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Title: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Labor voter on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 12:59pm

Voters must have an intense dislike of asylum seekers.

The latest Morgan Poll is great for the government, which sees them leading the opposition 56.5/43.5.

Taking away personalities (ie, disregarding that many people obviously like Malcolm Turnbull), it really is hard to see what the government has going for them.

If re-elected, they will make life harder or more miserable for near on all of the population. “Yes we can” says the poster. And yes they will. For example, if re-elected they:

[list bull-blacksq]

will be doing nothing to address climate change

will possibly increase the GST, costing each family about $4,000 a year

will continue to ignore science of any description

will be doing nothing about housing affordability

will be doing nothing about the high unemployment levels

will be providing us with internet speeds that are the worst in the world

will continue to tighten the screws for people on welfare or income support

will still be giving billions to the mining companies

they will do nothing about the huge gap in wealth inequality (quite the opposite, they will continue to pander to the rich)

will do nothing to help the disadvantaged in our society (they will probably cut funding even further)

will continue to beat around the bush as far as same-sex marriage goes

have intentions of changing the media ownership laws which will give Murdoch even more control of our media (and they’ll probably cut funding to the ABC even further)

will continue to demonise innocent people (Gillian Triggs is a good example)

will make it more costly to see a doctor or a specialist

if economists are correct, the government will lead us into a recession

will keep ripping coal out of our beautiful country – coal that nobody wants

will make tertiary education unaffordable

will strip away our citizenship if (as a dual citizen) we do as much as destroy a government owned coffee table

will spy on our every movement

will jail anybody who dares report on atrocities committed by the government

. . . and on and on the list goes

But . . . they will keep telling us that they’ve stopped the boats and we’re safe from all those murderous would-be terrorists that did sneak through because they’re all locked up now on Nauru or Manus Island and with any luck they will either rot to death or be sent to a country with an unpronounceable name where they can perish without our knowledge.

And no matter how much misery this Coalition government casts over our own lives we will vote for them because of their asylum seekers policies.

And it’s got me beat.

theaimn.com/why-would-anybody-want-to-re-elect-this-government/

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kat on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:04pm

Conservative right-wing government is NEVER good government.

Never has been, very unlikely ever TO be.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by John Smith on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:05pm

Why vote for a liberal government

because

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kat on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:07pm

Australia NEEDS a centre-left socialist government, whether the rightards like it or not.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Sir Crook on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:11pm

Why vote to get rid of low income workers penalty rates?. If weekend penalty rates are important for you, then don't vote liberal. :(

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:19pm

They believe one day they will be in that 1% that earn all the wealth and pay no tax :D

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:27pm

Interesting opinion piece; I prefer Pickering.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:48pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Interesting opinion piece; I prefer Pickering.

I'm sure you do.

"Pickering is commonly known as a cartoonist, but he's also an inveterate liar, a bankrupt conman with a seedy history of fleecing the gullible of millions of dollars while not paying his own bills."

http://www.smh.com.au/business/larry-pickering--the-conman-stalking-gillard-20120820-24hxi.html

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:49pm

SMH prints it so it must be true!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:56pm

"Pickering embroiled in sports bet scam"

http://www.gambleinvestigations.com/gii-media/television/115-pickering-embroiled-in-sports-bet-scam.html

"Larry Pickering is well-known for being a fraudster, scam artist and con man who’s latest scam cost people an estimated $15 million."

http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2012/08/19/larry-pickering-who-ripped-of-15million-in-a-betting-software-scam-claims-to-be-investigating-julia-gillard-for-the-awu-fraud-scam/

"Australian cartoonist Larry Pickering now stands accused of being involved in a sports betting operation in which more than 100 investors lost their life savings."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/larry-pickering-accused-of-being-involved-in-a-sports-betting-operation-millions-allegedly-lost/story-e6freuy9-1226167989738

"Also if you Google – Larry Pickering , Harry Omeros , and Alan Davenport you can find a whole heap of information about these characters as well as the many others that are also involved.

"This is Organized Crime and corruption at the highest level , and people need to be aware and warned about what is happening on the Gold Coast in this so – called Democracy of ours."

http://aussiecriminals.com.au/scam-alert/

A low-life POS.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:04pm

Still, more honest than Shorten.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:06pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

Still, more honest than Shorten.

Defending criminals.

Charming.

Not surprising, though.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:09pm

Voting for criminals.
Predictable.
Standard brainwashed leftard way.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Muttley on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:13pm

The alternative is too horrendous to imagine.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:15pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:09pm:

Voting for criminals.

That's true.

You voted for one, and you like to read the verbal diarrhea from another.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:19pm

Critical of dishonest journals aren't you Mr Photo-shop Man?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kat on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:13pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Interesting opinion piece; I prefer Pickering.

Considering Pickering is an ignorant, bigoted SOB, that doesn't surprise me in the least.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by innocentbystander. on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:15pm

Kat wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:13pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Interesting opinion piece; I prefer Pickering.

Considering Pickering is an ignorant, bigoted SOB, that doesn't surprise me in the least.

At least he doesn't want to murder people because they don't think the same way he does ... unlike you.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kat on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:15pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 2:09pm:

Voting for criminals.
Predictable.
Standard brainwashed leftard way.

No, WE don't vote for neo-con scum.

That'd be YOU lot.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:16pm

Well, we all know Labor's got the welfare vote sewn up.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kat on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:16pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:13pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Interesting opinion piece; I prefer Pickering.

Considering Pickering is an ignorant, bigoted SOB, that doesn't surprise me in the least.

At least he doesn't want to murder people because they don't think the same way he does ... unlike you.

Far cough.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:21pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:13pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:27pm:

Interesting opinion piece; I prefer Pickering.

Considering Pickering is an ignorant, bigoted SOB, that doesn't surprise me in the least.

At least he doesn't want to murder people because they don't think the same way he does ... unlike you.

So, as long as he doesn't want to murder anyone, you turn a blind eye to Pickering's illegal and immoral activities.

Got it.

Seems to be a lot of criminal apologists in here today.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Labor voter on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:41pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Do you know anything about how federal parliament works?

When you vote in a federal election you vote for a party to govern for 3 years not 4 years

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Labor voter on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:46pm

Isn't funny, I put this post up at 1.00 pm and not one member who supports the government, has come on and defended what the liberal government is going to do.

They try to take the thread off course and bring up Pickering who is not ever mention in the opening post.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:50pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

What do you have against asylum seekers?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Do you know anything about how federal parliament works?

When you vote in a federal election you vote for a party to govern for 3 years not 4 years

I don't vote numpty.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:50pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

What do you have against asylum seekers?

I'm not telling.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:59pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Do you know anything about how federal parliament works?

When you vote in a federal election you vote for a party to govern for 3 years not 4 years

I don't vote numpty.

"You will be disqualified from voting in an election if:

"you are in prison serving a sentence of three years or more

"you are of unsound mind (incapable of understanding the nature and significance of voting);

"you have been convicted of treason or treachery and have not been pardoned." AEC

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Do you know anything about how federal parliament works?

When you vote in a federal election you vote for a party to govern for 3 years not 4 years

I don't vote numpty.

Wrong wrong and wrong. I'll tell you why I hate people smuggling. I want planned immigration and I hate the idea of people forcing their way into my country.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by innocentbystander. on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:21pm:

So, as long as he doesn't want to murder anyone, you turn a blind eye to Pickering's illegal and immoral activities.

Got it.

I also turn a blind eye to you going after other forum members families including their children, accusing everyone you don't agree with of being a pedophile, and telling forum members you have engaged in disgusting sex acts with their mothers, some of whom are deceased.

Is this the subset of your personality that defines you?, I don't think it is, its just the result of being wrong and being unable to see that you are wrong leading to frustration and an irrational outburst.

Pickering may have done some nefarious sh!t but that doesn't preclude him from making a statement today that may be correct, same go's for you, just because you claim to have had anal sex with another forum members mother today doesn't mean that something you say tomorrow could quite possibly make perfect sense.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:04pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:21pm:

So, as long as he doesn't want to murder anyone, you turn a blind eye to Pickering's illegal and immoral activities.

Got it.

I also turn a blind eye to you ... accusing everyone you don't agree with of being a pedophile

Telling lies won't win you any friends.

Mods, take note.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:06pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:21pm:

So, as long as he doesn't want to murder anyone, you turn a blind eye to Pickering's illegal and immoral activities.

Got it.

Poor old Pecca has a heart full of hate. He can't help it.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:08pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:50pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

What do you have against asylum seekers?

I'm not telling.

Why not?

"An asylum seeker is a person who has fled from his or her own country due to fear of persecution".

Do you like the idea of people being persecuted?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:50pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

What do you have against asylum seekers?

I'm not telling.

Why not?

"An asylum seeker is a person who has fled from his or her own country due to fear of persecution".

Do you like the idea of people being persecuted?

Tell me how their claims of persecution are proven?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by davo on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:15pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 12:59pm:

will be doing nothing to address climate change

will possibly increase the GST, costing each family about $4,000 a year

will continue to ignore science of any description

will be doing nothing about housing affordability

will be doing nothing about the high unemployment levels

will be providing us with internet speeds that are the worst in the world

will continue to tighten the screws for people on welfare or income support

will still be giving billions to the mining companies

they will do nothing about the huge gap in wealth inequality (quite the opposite, they will continue to pander to the rich)

will do nothing to help the disadvantaged in our society (they will probably cut funding even further)

will continue to beat around the bush as far as same-sex marriage goes

have intentions of changing the media ownership laws which will give Murdoch even more control of our media (and they’ll probably cut funding to the ABC even further)

will continue to demonise innocent people (Gillian Triggs is a good example)

will make it more costly to see a doctor or a specialist

if economists are correct, the government will lead us into a recession

will keep ripping coal out of our beautiful country – coal that nobody wants

will make tertiary education unaffordable

will strip away our citizenship if (as a dual citizen) we do as much as destroy a government owned coffee table

will spy on our every movement

will jail anybody who dares report on atrocities committed by the government

Why did labor rubber stamp the libs polices on metadata, potential gaol for those who speak on the conditions in offshore gulags, the basics card.liberal voters don't question their partys bad policy, labor voters do. enjoy opposition labor you deserve it.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:16pm

KABUL, Afghanistan – Afghanistan will take back all its citizens to be deported from Germany as the European country struggles to accommodate hundreds of thousands of refugees and other asylum seekers who have arrived there this year, a Kabul official said.

Afghans currently make up the second largest nationality, after Syrians, arriving in Europe. So far this year, an estimated 120,000 Afghans have left the country, legally and illegally, according to authorities. The International Organization of Migration says more than 76,000 Afghans have traveled to Europe so far in 2015.

Germany, a longtime contributor to international forces in Afghanistan and with currently 944 soldiers in NATO's support and training mission there, has increasingly been feeling the pressure of the rising numbers of people coming in.

Last week, Germany's interior minister complained of an "unacceptable" influx of Afghans from relatively safe areas of their country, and warned that many of them would have to return home. The minister, Thomas de Maiziere, said Afghans arriving in Germany included "increasing numbers of members of the middle class — including many from Kabul."

It isn't clear how many Afghans Germany might try to send back. However, German officials have been keen to stress that only people genuinely fleeing war and persecution are entitled to asylum, and that economic refugees must leave the country. Fewer than half of the Afghans who apply for asylum in Germany are granted it.

As a signatory to the Geneva Convention, Afghanistan is obliged to accept its citizens whose asylum applications have been rejected, deputy presidential spokesman Zafar Hashemi said, adding that President Ashraf Ghani and German Chancellor Angela Merkel discussed the issue recently.

Afghan Minister for Refugees and Repatriation Hossain Alemi Balkhi has disapproved of Germany's decision to return the Afghans, saying in a recent interview with The Associated Press that Kabul is "against the forced exile of any people from any country back to where they came from."

"The problem that caused them to leave Afghanistan in the first place has not been solved — there is still war, conflict, insecurity," he said.

However, the minister's international adviser, Rohullah Hashimi, said Monday that Ghani's decision will be implemented and that a reintegration plan for voluntary refugees would be extended to deportees.

Human Rights Watch, the New York-based watchdog organization, said forced deportations were "not the answer" to Afghanistan's migration situation.

"The answer lies in creating conditions that encourage people to stay," said Patti Grossman, HRW's Afghanistan researcher. "That means addressing the failure to create a stable state based on the rule of law and good governance."

"Forcing people who may have legitimate protection needs to return, when conditions in much of the country are slipping back into conflict and when the government has not yet been able to adequately address the needs of those returning from Pakistan and Iran, is not the answer," she added.

The Taliban have fought a particularly vicious warm-weather offensive this year, testing the capabilities of Afghan forces following the international combat troops' departure at the end of last year. In late September, they seized the northern city of Kunduz, the first provincial capital the insurgents have taken since 2001. Government forces fought for more than two weeks to reclaim the city, a reflection of their weaknesses in offensive capabilities.

President Barack Obama announced in the wake of the Kunduz fight that he would leave U.S. troops in Afghanistan at current levels of 9,800 through 2016, rather than halving the figure at the end of this year.

From safe parts of the country???? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
increasing numbers of members of the middle class — including many from Kabul." ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:24pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:50pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

A vote for the Liberal Party is 4 more years without people smugglers and asylum seekers. Poor leftards. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

What do you have against asylum seekers?

I'm not telling.

Why not?

"An asylum seeker is a person who has fled from his or her own country due to fear of persecution".

Do you like the idea of people being persecuted?

Tell me how their claims of persecution are proven?

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/asylum-seekers-and-refugees/asylum-seekers-and-refugees-guide#process

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:25pm

The poor farks dodging IEDs are sticking it out and the middle class Afghans with money are abandoning ship??? What a joke. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

The poor farks dodging IEDs are sticking it out and the middle class Afghans with money are abandoning ship??? What a joke. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How is it a joke?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:27pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

The poor farks dodging IEDs are sticking it out and the middle class Afghans with money are abandoning ship??? What a joke. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How is it a joke?

I don't care what you think. Germany is about to go through all these claims and send most of them home. Just like what we should have done. You just wait and see.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:44pm

Why vote for a Liberal government

Superior economic management , nope can't use that one

Keep their promises , nope not that one either

Approving new major mining projects , nope

Job Stability , nope

Preserving penalty rates , nope

Im lost , why would you vote for the Libs?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by innocentbystander. on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:04pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:21pm:

So, as long as he doesn't want to murder anyone, you turn a blind eye to Pickering's illegal and immoral activities.

Got it.

I also turn a blind eye to you ... accusing everyone you don't agree with of being a pedophile

Telling lies won't win you any friends.

Mods, take note.

Denying your misdeeds like they did not even happen will not make you a better person, do you even want to be a better person?, probably not, running to the mods with your tail between your legs is no answer either, you need to man up, acknowledge that you have succumbed to evil, then apologise and make amends, this is the only way you will gain real self respect, telling people that you f--cked their dead mother is no way to get respect, unless you want respect from deranged psychos that is, and I'm sure you don't.

I implore you to stop having sick fantasies about the wives and children of your fellow board members here, its not a healthy pursuit and it will only distract you from putting forth a real sensible argument.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:18pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

Why vote for a liberal government

because

libs don't even hate asylum seekers: they just think they're a cut above!

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:19pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

--> rates of change now is it ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kiron22 on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm

The reason people vote Liberal is largely because they've been trained that the Liberals are the "Default, stable" Government of Australia and Labor is the "Challenger, Chaotic" Government. All political narrative in Australian media really boils down to this. Labor have to PROVE they deserve Government beyond a doubt, or people will just hand it to the Liberals for no other reason than "Its stable".

Its why Labor are flogged so much harder in the media than the Liberals. Lets be honest here, it was getting to the point when Gillard was in Government where elements of the mainstream media were calling for her assassination and overthrow, but what in **** did Gillard do what was so bad? 1 misquoted carbon tax "lie"? Wow, I remember entire political forums and meetings just being filled with idiots going "Why did you lie, Juliar? Why did you lie?" In fact, at one point I was actually going to meet Julia Gillard to debate Australian drug policy during the last rounds of widespread drug debate in the media, but literally I was drowned out by "Juliar, carbon tax lie" idiots that took up all the time and thus she wasn't able to discuss with me issues around our drug policy (which I had actually spent months talking to doctors, scientists and journalists about researching for).

So Julia Gillard, one of the single most successful Prime Ministers in our country had calls for her murder from politicians and media, while Abbott got lets be honest "Oh Abbott, hes kind of stupid, oh well". WHAT THE ****?!? Imagine if Gillard did 10% of the stupid of Abbott and co? She would be 6 ft under right now. Look at the media blackout on NBN, 50 billion+ down the drain and not a single ABC report on it for over 2 years, they didn't even allow NBN questions on QandA to Turnbull. Get that!? The largest infrastructure project and disaster in Australian history, and ABC didn't allow questions on NBN, in fact when criticized, ABC wrote in an official letter that "the debate is settled on MTM being the superior technology" I s*** you not, in an official ABC letter.

Everyone with a brain knows that Labor has far superior policy to Liberals (what policy do the Liberals have that isn't utter s*** really?) but because Shorten isn't a literal paragon of just holiness, there is no way Labor can win the election because of the absolutely insane standards they are held too.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:33pm

Vote Liberal?.....eeeew!!! never, I have a conscience.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:36pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

And ? If Malcolm is true to his word he will run a full term , still a little early to be counting all your chickens , especially after your QLD prediction ;)

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by stunspore on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:37pm

Hmmm.... I think what libs have in spades is faith. Faith that is a duplicate to Tony Abbott's. They don't question climate change science - they have faith that it is simply a conspiracy. They are happy to fly on planes built with science but don't take a leap of faith and jump off a cliff to see if God will carry them.

But enough of the shallow analysis. They believe in certain "liberal ideals" and cling on to it despite all evidence to the contrary that it is negative to majority of mankind (or in Australia).

Free markets? Hardly because libs protect the big end of businesses. FTAs are great examples.

Oh well. Can't do much. I have voted for libs, labs, greens, democrats and independents. I have always looked at each policy promoted as well as the data/evidence presented to me. So far I fail to see why I should vote for Lib next election.

What has the lib government done that is so great?
Asylum seekers stopped? Big deal. An impact that does very little for the great majority of Australia. Is the money spent a big percentage of economy? No.
Carbon tax? Well most economists I read up has pointed out it is more efficient than direct action.
NBN rollout? Sorry hardly any better and probably lot worse when it was under labor.
No cuts to XXX? Well there were cuts.
Too many to list. Probably Turnbull might make positive changes, but it better be fast.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by issuevoter on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:37pm

List your priorities. Take the most important first and work through to the least. Vote accordingly, but if you vote Labor because you hate the Liberals, you are an idiot. And vice versa.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:39pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

telling people that you f--cked their dead mother .

More lies.

I'd quit now, while you're behind, if I were you.

Mods, take note.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kiron22 on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:46pm

oh dear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:15pm:

Labor deserve opposition for Liberal policies?

I agree, massive bullcrap they backed these things (then backflipped when realized it pissed off their entire membership) but Liberals hold these policies and much more and worse, at least Labor has good policy.

Vote The Greens really if you are a progressive. It tempers Labors march to the right.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by innocentbystander. on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

telling people that you f--cked their dead mother .

More lies.

I'd quit now, while you're behind, if I were you.

Mods, take note.

Have you sobered up and become embarrassed?, what the hell is wrong with you?, you have two choices here, own up to your actions and make amends or just make out like it never happened, but that may not work, do you really think that the mods here aren't aware of your sick postings?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:50pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

telling people that you f--cked their dead mother .

More lies.

I'd quit now, while you're behind, if I were you.

Mods, take note.

You need to read my posts again.

Telling lies isn't winning you any friends.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Labor voter on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:54pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

I don't vote numpty.

Are you under 18, you are not in prison serving a sentence of three years or more if you were you wouldn't have any internet.

So are you of unsound mind (incapable of understanding the nature and significance of voting);

you have you been convicted of treason or treachery and have not been pardoned.

As you don't vote you have no say in what the government does or doesn't do. So which one are you or should we treat you as a nobody because you haven't got the guts to say that you voted for a political party and they got everything wrong when they are governing for all Australians.

Now be a man and tell us why you don't vote yet you are a member of a political forum, or will you go and hide under a rock now.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:56pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

I don't vote numpty.

That's the one.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:58pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

I don't vote numpty.

I'm telling you nothing. I don't believe in the make up of our political system. I like the Liberals more than the Labor Party though. The Labor Party are a bunch of retards. They are a joke. Everything they touch turns into a mess. I'd like to see them fold up and be replaced by something else.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Bam on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:54pm

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Nailed it.

The MSM have given the Liberals so much of an easier ride than Labor for years. If people were saying half the things about Turnbull that they said about Gillard, it would come as quite a shock to the Liberal nongs.

Turn BULL. Turn BULLSHIT.
Turnbull is a political assassin, responsible for assassinating two Liberal leaders.
Turnbull should be shot and buried at sea.

Exactly the same kind of things that were said about Gillard, recast for Turnbull. Now imagine three YEARS of this kind of unrelenting character assassination. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Of course, Labor are far more moral than the Liberals, which is why Labor are challenging the Liberals on POLICY and not with the personal attacks that are de rigueur for the Coalition.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kat on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:05pm

Bam wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Yep.

One of the most sensible posts I've seen for some time.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kiron22 on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:16pm

The problem here is the morale high ground is a trap. People just expect the Liberals to be sociopathic assholes so when the Libs act like Sociopathic assholes, noone cares and their narrative gets through.

Labor goes on the attack and its "Cheap shots" or "low blow" from Labor.

People on this forum should remember, I'm not a Labor supporter, I actually dislike the Labor party and think they should be absolutely flogged on asylum seeker policy, data retention, lack of action on reforms flagged in the HTR, poor environmental record, internet censorship, absolute appauling politicking on the rights of Homosexuals and Transgendered people, the appalling support of School chaplain program (and Gillard pretending she was religious, how cringy ;D).

From an outsiders view in from someone who doesn't support Labor or Liberal, the media bias towards Liberals, EVEN FROM THE ABC is overwhelming.

The ABC when Gillard was in power was outright just copy-pasting stories from the Australian. It didn't even report on Gillards Misogyny speech until 2 days after it happened (and blew up on social media and international news) then they called it "Whinging". The ABC had a media blockout on NBN for 2 years once changed to MTM while attacking NBN at every opportunity when it was FTTP.

The Canberra Press Gallery has such a bias to the Liberal party its actually amazing people can claim otherwise.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:25pm

Obviously three believers.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:41pm

Bam wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

So what do you think of the Morgan Poll with Libs 56.5/43.5? Feeling pretty good about now?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Honky on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:45pm

There IS no reason to vote for a liberal government, now that they got rid of Abbott. That worm turdball had already signed the papers to sell us all out before he became leader.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kat on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:50pm

... wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:45pm:

There IS no reason to vote for a liberal government, now that they got rid of Abbott. That worm turdball had already signed the papers to sell us all out before he became leader.

There has NEVER been a reason to vote for a Liberal government.

Not a valid reason, anyway.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Honky on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:53pm

Kat wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:50pm:

... wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:45pm:

There IS no reason to vote for a liberal government, now that they got rid of Abbott. That worm turdball had already signed the papers to sell us all out before he became leader.

There has NEVER been a reason to vote for a Liberal government.

Not a valid reason, anyway.

You're right - I have still never voted Liberal, but only because last election I didn't know how important Abbott was. With him gone, all hope is lost.

You idiots have no idea what you've done.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Labor voter on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:23pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

So you like the liberal party more then the labor party.

So why are all these so good for ALL Australians

will be doing nothing to address climate change

will possibly increase the GST, costing each family about $4,000 a year

will continue to ignore science of any description

will be doing nothing about housing affordability

will be doing nothing about the high unemployment levels

will be providing us with internet speeds that are the worst in the world

will continue to tighten the screws for people on welfare or income support

will still be giving billions to the mining companies
they will do nothing about the huge gap in wealth inequality (quite the opposite, they will continue to pander to the rich)

will do nothing to help the disadvantaged in our society (they

will probably cut funding even further)

will continue to beat around the bush as far as same-sex marriage goes

have intentions of changing the media ownership laws which will give Murdoch even more control of our media (and they’ll probably cut funding to the ABC even further)

will continue to demonise innocent people (Gillian Triggs is a good example)

will make it more costly to see a doctor or a specialist
if economists are correct, the government will lead us into a recession

will keep ripping coal out of our beautiful country – coal that nobody wants

will make tertiary education unaffordable

will strip away our citizenship if (as a dual citizen) we do as much as destroy a government owned coffee table

will spy on our every movement

will jail anybody who dares report on atrocities committed by the government

. . . and on and on the list goes

I know you won't answer them because you have no idea at all.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kiron22 on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:27pm

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/03/scott-morrison-encourages-states-to-let-private-sector-run-schools-and-hospitals

Also Morrison is flagging the full privatization of hospitals and schools.

I mean, jesus christ, Abbott wouldn't touch these policies with a 10000ft pole and Turncoat does it and gets a 7 point rise!? Are Australian braindead or what? Talk about leading sheep to the slaughter.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by John Smith on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:22pm

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

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Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Labor voter on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:30pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

Do a bit of research Maria before you post and poll result.

Morgan is usually right. The last one, showing the Coalition on 56.5, though, is peculiar.

It has Labor on 59 percent among 18-24 year olds, and 56.5 percent among 25-34 year olds. These seem to me about right.

Yet it has the Coalition on 58.5 among 35-49 year olds, 60.5 percent among 50-64 year olds, and 65 percent among the over 65s.

Labor was ahead in every age group eight weeks ago. It seems odd that the 35-49 year olds should be such a contrast with the way they were. If, for instance, the sampling was wrong and the 35-49 year olds are 50-50, the whole thing would be more like 50-50, which I think is where it probably is.

There are (sigh) 711,660 18-24 year olds voting or preferring Labor; and of the 25-34 year olds 1,098,000 voting or preferring Labor. If, then, half the 35-50 year olds, that is 1,458,332 were too, the total thus far, 3,267,229, augurs something more like a 50-50 result.

The by-election in Canning, in Turnbull’s first week, showed a swing away from the Liberals of 9 percent. South West Coast a swing of 16 percent away from them. Polwarth a swing of 6 percent.

Something is wrong here. Swings to Labor in reality, and away from Labor in theory.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:08pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:30pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

Shhh , we know longy didnt read it but wanted to string him along for awhile , dont do that again eh ;)

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:57pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

And they continue to support him.

It's a worry.

The guy isn't fit to hold any sort of office, let alone that of PM.

He's unemployable.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by The Grappler on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 12:37am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

And they continue to support him.

It's a worry.

The guy isn't fit to hold any sort of office, let alone that of PM.

He's unemployable.

Really makes you wonder, doesn't it? Trouble is he's not the only one on either side. Getting a gig through the old mate's network doesn't by any stretch of the imagination give us the politicians we deserve, only the politicians they want, who then employ their mates in lucrative jobs at our expense.

Private schools have a lot to answer for....... so does Sydney University which is increasingly looking like a dinosaur out its depth and reliant on the old mate's network as well.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:45am

It's a wonder that you're so critical of Abbott, Pecker. He's a better man than you in every respect. Plus, I'd be fully confident if the situation arose he could kick your teeth in.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by John Smith on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:49am

so 6 pages and still no one has given a good reason to vote liberal?

;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm not surprised

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:58am

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

There have been a couple of test schools where the school was run as if it were a private school. The principal had total control over the budget and could 'hire and fire' teachers and other staff at will. The outcomes were very good. it is in fact, similar to the Finnish model of schools which is world-renowned.

Naturally a collectivist like you is appalled at the notion of individuality or private... anything!

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:02am

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:30pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

There are some problems with your analysis. It is possible that this particular poll is an outlier, but it is also possible that it is a early warning indicator. Either way, Labor is still getting flogged.

The Canning byelection was not what you think. By-elections typically have swings of 3-4% against the incumbent government by virtue of being a by-election and are not reflected in a general election. It was also replacing a well-known and well respected long-term deceased member. That normally costs the new member 5-6% initially. Add them together and there is no real swing to Labor at all or even... a swing to the Libs.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And yet he got to be PM for 2 years while you have achieved virtually nothing. If that is 'failure' most people would be happy to fail!

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Greens_Win on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:05am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:58am:

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

Perhaps the poster could supply a link to these couple of schools.

Oh hang on it's Maria. She doesn't back up her opinions with facts.

As you were.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:07am

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:49am:

so 6 pages and still no one has given a good reason to vote liberal?

;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm not surprised

Wont happen overnight but it will happen

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by John Smith on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:08am

Its time wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:07am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:49am:

so 6 pages and still no one has given a good reason to vote liberal?

;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm not surprised

Wont happen overnight but it will happen

I doubt it

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:10am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And yet he got to be PM for 2 years

Yes.

Quite an astounding outcome, considering his complete lack of skills for the job.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Bam on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:31am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

They would support a turd if it was endorsed by the Liberal party.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Bam on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:35am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

That is a poor reason to vote for any political party. You're better off evaluating the parties' and candidates' policies and choosing candidates from parties that are most closely aligned to your own interests.

Too few people do this. That is why we have the Liberals in office.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kat on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:37am

Bam wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

They would support a turd if it was endorsed by the Liberal party.

And have...

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:40am

Bam wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

They would support a turd if it was endorsed by the Liberal party.

So Bam... how are you handling the Morgan polls? I expect you would normally believe them totally since they often favour the labor party. You better hope they don't STILL favour the labor party or that 60/40 massacre may be closer than you think.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Dnarever on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:55am

Why vote for a liberal government

A recent survey of 100 million people found that the most popular reasons are

1) severe Brain injury.

2) sadomasochism.

3) sociopathy

4) all of the above.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:25am

For the f.v.c.k.i.n.g. millionth time;
getting rid of the job killing carbon and mining taxes
stopping the people smuggling industry
sending foreign dead-sh!ts home
recognising the threat of Islam
restarting the live cattle trade
not forcing gay marriage on Australia
stopping the wasteful spending on things such as green initiatives that don't work and stimulus payments to dead people
cracking down on dole bludgers
the China free trade agreement
defence jobs in South Australia
infrastructure such as Sydney's second airport and important road links in Sydney and Melbourne
cutting funding to those dreadful leeches the ABC and SBS

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:34am

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

stopping the people smuggling industry

It hasn't stopped.

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

not forcing gay marriage on Australia

It won't be compulsory.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 1:33pm

The Liberal Party have all but deterred the people smugglers from coming to Australia. I know gay marriage won't be compulsory, I believe it shouldn't be legal.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Labor voter on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 1:53pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

The Liberal Party have all but deterred the people smugglers from coming to Australia. I know gay marriage won't be compulsory, I believe it shouldn't be legal.

So you are worry about asylum seekers. What have they ever done to you? What is wrong about two people marry if they love one and another? You won't have to marry some one because they are gay no one is holding a gun to your head.

When you start to vote then you can have a say on what the government can do or not do so in the mean time STFU

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 1:55pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

What a bunch of crap. Cut funding to ABC/SBS and farmers in particular would be hit hard.

ChFTA, like all FTAs so far will be bad for Australia. Labor force changes to protect Australian jobs but the Libs hate Australian workers and will find ways around it: they were the party that wanted no labor market testing! Treasonous scum, the Lib party!

Cut the WAY overgenerous tax exemption for super, use some of the $50Bn saved to boost NewStart and run out a REAL NBN. Boost science, encourage R&D and innovation, beg Holden and Toyota to stay and we will be well on the road to recovery.

Get out of ALL our FTAs will help too.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Dnarever on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 1:59pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

So in short a bunch of untrue claims and nothing worth doing anyway.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:03pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 1:53pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

The Liberal Party have all but deterred the people smugglers from coming to Australia. I know gay marriage won't be compulsory, I believe it shouldn't be legal.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:46pm

Farmers would be hit hard by cuts to the ABC/SBS!
;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Labor voter on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:49pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

Farmers would be hit hard by cuts to the ABC/SBS!
;D ;D ;D ;D

Who is cutting money from the ABC and SBS.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:53pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

Farmers would be hit hard by cuts to the ABC/SBS!
;D ;D ;D ;D

Who is cutting money from the ABC and SBS.

I was being sarcastic.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:03pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

Labor voter wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:46pm:

Farmers would be hit hard by cuts to the ABC/SBS!
;D ;D ;D ;D

Who is cutting money from the ABC and SBS.

I was being sarcastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i3puuhDS2E

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:18pm

The ABC religiously bashes farmers.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:44pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

The ABC religiously bashes farmers.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

The ABC religiously bashes farmers.

farmers used to run the country... everyone bashes em cos they're stupid and pretend to not understand that governement agencies keep them in the game via scientific endevour on their behalf!

The nats are a long running joke... the libs know it but need to keep the dumb vote :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:05pm

Why vote for a Liberal Government ?

Mummy and Daddy did :(

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by John Smith on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:07pm

Just a reminder

(/i)Why vote for a liberal government[/i]

because

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:11pm

That's the difference between you and Herb, Pecker. Herb debates; your just a troll who cuts and pastes.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:13pm

Hey Suppository! WRONG!

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:19pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:13pm:

Hey Suppository! WRONG!

Ok why then ?

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:19pm

Its time wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:05pm:

Why vote for a Liberal Government ?

Mummy and Daddy did :(

NAH, PEOPLE JUST THINK NASTY GETS THEM IN THE 'IN' CLUB!

:o :o

WAR IS A VOTE WINNER REMEMBER :'(

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:20pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:13pm:

Hey Suppository! WRONG!

DOUBLE PLUS GOOD LOVES WAR: WE ALL KNOW YOU HATE COPPER INTERNET :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Kiron22 on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:22pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

The ABC religiously bashes farmers.

Wut, ABC TV during the day is a pro-farmer circlejerk.
Oh god If I have to listen to another story about some farmer growing rice in the ****ing desert being an "entrepreneur".

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:46pm

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:22pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 3:18pm:

The ABC religiously bashes farmers.

Wut, ABC TV during the day is a pro-farmer circlejerk.
Oh god If I have to listen to another story about some farmer growing rice in the ****ing desert being an "entrepreneur".

Its called capitalism. If it were communism we would ALL be trying to farm in the Simpson desert because some party hack decided it was a good thing.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:49pm

They're both the same. It's just the lefty, champions of the workers crap just makes me sick. Oh yes, and the way Labor throws cash at every sob story on legs.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:49pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

That's the difference between you and Herb, Pecker. Herb debates; your just a troll who cuts and pastes.

Herb does no such thing.

He trolls (by posting his racist "news" stories in thread after thread), and then refuses to debate the issues he throws out there.

He's a bigoted troll, out to cause trouble and amuse his little mind - nothing else.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by John Smith on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:39pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

That's the difference between you and Herb, Pecker. Herb debates; your just a troll who cuts and pastes.

Herb doesn't debate, he preaches.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:43pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:39pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

That's the difference between you and Herb, Pecker. Herb debates; your just a troll who cuts and pastes.

Herb doesn't debate, he preaches.

Indeed.

Debating is the one thing he does NOT do.

He trolls, he preaches, he whinges, and he plays the victim.

That's it.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Culture Warrior on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:00pm

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

You've actually hit on a good point here, even if it may have been done accidentally. Abbott's poor speaking skills, along with his Catholic background, gave lefties so much ammunition. But now a smooth talker has taken over and he's given almost free reign by the press and lefties.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by double plus good on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:46pm

The apostle John agrees with his Messiah. That's unusual.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by John Smith on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:21pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

. But now a smooth talker has taken over and he's given almost free reign by the press and lefties.

libs are always given a free reign by the press (or at least freer than labor) ... labor deposes a sitting PM and it's 3 years of front page stories on knifing her mates, she doesn't deserve to be in the job, she wasn't voted in blah bla blah blah ... libs do it and its great for the country and forgotten about a week later.

The press in Australia is pathetic, all the mainstream media is biased to the right and they prove it all the time

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by Bam on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:59pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

. But now a smooth talker has taken over and he's given almost free reign by the press and lefties.

Including the ABC ... the week after Turnbull knifed Abbott it was wall to wall Turnbull, Turnbull, Turnbull. This clear bias was a breach of the ABC charter.

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by John Smith on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 9:00pm

Bam wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

Including the ABC ..

I agree, that's why I said ALL mainstream media

Title: Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Post by mariacostel on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:15am

Bam wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

. But now a smooth talker has taken over and he's given almost free reign by the press and lefties.

Including the ABC ... the week after Turnbull knifed Abbott it was wall to wall Turnbull, Turnbull, Turnbull. This clear bias was a breach of the ABC charter.

NOW you think that... Hypocrisy at its finest.