship or welfare and they get reassessed after 5 years .
If they have started a successful small business (many will have because it requires a level of guts and courage to make the journey) they can stay.

Manus and naru can then be used to house those who dont turn up to their work for the dole programs.

this way we replace leaners with lifters .

Its like a football team,  we delist the non performers and send out talent scouts to get new recruits to help us be a winning team

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Raven on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 11:59pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 5:38am:
yes...

the cost of a Labor/Greens government is horrendous.. and never ending...

Rudd.. Gillard.. and all of those dropkicks that voted for them ought to be ashamed of themselves...  >:(


Agreed, to bad we payed that billion during the Abbott government.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by The Grappler on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:05am

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 8:54am:
The more the idiot left hear about Sweden becoming the rape capital of Europe because of muslim immigration the more they want to ramp up muslim immigration here, why does the idiot left want women to be raped?  :'(



Define Swedish rape - nobody else can.... just asking....

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by The Grappler on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:06am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 9:09am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 6:34am:
a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"


the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

Nah, the Libs spend that money to appease bogans and racists, like Scoot it seems.



These people should be given an opportunity to stay in australia with the following provisos.

No access to citizenship or welfare and they get reassessed after 5 years .
If they have started a successful small business (many will have because it requires a level of guts and courage to make the journey) they can stay.

Manus and naru can then be used to house those who dont turn up to their work for the dole programs.

this way we replace leaners with lifters .

Its like a football team,  we delist the non performers and send out talent scouts to get new recruits to help us be a winning team


but... but.. we need Manus and Nauru to  gulag house failed politicians and other social misfits......

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:56pm

Raven wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 11:59pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 5:38am:
yes...

the cost of a Labor/Greens government is horrendous.. and never ending...

Rudd.. Gillard.. and all of those dropkicks that voted for them ought to be ashamed of themselves...  >:(


Agreed, to bad we payed that billion during the Abbott government.


Paid...

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by bogarde73 on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 2:31pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:05am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 8:54am:
The more the idiot left hear about Sweden becoming the rape capital of Europe because of muslim immigration the more they want to ramp up muslim immigration here, why does the idiot left want women to be raped?  :'(



Define Swedish rape - nobody else can.... just asking....


Maybe this will answer some questions Grappler:
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Raven on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:50pm
So what has our billion dollars been spent on? Let's look at meals.

Two human teeth haven been found in an asylum seekers lunch. This is not the first time teeth have been found in their food with a similar incident occurring in 2013.

This incident follows a mass outbreak of food poisoning affecting 100 asylum seekers. Staff initially tried to tell asylum seekers they were struck by gastroenteritis and diarrhoea – all of them on the same day – because they didn’t wash their hands before eating.

Staff have since conceded to asylum seekers they were food-poisoned.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by He Man on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:52pm

Raven wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:50pm:
So what has our billion dollars been spent on? Let's look at meals.

Two human teeth haven been found in an asylum seekers lunch. This is not the first time teeth have been found in their food with a similar incident occurring in 2013.

This incident follows a mass outbreak of food poisoning affecting 100 asylum seekers. Staff initially tried to tell asylum seekers they were struck by gastroenteritis and diarrhoea – all of them on the same day – because they didn’t wash their hands before eating.

Staff have since conceded to asylum seekers they were food-poisoned.


They could always go home.

It would have been cheaper to just man some boats with ammo.

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by The Grappler on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 10:00pm
But... but... but.. we NEED those islands to gulag failed politicians and other social undesirables.... their pension fund can pay for their accommodation and keep.....

Title: Re: Nauru & Manus Island
Post by Raven on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 10:34pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:56pm:

Raven wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 11:59pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 2nd, 2015 at 5:38am:
yes...

the cost of a Labor/Greens government is horrendous.. and never ending...

Rudd.. Gillard.. and all of those dropkicks that voted for them ought to be ashamed of themselves...  >:(


Agreed, to bad we payed that billion during the Abbott government.


Paid...


Too

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