- while calling it everything but 'Islam'.

This is an initial $47,000,000 to fight Australia's idiocy in migrating people here whose loyalties will always remain with foreign governments, foreign cultures, foreign people, alien social values and traditions, and a religion that is inimical to Western values.

And now the government is using tax-payer money to finance the Damage Control now needed to keep us safe from being blown to bits in our own homeland.

Thank God those Australians who died in the wars are not alive to witness the tragic mess that post-war politicians have made of this country with regard to inviting the poison that is 'Islam' to come dwell among us like a toxic miasma.

$47,000,000 in NSW alone to tell Muslim kids to please not kill us because it's anti-social, and besides that it creates a mess that somebody has to clean up.

Utter insanity.

And then the government allows Muslims fighting for ISIS to return to Australia and resume living here, and as well stops blood-thirsty Muslims at the airports trying to join up with ISIS - and returns them to their homes in Australia's suburbs.

No deportations - hell no. That would be 'fascist' and 'Rightwing'. Got to coddle the little darlings and not upset the chardonnaise-elite who wallow in Leftwing moral conceit.

Not even George Orwell was able to foresee this. It was WAY too much of a grim fantasy for even his prescient gifts to have predicted.

And amazingly - those politicians who are still alive and who had a hand in sponsoring and facilitating Muslim immigration whilst shouting people down as 'RACIST!' whenever they questioned the wisdom of this act of national self-harm -- are living on lucrative government pensions and a whole host of 'Gold Passes' instead of being incarcerated in prisons out there in the Australian deserts where the sun burns hot and the sand flies bite deep.

What we are witnessing today is entirely the fault of do-gooder Leftwing policy that was all heart-and-no-brain for how it would affect the future.

The 'future' has arrived. We're standing in it. The federal government is spending billions on tackling The Muslim Problem, and our State governments are budgettig for millions on fighting this very same Muslim Problem.

Quite literally, The People's Firing Squads should be busy winkling out the politicians who have been responsible for the utter insanity of the situation we are faced with today in which our own home-grown Muslims are duty-bound to murder us and our loved ones.

 

Quote:

No deportations - hell no. That would be 'fascist' and 'Rightwing'. Got to coddle the little darlings and not upset the chardonnaise-elite who wallow in Leftwing moral conceit.

Are you saying all Muslims would be detained and deported from Australia if it wasn't for the luvvies?

I'm curious.

Just out of interest, Herbie, are you aware that every major party in Australia supports multiculturalism? Are you aware that there is no political party with a platform of deporting Muslims? Are you aware that this would require a change to the constitution and would be impossible without somewhere to deport them to?

Just wondering.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 6:15am:

- while calling it everything but 'Islam'. This is an initial $47,000,000 to fight Australia's idiocy in migrating people here whose loyalties will always remain with foreign governments, foreign cultures, foreign people, alien social values and traditions, and a religion that is inimical to Western values. And now the government is using tax-payer money to finance the Damage Control now needed to keep us safe from being blown to bits in our own homeland. Thank God those Australians who died in the wars are not alive to witness the tragic mess that post-war politicians have made of this country with regard to inviting the poison that is 'Islam' to come dwell among us like a toxic miasma. $47,000,000 in NSW alone to tell Muslim kids to please not kill us because it's anti-social, and besides that it creates a mess that somebody has to clean up. Utter insanity. And then the government allows Muslims fighting for ISIS to return to Australia and resume living here, and as well stops blood-thirsty Muslims at the airports trying to join up with ISIS - and returns them to their homes in Australia's suburbs. No deportations - hell no. That would be 'fascist' and 'Rightwing'. Got to coddle the little darlings and not upset the chardonnaise-elite who wallow in Leftwing moral conceit. Not even George Orwell was able to foresee this. It was WAY too much of a grim fantasy for even his prescient gifts to have predicted. And amazingly - those politicians who are still alive and who had a hand in sponsoring and facilitating Muslim immigration whilst shouting people down as 'RACIST!' whenever they questioned the wisdom of this act of national self-harm -- are living on lucrative government pensions and a whole host of 'Gold Passes' instead of being incarcerated in prisons out there in the Australian deserts where the sun burns hot and the sand flies bite deep. What we are witnessing today is entirely the fault of do-gooder Leftwing policy that was all heart-and-no-brain for how it would affect the future. The 'future' has arrived. We're standing in it. The federal government is spending billions on tackling The Muslim Problem, and our State governments are budgettig for millions on fighting this very same Muslim Problem. Quite literally, The People's Firing Squads should be busy winkling out the politicians who have been responsible for the utter insanity of the situation we are faced with today in which our own home-grown Muslims are duty-bound to murder us and our loved ones.

bump.

yes, I'ld be selling muslims assets to reimburse us the costs of islam.

ban islam, deport muslims.

Yeah, not everyone sees Islam as the problem. Just because you do, does not make it so

Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( 

Kytro wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:28am:

Yeah, not everyone sees Islam as the problem. Just because you do, does not make it so

You would have to be as thick as a box of nails not to see islam is the problem.

I wouldnt deport the front bottoms, but we cant keep taking more in.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:57am:

Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Lefty PC moronic idiots.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:01pm:

Kytro wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 10:28am: Yeah, not everyone sees Islam as the problem. Just because you do, does not make it so You would have to be as thick as a box of nails not to see islam is the problem.

middle eastern front bottoms are the problem, they just happen to mostly be moslems.  Lebs are not exactly model citizens, despite being "christian".

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 6:15am:

...... ...... And amazingly - those politicians who are still alive and who had a hand in sponsoring and facilitating Muslim immigration whilst shouting people down as 'RACIST!' whenever they questioned the wisdom of this act of national self-harm -- are living on lucrative government pensions and a whole host of 'Gold Passes' instead of being incarcerated in prisons out there in the Australian deserts where the sun burns hot and the sand flies bite deep. What we are witnessing today is entirely the fault of do-gooder Leftwing policy that was all heart-and-no-brain for how it would affect the future.

I blame Karnal.

BAN him, DEPORT him!





Where to ?

Bangladesh.

Karnal loves the Bangladeshi's.

.....and hates Australians,   ....and, common-sense.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 6:15am:

- while calling it everything but 'Islam'. This is an initial $47,000,000 to fight Australia's idiocy in migrating people here whose loyalties will always remain with foreign governments, foreign cultures, foreign people, alien social values and traditions, and a religion that is inimical to Western values. And now the government is using tax-payer money to finance the Damage Control now needed to keep us safe from being blown to bits in our own homeland. Thank God those Australians who died in the wars are not alive to witness the tragic mess that post-war politicians have made of this country with regard to inviting the poison that is 'Islam' to come dwell among us like a toxic miasma. $47,000,000 in NSW alone to tell Muslim kids to please not kill us because it's anti-social, and besides that it creates a mess that somebody has to clean up. Utter insanity. And then the government allows Muslims fighting for ISIS to return to Australia and resume living here, and as well stops blood-thirsty Muslims at the airports trying to join up with ISIS - and returns them to their homes in Australia's suburbs. No deportations - hell no. That would be 'fascist' and 'Rightwing'. Got to coddle the little darlings and not upset the chardonnaise-elite who wallow in Leftwing moral conceit. Not even George Orwell was able to foresee this. It was WAY too much of a grim fantasy for even his prescient gifts to have predicted. And amazingly - those politicians who are still alive and who had a hand in sponsoring and facilitating Muslim immigration whilst shouting people down as 'RACIST!' whenever they questioned the wisdom of this act of national self-harm -- are living on lucrative government pensions and a whole host of 'Gold Passes' instead of being incarcerated in prisons out there in the Australian deserts where the sun burns hot and the sand flies bite deep. What we are witnessing today is entirely the fault of do-gooder Leftwing policy that was all heart-and-no-brain for how it would affect the future. The 'future' has arrived. We're standing in it. The federal government is spending billions on tackling The Muslim Problem, and our State governments are budgettig for millions on fighting this very same Muslim Problem. Quite literally, The People's Firing Squads should be busy winkling out the politicians who have been responsible for the utter insanity of the situation we are faced with today in which our own home-grown Muslims are duty-bound to murder us and our loved ones.

If we don't sort our lame assed government out next election the country will be stuffed. I don't mean repeating the greens and labor mistakes either.

We need that new party to get up that not scared of sorting the muslim problems out.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 11:57am: Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  Lefty PC moronic idiots.

No it was from bed wetting, progressive, limp wristed, leftys.

... wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:02pm:

I wouldnt deport the nice people, but we cant keep taking more in.

Apologist.

Got to coddle the little darlings and not upset the chardonnaise-elite who wallow in Leftwing moral conceit.

Yadda wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Karnal loves the Bangladeshi's.

Ever met any yourself, Y?

An unfair question, I know. You don't need to know any to hate them.

Ban them.

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 11:57am: Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  Lefty PC moronic idiots.

And let's not forget the faux 'Conservatives' of both Britain and Australia who are as guilty of politically correct immigration policy as any Far Leftwing government could be.

In the fullness of time they will all be dealt with.

Angela Merkel's stroke of genius - (which I've only just woken up to) - in which she has ensured a groundswell of Rightwing popular sentiment that will lead to the election of a Rightwing party that will take steps to reclaim the Germain homeland for the Germans - is coming along very nicely, thank you.

It's absurdities like this that are pushing public sentiment away from Leftwing Progressive national-suicide towards a more conservative and patriotic mindset.

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:04pm: Karnal loves the Bangladeshi's. Ever met any yourself, Y? An unfair question, I know. You don't need to know any to hate them. Ban them.

Yes ... but what are the Islamic values that they champion which run counter to our own secular Western values?

An American Christian family whose father was an evangelist in Bangladesh was roasted alive, trapped in their car, by a mob of Muslims a few years ago.

Even the nicest of Muslims are Carriers. Their son, or grandson, or great grandson can 'get the call to jihad' that costs 3 lives or 3000 lives.

Carriers.

Islam is a sexually transmitted disease.

It can remain dormant in a couple of generations and then explode into deadly action.

Every father of arrested would-be Islamic terrorists in our jails is 'appalled' that their son could be involved in such a thing.

"WHERE did he get these ideas?!" the fathers wail ..

.. umm ... don't look now, Mustafa, but it all began with those 5 O'Clock prayers in the morning, and that Koran you keep on the coffee table in the lounge ...

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:27pm: Yadda wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:04pm: Karnal loves the Bangladeshi's. Ever met any yourself, Y? An unfair question, I know. You don't need to know any to hate them. Ban them. Yes ... but what are the Islamic values that they champion which run counter to our own secular Western values?

I'm not sure, Herbie.

Are you?

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:04pm: Karnal loves the Bangladeshi's. Ever met any yourself, Y? An unfair question, I know. You don't need to know any to hate them. Ban them.

Bangladesh = = moslem majority jurisdiction

Bangladeshi's = = moslem



And every moslem, is a moslem.


Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.





ISLAM = =  ?????????

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"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4



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"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111





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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems. ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers']. .....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac" - Yadda QUESTION; What about the innocent moslems ? IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems. How so [logically] ? QUESTION; How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ? QUESTION; How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ? QUESTION; How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:06pm:

If we don't sort our lame assed government out next election the country will be stuffed. I don't mean repeating the greens and labor mistakes either. We need that new party to get up that not scared of sorting the muslim problems out.

Luke 21:26
Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth.....


No ?

:)

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:57am:

Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

We made a bad mistake

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 11:57am: Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  We made a bad mistake

Blame it on: bed wetting, progressive, limp wristed, leftys.

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:46pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:41pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:27pm: Yadda wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:04pm: Karnal loves the Bangladeshi's. Ever met any yourself, Y? An unfair question, I know. You don't need to know any to hate them. Ban them. Yes ... but what are the Islamic values that they champion which run counter to our own secular Western values? I'm not sure, Herbie. Are you?

I'll let you know when gandalf answers a question of him that I have asked many times, but which he has refused to answer.

He knows it's an invidious question that if he were to answer it truthfully would put Islam in the shithouse.

To wit: "Morally, in what way is Islam superior to Christianity?" - and bear in mind that it was gandalf who made a considered choice to convert to Islam. He wasn't born into it. I'm intrigued to know just what moral precepts found in Islam's Sacred Books persuaded him to switch from Christianity to Mohammedanism.

(Personally, I believe he made the switch in the hopes of being seen to be an intellectual heavyweight to be admired by the bearded set with their elbow patches and their tweed jackets smelling of pipe tobacco).

Trendies love to be counter-intuitive and shocking to their conservative parents.

Converting to Islam is the ultimate w ank.

And then Islam is a religion from which it is dangerous to withdraw from ...

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 6:15am:

...... ...... And amazingly - those politicians who are still alive and who had a hand in sponsoring and facilitating Muslim immigration whilst shouting people down as 'RACIST!' whenever they questioned the wisdom of this act of national self-harm -- are living on lucrative government pensions and a whole host of 'Gold Passes' instead of being incarcerated in prisons out there in the Australian deserts where the sun burns hot and the sand flies bite deep. What we are witnessing today is entirely the fault of do-gooder Leftwing policy that was all heart-and-no-brain for how it would affect the future.

For every ailment which mankind suffers through - there are causes, and there are symptoms.

Treating only symptoms [e.g. pain, discomfort], usually, is absolutely futile.




I don't blame moslems, for the consequences [i.e. for the symptoms] which we see today, of moslems 'being here', living among us, AND CAUSING STRIFE AMONG US.

I blame ourselves, and particularly i blame those persons who had authority to govern us [those who we gave authority to, to govern us].

People, policy advisor's [over the last 50-70 years], our government leaders [i.e. particularly government cabinet members] [over the last 50-70 years], who have behaved with a criminal negligence, imo, in the performance of their duties, as stewards of our nation.



Dictionary;
steward = =
1 a person who looks after the passengers on a ship or aircraft.
2 a person responsible for supplies of food to a college, club, etc.
3 an official appointed to supervise arrangements at a large public event.
4 shop steward.
5 a person employed to manage another’s property, especially a large house or estate.



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I blame those persons.

But more than that, i blame ourselves, for willingly [as adults!], 'taking someone's hand', and being led down to the tool shed, at the bottom of the garden.

We ourselves, are responsible for the cause of our own misfortune, and for the presence of moslems among us.

We did not have to continue to allow this circumstance [not once we had access to information which would tell us about the nature and character of moslems].

e.g.

Information, that would plainly reveal to us, that every moslem, is a moslem.


Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.





ISLAM = =  ?????????

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"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4



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"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

Never a truer word, :) Yadda!

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:46pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:41pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:27pm: Yadda wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:04pm: Karnal loves the Bangladeshi's. Ever met any yourself, Y? An unfair question, I know. You don't need to know any to hate them. Ban them. Yes ... but what are the Islamic values that they champion which run counter to our own secular Western values? I'm not sure, Herbie. Are you? I'll let you know when gandalf answers a question of him that I have asked many times, but which he has refused to answer. He knows it's an invidious question that if he were to answer it truthfully would put Islam in the shithouse. To wit: "Morally, in what way is Islam superior to Christianity?"

That's a tough one, Herbie. How does it address the question of Muslims running counter to secular Western values?

Muhammed Ali converted to Islam too. About the only belief he had than ran counter to Amerikan values was his conscientious objection. He refused to go to war because "no Viet Cong called him n! gger". He faced 5 years in jail for this decision and lost his title and his livelihood, but he stuck to it.

In Ali's case, his stance was vindicated - by the Supreme Court. He remains a Muslim today.

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:04pm: Karnal loves the Bangladeshi's. Ever met any yourself, Y? An unfair question, I know. You don't need to know any to hate them. Ban them.

Bangladeshi's are 'lovely people'.

......according to Karnal.



Quote:

February 5, 2008 70-year-old woman, convert from Islam to Christianity, burned to death in Bangladesh ....DHAKA, BANGLADESH (BosNewsLife)-- Christian villagers in a Muslim-majority area of Bangladesh on Tuesday, February 5, mourned the death of a 70-year-old woman who died from burns she suffered when a mob reportedly set her home ablaze as a punishment for converting from Islam to Christianity.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019813.php




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Bangladesh = = moslem majority jurisdiction

Bangladeshi's = = moslem



And every moslem, is a moslem.


Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.





ISLAM = =  ?????????

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"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4



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"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:08pm:

Never a truer word, :) Yadda!

Oh, I know.


Quote:

Information, that would plainly reveal to us, that every moslem, is a moslem.

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Muhammed Ali converted to Islam too. About the only belief he had than ran counter to Amerikan values was his conscientious objection. He refused to go to war because "no Viet Cong called him n! gger". He faced 5 years in jail for this decision and lost his title and his livelihood, but he stuck to it. In Ali's case, his stance was vindicated - by the Supreme Court. He remains a Muslim today.

Wasn't it Clinton who also avoided conscription by sneaking over the border into Canada?

My own views on enforced conscription is that it should never be implemented unless ones own country is threated by a clear and present danger from an enemy that is hell-bent on the destruction or invasion of your homeland.

There are easily enough volunteers in a country like America without having to press-gang young men off the streets to go die in places like Vietnam and the rest.

I have no issue with those Americans who crossed into Canada to avoid conscription for the Vietnam war, but I dare say a great many of them would have later regretted that decision for what they had to live with for the rest of their lives - pariahs and outcasts.

PS. Your quoting Clay's "Ain't no slopey ever done called me N*****!" - is actually quite farcical.

In the wake of the Vietnam war hundreds of black babies were born to Vietnamese women ... and just as with half-breed children among our own aborigines in the outback communities - their lives were made a living hell by those very same people who Clay championed as never having called him a N*****.

... dear O dear O dear ...

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 2:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 1:13pm: Muhammed Ali converted to Islam too. About the only belief he had than ran counter to Amerikan values was his conscientious objection. He refused to go to war because "no Viet Cong called him n! gger". He faced 5 years in jail for this decision and lost his title and his livelihood, but he stuck to it. In Ali's case, his stance was vindicated - by the Supreme Court. He remains a Muslim today. Wasn't it Clinton who also avoided conscription by sneaking over the border into Canada?

No, Herb. Clinton avoided conscription by going to university.

But I can see how you'd get that mixed up by joining the underground and going into exile.

An easy mistake to make, eh?

Hundreds of half-caste black babies became boys and girls in their local area in the townships, villages, and remote farming districts - and were treated with disdain ... ostracised  .. bullied ... and called a lot worse than 'Nígger'.

In fact it became so bad for these black 'leftovers' from the war - that efforts were made to have them taken to America to escape the cruelty they were facing.

An 'own goal' and hoisted by your own petard, Karnal - and for Cassius Clay too.

Christ Muslims cost a load of money. Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once?

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:14pm:

Christ Muslims cost a load of money.

I know. Apparently they've produced black babies in Vietnam.

Money for jam, eh?

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:14pm:

Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once?

More like Herbie, you mean?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean?

Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke.

The Islammic Fascists need their ideology criminalized. Lock up any turd that promotes it, shut down all mosques. Thats how you combat this scum. Not by giving them money hold fascist kumbayah meetings.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:56pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean? Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke.

Sorry, Homo, who's saying we're blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims killing people? Do you mean the reported figure of $4,700,000?

Where did that information come from?

Oh, that's right. Herbie.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean?

We could do worse, you know. Someone who advocates racial warfare, genocide, nuclear war, and military rule. Why not?

Herb makes the most devout Jihadist sound like a peacenik.

Yes, we need more like Herbie.

Why did we bring them here? 

  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( 

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:35pm:

Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

It was certainly a big error . It's made me realize that you can't always trust the judgement of the people in power.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:35pm: Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  It was certainly a big error . It's made me realize that you can't always trust the judgement of the people in power.

Whoever is responsible for bringing them here should go to jail
for the rest of their lives.

This anti- terrorism fight is costing us over $1 billion per year -

and 100% of those involved are Muslims.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:50pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:40pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:35pm: Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  It was certainly a big error . It's made me realize that you can't always trust the judgement of the people in power. Whoever is responsible for bringing them here should go to jail for the rest of their lives. This anti- terrorism fight is costing us over $1 billion per year - and 100% of those involved are Muslims.

Has Herbie raised the figure?

Please explain.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:56pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean? Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke.

Overall, Muslim immigration is proving to be a financial loss to Australia.

The massive amounts being spent by the federal and State governments to police the Muslims.

The cost of court cases and prison accommodation for Muslims.

The record number of voluntarily unemployed dole bludging on the taxpayer by the Muslims.

The dodgy Disability Support Pensions.

The nett financial position would be a zero benefit to Australia.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:40pm:

It was certainly a big error . It's made me realize that you can't always trust the judgement of the people in power.

;D ;D ;D

Not being as generous as you, I would have worded it a little differently - to wit: ".. you can't ever trust the judgment of the people in power".

And incidentally - whatever happened to that new Australian Liberty Alliance Party? Sunk without a trace?

Or is it that Australia's mainstream Leftwing media is starving it of publicity oxygen?

link

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:40pm: It was certainly a big error . It's made me realize that you can't always trust the judgement of the people in power. ;D ;D ;D Not being as generous as you, I would have worded it a little differently - to wit: ".. you can't ever trust the judgment of the people in power".

They’ll be dealt with in the fullness of time, Herbie. We’ll trust the white supremacists when they come to power, even if you won’t live the day to see it.

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:26pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:56pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean? Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke. Sorry, Homo, who's saying we're blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims killing people? Do you mean the reported figure of $4,700,000? Where did that information come from? Oh, that's right. Herbie.

$47,000,000 Karnal. Not $4,700,000. Plus the billions spent in other places like Bobby mentioned. This whole radical Islam thing is costing Australia a fortune.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:26pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:56pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean? Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke. Sorry, Homo, who's saying we're blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims killing people? Do you mean the reported figure of $4,700,000? Where did that information come from? Oh, that's right. Herbie. $47,000,000 Karnal. Not $4,700,000. Plus the billions spent in other places like Bobby mentioned. This whole radical Islam thing is costing Australia a fortune.

Who’s spending 47 bil on the Muslims, Homo?

Herbie wouldn’t say.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:50pm:

and 100% of those involved are Muslims.

Nope.

Can I post those PMs you sent me, Booby?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:50pm: and 100% of those involved are Muslims. Nope. Can I post those PMs you sent me, Booby?

Do they have any sexy parts?

I’d like to read them.

These numbers are doing my head in.

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:26pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:56pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean? Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke. Sorry, Homo, who's saying we're blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims killing people? Do you mean the reported figure of $4,700,000? Where did that information come from? Oh, that's right. Herbie. $47,000,000 Karnal. Not $4,700,000. Plus the billions spent in other places like Bobby mentioned. This whole radical Islam thing is costing Australia a fortune. Who’s spending 47 bil on the Muslims, Homo? Herbie wouldn’t say.

$47 million dear. It adds up to billions with all the other terrorism costs sweetness.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:46pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:43pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:33pm: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:26pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:56pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean? Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke. Sorry, Homo, who's saying we're blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims killing people? Do you mean the reported figure of $4,700,000? Where did that information come from? Oh, that's right. Herbie. $47,000,000 Karnal. Not $4,700,000. Plus the billions spent in other places like Bobby mentioned. This whole radical Islam thing is costing Australia a fortune. Who’s spending 47 bil on the Muslims, Homo? Herbie wouldn’t say. $47 million dear. It adds up to billions with all the other terrorism costs sweetness.

Sorry, million. How many billion is it, Homo?

Can we donate?

Terror fight costs $30 billion


Date

September 11, 2011
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AS THE world commemorates the 10-year anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks, Australia's bill for fighting terrorism edges towards $30 billion, and local analysts are questioning whether we are getting value for money.

The $30 billion figure is an estimate, based on expert analysis of Australian spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the rivers of cash poured into police and intelligence agencies, and other security measures since the September 11 attacks on the US.

While the spending has been unquestioned by political leaders, analysts are asking if it is time to re-assess whether the risk warrants the expense.

Their concerns come as Prime Minister Julia Gillard prepares to reaffirm Australia's military alliance with the US at a ceremony in Canberra tonight.

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Ms Gillard will tell those gathered, many of whom will be relatives and friends of the 10 Australians who were killed in the attacks, that she intends to forge even closer military ties with the US in the shared fight against terrorism.

In New York and Washington, counterterrorism officials have been working to determine the veracity of a tip-off about a planned al-Qaeda bomb strike in the US to coincide with local commemoration ceremonies.

Streets in Manhattan have been closed to traffic and police are patrolling subways and blocks around the Ground Zero site, where President Barack Obama and former president George W. Bush will attend the unveiling of the three-hectare memorial garden tonight (Melbourne time).

With one expert saying the likelihood of an Australian being killed by a terrorist is one in 7 million a year, comparable to the risk of being killed by lightning, some analysts believe that it is time to decide if we are spending too much on the ''war on terror''. The issue will be the focus of a security industry conference in Canberra this week.

Part of the problem in assessing the value of the security bill is a lack of clarity in official accounting, and the absence of any cost-benefit analysis.

Unlike the US, the federal government does not have a separate homeland security budget. Since the September 11 attacks, the US has spent about $US1 trillion ($A950 billion) on homeland security.

Add in the costs of the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the figure is about $US4 trillion.

Mark Thomson, a former Defence Department official and now an analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, is an expert on the defence budget.

Drawing on budget figures, he calculates Australia has spent an extra $21.3 billion on defence and security since 2001 on top of what the government would normally have spent.

The largest share has gone on the military commitments to the Iraq war ($2.4 billion), and Afghanistan ($7 billion and counting).

As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan.

A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response.

The nominal increase in ASIO's budget over the past nine years is 471 per cent, according to Mr Thomson's calculations. Its budget allocation in 2001 was $69 million. This year it is close to $400 million.

His calculations do not include spending by state and local governments, nor the cost of additional security introduced by business and other non-government organisations.

Athol Yates, executive director of think tank the Australian Security Research Centre, has calculated that Canberra has spent about $10.5 billion on homeland security, while state and local governments plus private industry have forked out another $5.5 billion, taking the total domestic security bill to about $16 billion.

When combined with the extra military spending, the tally is $26.9 billion so far. Given Australia's commitment to Afghanistan will continue at least until 2014, the bill will easily reach $30 billion in coming years.

More than 100 Australians have been killed by terrorists since 2001 - all of them overseas, the majority in the 2002 Bali bombing. There have been no

terrorist attacks in Australia, but agencies such as ASIO argue they have foiled four ''mass casualty events''.

In a recent speech, ASIO director-general David Irvine said the organisation was investigating ''literally hundreds'' of possible terrorist plans.

Mr Yates, who will chair this week's security industry conference, said there was growing evidence that a lot of the spending was ineffective. ''A key theme [of the conference] is about recalibrating our security response,'' he said.

''This is a polite way of saying, 'Guys, we know this isn't right any more, we can't justify it, there's no evidence to support the expenditure to date.' ''

Newcastle academic Professor Mark Stewart, co-author of the book Terror, Security, and Money: Balancing the Risks, Benefits, and Costs of Homeland Security, will speak at the conference. He said no one in government was asking how counterterrorism funds were being spent or if the spending was effective.

.....That's 4 years ago dearest. You could throw some billions on to the bill. Thanks Islam.

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:50pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:40pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:35pm: Why did we bring them here?    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  It was certainly a big error . It's made me realize that you can't always trust the judgement of the people in power. Whoever is responsible for bringing them here should go to jail for the rest of their lives. This anti- terrorism fight is costing us over $1 billion per year - and 100% of those involved are Muslims. Has Herbie raised the figure? Please explain.

$1 billion is the figure I heard on TV for the amount
the Federal Govt. is spending to fight terrorism -

read - Muslim idiots trying to kill us.

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:50pm: and 100% of those involved are Muslims. Nope. Can I post those PMs you sent me, Booby? Do they have any sexy parts? I’d like to read them. These numbers are doing my head in.

I can't post them, unless Booby gives me permission.

'Sexy' is a subjective term, don't you think?

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:53pm:

Terror fight costs $30 bil Read later AS THE world commemorates the 10-year anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks, Australia's bill for fighting terrorism edges towards $30 billion, and local analysts are questioning whether we are getting value for money. The $30 billion figure is an estimate, based on expert analysis of Australian spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the rivers of cash poured into police and intelligence agencies, and other security measures since the September 11 attacks on the US. While the spending has been unquestioned by political leaders, analysts are asking if it is time to re-assess whether the risk warrants the expense. Their concerns come as Prime Minister Julia Gillard prepares to reaffirm Australia's military alliance with the US at a ceremony in Canberra tonight. Advertisement Ms Gillard will tell those gathered, many of whom will be relatives and friends of the 10 Australians who were killed in the attacks, that she intends to forge even closer military ties with the US in the shared fight against terrorism. In New York and Washington, counterterrorism officials have been working to determine the veracity of a tip-off about a planned al-Qaeda bomb strike in the US to coincide with local commemoration ceremonies. Streets in Manhattan have been closed to traffic and police are patrolling subways and blocks around the Ground Zero site, where President Barack Obama and former president George W. Bush will attend the unveiling of the three-hectare memorial garden tonight (Melbourne time). With one expert saying the likelihood of an Australian being killed by a terrorist is one in 7 million a year, comparable to the risk of being killed by lightning, some analysts believe that it is time to decide if we are spending too much on the ''war on terror''. The issue will be the focus of a security industry conference in Canberra this week. Part of the problem in assessing the value of the security bill is a lack of clarity in official accounting, and the absence of any cost-benefit analysis. Unlike the US, the federal government does not have a separate homeland security budget. Since the September 11 attacks, the US has spent about $US1 trillion ($A950 billion) on homeland security. Add in the costs of the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the figure is about $US4 trillion. Mark Thomson, a former Defence Department official and now an analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, is an expert on the defence budget. Drawing on budget figures, he calculates Australia has spent an extra $21.3 billion on defence and security since 2001 on top of what the government would normally have spent. The largest share has gone on the military commitments to the Iraq war ($2.4 billion), and Afghanistan ($7 billion and counting). As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan. A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response. The nominal increase in ASIO's budget over the past nine years is 471 per cent, according to Mr Thomson's calculations. Its budget allocation in 2001 was $69 million. This year it is close to $400 million. His calculations do not include spending by state and local governments, nor the cost of additional security introduced by business and other non-government organisations. Athol Yates, executive director of think tank the Australian Security Research Centre, has calculated that Canberra has spent about $10.5 billion on homeland security, while state and local governments plus private industry have forked out another $5.5 billion, taking the total domestic security bill to about $16 billion. When combined with the extra military spending, the tally is $26.9 billion so far. Given Australia's commitment to Afghanistan will continue at least until 2014, the bill will easily reach $30 billion in coming years. More than 100 Australians have been killed by terrorists since 2001 - all of them overseas, the majority in the 2002 Bali bombing. There have been no terrorist attacks in Australia, but agencies such as ASIO argue they have foiled four ''mass casualty events''. In a recent speech, ASIO director-general David chair this week's security industry conference, said there was growing evidence that a lot of the spending was ineffective. ''A key theme [of the conference] is about recalibrating our security response,'' he said. ''y ure to date.' '' Newcastle academic Professor Mark Stewart, co-author of the book Terror, Security, and Money: Balancing the Risks, Benefits, and Costs of Homeland Security, will speak at the conference. He said no one in government was asking how counterterrorism funds were being spent or if the spending was effective. .....That's 4 years ago dearest. You could throw some billions on to the bill. Thanks Islam.

Sorry, Homo, how were the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq fighting terrorism?

They’ represent the biggest creation of terrorism this century. ISIS are a direct product of the invasion of Iraq. The Taliban have gone nowhere. They’re bigger than ever.

You’re right. The war on terror was not very good value for money, but where’s that $47 figure come from?

Excellent forensic research, Double.

You will now see from Karnal's response that he couldn't give a tinker's cuss if it's costing 60 billion or 120 billion - for him it's all about championing the underdog against those horrible White British Racists.

Let the Muslims blow up any damn thing they like in Australia and he'll energise his brain to come up with 'reasons' they are not really to blame, and how ultimately all blame sheets back to White British Racists.

Hint: It's an utter waste of time and effort to exchange words with Karnal. Once sh!t stiffens into a solid turd there's not much you can do about moulding it into a different shape.

You can kick it along the ground, and maybe even smoke it like Marla might try to do when there's a shortage of marijuana in her neighbourhood - and then some might even crush it into a powder to sprinkle onto the boss's pizza, but it never returns to being pliable and impressionable as when you could throw pebbles into it.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:13pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:56pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean? Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke. Overall, Muslim immigration is proving to be a financial loss to Australia. The massive amounts being spent by the federal and State governments to police the Muslims. The cost of court cases and prison accommodation for Muslims. The record number of voluntarily unemployed dole bludging on the taxpayer by the Muslims. The dodgy Disability Support Pensions. The nett financial position would be a zero benefit to Australia.

Yes, they will always be a financial sinkhole, but what we have lost from bringing them here cannot be measured in financial terms.

Thanks, Herbie. My apologetic response thus far has consisted of a single question: where did you get your 47 figure from?

Sorry if it’s a tricky question. We all know how sensitive you are to abuse, you know.

... wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:13pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:56pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm: Can't we get some migrants who benefit Australia for once? More like Herbie, you mean? Because the social engineers failed to understand the concept of cultural and religious compatibility our government is blowing much needed billions on stopping Muslims  killing people. What a joke. Overall, Muslim immigration is proving to be a financial loss to Australia. The massive amounts being spent by the federal and State governments to police the Muslims. The cost of court cases and prison accommodation for Muslims. The record number of voluntarily unemployed dole bludging on the taxpayer by the Muslims. The dodgy Disability Support Pensions. The nett financial position would be a zero benefit to Australia. Yes, they will always be a financial sinkhole, but what we have lost from bringing them here cannot be measured in financial terms.

Exactly. Just look at what those Bangladeshis have done to Rotto.

Immeasurable.

Vichy Australians - don't you just love them?

In the fullness of time ....

The muselmen are just the tools - the Vichys are the real destroyers. 

Karnal  believes  billions haven't been spent on  trying to keep Australian's safe from radical Islam . Wake up dear.

So who’s spending 47 mil? And on what?

Sorry if this is a difficult question. We all support the republic.

Except when we feel like overturning it and installing a fascist regime.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:10pm:

Karnal  believes  billions haven't been spent on  trying to keep Australian's safe from radical Islam . Wake up dear.

You’re right there, Homo. I was under the impression we spent billions following Uncle around the world without thinking of the consequence (or the reason).

Feel free to convince me otherwise. They don’t call you Doubleplusgood for nothing, eh?

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:15pm:

So who’s spending 47 mil? And on what? Sorry if this is a difficult question. We all support the republic. Except when we feel like overturning it and installing a fascist regime.

It's from the article dear. It's the budget for NSW anti terrorism initiatives. It was announced by the state government. Take it up with them.

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:18pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Karnal  believes  billions haven't been spent on  trying to keep Australian's safe from radical Islam . Wake up dear. You’re right there, Homo. I was under the impression we spent billions following Uncle around the world without thinking of the consequence (or the reason). Feel free to convince me otherwise. They don’t call you Doubleplusgood for nothing, eh?

Billions have been spent at home sweetness. It's in the article. And that's only up to 2011. It's way beyond that.

Specialist teams and trained counsellors will identify students at risk of radicalisation and help to counter violent extremism in schools as part of a $47 million package developed by the Baird government.

Five expert teams will be deployed across NSW schools to respond to incidents of violent extremism and help schools that have been "identified" as being at risk.

The teams, which will cost about $15 million, include former principals, psychologists and student support workers and will help schools to develop strategies.

Counsellors and teaching staff will have access to extra support and training from the start of the 2016 school year, to give them skills to identify students at risk.

As part of the measures, 200 extra counsellors will be recruited and trained so that they can identify vulnerable students and refer them to support programs.

A hotline will also be set up for people needing advice on how to help young people who may be exposed to violent extremist influences.

... wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

The muselmen are just the tools - the Vichys are the real destroyers.

So true. Well spotted.

It's the Vichy Australians who are the facilitators of letting our enemies continue to come pouring into our cities from across the moat along the drawbridges.

They are preparing the groundwork for the Apocalypse that some future generation is going to have to suffer as the consequence of the Vichy Australians who predominate in our Times.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:24pm:

... wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:58pm: The muselmen are just the tools - the Vichys are the real destroyers.  So true. Well spotted. It's the Vichy Australians who are the facilitators of letting our enemies continue to come pouring into our cities from across the moat along the drawbridges. They are preparing the groundwork for the Apocalypse that some future generation is going to have to suffer as the consequence of the Vichy Australians who predominate in our Times.

What about Europe Herbert?? They don't know who's coming in. ISIS are probably pouring in. Dumb do-gooders.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:23pm:

Specialist teams and trained counsellors will identify students at risk of radicalisation and help to counter violent extremism in schools as part of a $47 million package developed by the Baird government. Five expert teams will be deployed across NSW schools to respond to incidents of violent extremism and help schools that have been "identified" as being at risk. The teams, which will cost about $15 million, include former principals, psychologists and student support workers and will help schools to develop strategies. Counsellors and teaching staff will have access to extra support and training from the start of the 2016 school year, to give them skills to identify students at risk. As part of the measures, 200 extra counsellors will be recruited and trained so that they can identify vulnerable students and refer them to support programs. A hotline will also be set up for people needing advice on how to help young people who may be exposed to violent extremist influences.

You don't know whether to laugh or cry, it is just so utterly absurd.

Not even George Orwell could have envisioned this insanity in his wildest dreams.

And all the while the politicians are letting yet more thousands of Muslims pour into the country each year.

It's farcical.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:28pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:23pm: Specialist teams and trained counsellors will identify students at risk of radicalisation and help to counter violent extremism in schools as part of a $47 million package developed by the Baird government. Five expert teams will be deployed across NSW schools to respond to incidents of violent extremism and help schools that have been "identified" as being at risk. The teams, which will cost about $15 million, include former principals, psychologists and student support workers and will help schools to develop strategies. Counsellors and teaching staff will have access to extra support and training from the start of the 2016 school year, to give them skills to identify students at risk. As part of the measures, 200 extra counsellors will be recruited and trained so that they can identify vulnerable students and refer them to support programs. A hotline will also be set up for people needing advice on how to help young people who may be exposed to violent extremist influences. You don't know whether to laugh or cry, it is just so utterly absurd. Not even George Orwell could have envisioned this insanity in his wildest dreams. And all the while the politicians are letting yet more thousands of Muslims pour into the country each year. It's farcical.

I don't know what to do. Just forget about it and worry about my patch and family or fight. The fight will probably come anyway.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:15pm: So who’s spending 47 mil? And on what? Sorry if this is a difficult question. We all support the republic. Except when we feel like overturning it and installing a fascist regime. It's from the article dear. It's the budget for NSW anti terrorism initiatives. It was announced by the state government. Take it up with them.

Sorry, Homo, I can’t see a thing about money spent to counter Muslims. Wasn’t that your original claim?

To be honest, dear, I’ve forgotten. Just to settle all this, why don’t you provide a quote that addresses that?

We’ll get onto the Vichy regime in a mo.

It is the same all across the Anglosphere - life has been too good and too comfortable for so long, that softcockery has become endemic. 

When softcocks abound, predators will start sniffing around.  But let us not forget that the muselman is a parasite, not an apex predator.  When the softness of the cock has been cured, the muselman will be dealt with effortlessly.  The traitors within must be the priority.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:28pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:23pm: Specialist teams and trained counsellors will identify students at risk of radicalisation and help to counter violent extremism in schools as part of a $47 million package developed by the Baird government. Five expert teams will be deployed across NSW schools to respond to incidents of violent extremism and help schools that have been "identified" as being at risk. The teams, which will cost about $15 million, include former principals, psychologists and student support workers and will help schools to develop strategies. Counsellors and teaching staff will have access to extra support and training from the start of the 2016 school year, to give them skills to identify students at risk. As part of the measures, 200 extra counsellors will be recruited and trained so that they can identify vulnerable students and refer them to support programs. A hotline will also be set up for people needing advice on how to help young people who may be exposed to violent extremist influences. You don't know whether to laugh or cry, it is just so utterly absurd. Not even George Orwell could have envisioned this insanity in his wildest dreams. And all the while the politicians are letting yet more thousands of Muslims pour into the country each year. It's farcical. I don't know what to do. Just forget about it and worry about my patch and family or fight. The fight will probably come anyway.

You can get a flight to Istanbul and travel overland. If DFAT tries to cancel your passport, tell them you’re from Western Sydney.

That should do the trick.

... wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:34pm:

It is the same all across the Anglosphere - life has been too good and too comfortable for so long, that softcockery has become endemic.  When softcocks abound, predators will start sniffing around.  But let us not forget that the muselman is a parasite, not an apex predator.  When the softness of the cock has been cured, the muselman will be dealt with effortlessly.  The traitors within must be the priority.

I can't help but think that the greedy billionaires up the top like the division. A big mixed market place of division with no solidarity or threat to them. I think this whole thing is planned.

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:36pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:28pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:23pm: Specialist teams and trained counsellors will identify students at risk of radicalisation and help to counter violent extremism in schools as part of a $47 million package developed by the Baird government. Five expert teams will be deployed across NSW schools to respond to incidents of violent extremism and help schools that have been "identified" as being at risk. The teams, which will cost about $15 million, include former principals, psychologists and student support workers and will help schools to develop strategies. Counsellors and teaching staff will have access to extra support and training from the start of the 2016 school year, to give them skills to identify students at risk. As part of the measures, 200 extra counsellors will be recruited and trained so that they can identify vulnerable students and refer them to support programs. A hotline will also be set up for people needing advice on how to help young people who may be exposed to violent extremist influences. You don't know whether to laugh or cry, it is just so utterly absurd. Not even George Orwell could have envisioned this insanity in his wildest dreams. And all the while the politicians are letting yet more thousands of Muslims pour into the country each year. It's farcical. I don't know what to do. Just forget about it and worry about my patch and family or fight. The fight will probably come anyway. You can get a flight to Istanbul and travel overland. If DFAT tries to cancel your passport, Homo, tell them you’re from Western Sydney. That should do the trick.

Not there love. Here. Maybe go on a march one day. The Russians are sorting them maggots out over there. ISIS are crapping themselves or marching on Europe.

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

What about Europe Herbert?? They don't know who's coming in. ISIS are probably pouring in. Dumb do-gooders.

If some of these ISIS infiltrators could do a little bombing and destruction in Germany then this would provide the impetus for a People's Uprising against government Leftwing policy.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:42pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:26pm: What about Europe Herbert?? They don't know who's coming in. ISIS are probably pouring in. Dumb do-gooders. If some of these ISIS infiltrators could do a little bombing and destruction in Germany then this would provide the impetus for a People's Uprising against government Leftwing policy.

I was watching an alarming thing the other day. They busted some Russians trying to sell plutonium to the jihadists. I hope it's a car bomb and not something huge. The Europeans don't know the danger they are in. ISIS seem to think big . Most of what has happened here have been from asylum seekers.

... wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:34pm:

It is the same all across the Anglosphere - life has been too good and too comfortable for so long, that softcockery has become endemic.  When softcocks abound, predators will start sniffing around.  But let us not forget that the muselman is a parasite, not an apex predator.  When the softness of the cock has been cured, the muselman will be dealt with effortlessly.  The traitors within must be the priority.

You’ve been to Rotto again, haven’t you, Honky?

Forgive me, but you jihadis do come back sounding ever so cranky. Back in my day we had Nam, but at least we kept our sense of humour.

I’m a bit worried your generation might have become a bit jaded and bitter. I mean, you’ve seen so much suffering. It’s perfectly understandable.

Rotto is hell.

47 million?  In one state?  How many Muslims in NSW? 

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:47pm:

47 million?  In one state?  How many Muslims in NSW?

most of them.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:42pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:26pm: What about Europe Herbert?? They don't know who's coming in. ISIS are probably pouring in. Dumb do-gooders. If some of these ISIS infiltrators could do a little bombing and destruction in Germany then this would provide the impetus for a People's Uprising against government Leftwing policy.

I knew there was some Vichy in you, Herb. Arbeit macht frei, no?

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:47pm:

47 million?  In one state?  How many Muslims in NSW?

Good question. Herb’s staying mum on that. At the moment, the 47 mil is a bit of a mystery.

Let’s hope it goes to the church, eh? Maybe we can baptise them.

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:53pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:47pm: 47 million?  In one state?  How many Muslims in NSW?  Good question. Herb’s staying mum on that. At the moment, the 47 mil is a bit of a mystery. Let’s hope it goes to the church, eh? Maybe we can baptise them.

  ::) 

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:46pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:42pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:26pm: What about Europe Herbert?? They don't know who's coming in. ISIS are probably pouring in. Dumb do-gooders. If some of these ISIS infiltrators could do a little bombing and destruction in Germany then this would provide the impetus for a People's Uprising against government Leftwing policy. I was watching an alarming thing the other day. They busted some Russians trying to sell plutonium to the jihadists. I hope it's a car bomb and not something huge. The Europeans don't know the danger they are in. ISIS seem to think big . Most of what has happened here have been from asylum seekers.

You know? I agree. While certain.people here like to krap on about Bangladeshis, ISIS are the most hostile, barbaric regime I can think of since the Khmer Rouge.

The problem is, we’re essentially powerless in such a massive humanitarian crisis. We can give aid to support the refugees, but any military solution we engage in is bound to fail.

This is an Arab problem to solve, just as the Khmer Rouge was ousted by its newly liberated neighbour Vietnam, Which saved countless lives.

Uncle and its friends had no role in that, even though they unintentionally created Pol Pot.

And make no mistake, our actions created ISIS too.

Who is responsible for letting these Muslim idiots come here?

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:36pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:28pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:23pm: Specialist teams and trained counsellors will identify students at risk of radicalisation and help to counter violent extremism in schools as part of a $47 million package developed by the Baird government. Five expert teams will be deployed across NSW schools to respond to incidents of violent extremism and help schools that have been "identified" as being at risk. The teams, which will cost about $15 million, include former principals, psychologists and student support workers and will help schools to develop strategies. Counsellors and teaching staff will have access to extra support and training from the start of the 2016 school year, to give them skills to identify students at risk. As part of the measures, 200 extra counsellors will be recruited and trained so that they can identify vulnerable students and refer them to support programs. A hotline will also be set up for people needing advice on how to help young people who may be exposed to violent extremist influences. You don't know whether to laugh or cry, it is just so utterly absurd. Not even George Orwell could have envisioned this insanity in his wildest dreams. And all the while the politicians are letting yet more thousands of Muslims pour into the country each year. It's farcical. I don't know what to do. Just forget about it and worry about my patch and family or fight. The fight will probably come anyway. You can get a flight to Istanbul and travel overland. If DFAT tries to cancel your passport, Homo, tell them you’re from Western Sydney. That should do the trick. Not there love. Here. Maybe go on a march one day. The Russians are sorting them maggots out over there. ISIS are crapping themselves or marching on Europe.

How dumb is this? The Russians ar e defending a rival contractor’s gas pipeline deal - a deal worth hundreds of billions.

You tell me what we’re spending that 47 mil on Homo, and I’ll fill you in on the market for European gas.

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:47pm:

47 million?  In one state?  How many Muslims in NSW?

I think we have around 400,000 muslims is Australia so this is only just over $100 for every muslim.

Just add this 47 million to the other welfare and dept of housing costs along with their high jail rates,what a productive or is it parasitic bunch of immigrants we have depending on your beliefs.

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:47pm:

... wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:34pm: It is the same all across the Anglosphere - life has been too good and too comfortable for so long, that softcockery has become endemic.  When softcocks abound, predators will start sniffing around.  But let us not forget that the muselman is a parasite, not an apex predator.  When the softness of the cock has been cured, the muselman will be dealt with effortlessly.  The traitors within must be the priority. You’ve been to Rotto again, haven’t you, Honky? Forgive me, but you jihadis do come back sounding ever so cranky. Back in my day we had Nam, but at least we kept our sense of humour. I’m a bit worried your generation might have become a bit jaded and bitter. I mean, you’ve seen so much suffering. It’s perfectly understandable. Rotto is hell.

Rottnest Island.

"The rottenest isand I've ever been to"  Paul McCartney

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:14pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:47pm: 47 million?  In one state?  How many Muslims in NSW?  I think we have around 400,000 muslims is Australia so this is only just over $100 for every muslim. Just add this 47 million to the other welfare and dept of housing costs along with their high jail rates,what a productive or is it parasitic bunch of immigrants we have depending on your beliefs.

But think of the diversity. 

If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time.

I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say.

Loose lips sink ships, eh?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:47pm: ... wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:34pm: It is the same all across the Anglosphere - life has been too good and too comfortable for so long, that softcockery has become endemic.  When softcocks abound, predators will start sniffing around.  But let us not forget that the muselman is a parasite, not an apex predator.  When the softness of the cock has been cured, the muselman will be dealt with effortlessly.  The traitors within must be the priority. You’ve been to Rotto again, haven’t you, Honky? Forgive me, but you jihadis do come back sounding ever so cranky. Back in my day we had Nam, but at least we kept our sense of humour. I’m a bit worried your generation might have become a bit jaded and bitter. I mean, you’ve seen so much suffering. It’s perfectly understandable. Rotto is hell. Rottnest Island. "The rottenest isand I've ever been to"  Paul McCartney

And swamped by Muslims, no less. Forget Homo’s street, Honky can’t move without bumping into one.

In the fullness of time...

I've an idea!

Why don't we say that all the 'problems' we're having with Muslims don't exist?

It's all about the 'alienation' that all new arrivals to this country experience and it is no different to the trials and tribulations that greeted all those who slaved away when offered a refuge from the horrors of WW2. It's the same bleat from every country in which they establish themselves.

Muslims. of course, are different! They are not Germans or Yugoslavs or Syrians or Lebanese or Pakistani. To be sure, they are not Jewish - something all Muslims can agree upon. Or Christian, for that matter.

I thank my Christian God, to whom I pay less respect than he is due, that I will hopefully avoid the next confrontation for world domination.

It'll be one of two things:

* the Second American Revolution

* the Coalition against the next Caliphate

I have high hopes for this continent, it lies a looooong row from anywhere when the fit hits the shan.

If we're careful, we could survive a world war.

We just have to weed out out the anti-Aussies beforehand.

8-)

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:46pm:

I was watching an alarming thing the other day. They busted some Russians trying to sell plutonium to the jihadists. I hope it's a car bomb and not something huge. The Europeans don't know the danger they are in. ISIS seem to think big . Most of what has happened here have been from asylum seekers.

Every Muslim is honour-bound to support any actions that brings the Islamisation of Western societies closer to reality.

There is no such entity as a 'Moderate' Muslim. It's tantamount to apostasy for a Muslim not to support actions that are designed to bring Islam to predominance in the lands of the infidel.

Every Muslim brought into Australia by our successive Vichy governments is a White Ant who weakens the foundations of our institutions and our Western Judaeo-Christian heritage.

Our smiling politicians who we see on our television sets are traitors to our future generations.

One can only hope that in the fullness of time certain agents working on our behalf will seek out these quislings and deliver the justice they so richly deserve.



   

Yes, but there is such a thing as a moderate Herbie. We’ve seen him.

Google: taqiyya.

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:03am:

Yes, but there is such a thing as a moderate Herbie. We’ve seen him.

The representatives of the 'faux' so-called Moderate Muslims gave Tony Abbott a blasting every time he announced a new initiative to fight home-grown terrorism or stop the boats.

Muslim whinging and whining is what Abbott and Morrison had to put up with all through their partnership in trying to bring some semblance of order to The Muslim Problem.

They were hounded by the Muslim Community Leaders every step of the way while looking for a Final Solution to The Muslim Problem ... just as when Muslims will finally predominate in Australia they will be discussing The Final Solution to The Homosexual Problem that is in plague proportions in this country.

And if that doesn't chill the cockles of yours and gregg's heart - then it's time you both woke up to yourselves.

That midnight knock on the door won't be Santa Claus coming to put a vibrator in your Christmas stocking ...
   

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

[quote author=Karnal link=1446495330/94#94 date=1446674625] ... just as when Muslims will finally predominate in Australia they will be discussing The Final Solution to The Homosexual Problem that is in plague proportions in this country.

And you'll be joining up - in the fullness of time.

Allah Uakbar, no?

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:21pm:

If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh?

Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal.

Who's Chris Baird?

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:52am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird?

Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

That midnight knock on the door won't be Santa Claus coming to put a vibrator in your Christmas stocking ...

Who will it be?

Sir Booby?

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:52am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird?

Christopher Patrick "Chris" Baird is a Northern Irish footballer who plays for Championship side Derby County and the Northern Ireland national football team.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians.

No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details.

You know, like "billions".

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions".

Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact.

I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism.

One of those little details.

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:11am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact. I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism. One of those little details.

I posted this before. This was the cost up until 2011. geez!!!!!

As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan.

A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:17am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:15am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:11am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact. I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism. One of those little details. I posted this before. This was the cost up until 2011. geez!!!!! As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan. A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response.

What's that got to do with Irish football?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:23am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:17am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:15am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:11am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact. I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism. One of those little details. I posted this before. This was the cost up until 2011. geez!!!!! As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan. A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response. What's that got to do with Irish football?

Chris Baird might be in the IRA doofus.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:23am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:17am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:15am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:11am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact. I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism. One of those little details. I posted this before. This was the cost up until 2011. geez!!!!! As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan. A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response. What's that got to do with Irish football? Chris Baird might be in the IRA doofus.

So, not all terrorists are Muslims?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:34am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:24am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:23am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:17am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:15am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:11am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact. I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism. One of those little details. I posted this before. This was the cost up until 2011. geez!!!!! As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan. A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response. What's that got to do with Irish football? Chris Baird might be in the IRA doofus. So, not all terrorists are Muslims?

Not always, just most of the time.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:34am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:24am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:23am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:17am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:15am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:11am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact. I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism. One of those little details. I posted this before. This was the cost up until 2011. geez!!!!! As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan. A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response. What's that got to do with Irish football? Chris Baird might be in the IRA doofus. So, not all terrorists are Muslims? Not always, just most of the time.

Ah, now we're getting somewhere.

And, not all Muslims are terrorists?

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:17am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:15am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:11am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact. I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism. One of those little details. I posted this before. This was the cost up until 2011. geez!!!!! As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan. A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response.

1.5 billion in foreign aid is not targeting Australian Muslim terrorists, Homo.

Nor does 10.4 billion on "extra security". Much of this will be spent on IT in the plan to "modernize" surveillance. It's part of the Abbott "security" legislation which includes data retention, a policy that terrorism is largely an excuse for. Much of this plan is about spying on foreign governments - the "five eyes" pact Australia is an active member of. Much of it is about spying on ordinary citizens, including (and especially) journalists. 

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:23am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:17am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:15am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:11am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:07am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:58am: Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:52am: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:49am: Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:21pm: If I’m not mistaken, Baron, that’s just what Herbie’s trying to do - add that 47 mill into another spending measure. For all we know, Herb could have made that figure up. It’s an old trick - he does it all the time. I could be wrong, of course, but Herbie won’t say. Loose lips sink ships, eh? Herbert didn't make the $47 million figure up. Chris Baird announced it. Look it up Karnal. Who's Chris Baird? Sorry Mike Baird sugar puff. Shows how much I care about politicians. No, Homo, it shows how much you care about details. You know, like "billions". Billions have been spent in Australia  fighting  domestic Islamic terrorism honey bunch. Look it up. That's  a fact. I have looked it up, Homo. Your own source said we've spent 30 billion in foreign wars, not domestic terrorism. One of those little details. I posted this before. This was the cost up until 2011. geez!!!!! As well, $1.5 billion has been spent on aid to Iraq and Afghanistan. A further $10.4 billion has been spent on extra security at home, mainly on the federal police and ASIO, the domestic spy agency - in a ''whole-of-government'' response. What's that got to do with Irish football? Chris Baird might be in the IRA doofus.

He might have converted to Islam, Homo.

That could work.

Why troll threads like an idiot ?

He Man wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 11:57am:

Why troll threads like an idiot ?

Poor old Karnal doesn't like people picking on Muslims He Man.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:07pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:57am: Why troll threads like an idiot ? Poor old Karnal doesn't like people picking on Muslims He Man.

Awe the Poor Darling, I thought he was just dedicated to making an ass of them by posting like a fool as one.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:07pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:57am: Why troll threads like an idiot ? Poor old Karnal doesn't like people picking on Muslims He Man.

Or tree-loppers, Homo, don't forget them.

He Man wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 2:07pm: He Man wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:57am: Why troll threads like an idiot ? Poor old Karnal doesn't like people picking on Muslims He Man. Awe the Poor Darling, I thought he was just dedicated to making an ass of them by posting like a fool as one.

She's an angry old girl He Man. It gets hot under that burqa in the Western Sydney heat.

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 2:07pm: He Man wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:57am: Why troll threads like an idiot ? Poor old Karnal doesn't like people picking on Muslims He Man. Or tree-loppers, Homo, don't forget them.

Tree-loppers with goat meat     ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:29pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 2:07pm: He Man wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 11:57am: Why troll threads like an idiot ? Poor old Karnal doesn't like people picking on Muslims He Man. Or tree-loppers, Homo, don't forget them. Tree-loppers with goat meat     ::)

Typical.

With Muslims it's always something - if it's not the crusades then it's the cartoons.

Soren wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

With Muslims it's always something - if it's not the crusades then it's the cartoons.

Anything to revel in garbage. No moral compass at all just  psychopathic tendencies. One retard cries allah snackbar and the rest start tearing their shirts off beating their breasts not even knowing why, burning cars and wailing and going berserk.

I can't believe we have let these cretins set up shop in this country. Worse are the moronic pc loons who paved the way for them, sooked and cried about them and throw tantrums that we should let more in. Totally oblivious to their forced ignorance of what they have done to the poor countries that they have already infested.

Soren wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

With Muslims it's always something - if it's not the crusades then it's the cartoons.

http://cartoons.internet-share.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2015/01/tumblr_nhwqq3Ugyy1u7jsm4o1_500.jpg

That sums up the rodents nicely.

... wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 8:52pm: With Muslims it's always something - if it's not the crusades then it's the cartoons. http://cartoons.internet-share.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2015/01/tumblr_nhwqq3Ugyy1u7jsm4o1_500.jpg

If it's not the crusades or cartoons then it's beards:

http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/beardo55_thumb.png